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USWSteel
12-27-2010, 06:16 PM
Posted by Mike Florio on December 27, 2010, 5:41 PM EST

In July 2009, a Nevada woman sued Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, alleging that he sexually assaulted her in a Lake Tahoe hotel room.

More than 17 months later, the case has barely moved off the starting line.

As explained by Cy Ryan of the Las Vegas Sun, the case currently sits before the Nevada Supreme Court on a threshold procedural motion focusing on whether the case should proceed in Washoe County, where it was filed, or in Douglas County, where the assault allegedly occurred. The courthouses are roughly 45 miles apart.

Decisions regarding the location in which a lawsuit will be filed potentially impact any given legal action, based on the reputations of the judges and the jury awards generated in past cases. Also, the fact that the Harrah’s hotel and casino where the plaintiff was employed and where Roethlisberger was staying employs a significant number of Douglas County residents could make the jury pool less inclined to rule against the company.

Regardless of the reason(s), the plaintiff’s lawyer perceives Washoe County to be a more favorable forum and the lawyers representing the defendants believe that Douglas County gives them a better chance of success. The issue wouldn’t currently be pending before the Nevada Supreme Court if both sides didn’t feel strongly about their respective positions.

Once the Nevada Supreme Court issues a ruling, the case finally will proceed, presumably with a deposition of the plaintiff and, eventually, a deposition of Roethlisberger. E-mails published in the weeks after the filing of the case tend to undermine the plaintiff’s position, since they suggested that she willingly engaged in sexual activities with Roethlisberger. She nevertheless contends that she was raped after Roethlisberger lured her to his room by claiming that his television needed to be fixed. Absent a settlement, there’s a good chance Roethlisberg eventually will have to defend himself at a trial in open court, and that he could face evidence relating to the incident that occurred in Georgia earlier this year.

Though Roethlisberger never has been charged with a crime, the NFL suspended him four games for violating the league’s Personal Conduct Policy.

USWSteel
12-27-2010, 06:24 PM
I really hope at some point we actually get to hear both sides of the story here. I think it's about time to hear Ben actually talk about what happened instead of him saying no comment and hiding behind that. He wont be able to do that in court if he wants to win this case. It looks like another off season of not so good new for the Steelers...thanks to Ben.

MDSteel15
12-27-2010, 06:27 PM
The woman is a total flake!!! She told her co-workers she was quiting because she was having Ben's flipping love child!

steeldad775
12-27-2010, 06:27 PM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/12/27/sexual-assault-lawsuit-against-roethlisberger-still-lingers-in-nevada-court-system/

I was under the assumption that the girlfriend of this woman had outed her and said she lied about the entire affair?

mesaSteeler
12-27-2010, 06:31 PM
Trust the Steeler hating turd Florio to stir the pot at the end of the season and right before the playoffs just to try and distract the Steelers. This why I rarely even visit his website.

jacksolomon
12-27-2010, 06:36 PM
It looks like another off season of not so good new for the Steelers...thanks to Ben.

Based on what? There is a sworn statement on file from one of McNulty's ex-coworkers affirming that she bragged about sleeping with him at one point. Couple that with the fact that she never went to the police at any point, waited until a year after the alleged sexual assault to file a civil suit, and that she has, to put it mildly, a colorful imagination, and you have a giant golddigging charade that should have been thrown out of court at least a year ago.

USWSteel
12-27-2010, 06:43 PM
Based on what? There is a sworn statement on file from one of McNulty's ex-coworkers affirming that she bragged about sleeping with him at one point. Couple that with the fact that she never went to the police at any point, waited until a year after the alleged sexual assault to file a civil suit, and that she has, to put it mildly, a colorful imagination, and you have a giant golddigging charade that should have been thrown out of court at least a year ago.

Thanks to an almost yearly off season ritual of Ben providing some kind of negative press for himself or the Steelers ! Have you been in a cave since he has been playing here ? What good off season press about Ben can you remember ?

jacksolomon
12-27-2010, 06:48 PM
Thanks to an almost yearly off season ritual of Ben providing some kind of negative press for himself or the Steelers ! Have you been in a cave since he has been playing here ? What good off season press about Ben can you remember ?

The kind of stuff that never gets paid attention to. Like this, for instance: http://www.whiotv.com/news/19200707/detail.html

Between his motorcycle accident in '06 and the Summer of 2009 when the McNulty case was brought to light, I don't remember hearing much of anything either way during the offseason about him. "Almost yearly" is a bit of an exaggeration.

MDSteel15
12-27-2010, 06:48 PM
Thanks to an almost yearly off season ritual of Ben providing some kind of negative press for himself or the Steelers ! Have you been in a cave since he has been playing here ? What good off season press about Ben can you remember ?

Has he ever been charged? arrested? or taken in for litigation? Then who cares what some gold digging psychopath said?

USWSteel
12-27-2010, 06:56 PM
Has he ever been charged? arrested? or taken in for litigation? Then who cares what some gold digging psychopath said?

The courts havent thrown it out, so I guess thats all that matters. I'm sick of people in the spotlight hiding behind the no comment B.S. ! Some people cant get enough of the spotlight and then when theres some heat put on them they go in hiding !

caseyviator
12-28-2010, 01:22 PM
NO COMMENT BS TOO FUNNY SO U PAY LAWYERS ALL THIS MONEY AND THEY TELL u to say no comment..then just because sum guy on the steelers board says he should say sumthin he should???? bllllllwwlwlwahhahahhha too f-in funny blllallwllwwhahahha

UF-Steeler
12-28-2010, 01:52 PM
Also, Ben says no comment because it is his right and I am sure his high priced lawyer told him to say it. It's always better to say nothing in this situation. I'm sure if he didn't have good representation he would end up saying something dumb and getting himself in more trouble.

Riddle_Of_Steel
12-28-2010, 02:43 PM
He has been saying no comment because anything he says regarding the case, becomes public record and evidence in court. He is likely working under the advice of his legal team; it's the more conservative approach. If he is going to court, we'll find out the truth-- our legal system is good at solving these ones.

If McNulty was bragging about the encounter, and also read elsewhere that she snatched up Ben's contact info from the Harrah's customer database (which is in violation of some privacy something-or-other), to try and arrange an "accidental run-in" with him in PIttsburgh to see if he would marry her. She thought she was carrying a Ben love-child at the time.

His lawyers also have the classic Erin Brockavitch approach (attack plaintiff's character). One of her former trainers is the one that provided her incriminating, bragging emails into evidence. She talks in one statement about how this McNulty is of seeming "promiscuous attitude"-- having needing to be talked to about her revealing clothes/work attire on more than one occaision. Maybe she is being paid off by Harrah's or Ben's lawyer, or maybe not-- she said she did not want to see an innocent man get charged with something like this and felt compelled to come forward with this info and the emails.

There is a lot of info out there on both cases. Unfortunately, most of it comes from sources like TMZ and whatnot. The Post Gazette however, posted all the evidence package from the devil went down to Georgia case as well. That one is a whole lot less convincing when you read the whole package too.

Could be a good thing if the truth is finally brought to light. Or maybe not-- I will be very interested to see what comes up. If he comes up looking guilty, there is no way I am giving props to a rapist. Then he can get the hell off my team.

But until then, I think Ben is doing good. I tend to think he isn't guilty of anything malicious, or the team wouldn't warm up to him at all, even with all the "reformed" talk. For the msot part, the Rooney's run a pretty clean lockerroom as I understand it, and most of the guys on the team are of descent character (and wouldn't support a rapist, even a former friend or coworker).

It's all circumstantial, I know, but that's all we have for now. I think though, if the truth weer to come out, it might be embarassing for Ben (in that he was behaving like a typical 20-something guy out drunk), but will be a good thing, because it might finally clear his name. He didn't rape anybody, that's my opinion as of right now until shown otherwise. I mean, the chick in Georgia and her friends, they followed him from two other bars like lost puppy dogs. They were even pinching him on the arm the whole night as he was originally trying to ignore their advances.

He is guilty of going out and engaging in some of the same drunk drama that any of us did at the bar or club on a Friday/Sat on any given weekend during our twenties, guys and gals. He is famous, so his foibles end up making news, whereas we just get our buddies/homegirls busting our asses for our drunken starlett with one of the local barflies the night b4 (that we might not even remember-- those classic, "ewwww, get a hotel, you two!!!" moments). He needs to find him a nice semi-celebrity girlfriend (like that German WPGA chick) who has no reason to sue him and settle down and get married like Drew Brees, Tom Brady, and the other guys out there.

plenewken
12-28-2010, 03:57 PM
She could be a nutcase but I don't believe the gold digger side of her. Her lawyers offered a settlement last year that Ben and his lawyers rejected. The money was to be paid to a charity, not to her and they were not millions but a hundred thousand bucks.

http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/09/09/ben-roethlisbergers-accuser-offers-settlement-demands-apology/

fat4jc
12-28-2010, 04:20 PM
Settlement = admission of guilt in the eyes of the public. Do you want Ben to clear his name, or look like more of a sleezeball by appearing to pay someone off?

plenewken
12-28-2010, 04:28 PM
Settlement = admission of guilt in the eyes of the public. Do you want Ben to clear his name, or look like more of a sleezeball by appearing to pay someone off?

I was responding to the posters accusing Ms McNulty of being a gold digger.
Ben has already lost a lot of credibility in the eyes of the public so accepting a settlement wouldn't make much difference on this aspect. He'll have more to lose in Court where he'll have to answer all questions and everything will be scrutinized, including the second incident in GA.
Just a small minority in the public believes that Ben is completely innocent in both cases. Not guilty is one thing, but completely innocent is another.
Maybe he didn't assault her and it was consensual sex but bottom line is he has a knack for putting himself in trouble with wacky broads.

jacksolomon
12-28-2010, 04:33 PM
She could be a nutcase but I don't believe the gold digger side of her. Her lawyers offered a settlement last year that Ben and his lawyers rejected. The money was to be paid to a charity, not to her and they were not millions but a hundred thousand bucks.

http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2009/09/09/ben-roethlisbergers-accuser-offers-settlement-demands-apology/

I wonder why her initial suit for $400K didn't include the charity? To me, that settlement offer is nothing more than an attempt to save face when Ben refused to simply pay the $400K to make the case "go away."

steelerchad
12-28-2010, 04:41 PM
I wonder why her initial suit for $400K didn't include the charity? To me, that settlement offer is nothing more than an attempt to save face when Ben refused to simply pay the $400K to make the case "go away."

That's exactly what I thought. She had been made to look pretty bad and I think this was an effort to intentionally not look like a gold digger and a nut case.

kirklandrules
12-28-2010, 04:59 PM
The courts havent thrown it out, so I guess thats all that matters. I'm sick of people in the spotlight hiding behind the no comment B.S. ! Some people cant get enough of the spotlight and then when theres some heat put on them they go in hiding !

So you want him to say something like: "Yeah, I banged her like a screen door. I was trashed and she looked ****ty. When I was finished she droned on and on about what "we" were going to do over the coming months, so I threw her used carcass out just to sleep off the alcohol. What's a pro athlete supposed to do? Now she's suing me."

I'm sure that will help him through a lawsuit. :thumbsup:

Oh, BTW, Ben has been known for avoiding the press so I wouldn't couple him in the group of people looking for the spotlight until something negative comes up.

Deserei90
12-28-2010, 05:47 PM
That's exactly what I thought. She had been made to look pretty bad and I think this was an effort to intentionally not look like a gold digger and a nut case.She already looks bad. LOL You expect me to believe ben would want her? SMH. This woman is and always will be nutz. Anytime you tell someone, your having his "Child" There's something mentally wrong with you . I hope this thing gets dropped soon. it's so pointless.

plenewken
12-28-2010, 05:56 PM
That's exactly what I thought. She had been made to look pretty bad and I think this was an effort to intentionally not look like a gold digger and a nut case.

Regardless of her ultimate motives, they both will be in Court one day and I don't know who, between her and Ben has more to lose.
Ben's suspension for violating the NFL personal conduct policy is not gonna help him in the NV case. I'm just sayin'

TRH
12-28-2010, 09:57 PM
That's exactly what I thought. She had been made to look pretty bad and I think this was an effort to intentionally not look like a gold digger and a nut case.



This whole thing is potentially a really scary situation for anyone in the game (or anyone at all for that matter...)
If you happen to cross paths with some nutcase-crazy, loose cannon, they can completely drag you and your name through the mud. For attention, for notoriety, for money, whatever...
It could happen to you and me too.

BigRick
12-28-2010, 11:26 PM
Has he ever been charged? arrested? or taken in for litigation? Then who cares what some gold digging psychopath said?

Unfortunately in this country guilt or inocence plays little part in a civil suit. Just look at O.J. even though the courts found him inocent (personally I think he was guilty as hell) he was still sued for wrongful death in a civil suit. :tt02:

SteelersinCA
12-28-2010, 11:35 PM
Unfortunately in this country guilt or inocence plays little part in a civil suit. Just look at O.J. even though the courts found him inocent (personally I think he was guilty as hell) he was still sued for wrongful death in a civil suit. :tt02:

There is no such thing as guilt or innocence in a civil suit, might be why it plays such a little part. #just saying.

SteelersinCA
12-28-2010, 11:36 PM
How is this even news?

BigRick
12-28-2010, 11:49 PM
There is no such thing as guilt or innocence in a civil suit, might be why it plays such a little part. #just saying.

The point I was trying to at is that under our legal system is doesn't matter if you did it or not you can always find some scumbag lawyer to file a civil suit. :tt02:

USWSteel
12-29-2010, 10:59 AM
This whole thing is potentially a really scary situation for anyone in the game (or anyone at all for that matter...)
If you happen to cross paths with some nutcase-crazy, loose cannon, they can completely drag you and your name through the mud. For attention, for notoriety, for money, whatever...
It could happen to you and me too.

It sure can... IF YOUR CAUGHT HAVING SEX IN PUBLIC BATHROOMS !!!! If your a decent person maybe you would you get a hotel room or back to your house to do those things. If not you get what you have coming. :tt04:

grward
12-29-2010, 11:18 AM
It sure can... IF YOUR CAUGHT HAVING SEX IN PUBLIC BATHROOMS !!!! If your a decent person maybe you would you get a hotel room or back to your house to do those things. If not you get what you have coming. :tt04:

Dude, is Ben trying to date your daughter or something? You weren't there but you want justice or an explanation or whatever it is you seem to want so much? Ben owes you nothing. If you don't like that he's the quarterback of your favorite team then quit watching. Seriously, you're sounding more like the nutcase the McNutty chick is!

USWSteel
12-29-2010, 11:34 AM
Dude, is Ben trying to date your daughter or something? You weren't there but you want justice or an explanation or whatever it is you seem to want so much? Ben owes you nothing. If you don't like that he's the quarterback of your favorite team then quit watching. Seriously, you're sounding more like the nutcase the McNutty chick is!

DUDE, I dont have kids. Second this poster is making it like you cant leave your house without someone accusing you of a crime or suing you ! !! Gimme a break, Ben at the very least was having sex in a public bathroom ...right ? Yes. If you as NFL Qb wanna put yourself in that type of situation then you can expect that this kinda thing may happen to you. You pick up some strange in a college bar and have sex in a bathroom, you have no idea what type of person your dealing with. So in my book thats the risk you take. Whats makes that so crazy ?

Why dont you let Mike Vick walk your dogs .... Or maybe Ron Mexico date your daughter.

SteelersinCA
12-29-2010, 11:43 AM
The point I was trying to at is that under our legal system is doesn't matter if you did it or not you can always find some scumbag lawyer to file a civil suit. :tt02:

I'm curious, do you believe in our legal system? If you do then you shouldn't be so quick to defend someone just because he qb's your favorite football team. What if there is some merit to her claim? What you are supposed to do is not rush to judgement and hear the facts and then make a decision.

You've already decided she's a liar simply because she accused a steeler. That's more a perversion of justice than any scum bag lawyer could do.

plenewken
12-29-2010, 12:31 PM
The point I was trying to at is that under our legal system is doesn't matter if you did it or not you can always find some scumbag lawyer to file a civil suit. :tt02:

I'll ask you 1 simple question: how come other single PGH sports celebrities, don't face lawsuits for sexual harassment? Have you heard of Crosby, Malkin, Staal or Fleury being sued? Not me. What about top Steelers draftees since 2004? I haven't heard anything either.

Even Ben admitted he had sex with Ms McNulty and he added that sex was consensual. Obviously, she has a completely different opinion. That's the whole point of contention.

Ms McNulty was working at Harrah's as VIP Exec. She was not some trash hanging out in bars at night. The alleged assault occurred at her workplace.

Twice in 18 months, Ben has been accused of forcing himself on women. Who believes that these 2 women invented the whole thing? Not me.
What saved Ben's @ss so far is that the one in GA was too drunk to be completely credible in her accusations, big difference. I also believe Ben had some kind of sex with her. As a matter of fact, the DA in GA was pretty clear (and harsh) in his statement. He said he didn't have enough evidence to prosecute Ben. He didn't say there's zero evidence.

Bottom line is, can't Ben have steady GFs like everyone else, instead of hitting on random drunk women in hotels and bars? What's the f*ck is his problem? The guy was a creep, no ifs, ands or buts. Maybe he's learned from his mistakes and I hope he did but this doesn't make his less responsible for what he did in the past.

He's paid for his behavior vis a vis the NFL but he still has to face the consequences of his acts with one of the 2 women involved. That's not unexpected.

TRH
12-29-2010, 03:45 PM
Bottom line is, can't Ben have steady GFs like everyone else, instead of hitting on random drunk women in hotels and bars? What's the f*ck is his problem? The guy was a creep, no ifs, ands or buts. Maybe he's learned from his mistakes and I hope he did but this doesn't make his less responsible for what he did in the past.

He's paid for his behavior vis a vis the NFL but he still has to face the consequences of his acts with one of the 2 women involved. That's not unexpected.[/QUOTE]


Do you have evidence that Ben is out hitting on "random drunk women?". Other NFL players "hook up" too and do it all the time in bars, but all it takes is some attention-wanting, crazy to drag your name through the mud. It could easily happen to any of us.
If you were there with the crowd, then you can say he was a creep "no if, ands, and buts"...but you weren't there...and neither was i. He could have been a creep....He also could have been unfairly targeted too.
Once some nutcase has accused you of something somewhere, the attention-wanters are all out there on high-alert, thus Ben becomes a big target.
The only thing i think Ben should have done different is after the 1st incident that quite possibly might not even have any truth to it, is to stay out of bars, especially college ones, in case something like that happened again.

BigRick
12-29-2010, 04:59 PM
I'm curious, do you believe in our legal system? If you do then you shouldn't be so quick to defend someone just because he qb's your favorite football team. What if there is some merit to her claim? What you are supposed to do is not rush to judgement and hear the facts and then make a decision.

You've already decided she's a liar simply because she accused a steeler. That's more a perversion of justice than any scum bag lawyer could do.

I haven'y decided anything maybe he is guilty. All I'm saying is that under our legal system anybody can sue you for anything. All you need is a lawyer willing to file suit. And no I don't believe in our sytem of justice as it exists today, it's totally out of whack! :tt03:

plenewken
12-29-2010, 05:15 PM
Do you have evidence that Ben is out hitting on "random drunk women?". Other NFL players "hook up" too and do it all the time in bars, but all it takes is some attention-wanting, crazy to drag your name through the mud. It could easily happen to any of us.
If you were there with the crowd, then you can say he was a creep "no if, ands, and buts"...but you weren't there...and neither was i. He could have been a creep....He also could have been unfairly targeted too.
Once some nutcase has accused you of something somewhere, the attention-wanters are all out there on high-alert, thus Ben becomes a big target.
The only thing i think Ben should have done different is after the 1st incident that quite possibly might not even have any truth to it, is to stay out of bars, especially college ones, in case something like that happened again.

I didn't say Ben is the only pea brain in the NFL hitting on random drunk broads but 2 wrongs don't make 1 right.
Believe what you want and like I said, let me know when Crosby makes the headlines for similar incidents.

TRH
12-29-2010, 05:17 PM
I hear ya....but i'm not even sure "2 wrongs" were committed. Very good chance they weren't...

SteelersinCA
12-29-2010, 05:29 PM
I haven'y decided anything maybe he is guilty. All I'm saying is that under our legal system anybody can sue you for anything. All you need is a lawyer willing to file suit. And no I don't believe in our sytem of justice as it exists today, it's totally out of whack! :tt03:

It's not like she's suing him for nothing. He admitted they had sex. She views it as non consensual. I wouldn't classify that as suing him over nothing. For instance, say a girl agrees to have sex with you and you decide while you're performing a sexual position that involves her being bent over and you approaching her from behind you decide to stick your thumb in her butt and she does not consent; guess what you just did, rape her. Look at the definition of rape and tell me you didn't.

Remember Kobe?

While we may think you can be sued for anything, and maybe you can, this is not one of those cases.

TRH
12-29-2010, 05:36 PM
It's not like she's suing him for nothing. He admitted they had sex. She views it as non consensual. I wouldn't classify that as suing him over nothing. For instance, say a girl agrees to have sex with you and you decide while you're performing a sexual position that involves her being bent over and you approaching her from behind you decide to stick your thumb in her butt and she does not consent; guess what you just did, rape her. Look at the definition of rape and tell me you didn't.

Remember Kobe?

While we may think you can be sued for anything, and maybe you can, this is not one of those cases.


Thats a good way of putting things. I just think too many people, some hometown "fans" as well, are portraying him as some brutal, bullying rapist who's slamming girls down and its just not true.

plenewken
12-29-2010, 05:48 PM
Thats a good way of putting things. I just think too many people, some hometown "fans" as well, are portraying him as some brutal, bullying rapist who's slamming girls down and its just not true.

"Hey bitches, take my shots!".

BigRick
12-29-2010, 06:55 PM
It's not like she's suing him for nothing. He admitted they had sex. She views it as non consensual. I wouldn't classify that as suing him over nothing. For instance, say a girl agrees to have sex with you and you decide while you're performing a sexual position that involves her being bent over and you approaching her from behind you decide to stick your thumb in her butt and she does not consent; guess what you just did, rape her. Look at the definition of rape and tell me you didn't.

Remember Kobe?

While we may think you can be sued for anything, and maybe you can, this is not one of those cases.

How do you know were you there? . :rofl:

USWSteel
12-29-2010, 06:56 PM
Thats a good way of putting things. I just think too many people, some hometown "fans" as well, are portraying him as some brutal, bullying rapist who's slamming girls down and its just not true.


How do you know it's not true ? That's how it very well may have happened. Oh I see because he's Big Ben the Steeler it's not true right ? Listen we don't know, but I'm not ready to say that both of these girls are nut cases either like you have made it seem.
This is one reason I would really like to see this play out in court. If Ben has nothing to hide he should have no problem taking the stand and telling his side of the story. Until then I cant help believe the way things have played out so far that he is the one hiding something .