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thumper
05-19-2011, 07:00 PM
Some peeps I know in the Burgh say it is known that Ben
is back in his party mode. I even heard he went back to his
party mode at the Super Bowl, and some are blaming that
for his sub-par performance in the game, where he had 2 minutes
and the ball, with a chance to win the game. Usually he wins those
games, but vs. GB, he faltered and didn't pull it off. Many blame it
on too much drinking, hurting his focus on the field. I can't say
I know. Anyone in the Burgh seeing signs of Ben partying it up again?

Riddle_Of_Steel
05-19-2011, 07:10 PM
I personally do not mind if he is partying, as long as he stays off the police blotter (in other words, using some moderation).

thumper
05-19-2011, 07:22 PM
I personally do not mind if he is partying, as long as he stays off the police blotter (in other words, using some moderation).

I don't even care if he uses much moderation, as long as it's not in a public
place. He absolutely can't afford to be out and getting snookered in public,
which comes with risks he just can't afford to flirt with.

Did you know? Many major govt. officials have aids that are to never
leave their side if there is a female with them (other than girlfriend or
wife, of course). Why? So there is no chance of a woman saying any
hanky panky went down, like that poor bastard who was running the IMF
bank, who was arrested purely on that woman's say so. Apparently,
that is enough to arrest someone on: one female claiming there
was some kind of sexual harassment or attempted rape. If he is
innocent, he sure as shit ain't being treated as such. They wouldn't
even give the guy a bail.

finesward
05-19-2011, 08:23 PM
I don't even care if he uses much moderation, as long as it's not in a public
place. He absolutely can't afford to be out and getting snookered in public,
which comes with risks he just can't afford to flirt with.

Did you know? Many major govt. officials have aids that are to never
leave their side if there is a female with them (other than girlfriend or
wife, of course). Why? So there is no chance of a woman saying any
hanky panky went down, like that poor bastard who was running the IMF
bank, who was arrested purely on that woman's say so. Apparently,
that is enough to arrest someone on: one female claiming there
was some kind of sexual harassment or attempted rape. If he is
innocent, he sure as shit ain't being treated as such.They wouldn't
even give the guy a bail.

Former IMF chief Strauss-Kahn gets bail in sex assault case

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_strausskahn_indictment

:noidea:

thumper
05-19-2011, 08:32 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_strausskahn_indictment

:noidea:

He got bail later. Initially he was not granted bail.

http://articles.cnn.com/2011-05-16/justice/new.york.imf.questioning_1_dominique-strauss-kahn-imf-hotel-employee?_s=PM:CRIME

:noidea::noidea::noidea::noidea::noidea::noidea::n oidea::noidea::noidea::noidea:

MattsMe
05-19-2011, 08:33 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_strausskahn_indictment

:noidea:

Please don't cloud thumper's argument with facts. :chuckle:

Reality is just a crutch for people who can't handle delusion.

PhantomJB93
05-19-2011, 08:39 PM
I don't care as long as he's not as bad as he was a year ago. There's a big difference between hitting up a bar with friends semi-frequently in the offseason and bar hopping in some random town in a different state with a crew and bodyguards, getting all out smashed, using VIP rooms and picking up random skanks along the way.

I mean, I can't say anything because I haven't seen him anywhere or anything, but all I'm saying is that just because he's been spotted at a few bars in town doesn't necessarily mean he's in "party-mode" or anything.

I don't believe the Super Bowl should be blamed on him drinking, he played a damn good second half and he's still human, just because he had the ball in his hands on the last drive and didn't end it the way he did Super Bowl XLIII doesn't mean he's lost a step or was out there drunk or lacking focus or anything. You can't win em all.

Unfortunatlely there are going to be people who freak out any time he gets within a 5 mile radius of alcohol now...

finesward
05-19-2011, 09:01 PM
He got bail later. Initially he was not granted bail.

http://articles.cnn.com/2011-05-16/justice/new.york.imf.questioning_1_dominique-strauss-kahn-imf-hotel-employee?_s=PM:CRIME

:noidea::noidea::noidea::noidea::noidea::noidea::n oidea::noidea::noidea::noidea:

Maybe that had something to do with him being, oh I don't know...THE CHIEF OF THE IMF, an extremely influential and powerful international organization. No flight risk there huh? :noidea:

MasterOfPuppets
05-20-2011, 10:11 AM
Please don't cloud thumper's argument with facts. :chuckle:

Reality is just a crutch for people who can't handle delusion.

reality is just a state of mind caused by a drug and alcohol deficiency ..:toofunny:

SteelCityMom
05-20-2011, 10:57 AM
I don't even care if he uses much moderation, as long as it's not in a public
place. He absolutely can't afford to be out and getting snookered in public,
which comes with risks he just can't afford to flirt with.

Did you know? Many major govt. officials have aids that are to never
leave their side if there is a female with them (other than girlfriend or
wife, of course). Why? So there is no chance of a woman saying any
hanky panky went down, like that poor bastard who was running the IMF
bank, who was arrested purely on that woman's say so. Apparently,
that is enough to arrest someone on: one female claiming there
was some kind of sexual harassment or attempted rape. If he is
innocent, he sure as shit ain't being treated as such. They wouldn't
even give the guy a bail.

Just curious...in your mind, does there have to be multiple women accusing a guy of rape at the time for him not to be considered a poor bastard? You do know that rapes usually don't have witnesses right? Who's "say so" are they supposed to be arrested on? If it was your mother, sister, aunt, wife/girlfriend that claimed they were raped, wouldn't you want someone to take them seriously? Plus this guy definitely was a flight risk. He was basically caught trying to skip town during his arraignment....I mean trying to rush off to a lunch appointment in France. :chuckle:

I know there are females who cry wolf sometimes...but that line of thinking you posted is just kind of cold and detached.

As far as Ben goes...haven't heard a thing about him partying, but hopefully the knucklehead knows not to put himself in precarious situations anymore.

stb_steeler
05-20-2011, 12:28 PM
I thought he was scheduled to get married this July!....maybe he's livin it up till then, who knows.

Sixburgher
05-20-2011, 12:42 PM
I thought he was scheduled to get married this July!....maybe he's livin it up till then, who knows.

Or maybe it's just more unsubstantiated gossip.

Atlanta Dan
05-20-2011, 12:54 PM
Or maybe it's just more unsubstantiated gossip.

:iagree::thumbsup:

thumper
05-20-2011, 01:32 PM
Maybe that had something to do with him being, oh I don't know...THE CHIEF OF THE IMF, an extremely influential and powerful international organization. No flight risk there huh? :noidea:

I never asserted anything about the whys of hows. I simply asserted
he wasn't allowed bail - which he wasn't initially - and you asserted
he was allowed bail, but I then proved that wasn't until later and I was
correct. I never said anything about a flight risk, but he's out now so
what's the point of that? Is he no longer a flight risk? Which is it?

The guy was so obviously framed. The establishment didn't like what
he was doing, which included a desire for more constraints and watch
dogging on the worlds most powerful banks. They didn't like that, so,
bam, out of now where a chamber maid claims he tried to rape her and
just on her word, and nothing else, they presume guilt. The media sure
did. Oh, that's right, they control the media too.

thumper
05-20-2011, 01:33 PM
Please don't cloud thumper's argument with facts. :chuckle:

Reality is just a crutch for people who can't handle delusion.

Oh MAttie MAttie missed the fatty fatty. I already proved he was initially
denied bail. Did you miss that? Don't let the facts get in your way of
understanding reality. Oh those pesky facts.

Fire Arians
05-20-2011, 01:50 PM
he's drinking welches, it's 100% juice! :P

thumper
05-20-2011, 01:59 PM
Just curious...in your mind, does there have to be multiple women accusing a guy of rape at the time for him not to be considered a poor bastard? You do know that rapes usually don't have witnesses right? Who's "say so" are they supposed to be arrested on? If it was your mother, sister, aunt, wife/girlfriend that claimed they were raped, wouldn't you want someone to take them seriously? Plus this guy definitely was a flight risk. He was basically caught trying to skip town during his arraignment....I mean trying to rush off to a lunch appointment in France. :chuckle:

I know there are females who cry wolf sometimes...but that line of thinking you posted is just kind of cold and detached.

As far as Ben goes...haven't heard a thing about him partying, but hopefully the knucklehead knows not to put himself in precarious situations anymore.

I don't disagree with anything you said. I do know women get raped or
attempted rape all the time and that is not cool at all and is a very serious
crime. But the extenuating circumstances seem very fishy. The most powerful
men in the world didn't like how he was operating the IMF (They are not in
favor of transparency or more regulations - they prefer to be able to run
buck wild and F over as many little people as possible to further their riches.)
This guy was also favored to win the presidency in France and had the position
of tacking care of the people of France over the largest banks in the world. They
don't like anyone who wants to help the people over the most powerful bankers.

This is the reality of how the most powerful and wealthy operate: They frame,
discredit or murder anyone getting in the way of their agendas. I also had no
idea to the extent of how true this way, until I really opened my eyes and took
a hard look at how the Fed Res. was created, who was a part of it, what
function it served - or the fact that it is a PRIVATE collection of bankers, many
of which are foreign. Once you grasp the truth of all that, everything seems to
come to light. Look into "The Creature from Jekyll Island." It's important that
all Americans realize what the FR is - not the image that is fed to us. It's not
a part of the govt. - it's a private group of the worlds most powerful bankers.
And the Founding Fathers were solidly against allowing central bankers to
get their claws into us. They saw how it brought on tyranny and would eventually
enslave the people in debt, and was not needed at all.

finesward
05-20-2011, 03:05 PM
I never asserted anything about the whys of hows. I simply asserted
he wasn't allowed bail - which he wasn't initially - and you asserted
he was allowed bail, but I then proved that wasn't until later and I was
correct. I never said anything about a flight risk, but he's out now so
what's the point of that? Is he no longer a flight risk? Which is it?

The guy was so obviously framed. The establishment didn't like what
he was doing, which included a desire for more constraints and watch
dogging on the worlds most powerful banks. They didn't like that, so,
bam, out of now where a chamber maid claims he tried to rape her and
just on her word, and nothing else, they presume guilt. The media sure
did. Oh, that's right, they control the media too.

No, you asserted that he was denied bail because he wasn't being treated like he was innocent. I asserted that he was denied bail because he was a flight risk. I was correct. He was caught on a plane trying to leave the country. Seems like a no brainer if someone is accused of a litany of serious crimes that carry a 20-25 year sentence and has the means (and was caught attempting) to flee that person would be denied bail. :noidea:

And he's out now because of the conditions of his bail, which include house arrest with an electronic monitoring device and an armed guard to make sure he doesn't go anywhere.

:hatsoff:

finesward
05-20-2011, 03:16 PM
I don't disagree with anything you said. I do know women get raped or
attempted rape all the time and that is not cool at all and is a very serious
crime. But the extenuating circumstances seem very fishy. The most powerful
men in the world didn't like how he was operating the IMF (They are not in
favor of transparency or more regulations - they prefer to be able to run
buck wild and F over as many little people as possible to further their riches.)
This guy was also favored to win the presidency in France and had the position
of tacking care of the people of France over the largest banks in the world. They
don't like anyone who wants to help the people over the most powerful bankers.

This is the reality of how the most powerful and wealthy operate: They frame,
discredit or murder anyone getting in the way of their agendas. I also had no
idea to the extent of how true this way, until I really opened my eyes and took
a hard look at how the Fed Res. was created, who was a part of it, what
function it served - or the fact that it is a PRIVATE collection of bankers, many
of which are foreign. Once you grasp the truth of all that, everything seems to
come to light. Look into "The Creature from Jekyll Island." It's important that
all Americans realize what the FR is - not the image that is fed to us. It's not
a part of the govt. - it's a private group of the worlds most powerful bankers.
And the Founding Fathers were solidly against allowing central bankers to
get their claws into us. They saw how it brought on tyranny and would eventually
enslave the people in debt, and was not needed at all.

So you went from rumors of Ben drinking again to how the Federal Reserve framed the IMF chief. Wow, your all over the place aren't you??

You know, maybe enlightening posters on a Steelers message board is too small of a target audience for you. Think bigger thumper cause honestly none of us give a shit about the new world order. Maybe you should re-think your strategy for changing the world and saving all of us sheep from big brother.

The path you've been treading down lately in all likelihood will end in a ban, with you on the outside looking in. Try keeping your threads about the Steelers and I doubt you will have any problems. Good luck with that buddy!

SteelCityMom
05-20-2011, 03:26 PM
I never asserted anything about the whys of hows. I simply asserted
he wasn't allowed bail - which he wasn't initially - and you asserted
he was allowed bail, but I then proved that wasn't until later and I was
correct. I never said anything about a flight risk, but he's out now so
what's the point of that? Is he no longer a flight risk? Which is it?

As finesward has pointed out...he's no longer a flight risk because he's on house arrest with guards and an ankle bracelet. I think the process just went a little bit slower with him because of who he is and how easily he could flee the country. They want to make sure they can keep him here for a trial. (Otherwise it's Polanski all over again)

The guy was so obviously framed. The establishment didn't like what
he was doing, which included a desire for more constraints and watch
dogging on the worlds most powerful banks. They didn't like that, so,
bam, out of now where a chamber maid claims he tried to rape her and
just on her word, and nothing else, they presume guilt. The media sure
did. Oh, that's right, they control the media too.

You might be right...I don't know. What I do know is, this isn't the first time he's been accused of sexual assault. I'm not saying that makes him guilty...but they're waiting on forensics to come back and I think it's worth knowing if he did it or not. I'm just tying to look at it as objectively as possible. I really don't care what position of power a person is in, it doesn't mean that they can't or won't commit a heinous crime like this. I just don't think he should be given a pass because people think it might be a set up.

I don't disagree with anything you said. I do know women get raped or
attempted rape all the time and that is not cool at all and is a very serious
crime. But the extenuating circumstances seem very fishy. The most powerful
men in the world didn't like how he was operating the IMF (They are not in
favor of transparency or more regulations - they prefer to be able to run
buck wild and F over as many little people as possible to further their riches.)
This guy was also favored to win the presidency in France and had the position
of tacking care of the people of France over the largest banks in the world. They
don't like anyone who wants to help the people over the most powerful bankers.

This is the reality of how the most powerful and wealthy operate: They frame,
discredit or murder anyone getting in the way of their agendas. I also had no
idea to the extent of how true this way, until I really opened my eyes and took
a hard look at how the Fed Res. was created, who was a part of it, what
function it served - or the fact that it is a PRIVATE collection of bankers, many
of which are foreign. Once you grasp the truth of all that, everything seems to
come to light. Look into "The Creature from Jekyll Island." It's important that
all Americans realize what the FR is - not the image that is fed to us. It's not
a part of the govt. - it's a private group of the worlds most powerful bankers.
And the Founding Fathers were solidly against allowing central bankers to
get their claws into us. They saw how it brought on tyranny and would eventually
enslave the people in debt, and was not needed at all.

You're preaching to the choir here about the Federal Reserve. That and the IRS is a subject I've done extensive research on from HS and on. They are without a doubt extremely corrupt institutions in my mind. I cannot let that cloud my judgement on the potential acts of a single person though. Especially when said person has been accused of this before.

I am not judge or jury on this though. And I honestly wasn't trying to make a case for his guilt or innocence. I expect a fair trial though, regardless of the propaganda surrounding this. I think the justice system has actually handled this in the best way possible. If there is a trial, and he is exonerated, then I will think he is a "poor bastard" for being dragged through the mud by what very well may be a money hungry woman...and I'll hope that she gets her just desserts. BUT...if he is guilty, then he gets everything that's coming to him.

It's a tough situation, I know. But you can't dismiss the charges just because he is a person of wealth and power. I still have to believe that a person, no matter their status in this world, must answer to charges against them like you or I would. If I don't believe in that simple societal rule, then true elitism rules the day....if that makes any sense.

*Edit* I'd also like to say that I know we've not gotten along on different subjects in the past...and I honestly appreciate that we can discuss this like rational adults. It would be really sad to me if this ended up in a pissing contest (like many other discussions have). Thank you for replying respectfully about this sensitive topic, even if we might share different views on it in the end.

SteelCityMom
05-20-2011, 03:51 PM
So you went from rumors of Ben drinking again to how the Federal Reserve framed the IMF chief. Wow, your all over the place aren't you??

You know, maybe enlightening posters on a Steelers message board is too small of a target audience for you. Think bigger thumper cause honestly none of us give a shit about the new world order. Maybe you should re-think your strategy for changing the world and saving all of us sheep from big brother.

The path you've been treading down lately in all likelihood will end in a ban, with you on the outside looking in. Try keeping your threads about the Steelers and I doubt you will have any problems. Good luck with that buddy!

You know, I'm really not looking to ban anyone at all. What I would prefer though (and I know I'm guilty as well) is keeping discussions civil. There have been some sensitive topics that have gotten out of hand recently, and I'd like that to change. We don't all have to agree on everything, but we can at least respect each others opinions.

It's the offseason, and I fully expect some threads to go way off topic. What I won't allow is people belittling each other constantly. That's gotta stop. All it does is detract from whatever topic is being discussed and make people look like assholes.

So debate away, but please keep it civil. I think everyone will find that works better for everyone in the end.

finesward
05-20-2011, 10:26 PM
I know your not looking to ban anyone mom. While I respect you not trying to ban anyone, I think there has to be a line drawn somewhere. Remember downbylaw? Can't say I really miss his "i know it all" attitude, and to be honest I'm not too stoked on ol' thumper's either. I'm all for a good debate, but he can't seem to understand that this is the STEELERS forum, so all this conspiracy hooplah is polluting what should be threads about the pittsburgh steelers. If he wants to rant about the Fed, nine 1 one, osama bin laden, the moon landing, etc, etc... let him do it in the appropriate forum, coincidentally the one that nobody pays any attention to.
I'm all for respecting opinions, but I don't have to respect his attitude. Respect has got to be earned and this kid hasn't shown me he knows how to respect someone else's opinion if it doesn't agree with his. He's been shooting off in a condescending tone to anyone who doesn't believe his "clear thinking" (amazingly all his major beliefs about the govt, 9/11, the fed, etc are all major points of a popular movie, zeitgeist)

jwmann2
05-21-2011, 12:36 AM
This lifestyle gets addictive and it gets hard to stay in the house when you receive so much attention and love from others around you. When NFL players finally lose their celebrity, they continue to spend lavishly because it gets your attention. Ocho Cinco is the kind of guy that will be like this, he will make every attempt to stay in the news and media.
Nothing wrong with Ben partying as long as he is being responsible.:tt04:

thumper
05-21-2011, 04:18 PM
Respect has got to be earned and this kid hasn't shown me he knows how to respect someone else's opinion if it doesn't agree with his. He's been shooting off in a condescending tone to anyone who doesn't believe his "clear thinking" (amazingly all his major beliefs about the govt, 9/11, the fed, etc are all major points of a popular movie, zeitgeist)

Classic case of transference. Look it up if you don't understand.

And your logic is flawed. I will let you determine how - give you a shot
at it.

55BaileyFan
05-21-2011, 05:54 PM
He drank all through college and every year here in the Burgh. Its not like drinking is new for him? He won SB while drinking...don't care either way. We lost the SB and that was that. I don't blame anything other then GB wanted to win really bad and our O looked confused. If he wants to drink fine, but make sure you are doing it in proper places with proper people around you so you don't do anything stupid.

siss
05-21-2011, 09:13 PM
There is no alcohol at his wedding. Im not to worried about it.

finesward
05-21-2011, 09:38 PM
Classic case of transference. Look it up if you don't understand.

And your logic is flawed. I will let you determine how - give you a shot
at it.

And a classic case of deflection. Seriously dude, I don't care about logic or transference (which btw you whiffed miserably) I'm merely stating my opinion that your attitude is poor and that your choice of discussion in a STEELER forum is misguided. End of story.

Buh bye :wave:

zulater
05-22-2011, 12:28 AM
Jeez, when I saw the title of this thread I was genuinely worried, but after reading it I'm just left bewildered and slightly pissed. I mean if you're going to come on and post a topic like this shouldn't you have something more than unsubstaniated rumors and innuendo's. Even the story of the so called friends seeing Ben partying, where, when and what exactly did he do to draw negative attention to himself?

Personally I'm calling bullshit to the thread, I think Thumper was doing nothing more than throwing spaghetti against the wall to see if it would stick. Pretty damn lame if you ask me.

zulater
05-22-2011, 12:52 AM
Ben Roethlisberger organized a handful of workouts for the Steelers offense, including some linemen, but they have not been ongoing. He, his fiancÚ, Bill Cowher, Jerome Bettis and a handful of Steelers teammates attended the premiere Thursday night of "Hangover II" in Los Angeles
Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11142/1148046-66-0.stm#ixzz1N3OVoQcg

Oh look, turns out the thread was right, Ben's got a hangover!:flap:

Atlanta Dan
05-22-2011, 08:42 AM
Ben Roethlisberger organized a handful of workouts for the Steelers offense, including some linemen, but they have not been ongoing.
Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11142/1148046-66-0.stm#ixzz1N3OVoQcg

The workouts initially organized by Ben obviously have not been ongoing because Roethlisberger repeatedly showed up drunk at the workouts and was passing with one hand while holding a drink in the other. His teammates had to conduct an on the field intervention to put him into rehab

At least that is what i have heard:coffee:

thumper
05-22-2011, 02:42 PM
And a classic case of deflection. Seriously dude, I don't care about logic or transference (which btw you whiffed miserably) I'm merely stating my opinion that your attitude is poor and that your choice of discussion in a STEELER forum is misguided. End of story.

Buh bye :wave:

And yet, who is the person who keeps taking threads towards non-Steeler
content, ad nauseum? You whine if a thread goes off topic,but it is you
yourself, that keeps increasing the level of occurrence of that very such
thing. That makes you a hypocrite. You act as if you abhor off-topic
chat but it is you who keeps increasing the number of occurrences. The
state of our franchise QB is relevant to this team. It was stated that
Ben going out during the Super Bowl week was the first time in a
while that he went out partying, and we saw the results: Horrible play
by Ben. Losing play by Ben. INTs by Ben. Ben with the ball in final
two minutes with a chance to score the go ahead TD and he FAILED
miserably.

Now you want to stay on topic, then do so __________YOURSELF__________.
Get it? This sinking in yet? Every time you post complaining about being off
topic, you yourself are posing off topic. And your ad hominem attacks are as
off topic as can be. Clean it up. Get civil.

finesward
05-22-2011, 03:27 PM
And yet, who is the person who keeps taking threads towards non-Steeler
content, ad nauseum?


I don't even care if he uses much moderation, as long as it's not in a public
place. He absolutely can't afford to be out and getting snookered in public,
which comes with risks he just can't afford to flirt with.

Did you know? Many major govt. officials have aids that are to never
leave their side if there is a female with them (other than girlfriend or
wife, of course). Why? So there is no chance of a woman saying any
hanky panky went down, like that poor bastard who was running the IMF
bank, who was arrested purely on that woman's say so. Apparently,
that is enough to arrest someone on: one female claiming there
was some kind of sexual harassment or attempted rape. If he is
innocent, he sure as shit ain't being treated as such. They wouldn't
even give the guy a bail.


I think you just answered your own question...

:hatsoff:

zulater
05-22-2011, 06:41 PM
. The
state of our franchise QB is relevant to this team. It was stated that
Ben going out during the Super Bowl week was the first time in a
while.

Stated by who? I heard nothing of the sort, Ben taking his linemen out to a piano bar on the Tuesday before the game had no bearing whatsover on his play, and no one of any value ever suggested so.



that he went out partying, and we saw the results: Horrible play
by Ben.

There's zero tie in to Ben's performance in the Super Bowl and his tame night out on the Tuesday before the game. None, zero, nada! :doh:



Losing play by Ben. INTs by Ben. Ben with the ball in final
two minutes with a chance to score the go ahead TD and he FAILED
miserably.


The entire team failed, it wasn't just Ben. Stupid penalties, fumbles, missed coverage assignments, missed blocks, it was a team thing.

Also the fact that the Steelers were in position to win the game on the fianl possession despite all their mistakes had something to do with Ben. But I guess you missed the good things he did?


Now you want to stay on topic, then do so __________YOURSELF__________.
Get it? This sinking in yet? Every time you post complaining about being off
topic, you yourself are posing off topic. And your ad hominem attacks are as
off topic as can be. Clean it up. Get civil.

]It's hard to be civil when faced with such stupidity.
I feel your pain finesward. :chuckle:

zulater
05-22-2011, 07:15 PM
I just want to add this, then I'm through with this topic.

Did Ben play a great game in the Super Bowl? No, but he didn't play terrible either, the Steelers moved the ball effectively most of the game and put points on the board. ( obviously not enough though)

But even if you feel Ben underperformed, what of it? I can make you a long list of Hall of Fame caliber quarterbacks who's performance in a Super Bowl was subpar.

Dan Marino, Jim Kelly ( several times) John Unitas, Fran Tarkenton ( multiple times) Roger Staubach, Peyton Manning, Brett Favre among many others commited horrible turnovers, overthrew open receivers, took bad sacks etc... on the way to losing a Super bowl. It happens to the best of them, there's two teams out there, and sometimes great players make bad plays in big games. And I guess it was Ben's turn in SB XLIII.

But let's not forget, Ben is among a select few to even get his team to 3 Super bowls. One un-super Super Bowl by him shouldn't lead Steelers fans down the road of innuendo and rumormongering concerning his personal life absent of facts.

stb_steeler
05-22-2011, 10:57 PM
U left this guy out zulator....lol
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll23/pedro455/tom-brady.jpg

PittSteelers2010
05-22-2011, 11:11 PM
It's the offseason, who cares so long as he isn't doing something against the law. Now if this was regular season, that's a different story

kirklandrules
05-23-2011, 10:22 AM
There's no story here. Wake me up when there's something to talk about. :drooling:

StainlessStill
05-23-2011, 12:16 PM
Oh no's, Ben had a Bud-Light!

Death to the world and death to all of Pittsburgh!


Get a grip people, Christ.

vasteeler
05-23-2011, 01:46 PM
HOLY SHIT....... hes over 21 and had a drink.........cut him

wootawnee
05-25-2011, 11:16 AM
Some peeps I know in the Burgh say it is known that Ben
is back in his party mode. I even heard he went back to his
party mode at the Super Bowl, and some are blaming that
for his sub-par performance in the game, where he had 2 minutes
and the ball, with a chance to win the game. Usually he wins those
games, but vs. GB, he faltered and didn't pull it off. Many blame it
on too much drinking, hurting his focus on the field. I can't say
I know. Anyone in the Burgh seeing signs of Ben partying it up again?

BullS*&T

Its because we lost Santonio Holmes is why we lost the Superbowl......We did not have the weapons to keep up with Green Bay, plain and simple......Our young guys were not ready, and no one in the league runs routes like Tone......

Who doesn't go out and party before they get married.......

Enough of the slander here bud.......

thumper
05-25-2011, 02:15 PM
BullS*&T

Its because we lost Santonio Holmes is why we lost the Superbowl......We did not have the weapons to keep up with Green Bay, plain and simple......Our young guys were not ready, and no one in the league runs routes like Tone......

Who doesn't go out and party before they get married.......

Enough of the slander here bud.......

There was no slander stated; mere questions where asked. Also,
you can't really slander famous people. They have to play with a whole
other set of rules. It's just how it is.