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mesaSteeler
01-28-2011, 03:25 PM
Team of decade? Some Pittsburgh players feel cheated
By F. Dale Lolley, Staff writer dlolley@observer-reporter.com
http://www.observer-reporter.com/or/localsports/01-28-2011-Steelers-Patriots--amp--Super-Bowl

PITTSBURGH - Forget the team of the 1960s vs. the team of the '70s talk with the Green Bay Packers and Pittsburgh Steelers. The Steelers wonder why they're not considered the most dominant team of the last 10 years.

Perhaps, if the Steelers can win their third Super Bowl in six seasons when play the Packers Feb. 6 in Dallas in Super XLV, that will happen.

Until then, however, they Steelers know they'll still play second fiddle to the New England Patriots, who won three Super Bowls early in this decade and played in another at the end of the 2007 season.

With another Super Bowl win, the Steelers - they won in 2005 and 2008 - will match what the Patriots have done in the last 10 seasons.

The Steelers also have been to five AFC Championships during that time, losing to the Patriots in 2001 and 2004. That remains a sore spot for the four players who were with the Steelers in 2001 - nose tackle Casey Hampton and Chris Hoke, defensive end Aaron Smith, and wide receiver Hines Ward.

"Three in six years. We've been to five AFC Championships," Hampton said. "The two we didn't win and go to the Super Bowl, (New England) cheated.":applaudit::applaudit::applaudit:

Hampton was referring to Spygate. It was learned in 2007 that the Patriots had been videotaping opposing sidelines for several years in an effort to learn the opponent's defensive signals, a clear violation of NFL rules.

Included in the allegations were a videotape turned into the league from the Steelers' 24-17 loss in the AFC Championship in January 2002. New England went on to win its first Super Bowl following that victory.

The Patriots were eventually fined $250,000 and docked a first-round draft pick in 2008, and coach Bill Belechick was fined $500,000 for the violation.

But that doesn't mean the Steelers have forgotten.

"You talk about the Patriots and the run they went on, but we've been right there with them," Ward said. "(We've been to) five AFC Championship games, two Super Bowls and heading to our third. They don't mention us in that category."

A victory over the Packers would ease some of the pain from those two playoff losses.

"We could be looking at a whole lot more if that didn't happen," Hampton said. "You never know what could have been."

Odds and end zones

Safeties Troy Polamalu (ankle) and Will Allen (knee), center Maurkice Pouncey (ankle), wide receiver Emmanuel Sanders (foot) and tackle Jonathan Scott (ribs) did not practice Thursday. ... Defensive end Aaron Smith (triceps) was limited. ... Linebackers Erik Walden (ankle) and Frank Zombo (knee) did not practice for Green Bay.

LegendSteel
01-28-2011, 03:33 PM
Good then. Avenge those early decade losses and beat the Packers!

Atlanta Dan
01-28-2011, 03:34 PM
Hate to say it, but the Steelers bitching about New England reminds me of the 70s Cowboys complaining about not getting as much consideraton as the Steelers for the team of the 70s,or Harbaugh & the Ravens bitching about the Steelers, especially since the Steelers still lag in SB wins over the last 10 years and have been beaten like a mule by New England

They might want to hold off on this discussion until they hopefully win next week

plenewken
01-28-2011, 03:37 PM
The Patriots should have been stripped of their SB wins. They got out of it pretty much unharmed and this is unacceptable.

mesaSteeler
01-28-2011, 03:38 PM
The Patriots should have been stripped of their SB wins. They got out of it pretty much unharmed and this is unacceptable.
:applaudit::applaudit::applaudit::applaudit::appla udit::applaudit:

TRH
01-28-2011, 03:45 PM
The Patriots should have been stripped of their SB wins. They got out of it pretty much unharmed and this is unacceptable.


thats Goodell's close friend, Bob Kraft's team...and his personal (obvious) favorite team. what do you expect?

kirklandrules
01-28-2011, 03:48 PM
The Patriots should have been stripped of their SB wins. They got out of it pretty much unharmed and this is unacceptable.

Craft should have been stripped of the franchise and Belicheat should be washing the Steelers jocks (especially Hampton's). But then again, only rigorous NFL punishment is dished out to James Harrison. After all, the NFL is telling its fans that cheating for years and stealing championships really isn't as bad as playing tough football.

CargoJon
01-28-2011, 04:06 PM
Craft should have been stripped of the franchise and Belicheat should be washing the Steelers jocks (especially Hampton's). But then again, only rigorous NFL punishment is dished out to James Harrison. After all, the NFL is telling its fans that cheating for years and stealing championships really isn't as bad as playing tough football.

It's all about the shield. Stripping the Cheatriots of their SB titles due to cheating would have de-legitimized the NFL and shown the public that their biggest money-maker, the Super Bowl, had been a fraud.

Goodell wasn't touching that with a 10 foot pole.

Not that I don't disagree with you. I think their Lombardi's should have been stripped and Belichek given a 5 year ban from the league.

plenewken
01-28-2011, 04:44 PM
It's all about the shield. Stripping the Cheatriots of their SB titles due to cheating would have de-legitimized the NFL and shown the public that their biggest money-maker, the Super Bowl, had been a fraud.

Goodell wasn't touching that with a 10 foot pole.

Not that I don't disagree with you. I think their Lombardi's should have been stripped and Belichek given a 5 year ban from the league.

There are tons of athletes who have been stripped of their medals for doping or cheating, it never meant that the Olympic Games were a fraud.
You don't de-legitimize an organization when you sanction a proven cheater, au contraire.

Goodell and the Patriots are frauds, not the Superbowl

4xSBChamps
01-28-2011, 06:48 PM
Hate to say it, but the Steelers bitching about New England reminds me of the 70s Cowboys complaining about not getting as much consideraton as the Steelers for the team of the 70s,or Harbaugh & the Ravens bitching about the Steelers, especially since the Steelers still lag in SB wins over the last 10 years and have been beaten like a mule by New England

They might want to hold off on this discussion until they hopefully win next week

if Pittsburgh can win SB45, and possibly 2 of the next 4 with this core-group of players (making it 5 of 10, from 2005 to 2014), the Cheatriots will be nothing more than an after-thought to the Steelers

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SeinfeldNut
01-28-2011, 07:04 PM
Makes it even sweeter that the Patriots fell on their faces at home in the playoffs this year :chuckle:

LambertWardSteel
01-29-2011, 04:37 AM
It's all about the shield. Stripping the Cheatriots of their SB titles due to cheating would have de-legitimized the NFL and shown the public that their biggest money-maker, the Super Bowl, had been a fraud.

Goodell wasn't touching that with a 10 foot pole.

I tend to agree with this thinking.

On a side note, I took a look at the ESPN pats board to see if there was mention of this article. Sure enough it was posted. Reading through the thread confirmed my long held amazement at how they want to downplay this. If this had happened to the pats there'd never be an end to hearing about it. They protested their last SB because "Manning was in the grasp" during the Tyree completion. What if the Jets were sanctioned for illegally taping NE signals during the playoff game they lost 2 weeks ago? I'm sure they wouldn't sit around saying: it gave them no competitive advantage, Rex didn't know the rule, everybody does it, so waht--the Steelers took steroids in the 70's....

kirklandrules
01-29-2011, 06:04 AM
The silver lining in all this is the fact the Pats haven't won another title since their cheating was uncovered. Belicheat couldn't win his way out of a paperbag in Cleveland, goes to the Pats and is a genius ... only to be discovered a large cheating scheme he created. Now he hasn't won jack squat. Good job, doofus! :applaudit:

sharkweek
01-29-2011, 07:57 AM
Cheating or not, that illegal forward lateral on the blocked FG return for a TD from the Jan 02 game was the difference.

Almost as bad as the botched coin toss vs. the Lions on thanksgiving, but worse considering it was the AFCCG