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mesaSteeler
02-13-2011, 08:49 AM
Steelers' Ike Taylor ready to cash in?
Sports Xchange
LEN PASQUARELLI
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/NFL-offseason-tip-sheet-Ike-Taylor-Pittsburgh-Steelers-021111
Updated Feb 12, 2011 1:09 PM ET

Given their uncanny ability to draft, develop and advance players, the Pittsburgh Steelers rarely lose a veteran for whom they don't have a ready and able replacement. But the AFC champions might be out of luck in supplanting corner Ike Taylor if he departs via free agency.

Taylor's agent, Joel Segal, told The Sports Xchange this week that there have been "zero negotiations" to date and that he expects the eight-year veteran to be "a very hot guy" in free agency.

He might be right.

It could be time to break out of the closet those old, dusty, "I Like Ike" campaign buttons from the 1950s and polish 'em up.

Taylor has some of the poorest hands in the league among cornerbacks, and drops more than his share of would-be interceptions. But coaches, particularly defensive coordinator Dick LeBeau, regard him highly. He is the closest thing Pittsburgh has to a "shutdown" cornerback and is a terrific fit for the Steelers' system, a guy who is rarely out of position in coverage and plays the run well.

It's hard to say what the Steelers would do without Taylor, who will be an unrestricted free agent no matter the resolution of CBA discussions, and who seems destined to test the open market.

"I've been (in Pittsburgh) my whole career, and I'd like to finish with the Steelers," said Taylor, a fourth-round pick in 2003. "It's my home, and I really don't know anything else. But (stuff) happens, so we'll see."

Taylor signed a five-year, $22.5 million extension just before the start of the 2006 season, but that deal will expire, and it will likely cost the Steelers a lot more to keep him. Despite the success of Green Bay quarterback Aaron Rodgers in last week's title game, Taylor played pretty well in Super Bowl XLV. Rodgers clearly targeted corners Bryant McFadden and William Gay throughout the game. On one of the game's biggest plays, a third-and-10 completion to Greg Jennings up the seam, Taylor had excellent coverage, but Rodgers lofted the ball just over his finger tips.

Director of football operations Kevin Colbert acknowledged last week the Steelers are "definitely behind" on some negotiations because of their appearance in the Super Bowl, but emphasized Taylor is a priority for the club. However the team is expected to use a franchise tag on linebacker LaMarr Woodley, so retaining Taylor could be a stretch.

As of Thursday night there were no discussions planned as the Steelers, like many teams in the league, wait for CBA negotiations to play out.

Pittsburgh has drafted four cornerbacks in four years Gay (fifth round, 2007), Keenan Lewis (third round, 2009), Joe Burnett (fifth round, 2009) and Crezdon Butler (fifth round, 2010) and none seems ready enough yet to step in. Gay started 14 games in 2009, but was inadequate enough that the Steelers re-acquired McFadden in a trade. Gay is seen more as a nickel defender than a starter in the "base" defense.

Around the league

Corner market: So why might Taylor have a healthy market, even though he has just 11 interceptions in eight seasons, and has only once posted more than two in a campaign? For starters, Taylor is very durable, having missed just one start the past four seasons, and averaged 14.8 starts over the last six years.

And then there is the free agency cornerback class: Nnamdi Asomugha, who voided his contract with the Raiders, is going to cost a ton. Champ Bailey is 32 years old and at some point in the next three or four years will move inside to safety. Ronde Barber is 35 and everyone figures he's headed back to Tampa Bay. Antonio Cromartie is, well, Antonio Cromartie.

At 30 years old, set to turn 31 this spring, Taylor is a viable alternative who is a low-maintenance guy and one who knows how to win.

Two other corners on whom to keep an eye, according to one league pro scout: Carlos Rogers of Washington and Buffalo's Drayton Florence. Said the scout to The Sports Xchange: "(Florence) could be the surprise guy. He just turned 30, he's really pretty mature, and he's become a good player."

The veteran has only 14 interceptions in eight seasons, but has six years with double-digit passes defensed and plays good run support.

(Rest of the article is not about the Steelers - mesa)

PhantomJB93
02-13-2011, 01:08 PM
I'm okay with letting Ike go if we sign Nnamdi or Champ. But that won't happen, so if we let Ike go, then we're screwed.

Merchant
02-13-2011, 01:21 PM
4 cornerbacks in 4 years.. Interesting how what everyone perceives to be the team's biggest weakness gets the least amount of attention in the draft.

Farrior_roirraW
02-13-2011, 06:16 PM
I think I might cry if Ike goes.

Can anyone seriously imagine McF and Gay as the two starters?

I like Gay at nickel but damn.

thumper
02-13-2011, 07:13 PM
Ike is decent. Not top shelf. If he is going to garner
top $ I say use the first round on a top CB. We got a lot
of good value for a 4th round pick out of the guy, and this
is HIS time to get PAID. He won't get the huge bucks after
this contract. Go, get paid man, thank you for your work. If
Pgh can't pay him even 90% of what some other team will,
he's got to roll. He'd be stupid not to.

Get that big signing bonus. And you are set for life. (Except
for the fact that the bankers are purposely destroying our
economy and currency. Better put the jack in gold after you
get it, bro.)

harrison'samonster
02-13-2011, 07:59 PM
I've got to imagine that if the Steelers weren't planning on working agressively to keep Taylor, they would have somebody else who could come in and take over at CB. Since they don't seem to have that player, I would guess they are planning to resign him.

PhantomJB93
02-13-2011, 09:07 PM
You know, it's always kind of surprised me how Lebeau was a HOF corner, yet he seems to put such little emphasis on the position in his scheme and never seems to lobby to draft them early (because at this point I think he has enough influence that if he told Tomlin and Colbert he wanted a first round corner, we would draft a first round corner)

GameTime55
02-13-2011, 09:32 PM
Steelers rarely move up in the Draft..right??

In last decade or more or so it has been twice right..Troy and Santonio and it worked out nicely for the most part I would say.


So...is this the year we move up and say go Cornerback and see if we can it dead on ..

Im not suggesting its the right thing to do since its a bit far fetched unless he is a complete lock but if so the two that I think are going to be gone before we are up are Peterson and Prince.

So are Peterson and/or Prince a "LOCK" and is this a conceivable move that could benefit Pitt.

no intent on bumping at all here ..just a thought on the whole Ike discussion.

:tt02:

PhantomJB93
02-13-2011, 09:58 PM
Steelers rarely move up in the Draft..right??

In last decade or more or so it has been twice right..Troy and Santonio and it worked out nicely for the most part I would say.


So...is this the year we move up and say go Cornerback and see if we can it dead on ..

Im not suggesting its the right thing to do since its a bit far fetched unless he is a complete lock but if so the two that I think are going to be gone before we are up are Peterson and Prince.

So are Peterson and/or Prince a "LOCK" and is this a conceivable move that could benefit Pitt.

no intent on bumping at all here ..just a thought on the whole Ike discussion.

:tt02:

We'd have to give up A LOT to get Peterson or Prince, they're both just about locks to go top ten, Peterson's a lock for top 5 and at the very least Prince won't get past Detroit at 13...however they are both tremendous talents at CB and both are probably the best CB prospects we've seen coming out of college since Revis so it could be worth it, either of them could be the next Polamalu or Woodson...:noidea:

Atlanta Dan
02-14-2011, 08:36 AM
Assuming the Steelers put the franchise tag on Woodley, this observatioin from Peter King in his MMQB column today explains why any new deal for Ike Taylor, in Pittsburgh or somewhere else, may not happen for some time

I think it's fruitless to talk, write and theorize about what teams are going to do in free agency when there's a very good chance there won't be free agency. Folks, this labor fight is going to be a long one. I believe it'll be Labor Day, at least, before a solution is found. Given that scenario, how can the league possibly say: We're playing real games in 21 days, and so you 495 free agents, go spend the next week flying from team to team, finding a home, and sure, you'll be ready to play two weeks after you sign with your new team in a new scheme. Surrrrre.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/peter_king/02/13/mmqb/4.html

TRH
02-14-2011, 08:46 AM
With that kind of first comment from an agent, he we go.......doesn't look good.
Agents can look out for the good of players but they can also be a supreme pain in the a** (usually). Once they're almost exclusively involved, forget it...
Also, Ike himself : "stuff happens".
Bye.

Atlanta Dan
02-14-2011, 09:52 AM
With that kind of first comment from an agent, he we go.......doesn't look good.
Agents can look out for the good of players but they can also be a supreme pain in the a** (usually). Once they're almost exclusively involved, forget it...
Also, Ike himself : "stuff happens".
Bye.

It's a business and you are not going to compromise your negotiting position by saying you will take whatever the Steelers will offer since you know they will be "fair."

IMO it actually is harder to retain a player by anticipating the player will trade off maxing out on a new contract with whatever bottom feeder team will pay the most against a chance to get to the Super Bowl once the player has won a ring - after achieving that goal some Steelers players greater than Taylor have gone for the $$$ and been a lot more disruptive about wanting to get paid while they were still with teh Steelers than Taylor has been (e.g. - Alan Faneca and Joey Porter)

kirklandrules
02-14-2011, 11:39 AM
You know, it's always kind of surprised me how Lebeau was a HOF corner, yet he seems to put such little emphasis on the position in his scheme and never seems to lobby to draft them early (because at this point I think he has enough influence that if he told Tomlin and Colbert he wanted a first round corner, we would draft a first round corner)

Don't make so many assumptions. The Steelers have a system for how they draft and you can't think that they are going to disrupt that system to ensure Lebeau is happy. And don't think Lebeau is the type of guy who is going to make demands. He understands the larger picture and he knows how he fits into the scheme of the Steelers draft strategy. Not sure we know if he does or does not "lobby" for players prior to or during the draft. I've never heard reports that any assistant coach lobbies for players unless that player is actually drafted.