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thumper
04-27-2011, 01:48 PM
http://bleacherreport.com/tb/b99YZ

Yes, we love our Pouncy. That pick turned out to be a very
good pick. He came in and not only played lights out, but
also has already proven to be a leader, and, no matter what,
you need leaders to compete for a ring. Yes, he has a twin
brother who is projected to be the best OG in the draft. Yes,
it would be cool having both brothers on our OL.

But F ____NO_____ is OG enough priority that we take on
in the first round, not to mention, having to give up picks to
move up and get him. This article that came out better be
a smoke screen (and this clowns think playing these poker
games some how gives them a better chance of having a good
draft; I don't see it as legit, but they must play their game.)

Stop the madness (If they are seriously thinking about moving
up to draft him.) We had 3rd and 4th stringers playing OT last
year and our starters are below average to being with. Our CB
situation is in dire need to upgrading, and that is before we lose
Ike. OGs are rarely worthy of 1st round picks to BEGIN with. (I know,
Faneca, etc. but generally speaking OG is not the way to go in the 1st.)

Kemo is a dumb troglodyte who makes mistakes every game and
whiffs on some pass blocking for sure. But he is serviceable. We can
still win rings with him in there. Colon could easily move to RG and
actually excel there better than he does playing OT. And then we'd have
depth with our back ups. OG is NOT the best way to improve this team.
It might seem cute to have the twins playing next to each other, but not
so cute that I'd ruin the team's future over it.

Grab Aaron Williams and call it a day. He's big, fast enough and has
instincts to cover. In the 2nd there will be some quality prospects at
OT and DE at our pick. I will be really pissed if they don't go CB and
OL in the first two picks.

rangerman
04-27-2011, 02:22 PM
so will i man

Riddle_Of_Steel
04-27-2011, 03:29 PM
Now tell us how you REALLY feel about drafting Mike Pouncey.....

PhantomJB93
04-27-2011, 03:55 PM
Pouncey is the only non-cornerback I fully support taking in the first or trading up for. I desparately want a first round talent at corner too, but I will fully support the FO if they trade up for Pouncey instead, as long as its not a "Ricky Williams-Ditka" type trade where we lose everything for him. Id be cool with, say, swapping firsts with somebody and giving up our 3rd and a late rounder to move into the teens and take him.

Picture this: if we draft Pouncey, our Oline could go Starks-Pouncey-Pouncey-Colon-Adams. That could make our offense deadly enough to make up for the weak secondary.

I don't think any other Olineman would be a good enough pick to take over a corner tho.

If we do trade up for Pouncey, and Ras-I Dowling slips into the mid second, I would also stronly consider trading for him. I know it would require giving up A LOT of picks between the two trades but I think they'd both be big enough difference makers that it would be completely worth it.

thumper
04-27-2011, 04:06 PM
Pouncey is the only non-cornerback I fully support taking in the first or trading up for. I desparately want a first round talent at corner too, but I will fully support the FO if they trade up for Pouncey instead, as long as its not a "Ricky Williams-Ditka" type trade where we lose everything for him. Id be cool with, say, swapping firsts with somebody and giving up our 3rd and a late rounder to move into the teens and take him.

Picture this: if we draft Pouncey, our Oline could go Starks-Pouncey-Pouncey-Colon-Adams. That could make our offense deadly enough to make up for the weak secondary.

I don't think any other Olineman would be a good enough pick to take over a corner tho.

If we do trade up for Pouncey, and Ras-I Dowling slips into the mid second, I would also stronly consider trading for him. I know it would require giving up A LOT of picks between the two trades but I think they'd both be big enough difference makers that it would be completely worth it.

We would have to grab Dowling because word is the he can tackle. :banging:

mikegrimey
04-27-2011, 04:37 PM
I think the Pouncey talk will amount to a bunch of nothing personally; however, I disagree with you that no OG is worth taking in the first round. Having 2 spots on our o-line be GOOD, and I mean GOOD, for years to come would be awesome.

In the first round it is always best to try to get the best sure thing you can, even if it isn't your highest priority.


As for the rest, I've seen a lot of your posts constantly accusing the steelers front office and coaches of all types of "madness" and stupidity, you talk about these guys like they've been running a franchise kin to the bengals or redskins. I'm not saying they don't make their mistakes, but you're rambling on like their blind and leading the franchise into doom at every turn.

SacknificentStew56
04-27-2011, 04:57 PM
I don't believe we'll go with a cornerback let alone trade up for one. I think we run with the best available player at that particular moment when we're on the clock. It would be nice to reunite the twins but I doubt we break a sweat trying to get him.

thumper
04-27-2011, 05:25 PM
I think the Pouncey talk will amount to a bunch of nothing personally; however, I disagree with you that no OG is worth taking in the first round. Having 2 spots on our o-line be GOOD, and I mean GOOD, for years to come would be awesome.

In the first round it is always best to try to get the best sure thing you can, even if it isn't your highest priority.


As for the rest, I've seen a lot of your posts constantly accusing the steelers front office and coaches of all types of "madness" and stupidity, you talk about these guys like they've been running a franchise kin to the bengals or redskins. I'm not saying they don't make their mistakes, but you're rambling on like their blind and leading the franchise into doom at every turn.

Well booo hooo hooo. I am allowed to assert my opinions just
like anyone else. If you don't like them then don't read them. Or, we could send
a waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaammmbulance your direction.

mikegrimey
04-27-2011, 06:30 PM
Just as you have the freedom to express your opinions, no matter how stupid, I have the freedom to point out their stupidity, no matter how obvious. If you don't like it I recommend either not reading my posts or not posting stupid shit.

Your the main one whining on here, just another talking muff who couldn't coach a peewee team to a winning record posing as a serious thinker.

thumper
04-27-2011, 06:46 PM
Just as you have the freedom to express your opinions, no matter how stupid, I have the freedom to point out their stupidity, no matter how obvious. If you don't like it I recommend either not reading my posts or not posting stupid shit.

Your the main one whining on here, just another talking muff who couldn't coach a peewee team to a winning record posing as a serious thinker.

Your infantile rant aside, I am sure you have coached many
Pop Warner teams to impressive victories. :rofl:

pete74
04-27-2011, 07:52 PM
well said except for the fact that Williams will never be a great corner in the NFL. Saftey is possible but not corner

mikegrimey
04-27-2011, 08:07 PM
Your infantile rant aside, I am sure you have coached many
Pop Warner teams to impressive victories. :rofl:

The difference is I don't portend to have all the answers, you do, while constantly musing on the fictional missteps of a franchise.

55BaileyFan
04-27-2011, 08:21 PM
I don't understand why we keep talking about him either. Kiper himself said a lot of the hype from all teams is because of how well Pouncey did for us this season. Does anyone remember how crappy he played against Miami (OH) at the start of the season?

He is good but I think there are tons of lineman that will be really good. Danny Watkins of Baylor, John Moffitt of Wisconsin, Stefen Wisniewski of Penn State. Corner is a huge need and we need more defensive lineman to help with MORE pass rush.

I wouldn't waste any picks trading up, maybe trade back and get a few more picks to fill needs.

55BaileyFan
04-27-2011, 08:24 PM
Pouncey is the only non-cornerback I fully support taking in the first or trading up for. I desparately want a first round talent at corner too, but I will fully support the FO if they trade up for Pouncey instead, as long as its not a "Ricky Williams-Ditka" type trade where we lose everything for him. Id be cool with, say, swapping firsts with somebody and giving up our 3rd and a late rounder to move into the teens and take him.

Picture this: if we draft Pouncey, our Oline could go Starks-Pouncey-Pouncey-Colon-Adams. That could make our offense deadly enough to make up for the weak secondary.

I don't think any other Olineman would be a good enough pick to take over a corner tho.

If we do trade up for Pouncey, and Ras-I Dowling slips into the mid second, I would also stronly consider trading for him. I know it would require giving up A LOT of picks between the two trades but I think they'd both be big enough difference makers that it would be completely worth it.

You think Kemo will be out and Colon will start? Colon has more penalties by himself than any two other players on our line combined the last two years. Colon is a TERRIBLE lineman.

Starks-Kemoeatu-Pouncey-Pouney-Adams

Besides, we will not go grab him. With this draft there will be pick for pick trades only and we only have seven. Don't think its gonna happen. There are too many lineman that we could take in the first two rounds.

PhantomJB93
04-27-2011, 11:53 PM
I don't understand why we keep talking about him either. Kiper himself said a lot of the hype from all teams is because of how well Pouncey did for us this season. Does anyone remember how crappy he played against Miami (OH) at the start of the season?

He is good but I think there are tons of lineman that will be really good. Danny Watkins of Baylor, John Moffitt of Wisconsin, Stefen Wisniewski of Penn State. Corner is a huge need and we need more defensive lineman to help with MORE pass rush.

I wouldn't waste any picks trading up, maybe trade back and get a few more picks to fill needs.

I agree hes not as good as Maurkice, but I think a major point that's being thrown out the window here is the fact he'd be playing with his brother. By himself, no he's not on the same level, but chemistry is HUGE, HUGE on the Oline, and playing next to his twin would be an intangible factor that could literally take his play from "good" to "elite." Besides, guard next to Maurkice was where he played his entire Florida career before this season and what elevated the twins to such a high status, being thrown in at center without his brother by his side was a huge change and noone should be surprised by his decline in play this past season. I honestly think he'd play at a Pro-Bowl level for us, but not for anybody else.

And Im guessing youre a Kemo fan from your sig, he's definitely serviceable but Colon would be a HUGE improvement over him at guard and I don't really see how anyone can legitimately argue otherwise...

ricardisimo
04-28-2011, 12:35 AM
It's not going to happen, of course, but Tennessee has said it wants to trade its pick, and I'd like to see us take Amukamara. :noidea:

I'll go back to sniffing my glue now.

ebsteelers
04-28-2011, 09:45 AM
lol. if we traded up that high i'd shit, unless we were getting patrick peterson,

i dont want us to trade up, i'd rather stay put or trade back , it sucks with the draft over multiple days taht they wouldnt be picking until tomorrow,


hopefully one of those qbs is there that someone wants, and we get trade back and get some future picks, maybe a 1 next year, and then a 2 this year

and with both picks this year we take

a cb, and line men

and can still build for the future, last year the pats got a first or 2nd not sure but it was for a 3rd round pick, i gotta believe we need to start doing that to get younger

finesward
04-28-2011, 01:42 PM
Well booo hooo hooo. I am allowed to assert my opinions just
like anyone else. If you don't like them then don't read them. Or, we could send
a waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaammmbulance your direction.

stillmill is that you? :wave:

thumper
04-28-2011, 04:33 PM
The difference is I don't portend to have all the answers, you do, while constantly musing on the fictional missteps of a franchise.

I don't pretend to have all the answers, but I __KNOW__
I have some of them. I am not one of these empty suits who
genuflects at NFL personnel and assume all their decisions
must be wiser than the way I see it. All to often, those who are
empty suits working for others end up feeling that they can't
know as much as the "official" people know and that is a sad,
losing way to live. Then again, some really don't have the organic
vision to have more accurate vision than others, so they are
where they should be.

Be well.

Live life. Love life.

The Steelers are a fantastic, well-run franchise. But does that
mean they are all-knowing and don't make errors? F no. Trying
to run a team without ANY full backs and then using flunkie
back up TEs as the lead blockers instead is a moronic way
to operate. You don't have to be a coach or NFL-employed person
to realize this.

thumper
04-28-2011, 04:41 PM
lol. if we traded up that high i'd shit, unless we were getting patrick peterson,

i dont want us to trade up, i'd rather stay put or trade back , it sucks with the draft over multiple days taht they wouldnt be picking until tomorrow,


hopefully one of those qbs is there that someone wants, and we get trade back and get some future picks, maybe a 1 next year, and then a 2 this year

and with both picks this year we take

a cb, and line men

and can still build for the future, last year the pats got a first or 2nd not sure but it was for a 3rd round pick, i gotta believe we need to start doing that to get younger

Looking at the top 10-15 likely players to go that high, there are only a
few that I feel are any more likely to excel than players sloted to be taken
in the 2nd, 3rd or even 4th. I don't like any of the QBs that will be taken in the
top 10, as far as being any more likely to succeed than the 2nd tier guys.

Only Peterson, Von Miller and Dareus - and maybe AJ Green - are worthy
of taking, with confidence, in the top 10. The others are still great players
but not so heads and shoulders above the guys high up in their positions.
How safe and iron clad is Cam Newton? Not much more a safe pick
than Demarcus Russel, in my opinion. Or Ryan Leaf. And yet Cam might
go #1 over all.

Look at much of the Pgh's starting roster. Not many were top
10 picks. Almost none.

Keisel, Harrison, Aaron Smith, Woodley, Ike, Ward, Wallace, et al.

mikegrimey
04-28-2011, 04:43 PM
I don't pretend to have all the answers, but I __KNOW__
I have some of them. I am not one of these empty suits who
genuflects at NFL personnel and assume all their decisions
must be wiser than the way I see it. All to often, those who are
empty suits working for others end up feeling that they can't
know as much as the "official" people know and that is a sad,
losing way to live. Then again, some really don't have the organic
vision to have more accurate vision than others, so they are
where they should be.

Be well.

Live life. Love life.

The Steelers are a fantastic, well-run franchise. But does that
mean they are all-knowing and don't make errors? F no. Trying
to run a team without ANY full backs and then using flunkie
back up TEs as the lead blockers instead is a moronic way
to operate. You don't have to be a coach or NFL-employed person
to realize this.


You pretty much rehashed what I said before about the franchise being good but not perfect, only to go back into your lunacy and posturing over your suppossed knowledge, while actually having very little insight.

Your diarrhea about the fullback is indicative of this, you're just running water brah.
I did get a chuckel at your pretensious statement "some don't have organic vision to have more accurate vision than others"

hihihihih, good luck trying to tell anyone what that means.

shovelnose
04-28-2011, 09:38 PM
Well no more Pouncy talk. He went to Miami.

Fire Arians
04-28-2011, 09:49 PM
well now i can hope he's a bust :)

finesward
04-28-2011, 11:45 PM
You pretty much rehashed what I said before about the franchise being good but not perfect, only to go back into your lunacy and posturing over your suppossed knowledge, while actually having very little insight.

Your diarrhea about the fullback is indicative of this, you're just running water brah.
I did get a chuckel at your pretensious statement "some don't have organic vision to have more accurate vision than others"

hihihihih, good luck trying to tell anyone what that means.

lol wut??

http://bluntobject.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/lol-wut.jpg