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02-09-2011, 11:55 AM
Angry fans sue NFL, Cowboys over lost Super Bowl seats
DETROIT — Angry football fans have sued the National Football League and the Dallas Cowboys, saying they were denied seats to Sunday's Super Bowl despite having paid thousands of dollars for tickets.
The lawsuit was filed after the league admitted to mistakes that left about 400 paying fans unable to watch Super Bowl XLV in person — or able to see the field only on TV screens — and other Cowboys' season ticket-holders watching from temporary metal chairs with obstructed views.
Fans filed the lawsuit late Tuesday in federal court in Dallas, accusing the league and team with breach of contract, fraud and deceptive trade practices.
They are seeking class-action status, more than $5 million of damages and unspecified punitive damages.
The NFL and the Cowboys declined to comment on the lawsuit. Cowboys owner Jerry Jones also is a defendant in the case. :doh:
02-09-2011, 03:25 PM
Poor Jerry didnt make out on this one did he?.....:doh:
02-09-2011, 04:39 PM
It will be interesting to find out who was to blame for this. I mean they had how many years to plan for this Super Bowl.
Problem with joining the class action suit is I'm betting you have one of two options. Take the triple face and whatever else the NFL is offering or join the class action.Bird in the hand is worth two in the bush in my opinion on this one.
02-11-2011, 11:20 PM
Records: Cowboys waited months to seek seat permit
Posted: Friday, February 11, 2011 7:11 pm | Updated: 9:01 pm, Fri Feb 11, 2011.
Records: Cowboys waited months to seek seat permit
Associated Press | 0 comments
The Dallas Cowboys didn't obtain a permit to install temporary seating at Cowboys Stadium until about three weeks before the Super Bowl, despite being informed of Arlington's requirements five months ahead of the big game, according to records released by the city Friday. (The lawyers are going to have a field day with this! If I were one of these fans I'd sue the crap out Jones and the NFL. It's an open an shut case now. - mesa)
City and stadium officials then scrambled to prepare the temporary seating for the game between the Pittsburgh Steelers and Green Bay Packers, the records show, but about 1,250 of the seats were deemed unsafe _ and about 400 fans who had bought tickets with a face value of $800 had nowhere to sit.
E-mails between Ed Dryden, Arlington's chief building official, and Jack Hill, the stadium's general manager, show the city began asking about the permit last September but didn't receive a request for it until Jan. 13. The lack of a response during the intervening months prompted at least one reminder from Dryden.
"We are currently reviewing the other interior stadium items proposed for the Super Bowl," Dryden wrote Hill on Dec. 22. "The bleacher seating is noted as supplied by others and there are no details included with this permit set. We will appreciate either you or your vendor moving forward quickly with a permit application submitted to us for review and approval."
Dryden told The Associated Press on Friday that the seats could have been installed properly despite the delay in getting the plans to his office.
"It isn't a real complex project," he said. "There's not a lot of detail involved in the plan review, so it would have been possible."
A call to Hill by the AP was returned by a Cowboys spokesman who said the stadium official would have no comment.
The e-mails released by the city show Arlington fire officials attended a Jan. 29 meeting during which Hill informed the contractor hired by the team, Seating Solutions of Commack, N.Y., of 18 engineering and construction issues that needed to be addressed before the Feb. 6 game.
At 7:14 a.m. on game day, Dryden sent an e-mail to Jim Parajon, the city's director of building inspections, predicting trouble.
"Looks like we may be here until noon," he wrote. "There's still no absolute finality on the seat count. I think that the Cowboys are not going to correct certain items and assume the risk. This is not a good situation!"
("Assume the risk! No city would permit that and nor should they. It's a matter of public safety if those seats collapsed and people died. The city would have been liable if they had permitted the Cryboys to assume the risk. What a total clusterflop. Speaking as a Civil Engineer you just don't do business this way. All structural plans for seating like this have to be sealed by a PE (Professional Engineer) or they can not be used with out the city (and the taxpayers of the city), the Cryboys, and the NFL being completely liable for anything that may happen. - mesa)
Shortly after noon, Arlington assistant fire chief Jim Self sent an e-mail to two other assistant chiefs marked "seat update-confidential." In the e-mail, he indicated that Seating Solutions had walked off the job and that it was being handled by Manhattan Construction, the general contractor that built the stadium. (Now that is interesting I wonder why and did Seating Solutions lose their bond? - mesa)
"Maybe between 1,300 lost seats due to incomplete construction," Self wrote. "Working on it now. . Contractor did walk, but Manhattan taking over."
Phone and e-mail messages to Seating Solutions weren't immediately returned.
At a news conference Friday, deputy city manager Trey Yelverton said the city began assessing the situation during the late morning and early afternoon on the day of the game and concluded the temporary seats couldn't be used. (Absolutely the correct decision. It's the contractor's responsibility to get necessary permitting in time. - mesa)
The controversy has been a black eye for the NFL, which has given fans who lost their seats two options. One is a cash payment of $2,400 _ three times the face value of their tickets _ and a ticket to next year's Super Bowl. The other is a ticket to any future Super Bowl, along with round-trip airfare and hotel accommodations. (I wouldn't settle for this puny offer from the NFL, I'd sue them up to their eyebrows. - mesa)
At least two lawsuits have been filed on behalf of fans whose seats didn't exist or had obstructed views for the game that the Packers won 31-25.
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(What will most likely happen is the fans will sue and settle out court. Then the Cryboys and GC (General Contractor) will have to either settle or fight it out in court to see who picks up the bill. Depending on why Seating Solutions walked they may have to pick up either all or part of the tab as well. - mesa)
02-11-2011, 11:30 PM
02-12-2011, 10:26 PM
Jerry Jones' $5 million Super Bowl ticket
Jerry Jones' quest for the biggest Super Bowl went bust.
Michael J. Avenatti, the lawyer representing the group of fans displaced at the Super Bowl, joined ESPN Radio Dallas to talk about the suit and how they arrived at the $5 million figure.
If he was unsatisfied when he heard what the NFL was trying to do to accommodate the upset fans:
"Well actually I did not think that, my clients thought that and people again contacted me and said, 'Look, this is not right. This is not satisfactory' because in many instances people paid far more than what the NFL was offered for their tickets. In fact on the Wednesday before the Super Bowl the NFL Ticket Exchange, which is the official exchange for the NFL run by Ticketmaster, they issued a press release that the average ticket price that was sold was $4,118 and that the cheapest ticket, I think, was $2,900, was being offered. So the NFL knows full well that $2,400 does not cut it and that is before you get to the expenses people incurred to travel to Dallas to go to the game. No one is attempting to get rich from this lawsuit, not my clients and certainly not me. It is not that type of lawsuit. This is a legitimate case brought by people that merely want what they paid for and they want compensation for it."
How many clients he has and how they arrived at $5 million being adequate for compensation:
"Well it is approximately 1,000 people and the $5 million there is nothing magical about that number. It is likely to be in excess of $5 million. It was merely a number put into the complaint. We don't know what the full extent of the dollars is to be honest with you because, again, we are merely trying to get compensation for fans' out-of-pockets costs, whatever they paid for tickets plus their expenses and the NFL should step up and offer something for these fans for their inconvenience. It is really no different if you think about it than the NFL processing an expense report for Roger Goodell or many of the other executives that traveled to the Super Bowl. We merely want them to do the same thing for these fans."
If he has been able to figure out how something like this can happen:
"We have not but we are well on our way and we think as we delve into this we are going to find some facts that are likely to be pretty disturbing about what people knew and when they knew it. The fact of the matter is Cowboys Stadium has been a fantastic facility, state-of-the-art facility. It normally seats approximately 85,000 fans and frankly that should have been enough. Jerry Jones should have chosen quality over quantity and unfortunately he did not do so."
• Click here for a transcript of highlights from the interview.
02-13-2011, 12:01 AM
Does anyone really need a reason to sue the Cowboys? But they do have a real good reason this time... :applaudit:
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