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SteelKnight
02-04-2011, 10:48 PM
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DALLAS -- NFL.com's Dave Dameshek and Adam Rank break down the all-time rosters of the Pittsburgh Steelers and Green Bay Packers, two of the most storied -- and winningest -- franchises in NFL history. Rank is the home team, meaning he breaks down the Packers, and Dameshek puts together the ultimate Steelers team.

Here are the Steelers (starters in caps):
Quarterbacks

BEN ROETHLISBERGER, Terry Bradshaw, Kordell Stewart
That's right -- I've got Roethlisberger over Bradshaw. Let the bellyaching begin! Before you dash off angry missives about how dumb I am, consider that -- for all of Bradshaw's big-game greatness (proven by those four rings and two Super Bowl MVP trophies) -- he never had to overcome what Roethlisberger has: an atrocious offensive line. Roethlisberger won a Super Bowl two years ago behind that line and is now 60 minutes away from doing it again. The good news is, if Roethlisberger doesn't come out of the gate on fire, Bradshaw is there to take over. Bradshaw was no stranger to platooning early in his career, splitting snaps with Joe Gilliam. Why is Kordell the third-stringer? Because barring both the two guys ahead of him suffering mysterious MCL injuries, he won't be under center. In the meantime, he'll serve the offense well with a return to his more popular alter ego, "Slash." And besides, who else is there? We know what Neil O'Donnell does when the pressure is on in the big game.
Running backs

FRANCO HARRIS, JEROME BETTIS, Barry Foster, Willie Parker, Rocky Bleier, Merril Hoge
Franco -- maybe the most underrated Hall of Fame running back (yes, I realize that's an oxymoron) -- paired with the most durable big back ever, the Bus. Who's the fullback and who's the halfback? Who cares? Good luck stopping them. "Fast Willie" makes the team as our change-of-pace back, and Merrill Hoge will serve the team well as an out-of-the-backfield pass-catcher (that is, if he ever makes it onto the field). And good ol' Rocky? Well, he's there to provide inspiration and grit.

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Wide receivers

LYNN SWANN, JOHN STALLWORTH, Hines Ward, Santonio Holmes, Louis Lipps, Yancey Thigpen
Don't get caught up in their stats, fantasyheads -- Swann and Stallworth are two of the all-time best, especially in big games. You're probably more familiar with Swann's work because of the iconic midfield catch in Super Bowl X, but Stallworth made more than his share of huge plays on the big stage. The two fourth quarter bombs in XIV pulled that game out, and his two touchdown grabs in XIII -- one a then-Super Bowl-record 75-yard sprint, the other a twisting catch of a Bradshaw floater between two Cowboys DBs. Plus, Hines Ward?! And Santonio Holmes?! That makes three Super Bowl MVPs. Good luck stopping them. Wait ... did I say that already? Oh, and Yancy: that knocking you hear is Mike Wallace. Another couple seasons at this level, and he gets your spot.
Tight ends

HEATH MILLER, Bennie Cunningham, Eric Green
They block well, they catch even better. Anything else you want out of the position?
Offensive line

Tackles: LARRY BROWN, LEON SEARCY, Jon Kolb, Marvel Smith, Tunch Ilkin
Guards: DERMONTTI DAWSON, ALAN FANECA, Steve Courson, Carlton Haselrig
Center: MIKE WEBSTER
Webster is the "only" Hall of Famer in this group (with Dawson a finalist this year and Faneca a solid future candidate), but there's plenty of experience across the line. We can also expect Dawson (who played one season at guard before switching to center) and Searcy to play with additional fire because of the embarrassing lack of Super Bowl rings on their fingers.

Onto the defense, where the seemingly big question is: 4-3 or 3-4? But clearly, the correct answer is 3-4. Too many great LBs.

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Defensive line

Ends: MEAN JOE GREENE, L.C. GREENWOOD, Dwight White, Ernie Stautner
Tackles: CASEY HAMPTON, Gary Dunn, Fats Holmes
We're sliding Mean Joe (the NFL Network's top Steeler of all-time) over to end in the 3-4, where he'll combine with Hampton to form the most impenetrable duo in the history of football. Power sweep? Meet the Steel Curtain. If coach Vince Lombardi is foolish enough to try and run on this defense, his team will be lucky to break even. Literally. They'll have negative rushing yards. (Side note: I'm not sure if Holmes deserves to make the team over Aaron Smith, but in the name of justice, all members of the original Steel Curtain front four must to be on the team.)
Linebackers

Outside: JACK HAM, JAMES HARRISON, Joey Porter, Andy Russell
Inside: JACK LAMBERT, JAMES FARRIOR, Chad Brown, Levon Kirkland
Linebacker is unquestionably the richest position for the most successful organization of the Super Bowl Era. Unfortunately for guys like LaMarr Woodley, Bryan Hinkle, Kevin Greene, Jason Gildon, and David Little -- who'd be starting on other franchises' all-time Ds -- don't even make the cut on this dominant team.

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Defensive backs

Cornerbacks: MEL BLOUNT, ROD WOODSON, Ike Taylor, Dwayne Woodruff
Safeties: TROY POLAMALU, MIKE WAGNER, Donnie Shell, Carnell Lake
Poor Don Hutson. With zero chance of the Packers having success on the ground and no other worthy receivers (Antonio Freeman? Robert Brooks? Get serious!), the offensive production will have to come down to him. Unfortunately for Donny, he never went up against anyone like either Blount or Woodson, two of the best half-dozen corners to ever play. Ever. Wagner plays ballhawk, Lake provides versatility, Shell punishes anyone who dares to run downfield, and Polamalu dominates in which ever fashion the game dictates.
Special teams

Kicker: Gary Anderson
Punter: Craig Colquitt
Returners: Woodson/Lipps/Swann
I'd say the odds are better than 50/50 that the Steelers will get at least one touchdown on a return.
Coach

Chaz Noll
He's too often ignored by the national media when history's greatest coaches are discussed, but the man Myron Cope called the Emperor Chaz Noll the man most responsible for building the Steelers of the '70s (also known as: The best team ever).

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81e04a9d/article/roethlisberger-not-bradshaw-leads-steelers-alltime-team?module=HP_cp2

SteelKnight
02-05-2011, 01:28 AM
I'm glad Terry and Ben have patched it up because I don't want to see his face when he sees this. Terry was just jealous i believe and he wanted the respect from Ben. He does deserve it but he went about it in a childish way. I'm hoping the two can be supportive of each other now.

I agree with the list. I start Ben.

I'm still bitter with Faneca so I would Bench him. He can be on the team...the bench...lol I want Steeler heart.

One day Woodley will be on the list...that is if we resign him.

Glad to see Ike make the list.

I wonder how much better Carnel lake was compared to Ryan Clark.

Anybody missing?

El Nino
02-05-2011, 01:56 AM
QB - Bubby Brister
RB - Tim Worely
TE - Matt Spaeth
WR's - Dwight Stone, Limas Sweed
G - Kendall Simmons, Trai essex
T - Jonathan Scott, Jamain Stephens
C- Sean Mahan

PK - Kris Brown
P - Paul Ernster

MattsMe
02-05-2011, 02:24 AM
QB - Bubby Brister
RB - Tim Worely
TE - Matt Spaeth
WR's - Dwight Stone, Limas Sweed
G - Kendall Simmons, Trai essex
T - Jonathan Scott, Jamain Stephens
C- Sean Mahan

PK - Kris Brown
P - Paul Ernster

:thumbsup:

SteelKnight
02-05-2011, 02:43 AM
QB - Bubby Brister
RB - Tim Worely
TE - Matt Spaeth
WR's - Dwight Stone, Limas Sweed
G - Kendall Simmons, Trai essex
T - Jonathan Scott, Jamain Stephens
C- Sean Mahan

PK - Kris Brown
P - Paul Ernster

You can laugh all you want but when i was a kid, I had the Bubby Brister shirt...the one that talked about him and his 5 sisters. lolo I liked him because he rescued me from Mark Malone. He was like the Savior. He sucked but a kid has to believe. lol

QB -Kent Grahm -very mobile.
RB- Duce "Gray Sweats" Staley, Najah "Duece" Davenport,
TE- Mark Bruner -underrated
WR- Limus Sweed, Willie Reid, Danny Farmer

Spinlcrack
02-05-2011, 04:21 AM
QB: Bobby Layne
RB: John Henry Johnson
(honorable mention - Byron "Whizzer" White )

Both before the "model" our Steelers found 40 some years ago, but both generational players and HOF'ers

Great list! Go Steelers!!!!!

Curtain_of_Steel
02-05-2011, 08:09 AM
Perhaps Wallace has a huge Super Bowl and the myth of Holmes greatness goes away. If Holmes is there after a 3-4 years, than Wallace is a year away from knokcing him down.

Not bad on his picks.

1stcav02
02-05-2011, 08:32 AM
Greg Lloyd is on my list, somewhat of a short career but he was so dominate. Not much room at outside linebacker, but i'd put Lloyd in place of Chad Brown

4xSBChamps
02-05-2011, 09:24 AM
QB: Bobby Layne
RB: John Henry Johnson
(honorable mention - Byron "Whizzer" White )

Both before the "model" our Steelers found 40 some years ago, but both generational players and HOF'ers
Great list! Go Steelers!!!!!

further proof of the 'ESPN-ization' of today's sports fan... do these punktoids realize the game was played before 1975?

SteelKnight
02-05-2011, 09:49 AM
Greg Lloyd is on my list, somewhat of a short career but he was so dominate. Not much room at outside linebacker, but i'd put Lloyd in place of Chad Brown

We can add Greg Lloyd back in this year's draft (Jr.). I honestly think all the off the field issues hurt him (gun in sons mouth, gun to wife's head). This was after his career though. I'm afraid of him myself. I hope he doesn't kill himself or somebody else.

That aside, excellent point. he was dominant including 5 probowls and 3 all pros. He played OLB though so he wouldn't replace Chad Brown. Lloyd and Green were an awesome duo...with Kirkland inside. His career wasn't that short (12 seasons)...though could have been longer...true.

further proof of the 'ESPN-ization' of today's sports fan... do these punktoids realize the game was played before 1975?

Honestly, I am most interested in "Super bowl era" ...so from 66 season on. I am not discounting the earlier work but I like talking about:
-the complete modern NFL (not separate AFL)
-being able to talk about playoffs, Superbowls,
-knowing racial discrimination was decreasing so you were more likely dealing with the best of the best being allowed to play
-having more similar rules and more similar equipment.
-better stat collection as we get closer to the modern era

So I am not opposed to hearing who was an awesome WR in the 40s...but I take it with a grain of salt.

xli...
02-05-2011, 12:37 PM
QB - Bubby Brister
RB - Tim Worely
TE - Matt Spaeth
WR's - Dwight Stone, Limas Sweed
G - Kendall Simmons, Trai essex
T - Jonathan Scott, Jamain Stephens
C- Sean Mahan

PK - Kris Brown
P - Paul Ernster

:chuckle:

xli...
02-05-2011, 12:37 PM
QB - Bubby Brister
RB - Tim Worely
TE - Matt Spaeth
WR's - Dwight Stone, Limas Sweed
G - Kendall Simmons, Trai essex
T - Jonathan Scott, Jamain Stephens
C- Sean Mahan

PK - Kris Brown
P - Paul Ernster

No love for "Slash" ?

tube517
02-05-2011, 12:43 PM
I'd replace Bubby with Cliff Stoudt
WR should be Weegie Thompson and Gregg Garrity
Defense:

Huey Richardson and Alonzo Jackson lead the LB's
Secondary captained by Lee Flowers,

DB's Dewayne Washington and Chad Scott

QB - Bubby Brister
RB - Tim Worely
TE - Matt Spaeth
WR's - Dwight Stone, Limas Sweed
G - Kendall Simmons, Trai essex
T - Jonathan Scott, Jamain Stephens
C- Sean Mahan

PK - Kris Brown
P - Paul Ernster

Spinlcrack
02-05-2011, 11:17 PM
John Henry Johnson is 4th on Steelers all-time rushing list. Played for the Steelers until '65. Bobby Layne is 6th on Steelers all-time QB list. Played until '62. Neither far removed from Super Bowl era.

I thought "all-time" actually meant "all-time". My bad

Gawd...6:29pm cannot get here fast enough.

MasterOfPuppets
02-05-2011, 11:21 PM
joey porter over greg lloyd ??? i think NOT !!!

Neil-Still-Rules-14
02-06-2011, 03:31 AM
further proof of the 'ESPN-ization' of today's sports fan... do these punktoids realize the game was played before 1975?

Lol not to be a jerk...but not much good football was played in Pittsburgh before 1975 :P