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MDSteel15
11-28-2010, 05:03 PM
Harrison laid his a$$ out hitting him in the freaking chest!!! And the "hold" call that they never call against the other teams D!!! What the hell Goodell? Get your crap in gear...

btaylor179
11-28-2010, 05:10 PM
i thought last week was bad this was the worse......we cant even sack the qb w out gettig a penalty

casteeler
11-28-2010, 05:11 PM
Sad to say but Godell hates the Steelers and that mean each week we have not only our opponent but the officials and Roger. The league will not change until someone new comes in

SteelCityRules
11-28-2010, 05:13 PM
But other teams are allowed to do it, & not be penalized, ie the Ravens in the game I'm watching now. Pure helmet to helmet, no call. Don't get me wrong, I don't really want it called, but, be fair. I'm more old school, hard nosed football. They are making it so defensive players are afraid to even tackle.

TRH
11-28-2010, 06:09 PM
I don't think i can take it anymore. you KNOW a fines is coming JH's way. And thats BS. He releases the ball, James hits him in less than a 1/4 of a second. What are you supposed to do?? "slow" up?

FacemeIke
11-28-2010, 06:32 PM
The Steelers as an organization have a lot of pull I dont get why Dick L. and the Rooneys don't stand up for their guys in the media lobbying for a change. The Rooneys and Dick L. are both very respected in the league and could possibly make a change. If they are not going to take their time to complain then I guess we'll have to play versus the officiating every week.

Tomlin neeeds to do the same, although he doesn't have the type of pull or respect in the NFL yet as the others do

SteelCityRules
11-28-2010, 06:32 PM
I think they want him to 'vanish'. Or have a magic 'stop' button. I mean really, it wasn't even helmet to helmet.

SH-Rock
11-28-2010, 06:36 PM
Offensive Penalties were all fair.

MACH1
11-28-2010, 06:40 PM
You all sound like a bunch of whiny suckhawk fans.

FacemeIke
11-28-2010, 06:44 PM
Tell that to Troy, Harrison, Farrior and all the other guys on Defense who are complaining. There is a legitimate reason for the complaining.

Fire Arians
11-28-2010, 06:44 PM
Offensive Penalties were all fair.

no.

SH-Rock
11-28-2010, 07:04 PM
no.

Yes, Kemauto had a penalty on almost every drive.

BigRick
11-28-2010, 07:09 PM
You see it every week in other games helmet to helmet and no flag. It's getting old. Apply the same rules to every team. :banging:

TRH
11-28-2010, 08:00 PM
The Steelers as an organization have a lot of pull I dont get why Dick L. and the Rooneys don't stand up for their guys in the media lobbying for a change. The Rooneys and Dick L. are both very respected in the league and could possibly make a change. If they are not going to take their time to complain then I guess we'll have to play versus the officiating every week.

Tomlin neeeds to do the same, although he doesn't have the type of pull or respect in the NFL yet as the others do


Tomlin will likely say nothing, the league will fine him. The Rooney's are a class act, but one has to imagine how much they can actually take before they speak out in some way. Certainly he can't be sitting up in the box satisfied with this. The bias against this team is very much out of control. If anyone argues otherwise, they need to take out film of the BS roughing the passer penalties, the helmet-to-helmet hits on Hines Ward with no league reprecussion's, etc.

MillerMania83
11-28-2010, 09:24 PM
I was at the Raiders game, and I can honestly say I thought that was the WORST offciated game I EVER seen, for both teams....Today's game rolls around, and BAM, another HUGE stinker for the ref's AGAIN....Not saying some of the calls weren't correct calls, but it's SO lopsided and OBVIOUS it's DISGUSTING anymore....Sittin' here watching the game at home today, I truly had the feeling while I was watchin the game that "this isn't fun anymore"....Meaning, the league/refs are KILLING the sport we all love....The Harrison hit was called correct IMO, by the guidelines the league has set, but the rules are HORRIBLE anymore, the GUIDELINES SUCK....I though las weeks call against #92 was totally bogus, and now this week the guy is getting ready to sack the QB, puts his head in the guys chest, and he draws a flag, it's just PITIFUL....Many of the holding calls IMO were legit, but the next series the Bills go on O and Woodley is getting arm barred/neck tackled/pulled to the ground, and NO FLAG....It's just BS, I'm really starting to believe the conspiracy theories against the Steelers, and I never would have ever thought that before....But anymore, it's really starting to get that obvious, what else could it be.

MattsMe
11-28-2010, 09:36 PM
Sittin' here watching the game at home today, I truly had the feeling while I was watchin the game that "this isn't fun anymore".

That sums up my feelings perfectly. Sure most of the holding calls were legit, but then they turn around and let our guys get blatantly choked/clotheslined over and over again.

Even winning isn't fun anymore. It's just a relief when it's over.

cubanstogie
11-28-2010, 09:41 PM
I was at the Raiders game, and I can honestly say I thought that was the WORST offciated game I EVER seen, for both teams....Today's game rolls around, and BAM, another HUGE stinker for the ref's AGAIN....Not saying some of the calls weren't correct calls, but it's SO lopsided and OBVIOUS it's DISGUSTING anymore....Sittin' here watching the game at home today, I truly had the feeling while I was watchin the game that "this isn't fun anymore"....Meaning, the league/refs are KILLING the sport we all love....The Harrison hit was called correct IMO, by the guidelines the league has set, but the rules are HORRIBLE anymore, the GUIDELINES SUCK....I though las weeks call against #92 was totally bogus, and now this week the guy is getting ready to sack the QB, puts his head in the guys chest, and he draws a flag, it's just PITIFUL....Many of the holding calls IMO were legit, but the next series the Bills go on O and Woodley is getting arm barred/neck tackled/pulled to the ground, and NO FLAG....It's just BS, I'm really starting to believe the conspiracy theories against the Steelers, and I never would have ever thought that before....But anymore, it's really starting to get that obvious, what else could it be.

I really don't buy into the conspiracy theory yet. I tend to think that most of the refs are old, don't see well and really have no business in there position. I see bad officiating in almost every game I watch not just Steelers games.

SteelCityMom
11-28-2010, 09:48 PM
I really don't buy into the conspiracy theory yet. I tend to think that most of the refs are old, don't see well and really have no business in there position. I see bad officiating in almost every game I watch not just Steelers games.

That's my thinking too. I hate these complaints about officiating. Bad calls are made every game...just gotta deal with them. Last week was one of the worst officiated games I've ever seen, yet the Steelers didn't let it affect them at all. This week, they were letting some bad calls/missed calls (and some good calls) drag them down.

Now, more to what I think the OP's intent of the thread was, I HATE some of the new rules...and yes, some of them do seem geared towards the Steelers (or Harrison to be more specific). But I'm not buying a total conspiracy theory yet either. I just think they are very poorly defined rules and the refs are just calling what they see (or what they think they see).

It's become part of the game though...can't let it get to your head like it obviously did to the Steelers today.

Wallace108
11-28-2010, 10:50 PM
I don't think there's a conspiracy per se. It's not like the league is out to get us. I think it's more like profiling.

Hines has always had a reputation around the league as being a "dirty player." Then we've got Harrison ... another "dirty player." We've become the Bad Boys of the NFL. The league wants a safer game, so the Bad Boys are going to be watched a lot more closely. And if something is a judgment call, we're not going to get the benefit of the doubt. We're being profiled. Someone call the ACLU.

madtowndrunkard
11-28-2010, 11:04 PM
no.

Not even close. If those holds were consistently called on both teams then sure I'd agree....but you never see anyone getting holding calls for the arm bar move that every OT uses on Harrison every week on almost every play. Then they call it when we break a huge run.....stinks to high heaven.

We are being targeted by the league. They have a ZERO tolerance for Harrison and pretty much any of our players. Ben gets punched in the face last week.....gets pounded in the ground this week....and basically nothing. There is no consistency. I'd like to Roger Goodell to just come out publicly and say FU Steelers. Then at least we can quit complaining and pretending it's not fixed when it clearly is.

This is competition. When one player or team is held to a different standard then another then it's rigged....it's fixed. It is NOT in the spirit of competition. Its un ethical and is ruining the league. I dont watch the NBA or pro wrestling for the same crap the NFL is now engaged in. It's getting easier and easier to not watch a game. The ONLY game I watch now is the Steelers. I used to watch football all day Sunday....and the monday night games.... I quit watching any game not involving the steelers...its just a bad product w/ so many commercials you just want to vomit.

pitt0wns
11-28-2010, 11:11 PM
I'm a die hard Steelers fan and I'm about done with the NFL. Its getting real bad this year and the Steelers are getting singled out. Year or two ago the league visited with the Steelers to tell them not to hit ppl so hard. Yall remember that?

Once again this coaching staff is looking worse and worse every year.

I'll give William Gay some credit he played a pretty good game today. He was on my bad side until today. We'll see how he goes.

Also Suisham looked good today. I'm glad he had a great game. Looks like he earned the teams respect after that OT kick.

madtowndrunkard
11-28-2010, 11:21 PM
One bad game by the officials I can understand. Two in a row...well that doesn't look good but ok...maybe it's just a fluke. Three in a row and now you can no longer ignore it....or deny it.

The officials kept Cinci in it till the end...with out several bad calls we would have easily won that game.

The offiicals didn't need to get involved in the Pats game since we got our asses handed to us.

Last week.....well I don't think I need to say anything about last week other then that was the worst officiating Iv'e ever seem. It bordered on blatant game fixing.

This week the officials kept it up and kept the bills in it and nearly handed them the win. 3 crucial plays in this game all involved the officials. Mendy's big run gets called back on a hold that never gets called....arm bars are used on Harrison every time he blitzes. Pass interference puts the bills inside the 10. Bogus roughing the passer on Harrison gives the Bills new life and they score a TD on the same drive.


Seriously how can you ignore 3 weeks of officials screwing us? The only game the officials did not becom a major factor was the one game we were blown out. Last 3 games we are winning they get heavily involved. We've been made a target. I wonder if this is the NFL's way to saying shut the F up to our players and coaches?

tony hipchest
11-28-2010, 11:37 PM
no teams players have been more outspoken about the bogus enforcement of the new/old rules and the current state of affairs than james harrison and (most ironic and shocking of all...) troy polamalu.

the league absolutely hates troy cause they know he speaks truth and theres nothing they can blatantly do to him (it sucks that every time he makes a tackle or stop, i am expecting a flag).

Stu Pidasso
11-29-2010, 12:22 AM
I really don't buy into the conspiracy theory yet. I tend to think that most of the refs are old, don't see well and really have no business in there position. I see bad officiating in almost every game I watch not just Steelers games.

So what do you say when our guys tell the refs repeatedly to watch the O-lineman, they are really holding too much? You think the refs can't hear either? It's brought to their attention multiple times EVERY GAME. What's your thinking now?

PhantomJB93
11-29-2010, 12:35 AM
This game wasnt anywhere near as badn and anybody trying to blame the meltdown on the refs is just scapegoating. There were a couple bad calls, but it was nothing like the Oakland game, most of the calls in this game were legit and our *almost* downfall was entirely by our hands.

Fire Arians
11-29-2010, 12:50 AM
there was one play where i counted 3 holds on the buffalo line and the refs didn't call shit. blatant as hell too, one of the linemen got totally turned around and was literally dragging the defender to the turf.

yeah our line held, but the calls were biased. buffalo was doing a lot of that crap on their end too

MattsMe
11-29-2010, 12:56 AM
Not even close. If those holds were consistently called on both teams then sure I'd agree....but you never see anyone getting holding calls for the arm bar move that every OT uses on Harrison every week on almost every play. Then they call it when we break a huge run.....stinks to high heaven.

We are being targeted by the league. They have a ZERO tolerance for Harrison and pretty much any of our players. Ben gets punched in the face last week.....gets pounded in the ground this week....and basically nothing. There is no consistency. I'd like to Roger Goodell to just come out publicly and say FU Steelers. Then at least we can quit complaining and pretending it's not fixed when it clearly is.

This is competition. When one player or team is held to a different standard then another then it's rigged....it's fixed. It is NOT in the spirit of competition. Its un ethical and is ruining the league. I dont watch the NBA or pro wrestling for the same crap the NFL is now engaged in. It's getting easier and easier to not watch a game. The ONLY game I watch now is the Steelers. I used to watch football all day Sunday....and the monday night games.... I quit watching any game not involving the steelers...its just a bad product w/ so many commercials you just want to vomit.

:hatsoff:

GREAT post. I agree with everything you said, except I quit watching pro wrestling because I turned 13 and discovered girls. :chuckle:

Seriously though, you took the words right out of my mouth.

LVSteelersfan
11-29-2010, 01:38 AM
I'm a die hard Steelers fan and I'm about done with the NFL. Its getting real bad this year and the Steelers are getting singled out. Year or two ago the league visited with the Steelers to tell them not to hit ppl so hard. Yall remember that?

Once again this coaching staff is looking worse and worse every year.

I'll give William Gay some credit he played a pretty good game today. He was on my bad side until today. We'll see how he goes.

Also Suisham looked good today. I'm glad he had a great game. Looks like he earned the teams respect after that OT kick.

Were you watching the same game I was? Gay got torched for big plays constantly and so did Anthony Madison. What were those two doing on the field so much? We are playing way too much nickel defense these days. I think Tomlin is finally instituting his cover 2 BS which does not work in this league any more.

California-Steel
11-29-2010, 02:09 AM
We are playing way too much nickel defense these days.We were in the dime more than anything. Not much nickel at all.

TRH
11-29-2010, 07:37 AM
I'm a die hard Steelers fan and I'm about done with the NFL. Its getting real bad this year and the Steelers are getting singled out. Year or two ago the league visited with the Steelers to tell them not to hit ppl so hard. Yall remember that?

Once again this coaching staff is looking worse and worse every year.

I'll give William Gay some credit he played a pretty good game today. He was on my bad side until today. We'll see how he goes.

Also Suisham looked good today. I'm glad he had a great game. Looks like he earned the teams respect after that OT kick.


Gay did get burned on a couple plays but he also defended/prevented 4 other passes including one HUGE one. He was also all over the place and is able to put pressure back to the QB.
I'm not nominating him for Pro Bowl or anything like that, but i too, felt he had a decent game and earned a couple points in my book yesteday.

madtowndrunkard
11-29-2010, 08:18 AM
This game wasnt anywhere near as badn and anybody trying to blame the meltdown on the refs is just scapegoating. There were a couple bad calls, but it was nothing like the Oakland game, most of the calls in this game were legit and our *almost* downfall was entirely by our hands.


What I have issue with is the timing of those "mistakes" made by the refs. 3 of them were huge mistakes that either erased a big play or saved the Bills from losing. The same damn thing happened in cinci. 3 horrible calls made it a close game.....otherwise that would have been a decisive win as well.

Against a good opponent like the Ravens the officials will not allow us to win. The only chance we have of winning next week is if we blow them out. We'll need to put up some points because the Ravens will get plenty of help. We are held to a different set of rules then the rest of the league. It's a stacked deck.

If 3 poorly officiated games in the last 4 weeks doesn't convince you then I guess nothing will.

steelerdave1969
11-29-2010, 08:45 AM
Year after Year the Steelers are one of the Least Penalized teams in the NFL. And the last 3 weeks have been horendous. Never seen anything like it. I know that on Almost Any Play they can Call Holding somewhere down the field, but must it be Every Big Play we make? . . The Bills played well in the 2nd half and without Aaron Smith in the game where is Lawrence Timmons gone to? He was making play after play in the first few weeks and I havent even noticed him the last few games.

Steelerfan58
11-29-2010, 08:59 AM
This game wasnt anywhere near as badn and anybody trying to blame the meltdown on the refs is just scapegoating. There were a couple bad calls, but it was nothing like the Oakland game, most of the calls in this game were legit and our *almost* downfall was entirely by our hands.

What???? Have you ever heard of the term Steeler rules? Google it, this is not the first time the NFL has decided to change the style of play around the league to benefit the offences.

The powers that be luv to see high number offensive games.
I think the NFL is trying to cater to there new target demographic, you know the fans with the new jerseys with the tags hanging off them, the pink towel waving crowd that thinks we need cheerleaders and that actually like Steely Mcbeam.

Those types of fans get bored easy and tend not to see the beauty in a good low scoring defensive struggle. The Steelers have been made examples in the past and it is happening again. If you can't see that then you are not a very well informed fan of the game and this team.

plenewken
11-29-2010, 09:43 AM
The only BS calls I'm really tired of are Arians' , not the ones from the refs.

Hayeksheroes
11-29-2010, 09:57 AM
The only way we can stop hitting in the NFL is to ban such players. Touch is in and hitting is out. Get on your pantaloons.

ncsteeler
11-29-2010, 08:05 PM
You all sound like a bunch of whiny suckhawk fans.

I don't know about other, but I complain when any game is officiated badly. Were not he only one's getting screwed, but we are mostly screwed on the roughing penalties, because the league is trying to send us a message.

Anyone watch SNFootball? Chargers corners were getting away with a LOT of aggressive playing. Now I think that is how it should be played, but I know damn well, that most teams most nights are going to get burned a few PI penalties for the same type of play.



Side Note
Situation.....playoffs vs. NE were loosing, no hope of a come back. How about Harrison just take out his frustration on Brady closed fist style, least he knows that's acceptable.