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thumper
05-13-2011, 02:15 PM
Would this make you nervous or do you think Smith is spent?
I think he took last year off, knowing they couldn't win. If he is
on a contender, he might go back to being the insane baller
he was before last year. When he is on, he is da bomb. A combination
of him, Heap, Boldin, Rice, et al could spell trouble for Pgh.

I also think Balt. has been watching Pgh lose to passing teams
(while beating rushing teams like themselves and NYJ) and
is altering their attack to be heavier on the pass in order to beat us.

Source: CarolinaGrowl.com - Steve Reed

Updating previous reports, Carolina Panthers WR Steve Smith is interested in playing for the Baltimore Ravens next season.

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The Ravens want to get to and win the Super Bowl, and Smith could be a key to doing just that. They've added several weapons in the passing game over the last two years, but adding a veteran like Smith may be the icing on the cake. They are also letting Joe Flacco audible more at the line of scrimmage. The team is putting their hopes on Flacco and the passing game in 2011.

rangerman
05-13-2011, 03:35 PM
we will be susceptible to passing teams until we alter our defense alittle and get better corners.

DanRooney
05-13-2011, 03:45 PM
I'm more scared of Torrey Smith. Baltimore doesn't need another possession receiver. They need speed.

55BaileyFan
05-13-2011, 04:10 PM
I'm more scared of Torrey Smith. Baltimore doesn't need another possession receiver. They need speed.

I'm not scared of any of them. They went and got Anquan...hell with him we almost beat them with a third string QB. Teams have been stacking up on us for years and it doesn't make a difference. I don't think Smith will go because they are now too crowded for this TO jr. But I don't care who they have it won't help them that much against us.

thumper
05-13-2011, 05:28 PM
I'm more scared of Torrey Smith. Baltimore doesn't need another possession receiver. They need speed.

Unless he got a lot slower, Smith is no where near a possession
WR. He has been a huge play maker in his career. He has made
endless deep TD grabs for Carolina, at least up to last season.
No way is he a possession WR, if anything he is the exact
opposite of that.

thumper
05-13-2011, 05:30 PM
I'm not scared of any of them. They went and got Anquan...hell with him we almost beat them with a third string QB. Teams have been stacking up on us for years and it doesn't make a difference. I don't think Smith will go because they are now too crowded for this TO jr. But I don't care who they have it won't help them that much against us.

A Steve Smith, in his previous state - and I am not sure if he can still play
to that level - would make a difference. He was a huge play maker. Give
Balt. just one more TD per game against us, that this guy could provide, and we
lose a lot of the games that we won vs. these guys.

thumper
05-13-2011, 05:32 PM
we will be susceptible to passing teams until we alter our defense alittle and get better corners.

I think more than ever. When you get busted up in a setting as huge
as the Super Bowl, every team will take note of what GB did to our
pass D. Now every team will try to repeat that, but may or may not
have the QB and WRs to do so. It looks like Balt. is trying to upgrade
their passing game to beat us. We have been a thorn in their side
for a long time. They know they must get past Pgh to make it to the SB.

steelerchad
05-13-2011, 09:42 PM
I wouldn't fear Steve Smith at this point of his career. Remember, Flacco's throwing to him not Rodgers or Brady.

55BaileyFan
05-13-2011, 11:25 PM
There shouldn't be any fear of any player in any stage of their career. I don't care how many playmakers you have on offense or defense, we find ways to win and thats all that matters.

thumper
05-14-2011, 01:55 AM
I wouldn't fear Steve Smith at this point of his career. Remember, Flacco's throwing to him not Rodgers or Brady.

:hatsoff:

BLACK_AND_YELLOW
05-14-2011, 07:49 AM
Let Balt get Steve Smith it will be the same thing like last year ravens thought they could win a championship with Anquan Boldin and they still could not get past the steelers but hey i like seeing ravens fan think they will do something every year and then they choke up in the playoffs lol

55BaileyFan
05-14-2011, 10:09 AM
Let Balt get Steve Smith it will be the same thing like last year ravens thought they could win a championship with Anquan Boldin and they still could not get past the steelers but hey i like seeing ravens fan think they will do something every year and then they choke up in the playoffs lol

My point exactly. Baltimore can "re-arm" all they want. The Steelers just seem to win big games when we need them to the most.

DanRooney
05-15-2011, 01:35 AM
Unless he got a lot slower, Smith is no where near a possession
WR. He has been a huge play maker in his career. He has made
endless deep TD grabs for Carolina, at least up to last season.
No way is he a possession WR, if anything he is the exact
opposite of that.

Of course Smith got slower. He's 32 now.

steeltheone
05-15-2011, 07:59 AM
Of course Smith got slower. He's 32 now.

Smith would be an animal in Baltimore....Hope this does not happen....Smith, Boldin would be hard to stop...

ricksteelers55
05-15-2011, 02:31 PM
Steve Smith would make the Ravens better in terms of weapons,but you still have to gameplan properly in order to make it useful and more than that you have to EXECUTE the plays properly which I'm really not sure about Flacco.He's not a terrible QB but IMO he's overrated.

DanRooney
05-15-2011, 07:36 PM
You guys do realize the last time we played Baltimore they were held to 125 yards passing, right? Leading the way was Anquan Boldin himself and his -2 receiving yards.

thumper
05-16-2011, 12:44 PM
My point exactly. Baltimore can "re-arm" all they want. The Steelers just seem to win big games when we need them to the most.

As they say in the investing game, "Past Performance is No Guarantee of Future Results." If we (the team) assume we will always win the biggest games vs.
Balt. is the season it ends. Remember when Dallas always beat SF? That
changed. Then it changed back again. Remember the Pistons always beat
Mike Jordan in the Bulls? How did that end up again? Remember when the Pats
always beat the Colts in the play offs? That changed and Indy went to the SB
when it did.

A motivated Steve Smith could deliver that one extra TD a game vs. Pgh
that would swing the advantage over to Balt. For sure? No. But it could. Let's
not forget: You beat Pgh with passing the ball. If they upgrade that attack, it
could lead to our doom.

thumper
05-16-2011, 12:46 PM
Of course Smith got slower. He's 32 now.

They haven't had a QB in years. I mean, virtually NO ONE at QB. What
team had a worst QB unit the last few years? We simply don't know
what SS has left. Also, he even admitted he wasn't motivated to try
his best the last year. He stopped caring - no hope for a ring. But
with Balt? Could be dangerous.

Fire Arians
05-16-2011, 02:28 PM
im not nervous, flacco isn't an 'elite' qb. new england doesnt necessarily have burners at the WR position but look what brady still did to us

steelerchad
05-16-2011, 03:18 PM
They haven't had a QB in years. I mean, virtually NO ONE at QB. What
team had a worst QB unit the last few years? We simply don't know
what SS has left. Also, he even admitted he wasn't motivated to try
his best the last year. He stopped caring - no hope for a ring. But
with Balt? Could be dangerous.

Not motivated to play. How bout the millions of dollars per year he's getting paid to perform his best.
This is the kind of player the Steelers wouldn't touch, but the Ravens would. That's one of the reasons the Ravens are a good team, because they take a chance on guys with questionable character and talent. It's also a reason the Steelers are usually a little better. Team first.

thumper
05-16-2011, 03:24 PM
im not nervous, flacco isn't an 'elite' qb. new england doesnt necessarily have burners at the WR position but look what brady still did to us

Steve Smith made Jake Delhome look decent. Read and re-read
that statement. Yes, Brady and Belichick are warlocks with how
they stay productive no matter who is playing WR. But they are
not the norm. If SS made Jake look good, what could he do for
Flacco, who may be overrated, but he is better than Jake.

Look, I am not saying Balt. getting SS would be the end of the world.
I thought we might be in trouble when they signed Boldin, Who's-your-
momma et al. Perhaps SS lost a step - at 32. Just saying, if he is
even 90% of what he was, and gets "reborn" from playing on a contender,
it could be a mild concern for Pgh.

No biggie, really. If I were them I would aggressively pursue who ever
I had to in order to upgrade passing attack. Now, problem with that, is
adding new players often hurts team chemistry. How many times
have we seen it? It just doesn't work. Adding too many new players never
seems to succeed, i.e. Skins since Danny has owned them.

thumper
05-16-2011, 03:40 PM
Not motivated to play. How bout the millions of dollars per year he's getting paid to perform his best.
This is the kind of player the Steelers wouldn't touch, but the Ravens would. That's one of the reasons the Ravens are a good team, because they take a chance on guys with questionable character and talent. It's also a reason the Steelers are usually a little better. Team first.

I basically agree, but there is more than 1 way to skin a cat, so to say.
But overall, adding to many new players in free agency doesn't end
up forming a team with chemistry. Adding one or 2 key players can
work though. After seeing NO, NE and GB beat Pgh with a passing game,
Balt. is more convinced than ever that they must upgrade that unit.
Whether than can be done on a large _enough_ scale with Flacco
is yet to be determined. I am leaning towards him not having enough
instincts to get over. He has shown he will crack when the heat is
on. Nothing like Ben.

thumper
05-16-2011, 03:50 PM
Sorry for double response.

steelerchad
05-16-2011, 04:50 PM
I basically agree, but there is more than 1 way to skin a cat, so to say.
But overall, adding to many new players in free agency doesn't end
up forming a team with chemistry. Adding one or 2 key players can
work though. After seeing NO, NE and GB beat Pgh with a passing game,
Balt. is more convinced than ever that they must upgrade that unit.
Whether than can be done on a large _enough_ scale with Flacco
is yet to be determined. I am leaning towards him not having enough
instincts to get over. He has shown he will crack when the heat is
on. Nothing like Ben.

Our pass D was our weakness, but it wasn't as bad as many made it out to be. We win the Super Bowl if we take care of the ball. Our D kept a high powered Falcons passing attack out of the endzone completely. The secondary began to falter in midseason through the end with Troy and McFadden both banged up. I don't think our secondary situation is as dire as some think. Could it be upgraded? Sure. But we can win with this secondary.

You are correct about team chemistry and your example of the Skins is the best one to point this out. Every year adding big name free agents that never pan out. The Steelers keep the same core while adding 1 or 2 role players who develop over time and are ready to take over for aging veterans. Not to flashy, but effective. There were no CB's available when we picked who could have helped our secondary in 2011 anyway. So we need to hope BMac and Troy stay healthy and maybe one of the young guys can take the nickel from Gay.
We need to sign Ike badly IMO. He is an underated cover corner.

Curtain_of_Steel
05-16-2011, 04:51 PM
Exactly, if flacco is the QB than there isn't much to worry about. He is already stacking his excuses this year for failure.
No new contract
QB coach was let go

:'(

thumper
05-16-2011, 05:39 PM
Our pass D was our weakness, but it wasn't as bad as many made it out to be. We win the Super Bowl if we take care of the ball. Our D kept a high powered Falcons passing attack out of the endzone completely. The secondary began to falter in midseason through the end with Troy and McFadden both banged up. I don't think our secondary situation is as dire as some think. Could it be upgraded? Sure. But we can win with this secondary.

You are correct about team chemistry and your example of the Skins is the best one to point this out. Every year adding big name free agents that never pan out. The Steelers keep the same core while adding 1 or 2 role players who develop over time and are ready to take over for aging veterans. Not to flashy, but effective. There were no CB's available when we picked who could have helped our secondary in 2011 anyway. So we need to hope BMac and Troy stay healthy and maybe one of the young guys can take the nickel from Gay.
We need to sign Ike badly IMO. He is an underated cover corner.

I also thought our pass D wasn't as bad as everyone seems to think. That
being said, there is no question that the teams that can beat us do it
by passing the ball. I also think our pass D was made far worse because
both Troy and B-Mac were not right. I mean, B-Mac has always been a solid
CB but last season, he was jacked due to a bad hip and ab strain. No one
can cover with those ailments, which was proven by the fact that he kept
trying to play and kept having to come out of the game. Here is hoping
that Troy can come back whole, that B-Mac is back to 2008 form and that
we re-sign Ike. Then, it would be a huge bonus if someone like Butler
showed up to be fairly solid. I think Gay is gone. I still feel he can play
slot, but it seems no one agrees with me, as all media sources are saying
he is likely toast and that his play was horrid no matter where he played.
I think those saying that are only recalling him playing outside, where he
simply can't match up with legit #1 or #2 WRs in the NFL on the outside.

MDHQ
05-16-2011, 09:45 PM
Torrey Smith kind of has his roster spot. I dont think you rent Steve Smith for a year to delay Torreys career

thumper
05-16-2011, 10:38 PM
Torrey Smith kind of has his roster spot. I dont think you rent Steve Smith for a year to delay Torreys career

Why not? Pgh rarely has rookies do much of anything, although our
two rooks last year did make an impact. Balt. will take a title any
way they can get it. If it is by SS mentoring TS for a season, so be
it. They know their window is open now. Won't be forever. Nor will
ours, although our time for rebuilding is usually quite quick.

fart
05-17-2011, 10:50 AM
Why not? Pgh rarely has rookies do much of anything, although our
two rooks last year did make an impact. Balt. will take a title any
way they can get it. If it is by SS mentoring TS for a season, so be
it. They know their window is open now. Won't be forever. Nor will
ours, although our time for rebuilding is usually quite quick.

I think they learned their lesson last year with Houshmandzadeh and Stallworth. I don't expect Steve Smith to be a Raven.

thumper
05-17-2011, 02:59 PM
I think they learned their lesson last year with Houshmandzadeh and Stallworth. I don't expect Steve Smith to be a Raven.

They may have. Or, they could be like the Skins and keep
making the same mistake. Don't know.

PittSteelers2010
05-22-2011, 11:14 PM
Change of scenery could make him dangerous. He had no reason to play in Carolina, but Balt is a competitor.

zulater
05-22-2011, 11:41 PM
Just another over the hill receiver for the Ravens, not a concern.

zulater
05-22-2011, 11:42 PM
Change of scenery could make him dangerous. He had no reason to play in Carolina, but Balt is a competitor.

Doubt it, he looked old last year, that's generally irreversable with receivers.

finesward
05-23-2011, 12:02 AM
If he knocks out ed reed in training camp I say welcome to the ravens, stevie :)

thumper
05-23-2011, 05:34 PM
Doubt it, he looked old last year, that's generally irreversable with receivers.

He was clearly unmotivated on a team that had no chance of winning.
He could regain 90% of what he once was, and that could translate
to 1-2 big plays a game, which could be the difference in our games
between winning and losing vs. Balt. It _could_, not saying it will for
sure.

ben2hines=6
05-23-2011, 06:59 PM
this scares the hell out of me...steve smith is one of the greatest one on one recievers of the past decade and he still has some in the tank...dont let last year fool any of you, this guy is nasty

thumper
05-23-2011, 07:51 PM
this scares the hell out of me...steve smith is one of the greatest one on one recievers of the past decade and he still has some in the tank...dont let last year fool any of you, this guy is nasty

He's a baller for sure. Let's see where he ends up, if there is even
free agency this year.

DanRooney
05-24-2011, 02:00 AM
Do you guys still think Hines Ward scares any team in the league? I can tell you the answer is not yes...well as a pass catching receiver anyway.

thumper
05-24-2011, 02:26 PM
Do you guys still think Hines Ward scares any team in the league? I can tell you the answer is not yes...well as a pass catching receiver anyway.

He might not "scare" them in fear of breaking off long big plays.
But, they still got to know where he is as he still is the go to
guy for converting 1st downs or scoring TDs. Don't forget, in
the Super Bowl, it was Hines who caught the TD to get us
back in the game. And, of course, they DO have to fear them
knocking their heads off. That helps too.

steeltheone
05-25-2011, 08:27 AM
this scares the hell out of me...steve smith is one of the greatest one on one recievers of the past decade and he still has some in the tank...dont let last year fool any of you, this guy is nasty

Very true....Smith is a beast!.....Did you ever notice anybody who plays on other teams and is over 31 is over the hill,but our stable of 33 plus year olds never are ? just something I've noticed on this board.