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tony hipchest
04-03-2006, 05:20 PM
f.a. cb from the chiefs is a 30 year old, 8yr veteran, with 20 int.:screwy: probably not the type of f.a. splash the patfans have been hoping for, but have come to expect. is this guy just a clone of d. starks?

the price for woodson and law just got cheaper.

oops. heres all i can find for a link:http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/reiss_pieces/

Suitanim
04-03-2006, 05:40 PM
They didn't get any younger in the secondary with this signing...It's looking like a rebuilding year and addressing needs in the draft.

clevestinks
04-03-2006, 06:28 PM
?? Everybody Loves somebody!

Livinginthe past
04-04-2006, 01:11 AM
We have plenty of youth in the secondary - unfortunately alot of it lacks experience - mostly due to injury.

A list of our DB roster and years played.

Eugene Wilson - 3 years vet.
Guss Scott - 1 years
James Sanders - 1 years
Asante Samuel - 3 years
Ellis Hobbs - 1 year
Randall Gay - 2 years

All of these guys have started games for the Patriots - and most of them have missed significant time due to injury - nearly always just after they break into the first team.

Funnily enough I am relatively happy with our depth at DB - I imagine Warfield will be brought into to compete for a roster space - and let go if he doesnt make it.

I dont think we are putting as many eggs in the Warfield basket as we did with Starks.

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tony hipchest
04-04-2006, 01:15 AM
you left off c. scott and h. poteat.

if thats not depth its definitely bodies filling spots.

have fun being "relatively happy"

warfield better "fish or cut bait", he could lose his newfound #3/#4 cb job to a rookie if he dont step up

MattsMe
04-04-2006, 01:20 AM
I think we've seen the last of Tom Brady's rings. Looks like the Pats will spend the next few years being a fairly competitive team, before tapering off to something like 6-10 about the time Brady retires. I would say this is a pattern that can't be avoided, but it seems to me the Pats could have easily avoided it by loosening the purse strings a little.

Livinginthe past
04-04-2006, 01:29 AM
you left off c. scott and h. poteat.

if thats not depth its definitely bodies filling spots.

have fun being "relatively happy"

warfield better "fish or cut bait", he could lose his newfound #3/#4 cb job to a rookie if he dont step up

Well Tony,

I left them off as I dont think that either fulfils the criteria I set out - youth plus experience as a starter ( Poteat started one career game but this was only due to the Pats resting starters against Miami late last year)

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tony hipchest
04-04-2006, 01:35 AM
gotcha. (although i did think the criteria was being a db on the patriots roster "A list of our DB roster and years played".
. pardon me for properly comprehending what i read). warfield will definitely have competition though. how any team can cary as many db's on the roster and still be depleted by years end still baffles me.

Livinginthe past
04-04-2006, 01:36 AM
I think we've seen the last of Tom Brady's rings. Looks like the Pats will spend the next few years being a fairly competitive team, before tapering off to something like 6-10 about the time Brady retires. I would say this is a pattern that can't be avoided, but it seems to me the Pats could have easily avoided it by loosening the purse strings a little.

Im sure the Patriots F.O. will feel ashamed at the way you layed out the blueprint for success with such ease.

I hav to wonder about what sort of idiots we have in charge that they didnt arrive at the same conclusion you did....you aren't a GM for another NFL team are you?

'Loosen the purse strings' - thats some pretty inspired thinking right there.

I dont think Nostradamus will be fretting in the afterlife about any of your far reaching predictions - it was good of you to map out the next 10 years of TB's career though. :cool:

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Livinginthe past
04-04-2006, 01:39 AM
gotcha. (although i did think the criteria was being a db on the patriots roster). warfield will definitely have competition though. how any team can cary as many db's on the roster and still be depleted by years end still baffles me.

Yes it is pretty amazing when you think about it.

Alot was made of the fact that ageing Vets broke down for us last year (Poole, Starks) but I have no clue as to why we are losing so much playing time from guys with their whole careers ahead of them!

Maybe its something to with fitness and conditioning - or else its just plain bad luck.

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MattsMe
04-04-2006, 01:41 AM
Im sure the Patriots F.O. will feel ashamed at the way you layed out the blueprint for success with such ease.

I hav to wonder about what sort of idiots we have in charge that they didnt arrive at the same conclusion you did....you aren't a GM for another NFL team are you?

'Loosen the purse strings' - thats some pretty inspired thinking right there.

I dont think Nostradamus will be fretting in the afterlife about any of your far reaching predictions - it was good of you to map out the next 10 years of TB's career though. :cool:

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Call it a hunch. Or call it simple odds calculating. Or call it logic.

32 teams in the league, which means Brady has a 16 to 1 shot of playing in the Superbowl in any given year. So he would need at least 8 more years to give himself just a 50% chance at another ring. But this could all be irrelevant. I mean, it's just odds...and everyone knows mathematical odds are never reliable. Just look at all the bookies and casinos going broke because the odds are in their favor...:rolleyes: Yeah, only idiots rely on odds...the really smart ones use delusion to predict the future.

Tha rock
04-04-2006, 01:42 AM
hes weak but with your good schemes he may be good your coach can make him good.

Livinginthe past
04-04-2006, 01:47 AM
hes weak but with your good schemes he may be good your coach can make him good.

Yeah - I hear the lowdown on him is that he is weak in coverage - which is a bit worrying when your job description is Defensive Back!

Last year some of our weaker DB's were exposed - becasue we lost bodies in the D-Line and the LB corps - with no pressure on the QB or resistance against the run the DB's were often left exposed on an island.

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tony hipchest
04-04-2006, 01:50 AM
I have no clue as to why we are losing so much playing time from guys with their whole careers ahead of them!

NM

the average nfl players career lasts 3 years. you telling me these youngsters you mention are above average?

Livinginthe past
04-04-2006, 01:52 AM
gotcha. (although i did think the criteria was being a db on the patriots roster "A list of our DB roster and years played".
. pardon me for properly comprehending what i read). warfield will definitely have competition though. how any team can cary as many db's on the roster and still be depleted by years end still baffles me.

I dont really want to get bogged down in semantics here Tony.

We have plenty of youth in the secondary - unfortunately alot of it lacks experience - mostly due to injury.

All of these guys have started games for the Patriots

Here is where I outlined the criteria - youth and a history of starting games.

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tony hipchest
04-04-2006, 01:57 AM
A list of our DB roster and years played.

Eugene Wilson - 3 years vet.
Guss Scott - 1 years
James Sanders - 1 years
Asante Samuel - 3 years
Ellis Hobbs - 1 year
Randall Gay - 2 years

NM

strange! my reading comprehension must not be as good as i remembered.

Livinginthe past
04-04-2006, 01:57 AM
the average nfl players career lasts 3 years. you telling me these youngsters you mention are above average?

Wow. I believe the average is 4 years (just googled it) but will have to admit by being utterly amazed at this statistic.

Im guessing the average is brought down by the amount of players that get drafted in in rounds 4-7, or UDFA's and never actually get to start and leave football after a year or so.

I would expect the average career length for an NFL player who has started for his team to be much higher than 4 years - 6 or 7 at a guess.

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Livinginthe past
04-04-2006, 02:13 AM
Call it a hunch. Or call it simple odds calculating. Or call it logic.

32 teams in the league, which means Brady has a 16 to 1 shot of playing in the Superbowl in any given year. So he would need at least 8 more years to give himself just a 50% chance at another ring. But this could all be irrelevant. I mean, it's just odds...and everyone knows mathematical odds are never reliable. Just look at all the bookies and casinos going broke because the odds are in their favor...:rolleyes: Yeah, only idiots rely on odds...the really smart ones use delusion to predict the future.

So you think that Kurt Warner and the Cards have the same 'odds' of going to this years SB as Tom Brady and the Pats?

If you ever set up in business as one of those bookies - let me know..ill remortgage the house and take some of those juicy odds.

By the way if your over simplified 'logic' and 'mathematics' did pan out then your boy Ben R. has exactly the same chance of not seeing another SB for the next 8 years.

How does that sound to you? :sofunny:

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MattsMe
04-05-2006, 01:51 AM
By the way if your over simplified 'logic' and 'mathematics' did pan out then your boy Ben R. has exactly the same chance of not seeing another SB for the next 8 years.

How does that sound to you? :sofunny:

NM

Logical. Not accurate when you look at other factors, but logical. Anyway, have fun with this. You bore me.

HburgXL06
04-05-2006, 02:31 AM
Well Tony,

I left them off as I dont think that either fulfils the criteria I set out - youth plus experience as a starter ( Poteat started one career game but this was only due to the Pats resting starters against Miami late last year)

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LITP, I'm curious what can you tell me bout Poteat? I'm askin bout him because he's originally from my hometown in Harrisburg, PA....that's good and bad. I don't know what kind of player or person he is (if you know let me know) but I know his father was involved in a big case involving him as superintendant of the Harrisburg city school district and how corrupt he was. Just wonderin bout what his career history is and how he's played and what kind of guy he is. I appreciate it man. Peace.

BuFu

Livinginthe past
04-05-2006, 09:14 AM
Logical. Not accurate when you look at other factors, but logical. Anyway, have fun with this. You bore me.

Oh dear. Some one sounds upset at having their over-simplistic theories blown out of the water.

Can't wait for the next one, Mr. Bookie.

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Livinginthe past
04-05-2006, 09:32 AM
LITP, I'm curious what can you tell me bout Poteat? I'm askin bout him because he's originally from my hometown in Harrisburg, PA....that's good and bad. I don't know what kind of player or person he is (if you know let me know) but I know his father was involved in a big case involving him as superintendant of the Harrisburg city school district and how corrupt he was. Just wonderin bout what his career history is and how he's played and what kind of guy he is. I appreciate it man. Peace.

BuFu

Hey HburgXL06,

Ok here is my low down on Hank Poteat.

He is definitely one those players who has developed a bit of a cult following with Patriot fans.

His first action as a Patriot came in the 2004 season - ironically, against the Steelers in the 41-27 conference game victory.

It was very limited action, but I am sure the fact that he came from Pittsburgh, and played a small part in beating them, drew Pats fans attention to him.

Poteat seen a little more action in 2005, mostly due to the awful amount of injuries the DB division suffered in New England.

Featuring in 7 regular season games (starting in 1 against Miami) plus some action in the two post season games.

To me, Poteat is a very solid tackling nickel/dime back - he may not have the sort of coverage skills you need from a DB starter - but once he gets hold of an opposition WR the guy isn't getting away.

There has been a 'Hank Poteat Watch' over at Patfans.com for the last couple of years - the guy is currently on target to make the cut to the final 53 - but a mid round draft pick choice by the Pats could knock him from this position.

I think a reason for his popularity is that he has been picked up twice in mid-season by the Pats and has been professional to keep himself fit enough to be able to step right into the 53 if needed.

I can't remember Hank letting us down.

For other bio info.

http://www.patriots.com/team/index.cfm?ac=playerbio&bio=30908

NM