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tony hipchest
04-01-2006, 03:35 PM
the bump and run has been the hot topic this week and one only needs to defer to jeff gordon to find out when it is o.k. to use this tactic. now this is very complex, and the gordon rules are not really defined but this is what i can make of them.

1. its not ok to bump and run your teammate. anyone remember jeff and jj have an on track incident?
2. while i prefer drivers who drive all others the same and dont carry grudges and paybacks on the track, this really is not the accepted method. drivers must now go the extra mile to exact revenge.
3. it is not ok to bump and run somebody in the 1st 70 laps in the race even if a slower car (gordon) is holding up a much faster car (stewart). the same manuver is ok in the last 70 laps of the race.
4. spinning k. bush is ok at any time (see the spring race at martinsville last year) unfortunately for gordon bush has the ears of an elephant and like jimmy spencer im sure he never forgets.
5. while the bump and run is usually reserved for short tracks, if youre a gordon teammate it is ok in a non points race on a superspeedway where death is much more possible (see vickers and bliss in last years all star race.
6. every driver who employs this tactic must be clairvoyant. they must know before hand if their manuver will move the car or cause it to wreck. this is very restrictive being that only gordon has this clairvoyance.


confused? i certainly am. call me old school, ive always believed you pass somebody by going around them, not through them. i guess the definition of a pass is an evolving thing. even though gordon proved a car 3 laps down can come back to win at martinsville all front runners will expect all lap cars to move to the upper grove and go more laps down, rather than actually try and race for a decent finish. while patience is often preached it is rarely practiced. this weeks race should be an exciting wreckfest with lots of people getting pissed off. many good cars will probably be lapped early, and no driver wants to give up 100 laps into a 500 lap race.

jeff gordon is the hands down favorite to win this race. he swept both races here last year and has a total of 7 victories.
j. johnson is on the pole. when jj starts up front he usually stays up front. he will be nearly impossible to beat off pit row, especially under caution.
kurt bush in rustys equipment at a short track. enough said
matt kenseth- if he keeps doing what hes been doing he must be looked at as a favorite.
t. stewart- has proven he can dominate and win at just about any type of track. he led more than half the laps at the 2 races at martinsville last year. impressive.

for darkhorses i will be watching k. kahne, b. labonte (him and the #43 team have done well here. add r. loomis to the mix and another top 5 finish could very easilly be in the making), b. vickers to have one of his best runs of the year and r. gordon. it is important for t. raines to have a good run to keep h.o.f. racing in the top 35 in points. i think this can be j. mcmurrays week to prove that he is in the right car to do some damage. a top 5 finish and even a win would not suprise me at all.

bold prediction: only 1 rookie will finish on the lead lap. right now i am leaning towards m. truex.

now the really tough part:

1. kurt bush- huge bulls eye on his back. EVERYONE will be looking to spin him out as if he were the first driver to ever do it to anyone else.
2. jeff gordon- almost impossible not to pick him to win, especially now that he has declared he will start driving through people to get the win.
3. tony stewart- i really want to pick him to win. for him to go 5 races without being in victory lane is almost unbelievable.
4. jimmy johnson- just his starting position and pit row choise could be enough for the victory.
5. matt kenseth- he is matt kenseth, his pit crew has been top notch since hes been in the series. his pit stall could hurt him though
6. k. kahne- for no other reason that hes been doing good all year

watch for veterans like j. nemecheck, d. jarrett, k. schrader and k. petty in that order. their veteran status should help at this track.

DIESELMAN
04-01-2006, 05:17 PM
1.T.Stewart
2.J.Johnson
3.M.Martin
4.M. Kenseth
5.Dale Jr.

Bush and Gordon will take each other out.....

tony hipchest
04-01-2006, 05:28 PM
1.T.Stewart
2.J.Johnson
3.M.Martin
4.M. Kenseth
5.Dale Jr.

Bush and Gordon will take each other out.....

nice picks and i like your bold prediction (anything can, and probably will, happen). dale and martin have some ground to cover but both are definitely capable.

MasterOfPuppets
04-01-2006, 07:23 PM
1 gordon
2 kahne
3 kurt busch
4 stewart
5 martin

Suitanim
04-02-2006, 01:32 PM
I hope JG dedicates the win to "All the 24 haters"...

tony hipchest
04-02-2006, 01:49 PM
I hope JG dedicates the win to "All the 24 haters"...:sofunny:

Suitanim
04-02-2006, 02:03 PM
Almost ready to go green...I haven't done much "Race Day Thread" posting during an actual race...

tony hipchest
04-02-2006, 02:07 PM
they really shouldnt let the locals sing the anthem

Suitanim
04-02-2006, 02:09 PM
they really shouldnt let the locals sing the anthem
Yeah, I really don't think NASCAR needs to pinch it's pennies...

DIESELMAN
04-02-2006, 02:14 PM
BOOGEDY,BOOGEDY,BOOGEDY!!!!!

Suitanim
04-02-2006, 02:15 PM
That didn't take long...not good for my fantasy when one of my drivers wrecks on lap 3...

DIESELMAN
04-02-2006, 02:20 PM
how many laps till the next wreck?

Suitanim
04-02-2006, 02:21 PM
Hopefully not many so Jr. can start getting laps back...
Well...there you go. lap 14

tony hipchest
04-02-2006, 02:21 PM
That didn't take long...not good for my fantasy when one of my drivers wrecks on lap 3...
you know alot of people had jr and petty.

hey, i like robby gordons black and yellow pittsburgh paints car! too bad hes in the garage.

tony hipchest
04-02-2006, 02:23 PM
how many laps till the next wreck?how bout 1!

DIESELMAN
04-02-2006, 02:25 PM
how bout 1!
LOL.......Go figure 800 feet straightaways

Suitanim
04-02-2006, 02:26 PM
By the end of the race, at this pace, there will only be 10-15 cars on the lead lap...

Suitanim
04-02-2006, 02:28 PM
Also, at this pace, this race is gonna take about 6 hours to run!

tony hipchest
04-02-2006, 02:31 PM
the chrome horn is in full effect. this is gonna get really good near the end

Suitanim
04-02-2006, 02:33 PM
the chrome horn is in full effect. this is gonna get really good near the end

A tad early for the bump and run, but...makes for good racing.

DIESELMAN
04-02-2006, 02:35 PM
Damn commercials.....

Suitanim
04-02-2006, 02:38 PM
You need to get trackpass...I listen to JG's scanner all race, and also have great online telemetry.

DIESELMAN
04-02-2006, 02:42 PM
You need to get trackpass...I listen to JG's scanner all race, and also have great online telemetry.

yeah I had it last year....can't use it over here though

Suitanim
04-02-2006, 02:42 PM
Check it out...

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Suitanim
04-02-2006, 02:46 PM
That sucks...why not?

tony hipchest
04-02-2006, 02:48 PM
the good thing with espn and abc taking over races (i mean other than rusty being in the booth) is they will do the split screen like they do with the irl during the commercials

DIESELMAN
04-02-2006, 02:50 PM
Our computer system have to many filters on them and we can't get access to alot of websites

Suitanim
04-02-2006, 02:51 PM
Jr's car isn't suffering from losing the brake blowe because he's got no sheet metal over that right front...having the air hit it straight on at a non-aero track may make him really good...

(Edit) Damn, right after i said that, so did DW!

DIESELMAN
04-02-2006, 02:52 PM
its my day off I'm lucky AFN is showing the race they usually show golf or tennis

Suitanim
04-02-2006, 02:53 PM
its my day off I'm lucky AFN is showing the race they usually show golf or tennis

Yeah, that would suck pretty bad...FORCED to watch women's tennis...

JG tire down, he'll be fine.

DIESELMAN
04-02-2006, 02:53 PM
Gordon got a little squirrelly...Damn the bad luck..lol

tony hipchest
04-02-2006, 02:55 PM
the phantom debris brings out a caution to save jeff. go figure. i didnt think jj would get beat off pit row today.

DIESELMAN
04-02-2006, 02:55 PM
Yeah, that would suck pretty bad...FORCED to watch women's tennis...

JG tire down, he'll be fine.

At least they're good about showing the NFL

Suitanim
04-02-2006, 02:58 PM
the phantom debris brings out a caution to save jeff. go figure. i didnt think jj would get beat off pit row today.

Imagine...throwing a caution for tire debris from..............tire debris from a blown tire.

Must be a conspiracy....

Suitanim
04-02-2006, 03:02 PM
Wow, that was cool. Anyone notice the gas intake on the RIGHT side of JG's car? Shows the similarities between short track and road courses, similar enough that they use road course cars on short tracks...

DIESELMAN
04-02-2006, 03:02 PM
You know Biffle's pissed.....

Suitanim
04-02-2006, 03:11 PM
Biffle is streaky, though...he's capable of going off on a tear...

tony hipchest
04-02-2006, 03:16 PM
some off sequence pit stops to spice things up.

Suitanim
04-02-2006, 03:21 PM
Not really a fuel mileage track, though...

DIESELMAN
04-02-2006, 03:25 PM
Biffle is streaky, though...he's capable of going off on a tear...
True but he's still behind the wall.....

tony hipchest
04-02-2006, 03:27 PM
amazing. scott wimmer cuts a tire and no caution.

DIESELMAN
04-02-2006, 03:29 PM
What the hell is Casey doin to my boy Martin?

tony hipchest
04-02-2006, 03:31 PM
What the hell is Casey doin to my boy Martin? someone should show him where the brake pedal is

tony hipchest
04-02-2006, 03:37 PM
damn! going out on a limb and gambling on labonte from my b drivers just blew up in my face.

Suitanim
04-02-2006, 03:41 PM
amazing. scott wimmer cuts a tire and no caution.

The difference? One guy cut a tire running up front, couldn't get down to the bottom to pit, and dropped rubber all over the place.

The other guy was running in the back, cut a tire and immediately pitted.

Or, it could just be a conspiracy...

tony hipchest
04-02-2006, 03:45 PM
The difference? One guy cut a tire running up front, couldn't get down to the bottom to pit, and dropped rubber all over the place.

The other guy was running in the back, cut a tire and immediately pitted.

Or, it could just be a conspiracy... did you see gordons tire when it came off? not shredded and intact, just flat. the conspiracy thereory is much more interresting. :sofunny: truth of the matter is gordon would be right where he is now even if he did go a lap down.

Suitanim
04-02-2006, 03:48 PM
Well, MAYBE in this case...wasn't Scott Wimmer the guy who was caught DUI, raced the cops home, then tried to hide from them under his bed?

I don't think NASCAR is going to give a bonehead like that any breaks...

DIESELMAN
04-02-2006, 03:50 PM
Bush is going to get his ass kicked before its over with....lol

Suitanim
04-02-2006, 03:51 PM
Yeah, that was suspect...He'll SAY he got tight and jumped up the track, but it IS Kurt Busch...

tony hipchest
04-02-2006, 03:53 PM
way to make friends kurt. add burton to the list of people who wanna kick his ass

tony hipchest
04-02-2006, 03:54 PM
Well, MAYBE in this case...wasn't Scott Wimmer the guy who was caught DUI, raced the cops home, then tried to hide from them under his bed?

I don't think NASCAR is going to give a bonehead like that any breaks...:sofunny: yep. good ol scott. you think he'll be getting a beer sponsor anytime soon?

DIESELMAN
04-02-2006, 03:55 PM
way to make friends kurt. add burton to the list of people who wanna kick his ass
yeah that list is getting longer every weekend

DIESELMAN
04-02-2006, 04:00 PM
damn I thought Kenseth would do something to Kurt right there.....by accident of course

tony hipchest
04-02-2006, 04:07 PM
shit. jr's mowing em down like its nothing

Suitanim
04-02-2006, 04:09 PM
damn I thought Kenseth would do something to Kurt right there.....by accident of course

That's exactly what made what he did to Gordon so extraordinary last week. He gets mad, but he usually does the smart thing and drives clean.

I think all this bluster about the Gordon thing was just a warning to the other drivers...Gordon, for the most part, does the same as Kenseth. He drives clean, but his message was "Don't **** with me...I can drive as aggressive as these new guys, and I can do it better".

tony hipchest
04-02-2006, 04:26 PM
kahne dropped a cylinder. 2 b drivers down. now i gotta be a s.riggs fan.

Suitanim
04-02-2006, 04:29 PM
Gotta blame Newman's spotter for that one...

tony hipchest
04-02-2006, 04:38 PM
Gotta blame Newman's spotter for that one...definitely

Suitanim
04-02-2006, 04:43 PM
You guys are gonna be okay fantasy wise...Schrader is off, so I'm looking at 1 of my drivers at somewhere in the 40th spot or only a little better...

tony hipchest
04-02-2006, 04:51 PM
harvick is becoming my nemisis. he blows when i pick him and does damn good when i dont. the shrub is having an impressive day. i think stewart is gonna dominate and lose it on pit row late in the race. jimmie should have this sealed. just now winning of pit road could be the move of the race especially with newman down on the inside

Suitanim
04-02-2006, 04:54 PM
With this many laps to go, there's no way I'd ever venture a guess...

Suitanim
04-02-2006, 04:57 PM
Whoops...there goes Kahne...

DIESELMAN
04-02-2006, 04:58 PM
harvick is becoming my nemisis. he blows when i pick him and does damn good when i dont. the shrub is having an impressive day. i think stewart is gonna dominate and lose it on pit row late in the race. jimmie should have this sealed. just now winning of pit road could be the move of the race especially with newman down on the inside
It'll be close jimmie and tony have been back and forth out of the pits all day.don't count out Gordon he's pushing it.

tony hipchest
04-02-2006, 04:58 PM
Whoops...there goes Kahne...smokin! fox has great graphics (valve springs) and then hammond with the cut away car. very newbie friendly broadcasts.

daleemnm
04-02-2006, 05:03 PM
Stupid ass Newman. Now Jr's car sucks.

tony hipchest
04-02-2006, 05:04 PM
It'll be close jimmie and tony have been back and forth out of the pits all day.don't count out Gordon he's pushing it.tonys having his typical "im too fat to drive 500 laps at martinsville" late race fade. :sofunny:

ill go out on a limb and say there will be no bump n run for the win if its the 5, 24, and 48 involved

DIESELMAN
04-02-2006, 05:05 PM
Stupid ass Newman. Now Jr's car sucks.
From how Jr's car looked at lap 3........he's doing damn good right now

Suitanim
04-02-2006, 05:08 PM
Yeah, they'll be more wrecks, the track is changing, and there will be several restarts...things will change a lot between now and the end..

tony hipchest
04-02-2006, 05:15 PM
way to lose the sound there fox!

DIESELMAN
04-02-2006, 05:16 PM
DAMN!! Jimmie beat Tony out...

Suitanim
04-02-2006, 05:17 PM
LOL at Steve Letarte...he just came on the scanner and said that 3 rounds out of the RR, 1/2 pound out of the LF and no fuel was the last trick he had in his bag...

tony hipchest
04-02-2006, 05:23 PM
harvick, bush and kenseth running nose to tail. fireworks anyone?

Suitanim
04-02-2006, 05:25 PM
Nope...all ran each other clean.

Stanton Barrett running with a suspension problem, no tire debris and a caution...

DIESELMAN
04-02-2006, 05:27 PM
LOL at Steve Letarte...he just came on the scanner and said that 3 rounds out of the RR, 1/2 pound out of the LF and no fuel was the last trick he had in his bag...
LOL...Thats too funny..You gotta give it to the crew chiefs they do their damndest to give their drivers a shot at winning....

Suitanim
04-02-2006, 05:36 PM
This is just about as good as it gets...and why F-1 sucks.

DIESELMAN
04-02-2006, 05:36 PM
Now that was racin right there....Tony back in the lead

DIESELMAN
04-02-2006, 05:38 PM
Jimmie getting squirrelly.......

DIESELMAN
04-02-2006, 05:40 PM
This is going to be a good finish.....Gordon running damn good

tony hipchest
04-02-2006, 05:40 PM
caution with 15 laps? single file restart! this is gonna be good.

Suitanim
04-02-2006, 05:41 PM
Here we go...Probably 10 or so to go with a restart...in fact, nose to tail might not be out of the question.

Letarte just came over the horn and told JG that he's saved his brakes enough that he can do anything he wants with 10 to go...

tony hipchest
04-02-2006, 05:42 PM
$1000 say none otf the top 5 pits

Suitanim
04-02-2006, 05:43 PM
9 to go...no...wait, 8 to go when they go green.

Alright, as long as no one gets stupid, this should be a fun as Hell finish...

Suitanim
04-02-2006, 05:45 PM
Kee-rist! This will probably mean a green-white checker...

tony hipchest
04-02-2006, 05:45 PM
bad news for kenseth in the points and for gordon's shot at the win

maybe not. gordon gets the conspiracy red flag :rolleyes:

tony hipchest
04-02-2006, 05:49 PM
at this point im definitely rooting for jr. too bad theres no chrome left in his horn. hell be lucky to pick up 1 spot

DIESELMAN
04-02-2006, 05:50 PM
$1000 say none otf the top 5 pits
LMAO

Suitanim
04-02-2006, 05:51 PM
bad news for kenseth in the points and for gordon's shot at the win

maybe not. gordon gets the conspiracy red flag :rolleyes:

How so? A red flag benefits no one, and actually ****s everyone up...

tony hipchest
04-02-2006, 05:55 PM
other than the lombardi, is the martinsville grandfather clock the coolest trophy in sports? the indy 500 trophy is pretty cool.

DIESELMAN
04-02-2006, 05:56 PM
Let's try this again.....

Suitanim
04-02-2006, 05:56 PM
I'm gonna do something I rarely do and just shut the Hell up for awhile...

tony hipchest
04-02-2006, 05:57 PM
How so? A red flag benefits no one, and actually ****s everyone up...gordon will need more than 2 laps to get by stewart without a serious push. either way, this is gonna be good.

Suitanim
04-02-2006, 06:00 PM
Nice 2nd place...if Kenseth doesn't cost JG 16 places last week, he's in great shape.

Damn those lessor drivers messing up NASCAR's best drivers stats!

tony hipchest
04-02-2006, 06:01 PM
well i picked stewart to win in fantasy (actually to lead the most laps) and gordon to finish 2nd and jj to finish 3rd (oops 4th- i picked stewart in 3rd) in this thread.

DIESELMAN
04-02-2006, 06:01 PM
did Stewart pull a whole shot or what?

DIESELMAN
04-02-2006, 06:02 PM
good race....would've been better if not for that last caution

Suitanim
04-02-2006, 06:14 PM
It was a great race to watch...that's the bottom line.

tony hipchest
04-02-2006, 06:28 PM
It was a great race to watch...that's the bottom line.for sure. thats the great thing about nascar. i could care less for any of the top 3 finishers, yet it was a great race on a great track, and all fans were glued to their seats (actually, im sure all fans at the track were standing)

MasterOfPuppets
04-02-2006, 07:40 PM
nice comebacks for both martin and jr. they both had some really beat up cars...lol

tony hipchest
04-02-2006, 08:21 PM
bob nardeli the president and ceo of HOME DEPOT was in victory lane for an interview. last year after tony climbed the fences they, ran an ad saying "hey tony, we sell ladders". he said ladder sales went up by 20% that week. the week stewart won at the brickyard they sold tons of bricks. proof that what "wins on sunday, sells on monday". this is why all the big dogs in corporate america want a piece of NASCAR and proof that its fans are some of the most loyal out there.

Suitanim
04-02-2006, 08:28 PM
bob nardeli the president and ceo of HOME DEPOT was in victory lane for an interview. last year after tony climbed the fences they, ran an ad saying "hey tony, we sell ladders". he said ladder sales went up by 20% that week. the week stewart won at the brickyard they sold tons of bricks. proof that what "wins on sunday, sells on monday". this is why all the big dogs in corporate america want a piece of NASCAR and proof that its fans are some of the most loyal out there.

But it's also proof that what USED to work doesn't work now.

People with money don't chew Skoal, nor do they drink Pabst Blue Ribbon...just a couple years ago, there was an actual sponsor in NASCAR "State Fair Corn Dogs". That didn't last long, and I feel sorry for them...a bit. If they paid several million dollars to advertise hillbilly food to hillbillies, okay, but I suspect hillbillies were already eating corndogs.

I would not be at all surprised if Merrill Lynch was a NASCAR sponsor in a few years...

tony hipchest
04-02-2006, 08:50 PM
But it's also proof that what USED to work doesn't work now.


I would not be at all surprised if Merrill Lynch was a NASCAR sponsor in a few years...

speaking of corndogs....have you seen that nascar is coming out with its own brand of"meats"? lol, they were clowning it on pti on friday. you know, hot dogs, bacon, bologna etc. :sofunny:

anyways your right about the merrill lynch comment. citi financial already has been sponsoring e. saddler for 2 years (primary in busch). once the largest financial institution in the world gets involved you can bet more will follow. crazy how these fortune 500 companies will attribute some of their bottom line to nascar sponsorship.

remember about 9 years ago when TABASCO spent its whole years budget for advertising on 1 sb spot and a nascar cup car sponsorship. (#30something for k. wallace i believe and later dw?)

Suitanim
04-02-2006, 08:53 PM
I'm in advertising, so nothing would ever surprise me...

tony hipchest
04-02-2006, 10:18 PM
race recap:jeff gordon is the hands down favorite to win this race. he swept both races here last year and has a total of 7 victories.
gordon lived to the billing
j. johnson is on the pole. when jj starts up front he usually stays up front. he will be nearly impossible to beat off pit row, especially under caution.
definitely advantageous pit spot for him but his crew wasnt perfect all day. i think they got beat out twice
kurt bush in rustys equipment at a short track. enough said
it wasnt enough
matt kenseth- if he keeps doing what hes been doing he must be looked at as a favorite.
never really showed a winning car. backing it into the wall definitely hurt
t. stewart- has proven he can dominate and win at just about any type of track. he led more than half the laps at the 2 races at martinsville last year. impressive.
once again he leads the most laps and most importantly, seals the deal

for darkhorses i will be watching k. kahne, great car when it actually worked b. labonte (him and the #43 team have done well here. add r. loomis to the mix and another top 5 finish could very easilly be in the making)didnt show much more than a 15th place car, if his car didnt lose a transmition, attrition couldve given him a lead lap finish , b. vickers to have one of his best runs of the year(vickers came through with an 8th place finish) and r. gordon(blew up 3 laps in the race and finished in last place-sweet paintjob though). it is important for t. raines to have a good run to keep h.o.f. racing in the top 35 in points he had a respectable 21st place finish. i think this can be j. mcmurrays week to prove that he is in the right car to do some damage. a top 5 finish and even a win would not suprise me at all.jamie finished 9th, not great but good when you look at him being the 2nd highest finishing ford (saddler 6th) and having the best finish of the roush camp

bold prediction: only 1 rookie will finish on the lead lap. right now i am leaning towards m. truex.
tough day for rookies although it was a good clean run for most of them. only one finished on the lead lap- r. sorenson with a 12th place finish. truex was the rookie runner up in 19th, 2 laps down

now the really tough part:

1. kurt bush- huge bulls eye on his back. EVERYONE will be looking to spin him out as if he were the first driver to ever do it to anyone else.
finished 11th. the obvious homer pick.. from now on i will post who i think will win, not who i want to win
2. jeff gordon- almost impossible not to pick him to win, especially now that he has declared he will start driving through people to get the win.
finished 2nd (no applause please). jg's days of winning 3 in a row at any track may be behind him, not necessarily due to declining talent but as seen today he has to share the track (and potential wins) with teammates bush and johnson.
3. tony stewart- i really want to pick him to win. for him to go 5 races without being in victory lane is almost unbelievable.
finished 1st. shows you to go with your gut/ brain and not your heart. stewart shows hes not too fat to climb any fence 5 weeks into the season. you cant keep him out of the top 10 for long and he always gets hotter as the season goes on. watch out!
4. jimmy johnson- just his starting position and pit row choise could be enough for the victory.
finished 3rd. and it almost was. he never dropped out of the top 5 all day and led 2nd most to stewart
5. matt kenseth- he is matt kenseth, his pit crew has been top notch since hes been in the series. his pit stall could hurt him though
finished 24th. he never had a winning car but definitely a top 10 car before he crashed and was out of the race with 7 laps to go
6. k. kahne- for no other reason that hes been doing good all year
finished 35th. had a top 5 car till he lost a cylender. hung around on the lead lap until his engine finally went kaput late in the race

watch for veterans like j. nemecheck23rd, d. jarrett15th, k. schrader40th and k. petty30th in that order. their veteran status should help at this track.if you watched these guys you missed a hell of alot better racing and saw a bunch of older dudes suck, spin, lose engines, and fight just to get a lap back

notables:

mark martin is 2nd in points after 5 races. isnt he always 2nd in the points. other than rusty, this is one dude i wish never would retire.
dale jr. had one hell of a day. he brought a beat up racecar home 4th, surviving 2 wrecks and multiple charges up through the field with no front fender to lean on. while he may never be as great as some hope for or ecpect (and he will never top his dads accomplishments) he definitely deserves every bit of fanfare he gets. he is an excellent driver and trully handled himself with class and like a champ in the post race interviews. he definitely seems to be the epitome of "keeping it real"
shot out to scott riggs with a 10th place finish. of course i gotta say this, having picked him out of all "c" drivers to have the best finish in fantasy.

daleemnm
04-02-2006, 10:44 PM
Woo! Awesome run by Jr. I think he still could've contended for the win if dumbass Newman didnt wreck him.

BB2W
04-02-2006, 11:01 PM
Woo! Awesome run by Jr. I think he still could've contended for the win if dumbass Newman didnt wreck him.
Nice comeback by Jr. I had him going in our fantasy league so I was pulling for him. :cool:

tony hipchest
04-02-2006, 11:02 PM
Woo! Awesome run by Jr. I think he still could've contended for the win if dumbass Newman didnt wreck him.that wasnt newmans fault. dale and ryan have actually raced eachother really clean throughout their career (remember ryans win in the all star race his rookie season?) infact there are plenty of races ryan and rusty both couldve done better if they were more open to working with jr. ryan has always raced jr. with respect though. jr. was a class act commenting on it after the race. he almost seemed to take some of the blame himself when he was in no way in the wrong.

daleemnm
04-03-2006, 12:07 AM
that wasnt newmans fault. dale and ryan have actually raced eachother really clean throughout their career (remember ryans win in the all star race his rookie season?) infact there are plenty of races ryan and rusty both couldve done better if they were more open to working with jr. ryan has always raced jr. with respect though. jr. was a class act commenting on it after the race. he almost seemed to take some of the blame himself when he was in no way in the wrong.

Jr did spin him out at Atlanta in 2003 but other than that they have raced each other clean. Jr is pretty much a clean racer.

MasterOfPuppets
04-03-2006, 12:27 AM
Jr did spin him out at Atlanta in 2003 but other than that they have raced each other clean. Jr is pretty much a clean racer.
yeah....he only spins himself out when he needs a caution...speaking of which,didn't newman try that today??

tony hipchest
04-03-2006, 12:38 AM
yeah....he only spins himself out when he needs a caution...speaking of which,didn't newman try that today?? i still dont know how newman caused the caution. i think it was when they were at commercial and going through audio difficulties when it happened.

MasterOfPuppets
04-03-2006, 12:51 AM
i still dont know how newman caused the caution. i think it was when they were at commercial and going through audio difficulties when it happened.
well they said he was penalized a lap for intentionally bringing out the caution.

SteelerzGirl
04-03-2006, 01:02 AM
I hope JG dedicates the win to "All the 24 haters"...

Oh man, that would have been priceless...(lol)! Let's hope Jeff gets a win here soon so maybe he can dedicate it to all the #24 team haters.

By the way, my loverboy Jimmie is back in the points lead. Right where he belongs. Oh yes he does! Mmmm mmmm good! :bouncy: