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coachspeak33
05-10-2006, 09:07 AM
I found this information on the Jags website. It was a recent Q&A with their senior editor. He had some interesting thoughts on the new Rooney in charge... I wanted to get some opinions on his opinion.... here it is:

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Broc from Annamoriah, WV: Can you explain what the Steelers are doing with Marvel Smith? He is making the NFL minimum in salary each year but they are spicing it up with bonuses. How does that work and is it a smart move?

Vic: In my opinion, what the Steelers are doing is a formula for disaster. They are re-structuring contracts by turning salary into signing bonus, which allows that signing bonus to be spread out over the life of the contract. It's what sunk the Jaguars. The Steelers are tight against the salary cap for two reasons:

1.) They threw around a lot of money a couple of years ago to keep their team together, and some of that money was wasted on guys who are no longer with the team.
2.) Ben Roethlisberger reached incentives in his rookie season that are going to cost the Steelers about $4 million in unexpected cap room in 2005.

I figured '05 would be a ?step back? season for the Steelers, as they got their cap back on firm ground for '06. That would've been Dan Rooney's approach, I'm sure, but Rooney turned the team over to his son a couple of years ago and the son apparently is not a chip off the old block. The son believes it's time the Steelers win another Super Bowl and he thinks his team has what it takes to do that. So, with that in mind, he's pushing money onto future caps for the purpose of keeping players such as Jeff Hartings, whose salary spikes this year. Hartings was recently re-structured, too. The Steelers got some help from Jerome Bettis, who agreed to another monster pay cut, and the Steelers aren't re-structuring to the point that they're going to kill their cap, but these aren't the Steelers I know.
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Don t really know what to make of this ... but he does have a point Rooney Jr. does seem to have a slightly more proactive approach to the family business.

clevestinks
05-10-2006, 09:22 AM
i WONDERED myself if we were mortgaging the future, but we seem to stay really good over long periods of time. Lets hope we will continue this with JR

Big D
05-10-2006, 09:32 AM
i've always wondered about the steelers salary cap situation myself. We arent the redskins we dont dump millions into the free agent market every year. Our steeler model is built through the draft we dont have a grip of superstars are overrated overaged players "see the choakland faiders"

Suitanim
05-10-2006, 09:34 AM
When was this article published? It's got elements in it that make me believe it was just published, but this guy apparently doesn't know we won the Super Bowl, or that Bettis retired.

I also believe the Steelers received some relief from the league in Ben's bonuses last year, because there are bonuses that are expected to be reached that count one way against the cap, and bonuses that aren't expected to be reached, and Ben's certainly fell into the latter category.

All in all, I wouldn't put a whole lot of stock in this...

coachspeak33
05-10-2006, 12:07 PM
Not real sure of the publishing date... I was just trying to find a list of the players salaries for the upcoming season and found it.... thought it might interest some on this site

HburgXL06
05-10-2006, 12:59 PM
I want to hear more about this. Not only because I was always under the impression that the Steelers are team that doesn't overpay to keep players who they deem "superstars" but rather moderately pays players that other teams would not even consider usin and the Steelers system turns them into superstars with how they are used on the team. I would hate to see the Steelers fall down to the bottom on the league in future years because of this. Keep me updated.

BuFu

Haiku_Dirtt
05-10-2006, 02:56 PM
When was this article published? It's got elements in it that make me believe it was just published, but this guy apparently doesn't know we won the Super Bowl, or that Bettis retired.

I also believe the Steelers received some relief from the league in Ben's bonuses last year, because there are bonuses that are expected to be reached that count one way against the cap, and bonuses that aren't expected to be reached, and Ben's certainly fell into the latter category.

All in all, I wouldn't put a whole lot of stock in this...


And the Steelers Org is smashing records with their merchandising which will without question spill over into this season.

And the new deal raised the cap limits.

Midnightwriter07
05-10-2006, 07:00 PM
i dont see how could be recent because our salary cap for next year beore signing some back up players we were around 15 million under for 07 .... we were tight this year until the cap increased and we got some breathing room to sign Clark... but i have never heard anywhere we were in trouble in the future so i would have to think was based on last years team because at the end of the season we were very tight agaisnt cap.

rowedf
05-10-2006, 08:40 PM
That makes no sense at all to me. By the time the deadline hits, most teams are tight against the cap, the steelers are restructuring people and spraeding their bonus money out, but gesh, they aren't giving these guys 10-15 mill in signing bonuses, it's more like a couple million up front pro-rated over the rest of the term ...ok, say you do that too 3-4 guys, what is that 8-10 million over 3-4 years ...how is that a formula for disaster?

That article seems really old.

Midnightwriter07
05-10-2006, 08:46 PM
Plus you haveto remember we signed our own played to mediocre deals and didnt bring in anyone and paying them out the ass. I seriously recall being wayyyy under the cap for next year because we have Porter, Troy, Haggins, Taylor and a few others i am sure to make secisions on after this year and is why we are so far under cap. If we wernt ... there would be no way that we could keep any of them. PLUSSSSSS... we didnt draft a high first round pick and with no second round pick... all of our draft picks are very cheap as well. Plus Plus... Staley and hartings could be gone after this year as well... so i really think that the article had to be very late in season and maybe for this upcoming year we are a lil tight but have most everyone signed with nobody really left but rookies and a few back up F/A if we choose but i would hardly call that morgaging the future.

tony hipchest
05-10-2006, 08:50 PM
the article is from before last season and tha author is currently eating his words and admitting he dont know jack.

Steel Pit
05-11-2006, 04:45 AM
Spreading the money out throughout a players contract is never a problem if you keep the d a m n player. Whoever wrote that article is silly sighted. The Steelers save a ton of money by drafting quality players that produce on the field as opposed to what a lot of teams do which is drafting crappy players that never produce which in turn forces those teams to the free agent market to overpay for another teams quality player. It's a lot easier on the salary cap when you're able to draft studs i.e... Casey Hampton, Troy Polomalu, Ben Roethlisberger, Heath Miller,and Santonio Holmes and sign them to a contract at rookie salary rates. Besides that, nearly all contending teams are going to be salary cap tight. If a team has a large surplus of cap money then you can bet that they certainly SUCK!