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mesaSteeler
12-07-2010, 07:15 AM
Harris: LeBeau made right call: listening to players
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/print_712537.html
By John Harris
PITTSBURGH TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Tuesday, December 7, 2010

Players play and coaches coach, but Steelers defensive captain James Farrior and his teammates had seen enough Sunday night.

No more sitting back and taking it.

Enough with Baltimore Ravens quarterback Joe Flacco picking the secondary clean like a leftover Thanksgiving turkey. If the Steelers were going to win the AFC North, someone was going to have to take a bullet for the rest of the team.

Someone was going to have to tell defensive coordinator Dick LeBeau to call more blitzes.

Who better than Farrior? He's one of four co-captains and old enough (35) not to care what people think.

It wasn't easy for a popular veteran like Farrior to make suggestions to his coach, especially during a game. To Farrior, though, the alternative of losing was too unflattering to consider.

"We definitely felt we could get some good pressure. We just had to get the right calls in,'' Farrior said in the afterglow of the Steelers' gritty 13-10 win.

"That's what our guys were preaching on the sideline to the coaches. If we were gonna go down, we were gonna go down blitzing. We definitely didn't want to sit back. Coach LeBeau listened to us.''

In the first half, Flacco had his way with the Steelers. He navigated the longest scoring drive of his NFL career -- 92 yards. He completed passes of 61 and 67 yards and was 9 of 14 for 179 yards and a touchdown with a 131.5 passer rating.

Other than a first-quarter sack by defensive end Ziggy Hood, Flacco was rarely under duress. He was on his way to another score and a career game when momentum shifted.

On third-and-15 from the Steelers 32 in the second quarter, cornerback Ike Taylor caught Baltimore with a surprise blitz and sacked Flacco for an 11-yard loss. The play knocked Baltimore out of scoring position. Instead of trailing 14-0 or even 10-0 at halftime, the Steelers faced only a 7-0 deficit.

In the second half, the tables turned. The Steelers had their way with Flacco, who was 8 of 19 for 87 yards with a 65.8 passer rating, mainly due to a better pass rush making it difficult for him to step into his throws.

With LeBeau dealing out blitzes like a blackjack dealer shuffles cards, the Steelers overwhelmed Flacco with pressure.

"When you dial up the blitz, it's usually hit or miss,'' Taylor said. "We hit (Sunday) night.''

That's a gamble outside linebacker James Harrison wants to take more often.

"I'm of the feeling if you're gonna kill me, kill me at what I like to do and that's blitz,'' said Harrison, the Steelers' sack leader this season with 10.

"In earlier weeks, we were dropping in coverage (instead of blitzing). At the end of the Buffalo game last week, we dropped a whole lot more. This game we brought a lot more pressure than we did in the first (Baltimore) game.''

Flacco threw the decisive 18-yard touchdown pass to T.J. Houshmandzadeh with 34 seconds left in the Ravens' 17-14 win over the Steelers on Oct. 3. The Steelers didn't blitz on the play, and Flacco was free to throw without pressure.

Two months later, the Steelers defense didn't repeat that mistake when Flacco faced second-and-5 at the Baltimore 43 late in the fourth quarter.

Trailing 10-6, the Steelers' defense needed to make a big play or lose any realistic chance of winning the division.

Strong safety Troy Polamalu delivered, sacking Flacco from the blind side and forcing a fumble that led to the Steelers' winning touchdown.

"We felt like we could disrupt, get in Flacco's face, if they gave us an opportunity,'' said Farrior, who recorded a team-high seven tackles and sacked Flacco in the fourth quarter.

"We don't question Coach LeBeau and the decisions he makes. Sometimes we just try to throw something out there and maybe he'll listen. Everybody has their own idea what we should be doing, but he's the guy.''

A smart guy, to be sure. Great coaches aren't too big to listen to their players. To his credit, LeBeau listened.

John Harris can be reached at jharris@tribweb.com or 412-481-5432.

Rick5895
12-07-2010, 07:45 AM
I would rather give up 1 or 2 big plays because we got caught in a blitz. Getting beat on long drives is demoralizing. Hopefully we keep it up the rest of the way, run the table and have that 13-3 record and march right on into Dallas.
Some games and some things players say to coaches tend to be a catalyst of greatness. I beleive that is what happened in Baltimore on Sunday. We will be propelled to the Stairway to Seven.

truesteelerfan
12-07-2010, 01:24 PM
Great call for our D leader Farrior to approach LeBeau, and kudos for him listening to his leaders. NOW, if we get to play the Cheatriots in the post season....hopefully they will have some suggestions for playcalls to be made....as much as I love LeBeau...he never seems to be able to stop gay Brady...maybe the players will have a better idea as to how to stop them.

Whodis
12-07-2010, 01:32 PM
I hope we live by this for the rest of the season. Baltimore beat Brady with pressure

California-Steel
12-07-2010, 01:44 PM
Now can someone start talking to Bruce? He needs to stop picking his plays out of a hat and come up with a real game plan. Look at the team you are facing and put together and plan to attack weaknesses. Not force the same stale set of plays you use week in and week out.

steve314
12-07-2010, 03:08 PM
I would rather give up 1 or 2 big plays because we got caught in a blitz. Getting beat on long drives is demoralizing.

Getting beat on long drives also tires out the defense, right?

Steelerfreak58
12-07-2010, 03:35 PM
Now can someone start talking to Bruce? He needs to stop picking his plays out of a hat and come up with a real game plan. Look at the team you are facing and put together and plan to attack weaknesses. Not force the same stale set of plays you use week in and week out.

Truth

TRH
12-07-2010, 03:37 PM
Nice to hear.
I'd rather get beat on a couple plays than let someone stand back there all day and pick us apart on short slants and sideline passes. That KILLS us. Wish we would've "heavy blitzed" Brady on every play....thats the only way you beat him.

Steelerfreak58
12-07-2010, 03:37 PM
Sunday nights win against the Ravens was a great adjustment defensively in the second half. This team is built to blitz. Every time this year they have dropped off and rushed a 3 man they get clobbered. Keep bringing the heat. Its not called Blitzburgh for nothing!

WeegiesWarriors
12-07-2010, 04:53 PM
It's disheartening to think we have to blitz to get pressure. The 3-4 can apply pressure with 4 rushers... the 4th being disguised before the snap. Put it this way, if we can't get pressure with 4 guys against a possible rematch with the Patriots we lose. Simple as that.

Not at all saying not to blitz. Just pick your spots.

SH-Rock
12-07-2010, 05:11 PM
I really think Lebeau has been more reserved because of the secondary, but he should really know that bringing pressure is always necessary. Even at being over a hundred he's still learning.

kirklandrules
12-07-2010, 06:48 PM
Harris: LeBeau made right call: listening to players

Flacco threw the decisive 18-yard touchdown pass to T.J. Houshmandzadeh with 34 seconds left in the Ravens' 17-14 win over the Steelers on Oct. 3. The Steelers didn't blitz on the play, and Flacco was free to throw without pressure.

That's a misleading statement. The Steelers did bring pressure on that play. They overloaded one side of the line with Troy and Harrison, but the Ravens went with a max protect call (7 blockers) and picked up the extra rushers. My questions are: did the Ravens use max protect in this game? If they did, what did the Steelers do differently to get to Flacco. If they didn't use max protect, why not?

Steelboy84
12-07-2010, 07:05 PM
LeBeau is a player's coach. So he'll listen to his players. Great job.

fer522
12-07-2010, 08:14 PM
It's disheartening to think we have to blitz to get pressure. The 3-4 can apply pressure with 4 rushers... the 4th being disguised before the snap. Put it this way, if we can't get pressure with 4 guys against a possible rematch with the Patriots we lose. Simple as that.

Not at all saying not to blitz. Just pick your spots.


the giants blitzed Tom GAYdy pretty much the whole game(superbowl 42) and the only score 14 points and OUR D is just as good as that D or BETTER

:tt03: :tt02: :tt03:

theplatypus
12-07-2010, 08:33 PM
That's a misleading statement. The Steelers did bring pressure on that play. They overloaded one side of the line with Troy and Harrison, but the Ravens went with a max protect call (7 blockers) and picked up the extra rushers. My questions are: did the Ravens use max protect in this game? If they did, what did the Steelers do differently to get to Flacco. If they didn't use max protect, why not?

On the two long passes by Flacco they went max protect, but Clark bit on the play action once and Mcfadden on the other.

austinfrench76
12-07-2010, 09:54 PM
BLITZ!!!! Let's be honest, our secondary (CB's) is not very good (i know, big shock) however; we have the personnel to make the QB's life miserable and I say no more trying to hide the CB's and let's hit some folks. It was hard to watch Brady pick us apart. I say if you're gonna get beat, get beat bad like a long pass. Don't get picked apart. i know that's not conventional but we have a heck of a linebacking corps. Nice call Lebeau!

ricardisimo
12-07-2010, 11:09 PM
I hope we live by this for the rest of the season. Baltimore beat Brady with pressure
Did you mean Cleveland? I think they did it mostly by running the ball, which for some reason the Jets (and Steelers, for that matter) decided not to do, despite the fact that they were doing so quite effectively. Wanna beat the Cheats? Run the ball, eat up the clock, keep Brady off the field.

Of course, that's exactly what the Patriots are going to be expecting us to do, so there's no way that sly dog Bruce Arians will fall for that. Nope. Passes and gadget plays, here we come. :banging:

lionslicer
12-07-2010, 11:49 PM
It's disheartening to think we have to blitz to get pressure. The 3-4 can apply pressure with 4 rushers... the 4th being disguised before the snap. Put it this way, if we can't get pressure with 4 guys against a possible rematch with the Patriots we lose. Simple as that.

Not at all saying not to blitz. Just pick your spots.

Not getting preasure with 4 guys is the blitzing linebacker not playing well or getting held too much. I haven't seen many exotic blitzes though. A lot of James Harrison in a 3 point stance, so you know he'll rush, its essentially just a 4-3 defense at that point. Same goes for Woodley. They still have run a lot of 1 down linemen and 4-5 linebackers crowding the line of scrimmage to confuse everyone, but it seemed to be called a lot more in the 2nd half against the Ravens.

The odd looks will force quarterbacks to throw short, which is bad against the steelers zone as we've seen in the past, which is why 6 guys will be on the line of scrimmage but a couple will still step back and cause a disruption or Keisel gets his hands up. After the quarterback gets used to players dropping back, he'll audible or look for a longer pass play, thats when LeBeau usually calls a big blitz. But its a chess game, he doesn't know when the quarterback will do this, he just has to guess, but he usually knows when a quarterback will do what he wants.

lionslicer
12-07-2010, 11:52 PM
Did you mean Cleveland? I think they did it mostly by running the ball, which for some reason the Jets (and Steelers, for that matter) decided not to do, despite the fact that they were doing so quite effectively. Wanna beat the Cheats? Run the ball, eat up the clock, keep Brady off the field.

Of course, that's exactly what the Patriots are going to be expecting us to do, so there's no way that sly dog Bruce Arians will fall for that. Nope. Passes and gadget plays, here we come. :banging:

Teams are afraid to do this because Brady scores everytime he's on the field. You play eat the clock but only score a field goal, Brady will beat you with touchdowns or field goals if you just punt. He's turned into what Manning was a couple years, a scoring machine, and it doesn't have to be him, he'll get his team down there then let the running backs and OL pound the rock while the defense is tired.

If a team stopped Brady on his first drive, they'd have confidense to run the clock, but usually Brady scores and the other team goes into panic mode.

zsheik22
12-08-2010, 08:03 AM
Watch NE play. They will run almost the same play on the same person until it stops working. When it stops working, they go somewhere else and keep using it again until they can defend it. It has been the best play calling i've seen so far.

Whodis
12-08-2010, 08:13 AM
Did you mean Cleveland? I think they did it mostly by running the ball, which for some reason the Jets (and Steelers, for that matter) decided not to do, despite the fact that they were doing so quite effectively. Wanna beat the Cheats? Run the ball, eat up the clock, keep Brady off the field.

Of course, that's exactly what the Patriots are going to be expecting us to do, so there's no way that sly dog Bruce Arians will fall for that. Nope. Passes and gadget plays, here we come. :banging:

I did mean Cleveland... my bad. It's a fact that Brady will come unglued if your in his face.

lionslicer
12-08-2010, 01:13 PM
Watch NE play. They will run almost the same play on the same person until it stops working. When it stops working, they go somewhere else and keep using it again until they can defend it. It has been the best play calling i've seen so far.

If they can't stop a play, why stop calling it? - John Madden.

One of the few intellegent things Madden has said in the past, but he's right, being simple sometimes is the best way to win.

MasterOfPuppets
12-08-2010, 01:59 PM
Someone was going to have to tell defensive coordinator Dick LeBeau to call more blitzes.

This game we brought a lot more pressure than we did in the first (Baltimore) game.''

here's what i said after the last raven's game...

i don't think the D played bad, i think lebeau just had a bad gameplan. too conservative. they strayed away from whats been successful against flacco , and thats blitz the hell out of him and force turnovers. today we seen a lot of 3 man rushes.

as i said, they were playing too conservative... blame those soft cushions and all day to throw the ball on lebeau. he seldom brought the pressure like he normally does against flacco. you guys act like its the players decision to play 15 yds off the line of scrimage...its not.

http://forums.steelersfever.com/showthread.php?p=852539#post852539

and yes , i'm patting myself on the back...:chuckle:

lionslicer
12-08-2010, 02:26 PM
here's what i said after the last raven's game...





http://forums.steelersfever.com/showthread.php?p=852539#post852539

and yes , i'm patting myself on the back...:chuckle:

because youre a poopscalion