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boLT fan
04-07-2006, 06:49 PM
Saw this posted on another forum from someone reacting to all the people believing Philip will be a god. You never know, it could happen! :sofunny:


Actually, my predictions are less of a game-by-game analysis and more of an objective and unbiased look at the rational results one can expect from starting Philip Rivers.

Year 1 of the Rivers Era will result in a record of 11-5 and a loss in the playoffs.

Year 2 will result in a record of 12-4 and a loss in the AFC championship game.

Year 3 will result in a record of 15-1, a Chargers' Super Bowl ring and Rivers' first Pro Bowl.

Years 4 through 11 will result in Chargers' Super Bowl rings and Pro Bowls every year for Rivers, allowing Rivers to meet almost all of the incentive clauses in his contract. After year 11, Canton voters change the rules to make Rivers the first active player voted into the Hall of Fame.

Years 12 and 13 result in Chargers' Super Bowl rings and Pro Bowls every year for Rivers.

A career behind a shoddy OL catches up with Rivers in year 14, and for the first time in his life, Rivers misses a game. Fortunately, he returns for the playoffs, and the Chargers win the Super Bowl yet again.

Years 15 through 19 result in Chargers' Super Bowl rings and Pro Bowls every year for Rivers. After year 19, Rivers retires, and the nation goes into mourning.

Soon after retiring, Rivers runs for governor of California, and is elected in a landslide. A few years later, Rivers is elected President of the United States by the largest margin of victory in U.S. political history. After the election, the losing candidate remarks, "There was nothing we could do. We tried to dig up dirt on the guy, but there was nothing. Philip Rivers is the perfect human being."

Within one year of being elected President, peace on Earth is universally recognized. All national boundaries cease to exist, and Rivers is elected President of Earth. The NFL becomes the WFL, and many former NFL teams are eliminated, including all California teams other than the Chargers, who are chosen due to their amazing number of Super Bowls and renamed the California Chargers. Hercules Rivers, the seventh of Rivers' 24 children, leads the Calfornia Chargers to the first WFL championship.

World peace continues until Philip Rivers passes away at the age of 105. Fortunately, many of Rivers' children have since become political leaders, and world peace continues. Most notably, Rivers' ninth child, Amelia Rivers, becomes the first female president of the World, and her successor, Rivers' 16th child, Abraham Rivers, is regarded as a truly great compromiser for his ability to find a solution to the most troubling dispute of the time, whether Miller Lite tastes great or is less filling.

By the way, if you think that is something, you should see what Rivers' grandkids do...the aliens never knew what hit them!


This article is a joke, if you take it seriously you should be shot.

tony hipchest
04-07-2006, 06:56 PM
we know thats a joke. as long as tom brady is around atleast. (except for against denver)

BIGBENFASTWILLIE
04-07-2006, 07:25 PM
:dang: Rivers is gonna be great, he was picked ahead of BIG BEN!!!!! remember?????

Suitanim
04-07-2006, 08:07 PM
At my old board, the Rivers vs. Ben vs. Eli subject was literally beaten to death for months. We also prognosticated on some other QB's futures. We came up with:

Ben- The pick the Steelers needed.
Eli- Good, not quite NFL ready, has the tools to succeed
Rivers- Bernie Kosar lite...probable NFL bust

The other predictions?

Carson Palmer needs a couple seasons, but will be a good QB
Kyle Boller will be a bust.

This may all seem to be a bit 20/20 in hindsight, but stlrs4life and ambridge can back me up on this.

Anyway, the point is, the concensus was and remains to this day that Rivers is a mediocre NFL QB at best. He has a slow and awkward release, is as immobile as Can't Graham, and can't make all the throws an NFL QB needs to make. If the Chargers run a pure West Coast Offense, where he's NEVER asked to throw the ball downfield, he may be adquate.

I say bust.

boLT fan
04-07-2006, 08:37 PM
Thanks, Suit, for completely ignoring the point of this post to make it into your own person Rivers bashing thread. Just like you seem to do every time PR is mentioned.

I like how you know 100% certain he will be a bust before him ever having a good amount on consistant playing time. There is almost nothing on Rivers that can prove him to be a bust unless you think that playing bad in college makes you bad in the NFL (ala Ryan Leaf). I'm not saying he will be a god, but with any information we DO have it would suggest he wouldn't be a bust. Unless you want to make up random bullcrap to make your bust theory seem valid.

Suitanim
04-07-2006, 08:51 PM
There is SOME good news...you can always draft yet ANOTHER QB next year, and he may not suck or be traded away. Maybe.

Enjoy your 8-8 (at best) 2006, Chargers fan.

boLT fan
04-07-2006, 09:08 PM
:blah: :jerkit:

Suitanim
04-07-2006, 09:16 PM
The absolutely beautiful thing about all this is that a season of football will start soon, and the Chargers have thrown all their eggs into the Phillip Rivers basket, so there can be no more debate. He'll fail, or he won't, so it's a pretty black and white issue.

I'm just happy that the Steelers aren't managed by the Chargers FO...they might try to trade Ben for a 2nd and promote Rod Rutherford.

tony hipchest
04-07-2006, 09:16 PM
just think, if the giants didnt screw up and went ahead and drafted ben as planned the chargers could had ben roethlisberger and shawn merriman for the price of eli manning. an offensive AND defensive rookie of the year back to back. i bet thats never been done before.

Suitanim
04-07-2006, 09:30 PM
Well, the Giants never had Ben as their pick, nor did the Chargers, that was all team smoke screens...everybody got exactly what they wanted, and it's worked out okay for 2 of the 3 teams so far. However, one team is in for a rude awakening...it could be a new ride "The Akili Smith/Ryan Leaf Experience".

The funny thing is, I didn't make the dumb pick, and I didn't make the stupid trade of Drew Brees, but I'M the ******* for pointing it out.

tony hipchest
04-07-2006, 09:40 PM
Well, the Giants never had Ben as their pick, nor did the Chargers, that was all team smoke screens...everybody got exactly what they wanted, and it's worked out okay for 2 of the 3 teams so far. However, one team is in for a rude awakening...it could be a new ride "The Akili Smith/Ryan Leaf Experience".

The funny thing is, I didn't make the dumb pick, and I didn't make the stupid trade of Drew Brees, but I'M the ******* for pointing it out. i still dont know what the steelers would have done if d. robinson, d. hall or both had been on the board when they picked. that year (like most years) no one really knew what direction the steelers were leaning but im willing to bet the steelers knew both would be gone. is it just a coincidence ben showed up to draftday in a black suit and golden tie?

its almost as if the steelers told him "youre gonna be there, and were gonna take you".

Livinginthe past
04-07-2006, 09:54 PM
I may well be in a minority here but I think you have to give Rivers a better than average chance of making it in the NFL.

Sure, there are always busts - and the higher the draft pick the bigger the bust.

But I dont think that the mistake he made by holding out in his rookie year should be held against him forever.

I think if Rivers can be adequate then the Chargers have enough talent on both sides of the ball to make the playoffs this year.

NM

tony hipchest
04-07-2006, 10:01 PM
I think if Rivers can be adequate then the Chargers have enough talent on both sides of the ball to make the playoffs this year.

NM

sure, just like last year, although next year it could just as well be at the expense of the patriots in a tie breaker.

SteelerDan43
04-07-2006, 10:03 PM
You gotta give him at least a couple years of starting before you can label him a bust

boLT fan
04-07-2006, 10:05 PM
You gotta give him at least a couple years of starting before you can label him a bust

Thank you! Finally someone actually thinking before they post.

tony hipchest
04-07-2006, 10:11 PM
Thank you! Finally someone actually thinking before they post.
HEY! only steelerfans can talk about litp that way! :sofunny:
(just a joke people)

DIESELMAN
04-07-2006, 10:13 PM
Rivers has got plenty of splinter's in his ass I think he can't wait to take the bull by the horns BUT theres a big difference seeing it from the sidelines and actually being in there where the speed of the game will probably rattle him.Thats the moment where you will see whether he will be a bust or not, there is not to many rookies who can handle that and yes he is still a rookie until he proves otherwise.

SteelerDan43
04-07-2006, 10:13 PM
I can understand the holdout, your not guaranteed anything in this league and he has to think about his family. He seems llke a family first type of guy which makes me hope he does well

Livinginthe past
04-08-2006, 01:37 AM
sure, just like last year, although next year it could just as well be at the expense of the patriots in a tie breaker.

Can't....help...myself...must...mention...the Patriots...in..every...single...thread.....


NM

Ambridge
04-08-2006, 04:30 AM
You gotta give him at least a couple years of starting before you can label him a bust

That's the thing though!! The Chargers with Brees (even coming off an injury) still had a respectable shot for a decent playoff run in the '06 season.
Now they have to wait for an undetermined amount of time for Rivers to develop in order to make a contribution to the team.

IMO defenses will be frothing at the mouth this year to get at and kill Rivers and he's going to get a rude awakening along with the Chargers FO for making such a bone headed decision.

BTW-Who is the Chargers back-up to Rivers.....is it A.J. Feeley??
I bet that's a real comfort.

Suitanim
04-08-2006, 10:12 AM
Thank you! Finally someone actually thinking before they post.

Three years of discussion and thought is not enough, eh?

By the way, there was one guy who thought that Rivers would be the next Dan Fouts...unfortunately, he was also convinced that Drew Henson was the next Tom Brady...

83-Steelers-43
04-08-2006, 10:22 AM
I'm still trying to figure out how somebody can be considered a bust when they haven't even played a full season?

Suitanim
04-08-2006, 10:23 AM
I'm obviously "projecting" him to be a bust. All in all, I could really care less, since the important thing was that we didn't draft him.

83-Steelers-43
04-08-2006, 10:26 AM
I'm obviously "projecting" him to be a bust. All in all, I could really care less, since the important thing was that we didn't draft him.

No, I wasn't meaning you. Projecting him to be a bust and already stating he is a bust are two different issues. One can be debated and other remains to be seen.

SteelCityMan786
04-08-2006, 02:58 PM
:dang: Rivers is gonna be great, he was picked ahead of BIG BEN!!!!! remember?????


Hey BBFW Chargers fans forget Big Ben made it to the AFC Championship Game in his rookie year then won the Super Bowl the next year. I guess the higher pick sometimes doesn't always payoff.

chargerboy
04-19-2006, 02:22 AM
The steelers were lucky to beat us last year so get over your team please

MasterOfPuppets
04-19-2006, 02:55 AM
Thanks, Suit, for completely ignoring the point of this post to make it into your own person Rivers bashing thread. Just like you seem to do every time PR is mentioned.

I like how you know 100% certain he will be a bust before him ever having a good amount on consistant playing time. There is almost nothing on Rivers that can prove him to be a bust unless you think that playing bad in college makes you bad in the NFL (ala Ryan Leaf). I'm not saying he will be a god, but with any information we DO have it would suggest he wouldn't be a bust. Unless you want to make up random bullcrap to make your bust theory seem valid.
hmmmm.....interesting....just a few months ago,you weren't too high on rivers taking over.....remember this???

My Rant

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Ok, since the people at most Chargers boards seem to think that Aj Smith is a genious and all, I can't really get an honest opinion, so maybe I can get it from Steeler fans. Here's what I posted at a Chargers board:


Quote:
Is it just me, or is Aj always looking WAY to far into the future. With the way he handles things, it doesn't really look like the Chargers will ever be fully re-built SB caliber team before Tomlinson retires. Last year we were SO close. So what does Aj do? Refuses to sign one of the biggest peices of the puzzle, Brees. And I really doubt he'll sign a veteren like we need, instead opting to get a ****ing young player that doesn't know what the hell he's doing. Whenver he does get a young player, right when they are FINALLY developed he RELEASES THEM. I know some people call him a genious when it comes to being an owner, but i'm sick of it. GOD DAMNIT AJ

I think we need Marty to stand in his face for a half hour yelling "ONE SEASON AT A TIME, ONE SEASON AT A TIME, ONE SEASON AT A TIME, ONE SEASON AT A TIME..."



Please, tell me i'm not crazy.

so why are you so quick too bash others,for the lack of confidence in rivers,that you had yourself???

Suitanim
04-19-2006, 09:15 AM
The steelers were lucky to beat us last year so get over your team please

That's right, I remember that game. That was the game where the refs let the Chargers have a "do over" punt return. There were several other horrible calls in that game as well against the Steelers, but, being the far superior team, they prevailed regardless of the adversity.

Wasn't that also the game where Tomlinson said that the opposing team had the best run defense he'd ever faced?

I think it was...

83-Steelers-43
04-19-2006, 09:30 AM
The steelers were lucky to beat us last year so get over your team please

Was it "luck" that held Tomilinson to 62 rushing yards? :rolleyes:

So get over it, you lost.

MAN-O-STEEL
04-19-2006, 01:48 PM
hmmmm.....interesting....just a few months ago,you weren't too high on rivers taking over.....remember this???

My Rant

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Ok, since the people at most Chargers boards seem to think that Aj Smith is a genious and all, I can't really get an honest opinion, so maybe I can get it from Steeler fans. Here's what I posted at a Chargers board:


Quote:
Is it just me, or is Aj always looking WAY to far into the future. With the way he handles things, it doesn't really look like the Chargers will ever be fully re-built SB caliber team before Tomlinson retires. Last year we were SO close. So what does Aj do? Refuses to sign one of the biggest peices of the puzzle, Brees. And I really doubt he'll sign a veteren like we need, instead opting to get a ****ing young player that doesn't know what the hell he's doing. Whenver he does get a young player, right when they are FINALLY developed he RELEASES THEM. I know some people call him a genious when it comes to being an owner, but i'm sick of it. GOD DAMNIT AJ

I think we need Marty to stand in his face for a half hour yelling "ONE SEASON AT A TIME, ONE SEASON AT A TIME, ONE SEASON AT A TIME, ONE SEASON AT A TIME..."



Please, tell me i'm not crazy.

so why are you so quick too bash others,for the lack of confidence in rivers,that you had yourself???
MOP THAT'S A HUGE REP POINT FOR PULLING THAT PAST POST OUT!!!!! AWESOME!!!!

Ambridge
04-19-2006, 03:29 PM
The steelers were lucky to beat us last year so get over your team please

You might want to go stock up on plenty of Alka-Seltzer for the sour stomach you're going to have watching the Chargers go into the tank with the "Rivers Experiment".

You might also want to start making your Marty and AJ Smith dolls so you can burn them in effigy halfway through the season.

boLT fan
04-19-2006, 06:45 PM
hmmmm.....interesting....just a few months ago,you weren't too high on rivers taking over.....remember this???

My Rant

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Ok, since the people at most Chargers boards seem to think that Aj Smith is a genious and all, I can't really get an honest opinion, so maybe I can get it from Steeler fans. Here's what I posted at a Chargers board:


Quote:
Is it just me, or is Aj always looking WAY to far into the future. With the way he handles things, it doesn't really look like the Chargers will ever be fully re-built SB caliber team before Tomlinson retires. Last year we were SO close. So what does Aj do? Refuses to sign one of the biggest peices of the puzzle, Brees. And I really doubt he'll sign a veteren like we need, instead opting to get a ****ing young player that doesn't know what the hell he's doing. Whenver he does get a young player, right when they are FINALLY developed he RELEASES THEM. I know some people call him a genious when it comes to being an owner, but i'm sick of it. GOD DAMNIT AJ

I think we need Marty to stand in his face for a half hour yelling "ONE SEASON AT A TIME, ONE SEASON AT A TIME, ONE SEASON AT A TIME, ONE SEASON AT A TIME..."



Please, tell me i'm not crazy.

so why are you so quick too bash others,for the lack of confidence in rivers,that you had yourself???

That was nothing more then a vent after hearing about Brees being gone, mainly about the way Aj Smith treated veterens. And I wasn't "bashing" Suit for having doubts about Rivers. I don't expect him to think Rivers is going to be amazing, he's not a Charger fan and I can understand that. The thing I was saying is that every thread that has the slightest thing about Rivers, Suit is all over it to say how bad a QB he is despite even playing a full single NFL game. THAT is what I was "bashing" him about, this thread was meant as a joke and he felt the need to bash PR.

And about 'chargerboy' he's pretty a Chargers Fan version of 'Tha rock' so please feel free to disregaurd his posts. :dang:

Ambridge
04-19-2006, 06:54 PM
Hey boLT fan!!

I guess you heard that AJ Smith and Marty now have Donnie Edwards targeted as the next veteran to get run out of San Diego.
Edwards is 33 years old and those two masterminds are asking a second round pick in return.

Suitanim
04-19-2006, 07:05 PM
Hey, enjoy your pick...I thought I made it clear that the important thing was that the STEELERS didn't pick him.

Maybe by sitting he can become a servicable NFL QB.

boLT fan
04-19-2006, 07:16 PM
Hey boLT fan!!

I guess you heard that AJ Smith and Marty now have Donnie Edwards targeted as the next veteran to get run out of San Diego.
Edwards is 33 years old and those two masterminds are asking a second round pick in return.

This one has a reason. Edwards has been asking for a raise three years in a row now. Although I do think he deserves it, Aj is letting him see his value for most NFL teams which he'll most likely find is very small. There were reports of him griping in locker rooms occasionally about how he underapreciated, which he is. This is basically the same tactic Aj used on that certain TE that happens to be one of the best in the league. In the end we got Gates for an awesome bargin, as we will probably re-sign Edwards for if his play doesn't keep declining as it has been the past couple years. This is one move I agree on Aj with.