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tony hipchest
04-29-2006, 09:07 PM
l. white, rod white, darnell bing and ko simpson. im thinking all 4 mustve had drug problems or something. if not why draft a project at safety, a #2 wr, and a return specialist. (granted the steelers needs are really at special teams.) i am suprised that no big men are drafted on the 1st day

Hammer67
04-29-2006, 09:11 PM
l. white, rod white, darnell bing and ko simpson. im thinking all 4 mustve had drug problems or something. if not why draft a project at safety, a #2 wr, and a return specialist. (granted the steelers needs are really at special teams.) i am suprised that no big men are drafted on the 1st day


Holmes was the first WR taken in the draft and one of the top two this year...I believe they addressed a glaring need with that pick.

White might turn into Ron Dayne....

RB is a position they can address next year. Rounds 2 - 4 are pretty close in terms of talent available. I think they will be alright. Not a bad first pick for the last position in the draft.

BIGBENFASTWILLIE
04-29-2006, 09:13 PM
Yes, we needed a wr and i believe we secured a good one, but i also think that this years draft may go down as the worse steelers draft ever..........its nice not to have any major holes on a defending superbowl chapmipion team

Steelillini
04-29-2006, 09:16 PM
let's not jump the gun. Our FO has done this before and I have faith that they know what they are doing.

Ambridge
04-29-2006, 09:20 PM
l. white, rod white, darnell bing and ko simpson. im thinking all 4 mustve had drug problems or something. if not why draft a project at safety, a #2 wr, and a return specialist. (granted the steelers needs are really at special teams.) i am suprised that no big men are drafted on the 1st day


You answered my question about Bing, that's pretty surprising.
Damn he dropped faster and farther than a share of Enron stock.

BlitzburghRockCity
04-29-2006, 09:22 PM
I cant remember the last time when the Steelers actually had a BAD draft. Sure sometimes we miss on a player or injuries happen..but overall, I trust their judgement and if they think we needed extra help at WR, then so be it. I think with Willie Reid, he was probably the highest rated player on the board left for them so that came into play atleast alittle bit in the decision, IMO.

Weve got a bunch of picks on day 2 and we can get some of the depth we need at LB, DE, and RB.

This is what happens when you have no real needs to fill, u draft for depth, and you have the luxury of a project or 2.

Dook
04-29-2006, 09:25 PM
I'm glad we got WR Santonio Holmes although at the time I thought we had a good chance getting either he or WR Chad Jackson at 32.

I don't think we should have traded our 2nd pick. We could have taken the second best ILB Abdul Hodge, Safeties Simpson or Bing with that pick.

With S Anthony Smith, well, I have to trust that the team's scouts saw something we all missed.

I really don't understand the WR Willie Reid pick. He's another speedster, 4.34 speed so maybe they want to use Reid and Holmes as kick returners.

Hoping for a big back tomorrow, RB Cedric Humes, RB De'Arrius Howard, or RB Mike Bell.

BlitzburghRockCity
04-29-2006, 09:28 PM
makes you wonder if the Steelers are looking for more speed now instead of the traditional. "just has to be tough, have good hands, be able to go across the middle, take the short to intermediate route" type of WR. Cedric Wilson is a burner, Reid is too, so is Nate Washington and Holmes isnt exactly slow either.

clevestinks
04-29-2006, 09:36 PM
Our offense will be faster, and have better hands than in over 20 years

tony hipchest
04-29-2006, 09:37 PM
fact of the matter is today we drafted to replace a #2-3 wr, a back up for ryan clark, and a kick return specialist (maybe a #2 or #3 wr project) sorry but im not gonna get a stiffy over the steelers draft so far. good players? hell yeah, nothing that will give us leverage against the cap in upcoming years though. good think is the only place we really needed help was the #3 wr spot and special teams. that has been addressed. i guess tomorrow we can draft some more back ups for rb and lb and be just fine (for a year or so)

Petesburgh66
04-29-2006, 09:44 PM
I don't think we should have traded our 2nd pick. We could have taken the second best ILB Abdul Hodge, Safeties Simpson or Bing with that pick.

Simpson and Bing could of been had in the third round but all 32 teams passed on them. This is why don't care for all these mock drafts going around. I will leave it to the pros to draft.

Dook
04-29-2006, 09:45 PM
I think some of our picks actually did improve our future cap situation.

Only WR Holmes is going to get any real money, all the others are going to be signed for league minimum which is lower for the rookies than it is for 4 year veterans like Sean Morey.

Morey's league minimum salary is $540,000.

Cut Morey and put in Reid, saves us $280,000 a year for one player.

Ambridge
04-29-2006, 09:55 PM
I think some of our picks actually did improve our future cap situation.

Only WR Holmes is going to get any real money, all the others are going to be signed for league minimum which is lower for the rookies than it is for 4 year veterans like Sean Morey.

Morey's league minimum salary is $540,000.

Cut Morey and put in Reid, saves us $280,000 a year for one player.


That does make sense and could be a brilliant strategy by the Steelers.
By not having to drop a ton of cash in this years draft class just puts money in the bank in for Ben and Troy when it's their time for a new deal.

I wouldn't cut Morey in favor of Reid.

BlitzburghRockCity
04-29-2006, 10:08 PM
Its a definately cap friendly draft so far. Even with the fact that the CBA is done and more money will be available, no sense spending ourselves silly if the guys we really want arent there. Im anxious to hear the press conference on their day 1 thoughts.

Volpe1564
04-29-2006, 11:17 PM
i hope we get RB on day 2, i guess im just writing off Duce and saying hes gonna be on IR by week 3. but hey if hes healthy for a whole season then hey we got a great shot. aside from him i think it should be all D side...(LB,DL)

Ohio Steeler
04-29-2006, 11:20 PM
i hope we get RB on day 2, i guess im just writing off Duce and saying hes gonna be on IR by week 3. but hey if hes healthy for a whole season then hey we got a great shot. aside from him i think it should be all D side...(LB,DL)


I would like to see them draft a BIG back to replace the Bus someone to put a hurting on teams for those short yeard pick up's

tony hipchest
04-30-2006, 01:14 AM
I would like to see them draft a BIG back to replace the Bus someone to put a hurting on teams for those short yeard pick up's not in this draft. bus type players come along once in a generation. notice how those bus type rb's never last for mor than a few seasons, or are strictly short yardage/ goal line backs who never get more than 300-400 yds in a season? thats why the steelers paid so much for duce. the ones who have lasted are usually injury ridden or too fat to contribute for an extended period of time.

it is time for us steelerfans to admit the jb era is over and to embrace the willie parker era. personally i think willie has learned from the best and ready to expand his role as team contributor.

clevestinks
04-30-2006, 06:25 AM
Out of the STeelers 22 starters on the Super Bowl Championship team 17 thye had drafted, pretty impressive if you ask me, we can trust Rooney and company.

Mosca
04-30-2006, 07:03 AM
Re: speed at wide receiver, it's been 30 years since we had a quarterback that could actually make use of a fast WR. Now we have the guy who can pitch, imagine what will happen when we have the guy who can catch.

Everything changes when training camp opens. This is like picking fruit in the grocery store; it looks great as far as squeezing it, looking at the color, no bruises, etc; but you don't know what it's going to taste like until you eat it. It's not about what it looks like in the store, it's about how it tastes, and the Steelers have shown a knack for picking fruit that tastes great.


Tom

clevestinks
04-30-2006, 07:10 AM
Re: speed at wide receiver, it's been 30 years since we had a quarterback that could actually make use of a fast WR. Now we have the guy who can pitch, imagine what will happen when we have the guy who can catch.

Everything changes when training camp opens. This is like picking fruit in the grocery store; it looks great as far as squeezing it, looking at the color, no bruises, etc; but you don't know what it's going to taste like until you eat it. It's not about what it looks like in the store, it's about how it tastes, and the Steelers have shown a knack for picking fruit that tastes great.


Tom
Damn, good take! Sort of poetic! LOL

BlitzburghRockCity
04-30-2006, 08:27 AM
:iagree: good way to put it...

so basically the rooneys should open up a grocery store? :toofunny:

clevestinks
04-30-2006, 08:45 AM
Carolina was rumored to be looking at Holmes. We'll probably never know, but it was a risk that had to be taken.
Hey, look at how well the last "trade up" in the first round worked out for us. Some guy named Troy something-or-other

BlitzburghRockCity
04-30-2006, 08:55 AM
According the article at steelers.com, the plan that came together, and on FSN, last night..the Steelers had inside information that teams were looking to jump into the Giants spot, to try and get a WR. They didnt know which one, but they knew if they wanted Holmes they'd have to make a move. It worked out and they'd do it again they said.

Hammer67
04-30-2006, 11:14 AM
fact of the matter is today we drafted to replace a #2-3 wr, a back up for ryan clark, and a kick return specialist (maybe a #2 or #3 wr project) sorry but im not gonna get a stiffy over the steelers draft so far. good players? hell yeah, nothing that will give us leverage against the cap in upcoming years though. good think is the only place we really needed help was the #3 wr spot and special teams. that has been addressed. i guess tomorrow we can draft some more back ups for rb and lb and be just fine (for a year or so)


Don't forget an O lineman...

Suitanim
05-01-2006, 08:42 AM
Bing and Simpson were rated below Smith on the Steelers chart, so that's all I need to know about that.

As for White, I think the Steelers made it clear how they felt when they said Holmes was the only guy they'd move up for.

Dook
05-01-2006, 09:29 AM
If you've seen the highlight video on NFL.com of safety Anthony Smith you will easily agree with the Steelers.