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wutchy
01-07-2011, 04:21 PM
I was thinking about the sorry condition of the steelers offensive line last night.
Adams probably won't be back next year, his best days are behind him. Left tackle is shaky too. Right guard can be fixed, and left guard and center is okay.
I think the steelers have to beef up the right guard spot and both tackle spots.

With that in mind, I took a peek at the OL talent in this years draft. And i looked at free agent OL. Even though this draft class is loaded with talent, Espaecially on defense, i didn't see a whole lot of good OL out there.

SOme of the mock drafts have the steelers selecting Pounceys twin brother in the first round. I'd like to see them get him, but not with their first pick. We should be able to get a real beast DL with the first pick, and hopefully Pounceys brother with the number two.

Free agency may not be the way to go because an OL needs time to gel. Why not use that "time" to develop a young guy?

This off season, the steelers are going to need to find two tackles, a right guard, and a couple beasts on the DL. Thats a big order to fill.

Either way, I hope we can get Pounceys brother at Florida in the second round. That would take care of the right guard thing.

But where ya gonna get two good OT's and two good DL.?

Who would you like to see the steelers get via free agency to fill the holes on the lines?

sarahpalinhater
01-07-2011, 04:24 PM
I went out of my way to watch 6 Florida games this season. And Mike is good, but he is NOT Top-Guard in this draft. He will go mid-2nd round at best. Probably lower 2nd or early 3rd round. I also saw those early Mocks. And most were just placing Mike as a Steeler first rounder JUST because we drafted his Brother. But the better college and draft scouts I have heard have said barring a GREAT Off-season workout,,,Mike Pouncey is NOT a 1st rounder.

wutchy
01-07-2011, 04:31 PM
Just as a side note.

Wouldn't it be funny if the Steelers picked up Ngata in the free agent market to beef up the DL?

I wonder how Ben would react to that. He'd have to wear a face shield every day in practice.

Curtain_of_Steel
01-07-2011, 04:31 PM
All that from watching him play CENTER?lol

He is a late one to mid 2nd draft pick.

wutchy
01-07-2011, 04:34 PM
I went out of my way to watch 6 Florida games this season. And Mike is good, but he is NOT Top-Guard in this draft. He will go mid-2nd round at best. Probably lower 2nd or early 3rd round. I also saw those early Mocks. And most were just placing Mike as a Steeler first rounder JUST because we drafted his Brother. But the better college and draft scouts I have heard have said barring a GREAT Off-season workout,,,Mike Pouncey is NOT a 1st rounder.

Thats why i think the steelers will take him in round two. The tackle spots worry me. Colon may do okay at right tackle, but left tackle and DL might have to be addressed in free agency. LT for sure, unless we get the best LT in the draft with pick #1.
That would be great, so would getting Ngata. He's a beast.

Big
01-07-2011, 04:40 PM
When need a LG too. Kemo is still playing at the level we hoped he would improve on a few years ago. He misses blocks when he pulls and when he is supposed to chip and roll. Pouncey, Round 1, LG beside of his brother.

Fire Arians
01-07-2011, 04:48 PM
^ lol that's a funny pic in your sig

Rick5895
01-07-2011, 05:13 PM
I went out of my way to watch 6 Florida games this season. And Mike is good, but he is NOT Top-Guard in this draft. He will go mid-2nd round at best. Probably lower 2nd or early 3rd round. I also saw those early Mocks. And most were just placing Mike as a Steeler first rounder JUST because we drafted his Brother. But the better college and draft scouts I have heard have said barring a GREAT Off-season workout,,,Mike Pouncey is NOT a 1st rounder.

I think MIke Pouncey will be a very good NFL guard and I have to disagree with you on where he will be drafted. Since we will be drafting 25th or lowerif we don't take him in the 1st he won't be there that late in the 2nd. Here is my reasoning as to why I think he is a late 1st rd pick:

He played guard up uuntil this season when he moved to center. This makes him more attractive to the NFL because he can play two O L spots well. Secondly, the scouts in this league and the teams will look to Maurkice and figure the mike has the same character and work ethic as his brother, who is pro bowler as a rookie.

These factors in addition to playing at Florida will have him drafted in the lower 1st round. IMO.

:tt04:

sarahpalinhater
01-07-2011, 05:15 PM
I think MIke Pouncey will be a very good NFL guard and I have to disagree with you on where he will be drafted. Since we will be drafting 25th or lowerif we don't take him in the 1st he won't be there that late in the 2nd. Here is my reasoning as to why I think he is a late 1st rd pick:

He played guard up uuntil this season when he moved to center. This makes him more attractive to the NFL because he can play two O L spots well. Secondly, the scouts in this league and the teams will look to Maurkice and figure the mike has the same character and work ethic as his brother, who is pro bowler as a rookie.

These factors in addition to playing at Florida will have him drafted in the lower 1st round. IMO.

:tt04:




I might agree that Mike won't be around in the late stages of round 2. But that does not mean he should be taken in the late 1st either, cause that would be a reach. Ever hear about trading down several spot, get other picks, and then select him ?

Rick5895
01-07-2011, 05:21 PM
I might agree that Mike won't be around in the late stages of round 2. But that does not mean he should be taken in the late 1st either, cause that would be a reach. Ever hear about trading down several spot, get other picks, and then select him ?

They may well be able to trade down get more picks and take him, but whether its Steelers or not he will be drafted in the late 1st round. Players with his ability and character are hard to find.

SH-Rock
01-07-2011, 05:22 PM
Mike sucks at center. But then again Tebow and Urban Meyer have said that Maurkice was also susceptible to high snaps, but Tebow was able to catch those balls.

cloppbeast
01-07-2011, 05:25 PM
He'll be a mid first rounder. He's extremely talented, and his twin brother is really good.

Having a relative playing the game at a high level presently, or even in the past, always raises a player's stock. In Mike's case, he doesn't just have a brother who made the pro-bowl as a rookie, he has a twin he made the pro-bowl as a rookie.

He was raised by the same parents, he went to the same school, and has the exact same genome as Maurkice. What could possibly make them that much different?

Maurkice came into the league extremely focused and worked very hard to have such a successful rookie campaign. I expect the same type of attitude from his brother.

Anybody who doubts Mike's talent needs to go back and re-watch the Outback bowl.

SH-Rock
01-07-2011, 05:38 PM
He'll be a mid first rounder. He's extremely talented, and his twin brother is really good.

Having a relative playing the game at a high level presently, or even in the past, always raises a player's stock. In Mike's case, he doesn't just have a brother who made the pro-bowl as a rookie, he has a twin he made the pro-bowl as a rookie.

He was raised by the same parents, he went to the same school, and has the exact same genome as Maurkice. What could possibly make them that much different?

Maurkice came into the league extremely focused and worked very hard to have such a successful rookie campaign. I expect the same type of attitude from his brother.

Anybody who doubts Mike's talent needs to go back and re-watch the Outback bowl.

Well he can falter under the pressure of his brother's success.

sarahpalinhater
01-07-2011, 05:38 PM
He'll be a mid first rounder. He's extremely talented, and his twin brother is really good.

Having a relative playing the game at a high level presently, or even in the past, always raises a player's stock. In Mike's case, he doesn't just have a brother who made the pro-bowl as a rookie, he has a twin he made the pro-bowl as a rookie.

He was raised by the same parents, he went to the same school, and has the exact same genome as Maurkice. What could possibly make them that much different?

Maurkice came into the league extremely focused and worked very hard to have such a successful rookie campaign. I expect the same type of attitude from his brother.

Anybody who doubts Mike's talent needs to go back and re-watch the Outback bowl.






The Outback Bowl ? Oh great, and did you happen to see the pathetic team that they went up against ? Penn State this season was among the WORST Defensive teams in the nation,,and a Horrid Rush defense as well. Not hard to see why Florida ran all over them. Try watching the Alabama game, or the South Carolina game, where their D-Linemen tossed around Pouncey like a Rag doll. Or the Florida State game where Pouncey looked horrible.


But Penn State ?..Hell my neighbors Pee-Wee team can run on Penn State this past season :applaudit:

wutchy
01-07-2011, 05:54 PM
Mike Pouncey is 6'4" and 310, and still growing. He could play tackle too.
There are some really talented DL in the draft, so I expect the steelers to get a good one. I wish they could get Ngata via free agency, and get a LT in round one. Then get Pouncey in round two.

Now that, would be IDEAL.

pete74
01-07-2011, 06:18 PM
I wish Pouncey would fall to us in the 2nd but it wont happen. he is good and because of his brothers sucess he will be a 1st rounder or very early 2nd. i would rather grab a corner, tackel or defensive lineman in the 1st but i wouldnt complain if we took Mike Pouncey

SteelKnight
01-07-2011, 06:20 PM
I was thinking about the sorry condition of the steelers offensive line last night.
Adams probably won't be back next year, ...

Who would you like to see the steelers get via free agency to fill the holes on the lines?

I disagree with you. I actually think:

1. Flozelle will be back for 1 more year. he has played well and is under contract.
2. I think a big weakness has actually been left guard with Kemo.
3. I think or DL for next year is fine. I think Hampton/Hoke can pull it out again and we have no room on the roster for 3 NTs. If a beast like Ngata falls fine, otherwise...no. We don't need a 4th DE to sit on the bench because the DEs are old. Smith/Keisel have some time. I'll worry once Hood is a Starter. It's good we have 3 because they get hurt a lot.
4. I would like to take Pouncey to plug in at RG and maybe move Foster to LG. There is no way he would be there for our round 2 pick. Our round 1 pick is at the end and is almost like a top round 2 pick.
5. Matt Light is getting old but I wouldn't mind using his services for 3 years while we look for for a better LT. Maybe his age brings him at a discount.

SteelKnight
01-07-2011, 06:25 PM
When need a LG too. Kemo is still playing at the level we hoped he would improve on a few years ago. He misses blocks when he pulls and when he is supposed to chip and roll. Pouncey, Round 1, LG beside of his brother.

I had been wondering whether we could move Mike Pouncey to LG. Even though he has never done it, perhaps Kugs could train him. That would be great.

stlrtruck
01-07-2011, 07:02 PM
Watching Mike by himself he isn't the greatest. However, watching him last year with his brother was different. They feed off each other and play at a much higher level with a greater intensity. I definitely wouldn't mind seeing Mike in the Black and Gold come next draft.

theplatypus
01-07-2011, 07:15 PM
As many as it takes

jizzballz
01-07-2011, 08:13 PM
drafting just because of a twin is a waste of a first round draft pick, it's ****ing stupid, if there is a better player and a position we need to upgrade more like secondary, if someone is there, you ****ing take him, you dont take the twin because he is a twin of one of your players, that's ****ing stupid, exactly why we didnt draft walter mcfadden, thank ****ing god.

steelerforlife
01-07-2011, 09:21 PM
What about our tackles that are on IR this year? Left Tackle will already be improved and personally I think Flozell has been tremendous in his "first" year at RT although age is a concern. I think Mike Pouncey would be an "acceptable" gamble w/ a late 1st Rd. pick. He played great w/ his brother by his side in college. Maybe its true that twins have some kind of instinct. I just hope they wont kiss again.:hug:

4xSBChamps
01-07-2011, 09:49 PM
I'm currently living in the Pouncey's hometown

2 weeks-ago, while watching the Steelers at the local sports-pub, a guy noticed my Steeler sweatshirt, and on his way to the door, he stopped at my seat, and offered this comment

"... I've been coaching football in this town for many years, and I've seen many players go from the area into the NFL:
I've never seen more athletic & agile big-men than those 2 Pouncey boys ... you guys would do well to draft the 2nd brother next year..."

then he walked out the door

I don't watch much college football, so I can't offer any thoughts into his comments

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for-what-it's-worth