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MikeHaullace
12-05-2010, 01:30 AM
I started following the Steelers devoutly in 1990. I understood the game and wanted to be just like my dad. He wanted me to be a Steelers fan just like him. He started me young (see: birth) and had me hooked by 10. (Super Bowl XIV was played weeks before my birth.)

At the end of the 2005 season, I told my wife I was going to give it one more season. One more season to see if they can repeat. Then I am done.

So one more season, they got. Little did I know, Cowher had all but shipped it in long before the season even started. Camp Cupcake showed things to come and when the dust settled, though not a complete failure, it was a .500 season because of a coach that apparently had nothing else to prove and a family to be with and take care of.

Hmmm....

Enter another young coach with the excitement and passion of a player coupled with the collectedness and confidence of a bona fied leader.

I'll give them one more season.

They have a typical Steelers season, make the playoffs, and lose on what I saw to be the most rediculous non-call on a hold I've ever seen. Furious I was. (Skip to 1:29)

5_SyywS0W2A#t=1m29s

There is no way it was going to end like that. That, combined with the fact they were playing Dallas in Pittsburgh. Yeah. One more season.

We know how that turned out. [6]

One more season. Possible repeat.

Troy goes down. Aaron, not long after. Mid-season slide. Miss the playoffs by a nose. This team is way too talented not to do something meaningful. And next season's Super Bowl will be played in my backyard. One more season.

That brings us to today.

F^%K YOU, Roger Goodell. F^%K YOU, veeeeee-ry very much, Roger Goodell

You will NOT. Under any circumstances whatsoever. Get anything that resembles...

One more season.

pete74
12-05-2010, 03:53 AM
I love football to much to ever stop watching. I obviously love the steelers the most but if I could I would watch every single game. Hell, I love it so much that I'm sitting in bed down in Orlando FL reading football news at 4am.

Now the one thing I don't like Is Goodell like you. He is hurting the game and people need to step up. I understand trying to protect the players he's taking it to far. This is football. They make a ton of money to play so let them play. Hard hits are part of the game. Hell they could be working in a coal mine somewere for $12 an hour destroying there bodys alot more.

MasterOfPuppets
12-05-2010, 04:45 AM
One more season to see if they can repeat. Then I am done.

so what are you sayin ? your a fair weather fan ? win it all or i'm not a fan anymore ?

MikeHaullace
12-05-2010, 04:56 AM
so what are you sayin ? your a fair weather fan ? win it all or i'm not a fan anymore ?

No. No. Really? No. Not at all. Are you always so quick to try to "'put words into people's mouths" in the form of questions?

Perhaps you missed the word "devoutly" in the very first sentence.

Because had you actually read that... And forgive me if I am being overly-presumptuous* here... Had you actually read that, you would have immediately known I was pre-facing myself as anything BUT a fair-weather fan.

P.S. - you're

* - i will give you the benefit of the doubt that the meaning of 'devout' is not part of your vernacular.

Rick5895
12-05-2010, 05:55 AM
so what are you sayin ? your a fair weather fan ? win it all or i'm not a fan anymore ?

I think you missed the point here M O P. He is every bit as rabid as we are, Mike is just using an interesting play on words.

Great post Mike.

:tt04::tt::tt02::helmet:

steelerdave1969
12-05-2010, 07:45 AM
I know that injuries happen and they are gonna happen anyways no matter what the comish thinks is a hard or illegal hit. But if your gonna flag and fine Harrison everytime he touches a QB then what happens when someone punches our QB in the Face? Or 2 players Jerk Each Others Helmets off and start Punching the other in the head . . what ya gonna do to them? Fine the $25,000? No suspension?
They gotta get it fixed soon and people like Finnegan need to get what they deserve and last sunday afternoon was a great start by Johnson. Then for NFL Films to have the conversations all on video of Finnegan telling the other players to watch this? . . Come On Man ! ! !
Thats proof enough in the puddin' right there to me.:coffee:

joeyssteelcurtain
12-05-2010, 08:44 AM
I kinda know what he is saying. Ever time the steelers break my heart in the playoffs I tell my self i am done .I guess its my way to cope But knowing come next season I will be counting down till week 1

SteelCityMom
12-05-2010, 09:14 AM
I've had these moments as both a Steelers and Penguins fan. Sometimes you come back out of excitement and expectation. Sometimes you come back because you're a horrible masochist. :chuckle:

4xSBChamps
12-05-2010, 10:35 AM
I started following the Steelers devoutly in 1990. I understood the game and wanted to be just like my dad. He wanted me to be a Steelers fan just like him. He started me young (see: birth) and had me hooked by 10.

by age 7, I was going to the old Black & Gold scrimmage at McKee Stadium in Jeannette, Pa., attending 2-3 days of camp per-week at St. Vincent's during my dad's summer vacation (back-then, we were lucky to get 100 people showing-up at camp), and getting a ride from our home in Greensburg whenever possible when he was working, or convincing one of the guys' mothers to take us

the League built it's reputation on being as physical game, played by hard men, and didn't shy away from publicity like 'The Violent World of Sam Huff':

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/Glensgages/football/YATittlelastgameatPittStadium.jpg

the classic picture of Chuck Bednarik standing over a fallen & unconscious Frank Gifford epitomized the game of the 1960's

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/Glensgages/football/ChuckBednarikstandsoverFrankGifford.jpg

as that decade wore-on, 30 minute pre-game shows on CBS (NFL) & NBC (AFL) glamorized the images of contact & hitting ~ long-before ESPN, a little-known entity called 'NFL Films' began making weekly 1/2-hour clips, highlighting the previous weeks action, further cementing the physicality of the game:
vicious hits were shown in slow-motion, mouth-pieces & chin-straps flying, further enticing viewers to watch the League

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/Glensgages/football/MikeCurtiscreamsRomanGabriel.jpg

soon, Dick Butkus was speaking about 'running-back losing their heads', signs were hung at stadiums reading 'KILL, BUBBA, KILL', and nick-names like 'the Purple People Eaters' and 'Fearsome Foursome' became known to many Americans enamored with professisonal football:
the NFL used this publicity to surpass baseball as 'America's Game' without batting an eye

as the 1970's dawned, the League, fresh from the AFL/NFL merger, consolidated it's power, and it's publicity continued to grow with teams featuring names like the 'Steel Curtain' and the 'Doomsday Defense', and players called 'the Assassin', and 'Dracula in Cleats', with no-qualms about it's violent nature:
indeed, the networks looked-forward to the annual Raider-Steeler blood-lettings in the playoffs, because they generated record ratings & revenue

in the late 1970's (as it had been for 40 years), the game was based-on running the football, and playing defense, yet despite having become 'America's game', the League & owners decided that if they could increase scoring, they could make the game even-more palatable to the viewing-public (evidence that the college-boy / scumbags couldn't, or wouldn't, enjoy a hard-fought 16-10 game):
what had been holding (i.e. - open-hand pas-blocking) became legal, defenders couldn't play bump-n-run pass-coverage, sneezing in the general direction of the QB became ver-boten, and while scoring escalated, the game became a shell of it's former self

Rozelle passed the torch to Tagliabue, who gave-way to Nancy-boy Goodell, leading to what we have today, an over-hyped, over-commercialized 'fantasy'-driven version of basketball-on-grass:
the game's history & records have become bastardized because of these rule-changes, and despite Rogita's claims he is concerned about players' safety, he intends to increase the schedule from 16 to 18 games

I last spoke with my dad the day of the San Diego 1st round playoff game in January 2009, trying to reconcile after 7+ years of silence between us, as he knew that his time was short:
during the game, he said he loved the Steelers because 'they are the only team that still plays smash-mouth football', but I had to correct him, stating 'by TODAY'S standards, they play smash-mouth football, but this is still pass-n-tab... the League doesn't WANT smash-mouth footbal to be played anymore!', so during the remainder of that game, we discussed how-much the game had changed in the previous 40+ years, and before we said our final goodbyes, he frowned & admitted 'you are correct, this isn't the game we began watching many years ago'

he hung-on to watch that Super Bowl victory against the Red-Robins, and passed-away the next day, content he'd seen his Steelers win another Championship, but I think he realized the game had changed, and not-necessarily for the better

today, we have players fined $75,000 for tackles that don't draw penalty flags, while players who tear-off opponents' helmets and throw punches, which has NOTHING to do with the game of football, get 1/3 of that fine:
which incident gave the NFL a black eye to the general public?

tell me again how Rogita is worried about the 'League's image'?????

I haven't 'given-up' on the Steelers, per-se... I've grown tired of the League, and the game they have turned it into

SteelCityMom
12-05-2010, 11:00 AM
I haven't 'given-up' on the Steelers, per-se... I've grown tired of the League, and the game they have turned it into

Great story all around...and this last quote is pretty much how I feel right now as well. I haven't gotten to see nearly as much football as you have, but grew up when the game was still about physicality and NOT fantasy points.

My Dad passed away a few years before SBXL...but he would be particularly ashamed of what the league has turned into in such a short time.

I'll always agree with Goodell and the league on one thing though...head shots in particular are dangerous, and it's obviously an issue that needed addressed. I have no issues with fines for dangerous head shots (but think fines are not enough of a deterrent). BUT, they should only be handed out for blatant, intentional violations and he's a money driven asshole for wanting to extend the season before addressing the problem of making it mandatory to use the safest helmets and gear available.

iceman000123
12-05-2010, 02:05 PM
I'm only 19 so I'm pretty sure most people here have experienced much more then I have but do my research though. Though I'm not from Pittsburgh my dad was a steelers dad thus I grew up watching then and learned to love em. I doubt I'll ever be able to just stop watching em'. No matter the circumstances. I have watched a lot of football before my time so I do appreciate good PHYSICAL football. I see what Goodell is trying to do (when it comes to player safety)...He's just being an complete ass and going about it the wrong way. smh

4xSBChamps
12-05-2010, 02:26 PM
... I have no issues with fines for dangerous head shots

the problem we have today is the guy who is sitting in-judgement of exactly what is a 'dangerous' head-shot, and what is part of the game, namely, planting your face in an opponents' chest, and driving him to the turf in a timely manner:
Rogita, trying to replace the fabric of the game, reminds me of the guy who thinks he can pick-up a turd by the clean-end, without getting his fingers dirty

(but think fines are not enough of a deterrent). BUT, they should only be handed out for blatant, intentional violations...

the same week that Harrison took-out two Brownies, there was a blatant, late hit on an over-thrown pass to a Iggle WR (Tom Jackson's delinquent nephew?), that resulted in a smaller fine than Harrison's:
if Mr. Jane Skinner wants to rid the game of malicious hits, he should've suspended the offending DB (a Cheatriot?) 4 games minimum, made an announcement that the next similar hit, by any player in the League, would result in a suspension twice-as-long (8 games), and include the warning that all future suspensions would be doubled-again (16 games, then 32 games), damn whatever the NFLPA has to say

you do this once-or-twice, and the cheap-shot artists will have second-thoughts about delivering an unnecessary hit to an unprotected player, and/or teams will be reluctant to keep these type of players:
unfortunately, Goodell could play hockey without a cup

fer522
12-05-2010, 06:01 PM
i will give my beloved steelers one more season
and if we don't win it all....
i'll say i'm done, but
when the first pre-season game comes
i will turn the tv on and i will probably say one more season, one more season

SH-Rock
12-05-2010, 06:09 PM
I don't really understand this whole one more season.

Live as a Steeler fan
Die as a Steeler fan

SoCalFan
12-05-2010, 06:17 PM
:iagree:If you aint going to tune in,no matter what happens,YOU AINT A REAL FAN!!! sorry for yelling.

SteelCityMom
12-05-2010, 06:24 PM
the problem we have today is the guy who is sitting in-judgement of exactly what is a 'dangerous' head-shot, and what is part of the game, namely, planting your face in an opponents' chest, and driving him to the turf in a timely manner:
Rogita, trying to replace the fabric of the game, reminds me of the guy who thinks he can pick-up a turd by the clean-end, without getting his fingers dirty



the same week that Harrison took-out two Brownies, there was a blatant, late hit on an over-thrown pass to a Iggle WR (Tom Jackson's delinquent nephew?), that resulted in a smaller fine than Harrison's:
if Mr. Jane Skinner wants to rid the game of malicious hits, he should've suspended the offending DB (a Cheatriot?) 4 games minimum, made an announcement that the next similar hit, by any player in the League, would result in a suspension twice-as-long (8 games), and include the warning that all future suspensions would be doubled-again (16 games, then 32 games), damn whatever the NFLPA has to say

you do this once-or-twice, and the cheap-shot artists will have second-thoughts about delivering an unnecessary hit to an unprotected player, and/or teams will be reluctant to keep these type of players:
unfortunately, Goodell could play hockey without a cup

That's a little farther than I would have gone...but yeah, do that once or twice and watch the hits go way down. As it stands now, fining people does jack crap...especially if it's not called on the field. A 15 yard penalty is about as much of a deterrent as a 2 minute penalty is in hockey. That's one thing I think Bettman has gotten somewhat right with their new rules...Once they suspended Ovenchicken a couple of times, you saw the head shots go way, way down. That's when everyone knew the league was serious.

Goodell is all talk though...he could give a shit about the players.

Kanata-Steeler
12-05-2010, 07:23 PM
I started following the Steelers devoutly in 1990. I understood the game and wanted to be just like my dad. He wanted me to be a Steelers fan just like him. He started me young (see: birth) and had me hooked by 10. (Super Bowl XIV was played weeks before my birth.)

At the end of the 2005 season, I told my wife I was going to give it one more season. One more season to see if they can repeat. Then I am done.

So one more season, they got. Little did I know, Cowher had all but shipped it in long before the season even started. Camp Cupcake showed things to come and when the dust settled, though not a complete failure, it was a .500 season because of a coach that apparently had nothing else to prove and a family to be with and take care of.

Hmmm....

Enter another young coach with the excitement and passion of a player coupled with the collectedness and confidence of a bona fied leader.

I'll give them one more season.

They have a typical Steelers season, make the playoffs, and lose on what I saw to be the most rediculous non-call on a hold I've ever seen. Furious I was. (Skip to 1:29)

5_SyywS0W2A#t=1m29s

There is no way it was going to end like that. That, combined with the fact they were playing Dallas in Pittsburgh. Yeah. One more season.

We know how that turned out. [6]

One more season. Possible repeat.

Troy goes down. Aaron, not long after. Mid-season slide. Miss the playoffs by a nose. This team is way too talented not to do something meaningful. And next season's Super Bowl will be played in my backyard. One more season.

That brings us to today.

F^%K YOU, Roger Goodell. F^%K YOU, veeeeee-ry very much, Roger Goodell

You will NOT. Under any circumstances whatsoever. Get anything that resembles...

One more season.


I hear you bud, and with the Steelers', it always will be ONE MORE SEASON,..., and "ANY GIVEN SUNDAY",... thats just the way it is.
I still fell that the Steelers ripped-themselves outta 2 extra Rings since 2000+, instead we let the Pats steal it from us.
Roger Goad-darn-Dell can't do a thing about 2nite though ! -all bets are off.
The Ravens hit just as mean and hard as our silverback does,
But this one is all on US, if we lose to Ravens tonite, our season is pretty well over, but I hope not
;)

:tt04:

4xSBChamps
12-06-2010, 07:57 AM
the same week that Harrison took-out two Brownies, there was a blatant, late hit on an over-thrown pass to a Iggle WR (Tom Jackson's delinquent nephew?), that resulted in a smaller fine than Harrison's:
if Mr. Jane Skinner wants to rid the game of malicious hits, he should've suspended the offending DB (a Cheatriot?) 4 games minimum, made an announcement that the next similar hit, by any player in the League, would result in a suspension twice-as-long (8 games), and include the warning that all future suspensions would be doubled-again (16 games, then 32 games), damn whatever the NFLPA has to say

this is PRECISELY what Ms. Goodell should be concerned about ~ a blatant late, cheap-shot hit, REGARDLESS of which team threw, or received it;
the ball is dropped & gone, the receiver is falling towards the turf, yet the offending player takes at-LEAST another stride before delivering the hit

nVrNoK5Ab_E

cripes, even Pencil-Neck recognizes it, so you know it's obvious