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tony hipchest
01-23-2011, 02:52 PM
as per adam schefter.

WOW! him and arians will be free agents.

Steelboy84
01-23-2011, 02:52 PM
LeBeau and Norv Turner, nuff said

SH-Rock
01-23-2011, 02:53 PM
Lebeau comes back no matter what. If he doesn't, would be the dumbest thing the Steelers ever do.

MACH1
01-23-2011, 02:55 PM
Lebeau comes back no matter what. If he doesn't, would be the dumbest thing the Steelers ever do.

Bringing back arians would be the dumbest thing.:rolleyes:

SeinfeldNut
01-23-2011, 02:56 PM
I think the Steelers are smart enough to recognize if LeBeau wants to come back, they will work out a new contract.

SH-Rock
01-23-2011, 02:57 PM
Bringing back arians would be the dumbest thing.:rolleyes:

Hmm now that is a debate.

Heathtowinit
01-23-2011, 02:59 PM
I think I heard somewhere Lebeau wants to coach the 2011-2012 season for the Steelers, not sure if that was official. I really hope we keep him as long as possible. I know the defensive guys look to him almost as a father, really close relationship

3rdandlong
01-23-2011, 02:59 PM
The Steelers will have no problem resigning Lebeau, that is, if he wants to come back. He's getting up there in age

Heathtowinit
01-23-2011, 03:02 PM
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/thehuddle/post/2011/01/steelers-defensive-coordinator-dick-lebeau-sidesteps-retirement-question/1

tony hipchest
01-23-2011, 03:02 PM
lebeau definitely wants to continue coaching, he said as much this week when he reminded the reporters he's not even the oldest coach in PA (paterno is 84).

im just suprized no news of lebeaus contract was ever leaked. this was probably the best kept steelers secret i can remember.

SH-Rock
01-23-2011, 03:06 PM
Also the players love Lebeau and he is the best DC in the game today and one of the best all time. No way the Rooney's let him walk away unless he retires which I doubt.

lionslicer
01-23-2011, 03:12 PM
LeBeau will most likely ask to have his contract renewed before the Rooney's even have a chance to give him an offer, he seems to like it here.

Arians will come back unless he gets a head coaching job offer.

lipps83
01-23-2011, 03:58 PM
If Dick retires, try to bring in Dom Capers. Always thought he was a great DC and would love to see him come back.

Arians, ummmm, I am sure they can find a Linebackers coach at the High School level to replace him for Offensive Coordinator.

Atlanta Dan
01-23-2011, 04:01 PM
LeBeau's contract extension situation might have something to do with the potential lockout and who gets paid if there is a lockout in early March -

MattsMe
01-23-2011, 04:07 PM
If Dick retires, try to bring in Dom Capers. Always thought he was a great DC and would love to see him come back.

Arians, ummmm, I am sure they can find a Linebackers coach at the High School level to replace him for Offensive Coordinator.

It's pretty well known that Keith Butler will replace Lebeau when he retires.

SH-Rock
01-23-2011, 04:08 PM
It's pretty well known that Keith Butler will replace Lebeau when he retires.

I would take Butler over Capers if Lebeau goes. Keep Lebeau's defense alive, but come on guys don't jinx it.

Goldsteel86
01-23-2011, 04:08 PM
He'll be back, he is the "Father" of this defense and one big reaosn for the last two Super Bowl Titles!!!!

MikeHaullace
01-23-2011, 04:17 PM
I think the Steelers are smart enough to recognize if LeBeau wants to come back, they will work out a new contract.

This pretty much sums it up.

LeBeau is, and always will be a Steeler. As long as he wants a job with the Steelers, he has one. Fans can only hope he wants to coach after the Super Bowl. Dude is a young old man.

I don't think he's done.

MattsMe
01-23-2011, 04:21 PM
LeBeau's contract extension situation might have something to do with the potential lockout and who gets paid if there is a lockout in early March -

Excellent point, I think we have a winner.

mesaSteeler
01-23-2011, 04:50 PM
Sources: Dick LeBeau's contract up
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2010/news/story?id=6051213&campaign=rss&source=NFLHeadlines
By Chris Mortensen and Adam Schefter
ESPN

The contract of Pittsburgh Steelers Hall of Fame defensive coordinator Dick LeBeau expires after this season, according to league sources.

AFC North blog

Walker ESPN.com's James Walker writes about all things AFC North in his division blog.

LeBeau is regarded as arguably the league's top defensive coordinator. He was instrumental in the success of former Steelers coach Bill Cowher and current Steelers coach Mike Tomlin.

If LeBeau doesn't retire or return to the Steelers, he may land in Arizona. The Cardinals boast former Steelers assistants Ken Whisenhunt and Russ Grimm and currently have an opening at defensive coordinator after firing Billy Davis.

The Cardinals have been suspiciously quiet while other NFC West teams have made high-profile moves. The 49ers hired coach Jim Harbaugh, the Rams hired offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels and the Seahawks hired former Raiders coach Tom Cable and former Vikings offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell.

Last season the Cardinals ranked 30th in the league in scoring defense, allowing 27.1 points per game. They ranked 30th in the league in rush defense, surrendering 145.2 yards per game.

When asked about his future plans Friday, LeBeau remained focused on the AFC championship.

"We still have some defense to play. If somebody wants me to work, I think maybe we can still get them in and out of the huddle a couple times. But I am not looking too far down the road. As a friend once said, 'We're not buying any green bananas, baby, '" LeBeau told USA Today.

LeBeau, 73, skirted questions about retirement, alluding to Penn State coach Joe Paterno.

"Well, I have a standard retort to that. Hell, I'm not even the oldest coach in the state of Pennsylvania. There's a guy up there at Penn State that's 10 years older than me," LeBeau said to USA Today. "I feel like the baby."

The Steelers had a dominant defensive season in 2010, ranking first in run defense and scoring defense and second in overall defense.

"Someone has to want you to coach. We have been blessed from that standpoint. We'll see how that goes. I don't think these guys had too bad of a year defensively," LeBeau told USA Today.

Chris Mortensen is ESPN's senior NFL analyst. Adam Schefter is ESPN's NFL insider.

(I don't buy this for a minute. I think this is twitter trash crap. "League sources"? Rex Ryan maybe? LeBeau in Arizona? Are your serious! Why would he go from the best owner in the league to one of the worst? If would not be for money since Bozo Bidwell is notoriously cheap.

Why would LeBeau go from the best defense in the league and players he is very close to a bunch of losers, with former Steelers excepted, that he doesn't even know.

I'll call this "story" for what it is. At best it is Twitter bull crap, at worst it is planted disinformation trying to distract the Steelers and LeBeau.

It's garbage like this is why Twitter is for twits as far as being a reliable news source.

As far as I'm concerned Mortensen and Schefter are just toilet sniffing garbage like Florio. - mesa)

Atlanta Dan
01-23-2011, 04:59 PM
I'll call this "story" for what it is. At best it is Twitter bull crap, at worst it is planted disinformation trying to distract the Steelers and LeBeau.

It's garbage like this is why Twitter is for twits as far as being a reliable news source.

As far as I'm concerned Mortensen and Schefter are just toilet sniffing garbage like Florio. - mesa)

Agreed - unfortunately it is all about driving page hits to your site

MikeHaullace
01-23-2011, 05:05 PM
If LeBeau doesn't retire or return to the Steelers, he may land in Arizona.

If LeBeau doesn't retire or return to the Steelers, he may not land in Arizona.

Atlanta Dan
01-23-2011, 05:06 PM
as per adam schefter.

WOW! him and arians will be free agents.

This from Ed.B. of the P-G

If they lose, this could be Bruce Arians’ last as the Steelers offensive coordinator


http://plus.sites.post-gazette.com/index.php/pro-sports/steelers/107661-ed-and-the-pick-is-----

SH-Rock
01-23-2011, 05:10 PM
This from Ed.B. of the P-G

If they lose, this could be Bruce Arians’ last as the Steelers offensive coordinator


http://plus.sites.post-gazette.com/index.php/pro-sports/steelers/107661-ed-and-the-pick-is-----

Super Bowl or losing Arians
I'd take Super Bowl.

mesaSteeler
01-23-2011, 05:11 PM
Super Bowl or losing Arians
I'd take Super Bowl.

I'd take both. This so called "news" about LeBeau is garbage.

Atlanta Dan
01-23-2011, 05:12 PM
Super Bowl or losing Arians
I'd take Super Bowl.

But a definite silver lining to the dark cloud of a loss to the Jets

Atlanta Dan
01-23-2011, 05:16 PM
I'd take both. This so called "news" about LeBeau is garbage.

Ed. B. may figure if ESPN can run with the LeBeau story he will toss his Arians story out there

Cowher canned Erhardt after the Steelers went to SB XXX - maybe Tomlin or AJR II have seen enough

tony hipchest
01-23-2011, 05:16 PM
I'll call this "story" for what it is. At best it is Twitter bull crap, at worst it is planted disinformation trying to distract the Steelers and LeBeau.

It's garbage like this is why Twitter is for twits as far as being a reliable news source.

As far as I'm concerned Mortensen and Schefter are just toilet sniffing garbage like Florio. - mesa)

woah... easy there. the reports that his contract is up is almost certainly true. it is JAMES WALKER speculating that lebeau could end up in arizona based on this newly released information that lebeau will be a free agent.

but like atlanta dan already pointed out this is a typical rooney move. if there is a lockout, they are gonna pay as few coaches as possible to sit around at home and wait for work to begin. alot could happen with a man at lebeaus age between now and march of 2012.

tony hipchest
01-23-2011, 05:22 PM
lebeau was re-signed by the steelers back in 2004.

when was the last time anyone heard about him getting a contract extension?

i cant recall.

if both his and arians contract run out at the same time there may be a lockout i find it to be more than just coincidence.

mesaSteeler
01-23-2011, 05:27 PM
Sorry I still think this is a total garbage story.

A "league source"!

Do you really think that all reporters from the Pittsburgh Post Gazette, The Pittsburgh Tribune Review, Wexell, Lolley, and all the others that cover the Steelers on a daily basis wouldn't write about if it were true? I know Wexell has twitter account and he likes to break "news" as much as the next reporter. Yet not a peep from him about this.

I don't buy this story for a moment. I don't even believe that LeBeau's contract is up. After all the the Rooney's extended Tomlin in July and that made news. Yet nothing on LeBeau.

This so called "story" smells and falls into the "Terry Bradshaw is dead" category.

SH-Rock
01-23-2011, 05:33 PM
Even if his contract is up, do you think the Art Rooney will let him walk? He deserves all the money he can get.

Atlanta Dan
01-23-2011, 05:33 PM
lebeau was re-signed by the steelers back in 2004.

when was the last time anyone heard about him getting a contract extension?

i cant recall.

if both his and arians contract run out at the same time there may be a lockout i find it to be more than just coincidence.

I am linking to this article on how assistants might be impacted by a lockout - no surprise Sunday Countdown is not looking at this angle since those pre-game shows are infomercials for the league

In the case of the 32 head coaches in the league -- Bill Belichick, Sean Payton, Mike Shanahan, Mike Tomlin, Pete Carroll and the rest -- the answer is easy. They'll work and be paid through any lockout.

But the answer isn't quite so simple for the coordinators, position coaches, strength-and-conditioning specialists and other assistants who do much of the heavy lifting for a team through the course of a year. If a lockout begins some time after the expiration of the current union contract in March 2011, or after the college player draft in April, what would be their fates?

There would be no minicamps, no training camps, no exhibition games and, in the worst of scenarios, no season. Why would team owners continue to pay these coaches for work they cannot do?

It's an issue the owners have anticipated.

A few teams would keep their coaching staffs working during a lockout. To the owners of those teams, apparently, a lockout offers their coaches a unique opportunity for continued study of defensive and offensive schemes and for detailed evaluations of players and prospective players. When the lockout ends, these coaching staffs would be ready to welcome their players back.

In an excellent article in the recent issue of the Marquette Sports Law Review, St. Louis attorney Robert H. Lattinville (of the firm of Stinson Morrison Hecker LLP) and NYU law professor Robert A. Boland point out that both the Baltimore Ravens and the Cincinnati Bengals have awarded "coach-friendly" contracts to their staffs. Those teams would continue to pay their coaches during a lockout. The New York Giants would pay their coaches in full for the first six months of any work stoppage.

ut most teams have insisted on including lockout clauses in the contracts they've given their coaches that will reduce their salaries and, in some cases, dismiss them altogether. Those owners view the lockout as an opportunity to cut their costs. They would use the lockout clauses to save some money.

The cost savings, however, would be surprisingly small.

NFL teams employ an average of 19 coaches, according to Larry Kennan, the executive director of the NFL Coaches Association, a professional association of coordinators and assistants formed to share salary information and increase coaches' leverage. The New Orleans Saints, who won Super Bowl XLI last season, employ a staff of 21, for example; the Indianapolis Colts, the Super Bowl runners-up, have 19 coaches on their staff.

According to contract studies made by Kennan and the NFLCA, the average salary of an assistant coach is $350,000. The average cost of a coaching staff is only $6.7 million, a pittance compared to a player payroll in the range of the 2009 salary cap of $128 million.

Here are some examples of what specific teams would do with their coaches in a lockout:

New York Jets: A 25 percent salary reduction on the day a lockout begins. After 90 days, a further reduction of 50 percent or dismissal from the staff.

Tampa Bay Buccaneers: A 25 percent salary reduction on the day the lockout begins. After 90 days, a further reduction of 50 percent. (There is no dismissal language in the Bucs' contracts.)

Denver Broncos: A 50 percent salary reduction on the day the lockout begins.

Arizona Cardinals: Four weeks of full pay after the lockout begins, followed by a 35 percent salary reduction.

Minnesota Vikings: Ninety days of full pay after a lockout begins, followed by a 75 percent salary reduction for 90 days and then dismissal.

Chicago Bears: A 25 percent salary reduction on the day a lockout begins with a team option to dismiss after a 60-day notice.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/commentary/news/story?page=munson/100722

LeBeau and Arians simply may have declined to sign the contracts the Steelers presented to them - if so, not a wise career move for Bruce:chuckle:

tony hipchest
01-23-2011, 05:37 PM
Sorry I still think this is a total garbage story.

A "league source"!

Do you really think that all reporters from the Pittsburgh Post Gazette, The Pittsburgh Tribune Review, Wexell, Lolley, and all the others that cover the Steelers on a daily basis wouldn't write about if it were true? I know Wexell has twitter account and he likes to break "news" as much as the next reporter. Yet not a peep from him about this.

.

well, just like the "ben losing his voice" story, im sure all the local reporters will be all over this tomorrow.

here is what we know-

-lebeaus contract situations has been top secret.

-the steelers or lebeau will not comment on this until after the final game.

-if anything, the steelers will comment that he is currently under contract [which is true until march].

-if it is untrue the steelers will IMMEDIATELY come out and say it is untrue to squash any distractions and admit that he has X amount of years remaining on his current deal (im not holding my breath).

-lebeau is worth and earned the highest DC contract in the league, but the rooneys always make a coach take a discount because he is playing with their ingredients in their system.

SoCalFan
01-23-2011, 05:40 PM
I love tho comment about retireing.He said hes not even the oldest coach in the state!(Joe-pa).He aint going no where!!!!

mesaSteeler
01-23-2011, 05:42 PM
I am linking to this article on how assistants might be impacted by a lockout - no surprise Sunday Countdown is not looking at this angle since those pre-game shows are infomercials for the league

In the case of the 32 head coaches in the league -- Bill Belichick, Sean Payton, Mike Shanahan, Mike Tomlin, Pete Carroll and the rest -- the answer is easy. They'll work and be paid through any lockout.

But the answer isn't quite so simple for the coordinators, position coaches, strength-and-conditioning specialists and other assistants who do much of the heavy lifting for a team through the course of a year. If a lockout begins some time after the expiration of the current union contract in March 2011, or after the college player draft in April, what would be their fates?

There would be no minicamps, no training camps, no exhibition games and, in the worst of scenarios, no season. Why would team owners continue to pay these coaches for work they cannot do?

It's an issue the owners have anticipated.

A few teams would keep their coaching staffs working during a lockout. To the owners of those teams, apparently, a lockout offers their coaches a unique opportunity for continued study of defensive and offensive schemes and for detailed evaluations of players and prospective players. When the lockout ends, these coaching staffs would be ready to welcome their players back.

In an excellent article in the recent issue of the Marquette Sports Law Review, St. Louis attorney Robert H. Lattinville (of the firm of Stinson Morrison Hecker LLP) and NYU law professor Robert A. Boland point out that both the Baltimore Ravens and the Cincinnati Bengals have awarded "coach-friendly" contracts to their staffs. Those teams would continue to pay their coaches during a lockout. The New York Giants would pay their coaches in full for the first six months of any work stoppage.

ut most teams have insisted on including lockout clauses in the contracts they've given their coaches that will reduce their salaries and, in some cases, dismiss them altogether. Those owners view the lockout as an opportunity to cut their costs. They would use the lockout clauses to save some money.

The cost savings, however, would be surprisingly small.

NFL teams employ an average of 19 coaches, according to Larry Kennan, the executive director of the NFL Coaches Association, a professional association of coordinators and assistants formed to share salary information and increase coaches' leverage. The New Orleans Saints, who won Super Bowl XLI last season, employ a staff of 21, for example; the Indianapolis Colts, the Super Bowl runners-up, have 19 coaches on their staff.

According to contract studies made by Kennan and the NFLCA, the average salary of an assistant coach is $350,000. The average cost of a coaching staff is only $6.7 million, a pittance compared to a player payroll in the range of the 2009 salary cap of $128 million.

Here are some examples of what specific teams would do with their coaches in a lockout:

New York Jets: A 25 percent salary reduction on the day a lockout begins. After 90 days, a further reduction of 50 percent or dismissal from the staff.

Tampa Bay Buccaneers: A 25 percent salary reduction on the day the lockout begins. After 90 days, a further reduction of 50 percent. (There is no dismissal language in the Bucs' contracts.)

Denver Broncos: A 50 percent salary reduction on the day the lockout begins.

Arizona Cardinals: Four weeks of full pay after the lockout begins, followed by a 35 percent salary reduction.

Minnesota Vikings: Ninety days of full pay after a lockout begins, followed by a 75 percent salary reduction for 90 days and then dismissal.

Chicago Bears: A 25 percent salary reduction on the day a lockout begins with a team option to dismiss after a 60-day notice.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/commentary/news/story?page=munson/100722

LeBeau and Arians simply may have declined to sign the contracts the Steelers presented to them - if so, not a wise career move for Bruce:chuckle:

Interesting. Thank you for posting it. The Rooney's are justly famous for maintaining the continuity of their coaching staff. After all LeBeau was retained when Cowher quit. That's another reason why I don't believe the story.

Also after reading your article then no assistant is safe for any team. So why was this posted about LeBeau and not any of the Bears, Packers, or Jets assistants? LeBeau is actually safer financially speaking, than any other assistant since he could retire at will. Since he is a smart man I'm sure he has a retirement plan.

The story smells.

As far as Airhead I'd like to see him as OC in Phoenix. That way I could laugh after every game.

lipps83
01-23-2011, 06:37 PM
Super Bowl or losing Arians
I'd take Super Bowl.

I don't care if they win the Super Bowl. I want Arians gone.

To add:

I would rather lose Arians and take the Super Bowl loss. We could make up for it next year when the water boy starts calling the offensive plays.

Atlanta Dan
01-24-2011, 02:28 PM
ESPN is now dissing its own story yesterday regarding the "LeBeau may go to Arizona" rumor

This was Mortenson and and Schefter on Sunday

If LeBeau doesn't retire or return to the Steelers, he may land in Arizona. The Cardinals boast former Steelers assistants Ken Whisenhunt and Russ Grimm and currently have an opening at defensive coordinator after firing Billy Davis.

The Cardinals have been suspiciously quiet while other NFC West teams have made high-profile moves.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6051213

This is James Walker on the ESPN AFC North blog today

don't believe the hype linking LeBeau to Arizona. That's a pipe dream, at best.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/36421/seven-step-drop-underdog-steelers

The Worldwide Leader has reached the state of arguing both sides of any issue

madtowndrunkard
01-24-2011, 02:41 PM
Even if there is a lock out, DL deserves a contract. I think that would be pretty shady for Mr. Rooney to not pay DL because there is a work stoppage. I think the guy has earned financial security with the Steelers. He's been loyal to us, we should be loyal to him. I suspect DL will be the highest paid DC in the league.... Steelers FO will announce it after the SB.

Atlanta Dan
01-24-2011, 02:43 PM
I could see Coach LeBeau retiring if the Steelers win in Dallas

sarahpalinhater
01-24-2011, 02:59 PM
I'll take the word of another PA Insider over anyone else thank you :-)


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/24/paolantonio-says-lebeau-will-definitely-be-back-in-pittsburgh-next-season/

Atlanta Dan
01-24-2011, 03:36 PM
I'll take the word of another PA Insider over anyone else thank you :-)


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/24/paolantonio-says-lebeau-will-definitely-be-back-in-pittsburgh-next-season/

Given Sal Paolantonio's vast connections with the Steelers you willl take Sal's word over anyone?:noidea:

Isn't Sal a Philadelphia guy who primarily covers the I-95 corridor?

sarahpalinhater
01-24-2011, 03:44 PM
Given Sal Paolantonio's vast connections with the Steelers you willl take Sal's word over anyone?:noidea:

Isn't Sal a Philadelphia guy who primarily covers the I-95 corridor?

Sal IS the national Steeler beat reporter when the Eagles are not in play. And yes, I will take his word over Adam Shefter any day! :tt03:

Atlanta Dan
01-24-2011, 03:46 PM
Sal IS the national Steeler beat reporter when the Eagles are not in play. And yes, I will take his word over Adam Shefter any day! :tt03:

Except for the bye week the Eagles play every week the Steelers play and Sal had the Jets sideline yeserday, not Pittsburgh's - if Sal has any insights they are second hand

MattsMe
01-26-2011, 05:46 PM
I'm sure many more threads will be started about this before the day is over, but I thought I'd just add this to the thread we already have.

Looks like Coach Dad isn't going anywhere.

LeBeau: 'If I'm coaching, it will be the Pittsburgh Steelers'

http://www.nfl.com/superbowl/story/09000d5d81deecdb/article/lebeau-if-im-coaching-it-will-be-the-pittsburgh-steelers

GMU Steeler
01-26-2011, 05:52 PM
I'm sure many more threads will be started about this before the day is over, but I thought I'd just add this to the thread we already have.

Looks like Coach Dad isn't going anywhere.

LeBeau: 'If I'm coaching, it will be the Pittsburgh Steelers'

http://www.nfl.com/superbowl/story/09000d5d81deecdb/article/lebeau-if-im-coaching-it-will-be-the-pittsburgh-steelers

I'm not surprised at all. Glad to hear it though from the man himself. He's given us a lot of great D's over the years. And I loved his sense of humor when asked about it too and how he referenced that he wasn't even the oldest coach in the state referring to Joe Pa.

mesaSteeler
01-26-2011, 05:58 PM
I'm sure many more threads will be started about this before the day is over, but I thought I'd just add this to the thread we already have.

Looks like Coach Dad isn't going anywhere.

LeBeau: 'If I'm coaching, it will be the Pittsburgh Steelers'

http://www.nfl.com/superbowl/story/09000d5d81deecdb/article/lebeau-if-im-coaching-it-will-be-the-pittsburgh-steelers

As I said at the beginning of this thread this whole "story" was a stinking pile of twitter crap pushed toilet sniffing Steeler hating scum like Mortensen and Florio. Any "news" report that uses "league sources" and twitter is garbage.