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Whodis
12-27-2010, 07:52 AM
IMO this guy is a mold of Witman and Krieder except he has hands. WTF were they thinking when they left him go.

Anyone that watched the Green Bay game knows what I'm talking about. This guy is a total wild card on offense.

drucifer
12-27-2010, 08:31 AM
Colbert?

finesward
12-27-2010, 08:57 AM
John Kuhn.

I saw this guy live in a preseason game, he wasn't all that back then.

SH-Rock
12-27-2010, 11:00 AM
He's a fullback which is not needed in Arians's offense.

DanRooney
12-27-2010, 11:05 AM
We've got a fullback equivalent named Redman who's every bit as good but rots on the bench no matter how well he plays in favor of this guy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9U_7_XPL8A

USWSteel
12-27-2010, 11:13 AM
I blame John Kuhn, if he looked that good when he was here, he would still be here.

steeltheone
12-27-2010, 11:34 AM
Steelers rarely play young guys....

MACH1
12-27-2010, 12:15 PM
Future hall of famer.

jacksolomon
12-27-2010, 12:43 PM
Seriously?

Whodis
12-27-2010, 12:59 PM
We've got a fullback equivalent named Redman who's every bit as good but rots on the bench no matter how well he plays in favor of this guy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9U_7_XPL8A

There maybe a whole highlight reel of him falling over the line of scrimmage

MDSteel15
12-27-2010, 01:39 PM
He's a fullback which is not needed in Arians's offense.

Because Arians is a Fu@*!NG MORON!!! :banging:

austinfrench76
12-27-2010, 01:56 PM
Does anyone remember the amount of John Kuhn (pronounced K-you-n), threads there were a couple of years ago. People talking like he was the savior??? He was good but we have had guys that can do what he does. Arians just doesn't use them that way. Hell Tank, Dwyer and most noteably Redman could!

MasterOfPuppets
12-27-2010, 02:55 PM
the steelers cut johnny unitas and john kuhn .... i don't know which was the bigger mistake...:doh:

tony hipchest
12-27-2010, 03:41 PM
john kuhn.

the man.

the myth.

the legend.

his awesomness forced dick hoak AND bill cowher into retirement. russ grim was scared of him. ken wienhunt was stumped by his talent. he was kryptonite to bruce arians.

83-steelers-43 and i held a cyber-candle light vigil for the despondent masses on this board when he departed.

i leave you with this-

QIauEsaFjIc


Big John
Big John

Every morning at the mine you could see him arrive
He stood six-foot-six and weighed two-forty-five
Kinda broad at the shoulder and narrow at the hip
Everybody knew you didn't give no lip to Big John

Big John
Big John
Big Bad John
Big John

Nobody seemed to know where John called home
He just drifted into town and stayed all alone
He didn't say much, kinda quiet and shy
If ya spoke at all, ya just said hi to Big John

Somebody said he came from New Orleans
Where he got in a fight o'er a cajun queen
And a crashin' blow from a huge right hand
Sent a Lousianna fella to the promised land, Big John

Big John
Big John
Big Bad John
Big John

Then came the day at the bottom of the mine
When a timber cracked and men started cryin'
Miners were prayin' and hearts beat fast
And everybody thought they'd breathed their last, 'cept John

Through the dust and the smoke of this man-made hell
Walked a giant of a man that the miners knew well
Grabbed the saggin' timber and gave out with a groan
And like a giant oak tree, just stood there alone, Big John

Big John
Big John
Big Bad John
Big John

And with all of his strength he gave a mighty shove
Then a miner yelled out, there's a light up above
And twenty men scrambled from a would-be grave
now there's only one left down there to save, Big John

With jacks and timbers they started back down
Then came that rumble way down in the ground
As smoke and gas belched outta the mine
Everybody knew it was the end of the line for Big John

Big John
Big John
Big Bad John
Big John

Now, they never re-opened that worthless pit
They just placed a marble stand in front of it
These few words are written on that stand,

At the bottom of this mine lies one Hell of a man, Big John

Big John
Big John
Big Bad John
Big John
Big John
Big Bad John
Big John

Atlanta Dan
12-27-2010, 05:17 PM
Because I blame Bruce Arians for global warming and the federal government's deficit I have no choice but to blame Arians for Kuhn being released

Whodis
12-27-2010, 05:46 PM
I'd have to say redman is about the closest thing to a fullback we have.

It's safe to say we will continue to use Moore until Arians is relieved of whatever it is he does.

wootawnee
12-27-2010, 06:22 PM
It's because he was a Big Hick(country boy)........Tomlin Liked Carey Davis.......He didnt like Kuhn or Krieder cause they were hicks.........

MDSteel15
12-27-2010, 06:24 PM
It's because he was a Big Hick(country boy)........Tomlin Liked Carey Davis.......He didnt like Kuhn or Krieder cause they were hicks.........

So we got stuck with a talentless idiot.... :doh:

Fire Haley
12-27-2010, 09:29 PM
I blame FG Bill.

He cut Vrable too.....and Bironas.

MasterOfPuppets
12-27-2010, 09:51 PM
I blame FG Bill.

He cut Vrable too.....and Bironas.
At the end of Vrabel's tenure with the Steelers, it had mostly been an issue with the numbers game at linebacker, as the Steelers had veterans Jason Gildon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Gildon) and Earl Holmes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Holmes) firmly in as the starters as well as the emergence of Joey Porter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joey_Porter) at the position. Before leaving for New England, Steelers head coach Bill Cowher (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Cowher) told Vrabel that while he believed Vrabel would be a starter in the NFL, he wouldn't be a starter with the Steelers. Vrabel has since credited Cowher for his decision not to retire and sign with the Patriots.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Vrabel

ricardisimo
12-27-2010, 10:20 PM
Obama.

silver & black
12-28-2010, 10:49 AM
the steelers cut johnny unitas and john kuhn .... i don't know which was the bigger mistake...:doh:

I do. :wink02:

SH-Rock
12-28-2010, 12:32 PM
If we had Unitas then we would've been a passing team instead of ground and pound team. I personally prefer the latter.

silver & black
12-28-2010, 01:59 PM
If we had Unitas then we would've been a passing team instead of ground and pound team. I personally prefer the latter.

As I recall, the Steelers weren't very good in the 50's - 60's. I think Johnny U may have changed that a little. Nothing says the Steelers would be a predominantly passing team now, had Unitas remained a Steeler.

SH-Rock
12-28-2010, 02:03 PM
As I recall, the Steelers weren't very good in the 50's - 60's. I think Johnny U may have changed that a little. Nothing says the Steelers would be a predominantly passing team now, had Unitas remained a Steeler.

If Unitas was drafted and we played well, then the team would revolve around him. More receivers drafted. Also then we would get higher draft picks thus means no Joe Greene. We probably would've had a different head coach, other than Chuck Noll. Someone more offensively minded. We might still have won 4 superbowls, but not the way I would've hoped.

silver & black
12-28-2010, 02:22 PM
If Unitas was drafted and we played well, then the team would revolve around him. More receivers drafted. Also then we would get higher draft picks thus means no Joe Greene. We probably would've had a different head coach, other than Chuck Noll. Someone more offensively minded. We might still have won 4 superbowls, but not the way I would've hoped.

These are things we will never know. :wink02:

Steeler-Stamina
12-28-2010, 02:39 PM
A fullback is not essential.

jizzballz
12-28-2010, 02:46 PM
really just because he scored 2 touchdowns against a shitty giants team....

omg some people are so retarded here its un****ingbelieveable

MattsMe
12-28-2010, 03:41 PM
I blame bin laden.

PhantomJB93
12-28-2010, 04:00 PM
Had Unitas remained a Steeler, we likely would have seen enough success that we never would have drafted Bradshaw, Greene, etc., lkely would have remained a "good but not amazing" team for decades, and likely never would have won 4 Super Bowls and become a dynasty. :coffee:

Anyways, Kuhn is good but he obviously wasn't as good as he is now when he was with us, and I don't think he is "amazing" enough that I really, truly regret cutting him.

LVSteelersfan
12-28-2010, 05:14 PM
He is certainly better than Carey Davis ever thought of being. It made me so mad when they kept bringing that useless player back. I still have hope for the "Tank" but he may not be what the Steelers need as he doesn't seem to have a nose for knocking LBs down.

wootawnee
12-28-2010, 06:50 PM
He is certainly better than Carey Davis ever thought of being. It made me so mad when they kept bringing that useless player back. I still have hope for the "Tank" but he may not be what the Steelers need as he doesn't seem to have a nose for knocking LBs down.

Yep.....You gotta have the hardest nose on the field to knock down Ray Lewis........I don't think Tank's nose is all that hard........

ricardisimo
12-28-2010, 08:08 PM
I blame bin laden.
How wrong can you be, Matt? Osama bin Laden is simply reacting to pressures that he and his people (or "peeps") are feeling from the over-reach of the US Empire in his region. He would never have caused the Rooneys to cut John Kuhn if we would have left the Middle East alone. Anyone who can't see that is nothing but a douchebag troll and a willing or unwilling tool of our capitalist overlords.

fer522
12-28-2010, 08:11 PM
I blame the f***in beer man:chuckle::chuckle::chuckle:

MattsMe
12-28-2010, 08:38 PM
How wrong can you be, Matt? Osama bin Laden is simply reacting to pressures that he and his people (or "peeps") are feeling from the over-reach of the US Empire in his region. He would never have caused the Rooneys to cut John Kuhn if we would have left the Middle East alone. Anyone who can't see that is nothing but a douchebag troll and a willing or unwilling tool of our capitalist overlords.

You make a good point. Perhaps my blame is misplaced.

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lionslicer
12-28-2010, 09:42 PM
Arians obviously... Kuhn wasn't great when he was here, buttt, Arians doesn't know how to coach a fullback correctly, and as a young guy he didn't stand a chance at becoming the fullback he could have been.

uclkyle
12-29-2010, 02:16 AM
Honestly, there is no room in the backfield for Kuhn. he's a decent role player. Moore brings more on third down, Isaac is our bruiser, and Mendy is, of course, the starter. Many people think Dwyer will be very good.....the guy can't even dress. Even if you bring him back today, he still doesn't see the field and is probably the fourth guy out.

harts
12-30-2010, 03:07 AM
Kuhn is no big loss
so what if he scores TD's for the Pack
He runs a 5 second 40
Too slow for the Steelers O
Who is the Steeler fullback again?

We are doing just fine without him just like we are doing fine without Cowher who is doing a wonderful job on CBS

MikeHaullace
12-30-2010, 03:33 AM
You make a good point. Perhaps my blame is misplaced.

NwrL9MV6jSk

Came for this.

Leaving satisfied.

A+++ - Would read again.

MasterOfPuppets
12-30-2010, 01:50 PM
FB Kuhn nearing folk hero status in Green Bay


GREEN BAY, Wis. (AP)—Coaches and teammates have had some good-natured fun at John Kuhn’s (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7695/)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7695/news) expense all season, joking that he’s always lobbying for carries by reminding people that he was the career rushing leader at Division II Shippensburg.
The unheralded fullback is laughing all the way to the end zone these days. Kuhn rushed for two touchdowns and caught another in the Green Bay Packers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/gnb/)’ blowout victory over the New York Giants (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/nyg/) on Sunday.
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His ability to get tough yards, especially near the goal line, has put him on the track to folk hero status in Green Bay. Fans at Lambeau Field growl “Kuuuuuuhn!” every time he touches the ball.
“It sounds like they’re booing him, but they’re saying ‘Kuhn,”’ special teams coordinator Shawn Slocum said.
Kuhn isn’t letting his newfound notoriety go to his head, but his friends and family are enjoying it.
“They’re excited about it,” Kuhn said. “(Fans) kind of did it a little bit in college, too. So my family’s a little used to it.”
Slightly bigger venue this time around, though?
“Yeah - a lot bigger,” Kuhn said, laughing.
Kuhn began his career on the Pittsburgh Steelers (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/pit/)’ practice squad in 2005 and joined the Packers in 2007. Coming into this season, Kuhn had only 18 career rushing attempts - although he already showed an ability to score, running for two touchdowns and catching four more in the previous two seasons.
But after a season-ending injury to Ryan Grant (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7635/)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7635/news) in Week 1, Kuhn steadily has worked his way into the Packers’ running back rotation. Going into Sunday’s critical game against Chicago with the playoffs on the line, Packers coach Mike McCarthy said Kuhn has become one of the team’s leaders.
“I think he’s making the push like everybody else on our football team,” McCarthy said. “He’s one of our leaders. He’s a tough guy and well-respected in the locker room, and he’s really stepped to the forefront.”
Nobody will mistake Kuhn for a feature back; he hasn’t rushed for more than 50 yards in a game. But he seems to be at his best near the goal line; he has six touchdowns this season, four rushing and two receiving.
And as if that wasn’t enough to feed Kuhn’s growing popularity in Green Bay, he also is a key player on special teams. He earned not one, but two, game balls from the coaching staff for his efforts Sunday - one on offense and one on special teams.
Slocum said Kuhn was in on four special teams tackles and made a critical block after a teammate blew an assignment on a punt.
“I think it speaks about what he’s all about,” Slocum said. “I mean, he’s impactful on offense, playing quite a few plays in there. And then to go out and play on just about everything we’re doing special teams-wise, he plays very hard and (is) very productive.”
Not bad for a guy who didn’t really consider a future in pro football until his junior year at Shippensburg, a school with an undergraduate enrollment of about 7,200 in Shippensburg, Pa. A chemistry major, Kuhn probably would have gone back for a postgraduate degree if he didn’t have a shot at the NFL.
“My coach told me that he thought I could make the jump, and I kind of even batted an eye at that, like, ‘Oh, you’re crazy. This is Shippensburg,”’ Kuhn said. “But at the end of the year, I talked to a couple people that knew a couple people and they said, you know, you might have a shot.”
He left Shippensburg as the leading rusher in school history with a total of 4,685 yards.
“A lot of teams liked my size and liked my agility coming out of college because I ran the ball a lot,” Kuhn said. “But they all said basically, ‘You’re going to have to learn how to block in the NFL.’ I tried to take that and do the best I could at it.”
He did, but Packers coaches eventually realized he could be a valuable asset near the goal line. When the Packers’ marquee receivers are covered, Kuhn sometimes slips through the cracks.
“When we have a red zone meeting, we don’t sit there and talk about John Kuhn, but I think our fans think we do. I’m a little nervous about that,” McCarthy said. “He’s put together two outstanding football games. John is one of the veteran leaders on our team. He’s a tough guy, he’s a detailed guy, he’s a smart guy. He knows what to do when you put him in position to be successful.”
Kuhn attributes his success to hard work, but acknowledges that his skills might have gone overlooked until now.
“Everybody in the NFL has skill,” Kuhn said. “I heard LaDainian Tomlinson (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5452/)(notes) (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5452/news) one time give a quote that 98 percent of the guys in the NFL could be a star if they just got the chance. And I always thought that was pretty interesting, because I was on the practice squad at the time when I heard that. That was always something that I looked toward for motivation.”

ricardisimo
12-30-2010, 02:48 PM
MoP, that article doesn't mention Obama, bin Laden or the Middle East even once. What kind of lame journalistic sources do you rely on?

jizzballz
12-31-2010, 03:30 PM
MoP, that article doesn't mention Obama, bin Laden or the Middle East even once. What kind of lame journalistic sources do you rely on?

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stb_steeler
12-31-2010, 03:48 PM
Kuhn fit in with our style of football. Now hes doin great in Greenbay!

mesaSteeler
12-31-2010, 05:19 PM
A fullback is not essential.

Well this must be posted by the Airhead Arians himself. How nice of you to drop by to find out how much you are truly despised. After all we still remember your brilliantly insightful comment about how you would never have a full back in your offense.

After this next game please stay behind in Clown-town with the rest of losers. You will feel right at home there. I promise you will not be missed at all in the burgh. If fact I'm sure we could take up a collection here to help you stay there if you promise never to return.