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thumper
06-22-2011, 02:55 PM
Some are obvious. Others? Might be a little of a surprise.

#1. Ray Lewis. Totally predictable. Personally, I don't hate him.
I kind of like him. I respect him. And, since we mostly get over on
him, it makes it all the better. I love how he preaches how they
won't lose to us. Can't lose to us. How they can't forget how hard
they worked to beat us....only to keep losing to us. It makes beating
them all the sweeter, seeing his pre-game speeches and dances. etc.
But I can understand how he made #1 on this list.

#2. Tom Brady. Kind of don't hate him, myself, but it does suck that
he mostly kicks our ass. What? We beat him once so far? He knows
how to beat our D. And Belichick knows how to scheme to shut down
our O. Tough to beat.

And here is where the surprise is.

#3. Kordell Stewart. That's right, our own player makes for the 3rd most-
hated NFL player in Pgh. I am certainly on board with this one. Kordell
was a plague to this team. And Cowher's and Rooneys' denial to how
bad he sucked ruined more than 1 season for this team to have a chance
at a ring. If we had a decent QB, those teams were good enough to compete
for a ring. But with a mentally challenged buffoon under center, we had no
hope. He had one good season, some how. But other than that he was
God awful. He ruined many seasons for me.

#4. Neil O'Donnell. I get this one. The fact he played so bad in the Super
Bowl that it looked like the threw the game says it all. And the fact that
he had two picks so bad that they looked on purpose is unforgivable,
whether he did it on purpose or not. Either is inexcusable. And he never
made it back to the locker room ever again after that game. He is a
coward. And he proved how much the team made him vs. him making
the team, considering his career after Pgh.

#5. Ken Stabler. How can this be? Way too long ago to matter. And he
wasn't a despicable person. So he beat us a few games. And? For
that he makes the most-hated list? I think it's a shame he hasn't made
the Hall of Fame. He was a good QB on a very good team.

Interesting list though.

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http://apudgeisasandwich.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/kordell.jpg

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I am a fan of the last person in the last picture.

MDSteel15
06-22-2011, 03:25 PM
This is simply stupid! No way Kordell should be on there OR Neil!!! I understand why people are upset with #14 since he ran to the Jets for the money but Stewart was put in the situation by Cower.... Still think he would have been an amazing triple threat WR!

MDSteel15
06-22-2011, 03:26 PM
http://imod.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/sexy-butt1.jpg

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AMAZING :drink: :hatsoff: :tt03: :tt04: :popcorn:

thumper
06-22-2011, 04:50 PM
This is simply stupid! No way Kordell should be on there OR Neil!!! I understand why people are upset with #14 since he ran to the Jets for the money but Stewart was put in the situation by Cower.... Still think he would have been an amazing triple threat WR!

I hear this all the time. But it was at _least_ as much the fault of Kordell.
He _wanted_ to be QB, period. Cowher promised him he would get
his shot. I have heard KS say that "getting hit hurts" and he was happy
to not play as slash any more. If they laid it out - on the line - to KS early
that they wanted him to be slash, and after his contract was up he could
see if other teams would give him a shot at QB, it could have been
avoided. Maybe. KS was not the brightest knife in the drawer and he
always over-estimated his quality of play and value as QB.

Wallace108
06-24-2011, 03:15 AM
#4. Neil O'Donnell. I get this one. The fact he played so bad in the Super
Bowl that it looked like the threw the game says it all. And the fact that
he had two picks so bad that they looked on purpose is unforgivable,
whether he did it on purpose or not. Either is inexcusable. And he never
made it back to the locker room ever again after that game. He is a
coward. And he proved how much the team made him vs. him making
the team, considering his career after Pgh.

I never understood all the Neil O'Donnell hate. He had some great seasons with the Steelers and led us to a Super Bowl. The first interception in SB XXX was his fault, but on the second one, Andre Hastings ran the wrong route. But yet O'Donnell received all the blame. O'Donnell became the Bill Buckner of the Steelers, even though it wasn't entirely his fault.

He's not the only reason we lost SB XXX, and he was the best quarterback we had between Bradshaw and Roethlisberger.

zulater
06-24-2011, 04:10 AM
I never understood all the Neil O'Donnell hate. He had some great seasons with the Steelers and led us to a Super Bowl. The first interception in SB XXX was his fault, but on the second one, Andre Hastings ran the wrong route. But yet O'Donnell received all the blame. O'Donnell became the Bill Buckner of the Steelers, even though it wasn't entirely his fault.

He's not the only reason we lost SB XXX, and he was the best quarterback we had between Bradshaw and Roethlisberger.




:applaudit:

thumper
06-24-2011, 10:59 AM
He's not the only reason we lost SB XXX, and he was the best quarterback we had between Bradshaw and Roethlisberger.

He's not? Who is the close second? Wasn't if the first time that
the team with more rushing, passing yards and sacks lost the game?

Wallace108
06-24-2011, 11:16 AM
He's not? Who is the close second? Wasn't if the first time that
the team with more rushing, passing yards and sacks lost the game?

Wait, O'Donnell throws the ball to where Hastings was supposed to be on a timing pattern. Hastings ran the wrong route and wasn't where he was supposed to be. How exactly is that O'Donnell's fault? :huh:

hicksfan
06-24-2011, 12:30 PM
no turkey jones?

thumper
06-24-2011, 12:53 PM
Wait, O'Donnell throws the ball to where Hastings was supposed to be on a timing pattern. Hastings ran the wrong route and wasn't where he was supposed to be. How exactly is that O'Donnell's fault? :huh:

I don't know but I never thought that situation was clearly, fully explained.
Did Hastings agree he ran the wrong route? I know it certainly was
suggested. But wasn't their room for a judgment call in there, where
it could be a matter of opinion on what the right route should have been?
Also, there were _two_ passes that looked like NOD purposely threw
the ball to the wrong team, not one. Both were horrific. Let's say one
was a wrong route by the receiver - how about the other one? If NOD
was so good, why didn't he do jack shit after he left Pgh? He sucked
as a Jet and was merely a back up in TN; he never did jack after he
left Pgh.

Wallace108
06-24-2011, 02:00 PM
I don't know but I never thought that situation was clearly, fully explained.
Did Hastings agree he ran the wrong route? I know it certainly was
suggested. But wasn't their room for a judgment call in there, where
it could be a matter of opinion on what the right route should have been?
Also, there were _two_ passes that looked like NOD purposely threw
the ball to the wrong team, not one. Both were horrific. Let's say one
was a wrong route by the receiver - how about the other one? If NOD
was so good, why didn't he do jack shit after he left Pgh? He sucked
as a Jet and was merely a back up in TN; he never did jack after he
left Pgh.

O'Donnell blamed himself for the first INT to Brown. Hastings blamed him as well. On the second one, O'Donnell implied it was Hastings' fault. And Hastings did NOT blame O'Donnell. That says a lot.

On the first INT, both O'Donnell and Hastings clearly blame O'Donnell:

"The first one kind of got away from me," O'Donnell said when it was all over last night and the Cowboys had become the first team to win three Super Bowl in four years.

"I don't know what Neil saw or what happened to the other two guys," Hastings said. "It wasn't a miscommunication, I know that."

Now look at the responses to the second INT:

O'Donnell: "On the second one, we're all in this together, we're a team. I'm not going to single anyone out. That's not my style."

Hastings on the read: "It can go either way," Hastings said. "Neil and I were on two different pages." "It's not Neil's fault," Hastings said. "It's a situation where you have a miscommunication. It's like when the quarterback says the snap is on two and the center snaps it on one. It's no one's fault."

Read more: http://www.postgazette.com/pg/07294/827305-66.stm#ixzz1QDXB772M

Hastings had no trouble blaming O'Donnell for the first INT, but on the second one, he sounded like a guy who can't own up to a mistake. :noidea:

Jimmy Shaker
06-24-2011, 02:13 PM
"It's a situation where you have a miscommunication. It's like when the quarterback says the snap is on two and the center snaps it on one. It's no one's fault."

Uh, that would be the center's fault.

Wallace108
06-24-2011, 02:42 PM
Uh, that would be the center's fault.

:toofunny:

Very true.

steelerchad
06-24-2011, 04:31 PM
Uh, that would be the center's fault.

When I read that I'm thinking- how in the hell is that no one's fault?

thumper
06-24-2011, 04:42 PM
When I read that I'm thinking- how in the hell is that no one's fault?

Exactly what I was thinking. I was thinking, "Am I missing something here?"

So bottom line, first pick was 100% NOD's fault. 2nd one seems like a possible
miscommunication where one saw it one way and the other saw it another, as
in what the route should have been - hot read or go with the original play. Bottom
line, take even one of those plays out, and Pgh had a real chance of winning.
Those weren't just turnovers; they were turnovers that gave Dallas the ball
very close to the end zone. You can't give up two turnovers to a team as
talented as that one and expect to overcome them. No way that's going to
happen. We were lucky to even be in the game to begin with, considering
their dominant OL, running game and QB and their TE and Irvin. That is asking
a lot, to overcome all that plus two turnovers that give them the ball close to
goal line.

Wallace108
06-24-2011, 05:38 PM
So bottom line, first pick was 100% NOD's fault. 2nd one seems like a possible
miscommunication where one saw it one way and the other saw it another, as
in what the route should have been - hot read or go with the original play.
Fair enough. But if we DO have to assign blame on the second pick (which we really don't have to), I think blame should go to Hastings.

Bottom line, take even one of those plays out, and Pgh had a real chance of winning.
Those weren't just turnovers; they were turnovers that gave Dallas the ball
very close to the end zone. You can't give up two turnovers to a team as
talented as that one and expect to overcome them. No way that's going to
happen.
I agree 100 percent. But if you think about it, isn't that what Ben's picks did for Green Bay? So why isn't Steeler Nation hating on Ben the way they did O'Donnell? :noidea:

Not that I think we SHOULD hate on Ben, but that takes me back to my original point ... why all the hate for O'Donnell?

55BaileyFan
06-25-2011, 09:32 AM
This is simply stupid! No way Kordell should be on there OR Neil!!! I understand why people are upset with #14 since he ran to the Jets for the money but Stewart was put in the situation by Cower.... Still think he would have been an amazing triple threat WR!

I think this list is not real accurate. Where is Terrell Suggs or TJ Houszoverrated? TJ should make the list because of his desecration of the terrible towel. I can think of other Raiders besides Stabler too.

I do not agree that Kordell should be on the list. People forget he still threw 70 touchdowns, rushed for 35 more and led the Steelers to 2 AFC Championships.

There are other people that should be on this list than Neil (who I can't stand) and Kordell (who I was a fan of)

caplovestroyp43
06-25-2011, 07:14 PM
I liked Kordell. Regardless of what anyone else says.

Ken Stabler? WTF? He wasn't even a Steeler to my knowledge! And I agree he should be in the HOF. The Snake buddy. Hellva QB.

Bill Cowher's Jaw
06-25-2011, 10:04 PM
why isn't Steeler Nation hating on Ben the way they did O'Donnell? :noidea:

Not that I think we SHOULD hate on Ben, but that takes me back to my original point ... why all the hate for O'Donnell?

Because Ben already won the Super Bowl twice and fans are appreciative of it. The 1995 Super Bowl was the Steelers first in 25 years and Neil blew it. Now, if the Steelers ever lost Super Bowl XL, I think Ben would have faced a lot of the same criticism that Neil did.

55BaileyFan
06-25-2011, 11:05 PM
I liked Kordell. Regardless of what anyone else says.

Ken Stabler? WTF? He wasn't even a Steeler to my knowledge! And I agree he should be in the HOF. The Snake buddy. Hellva QB.

Agreed, always loved Kordell.

I have to admit, I don't like Neil. I am a team guy but he is one of those Steelers that I just could never like after the Super Bowl. Not really because he lost but because he played SO terrible and that last pick has always been iffy to me.

ben2hines=6
07-04-2011, 11:53 PM
1. TJ
2. Suggs
3. Bart Scott
4.Brady
5. the whole cowboys roster and their soft fans

thumper
07-05-2011, 01:17 PM
I agree 100 percent. But if you think about it, isn't that what Ben's picks did for Green Bay? So why isn't Steeler Nation hating on Ben the way they did O'Donnell? :noidea:

Not that I think we SHOULD hate on Ben, but that takes me back to my original point ... why all the hate for O'Donnell?

A few reasons.

1.) Ben already delivered two rings. That buys some leverage. NOD never
won any rings; it was our first shot in 15 years.

2.) When Ben got picked, his arm was hit. Had it not, that could have
gone all the way for a bomb TD. NOD wasn't touched in either pick.
It _appeared_ as though he just either had a brain fart, did it on purpose
or had an enforced error. Whatever the case, not acceptable to Steeler
nation.

3.) It appears obvious that Ben is a winner. We know he is. He just is.
NOD just isn't. NOD was Mr. Super Careful most of his career, choosing
to complete a 5 yard pass on 3rd and 8. It kept his completion % high,
but not much use for winning. The fact that NOD never stepped foot
inside the Steelers' facilities after that game says volume. Ben is a
warrior and you cut a warrior some breaks, that you don't cut for a
wuss who just doesn't get it done when it matters most. And if NOD
was that good (vs. being on a great team that made him look better
than he was) then he would have done more after leaving Pgh. He
did jack crap.

I don't loath NOD. I do look back at that era with a lot of pleasure. But
make no mistake: NOD was merely adequate as a QB, not a franchise
guy or a true winner.

cloppbeast
07-05-2011, 03:29 PM
I never understood all the Neil O'Donnell hate. He had some great seasons with the Steelers and led us to a Super Bowl. The first interception in SB XXX was his fault, but on the second one, Andre Hastings ran the wrong route. But yet O'Donnell received all the blame. O'Donnell became the Bill Buckner of the Steelers, even though it wasn't entirely his fault.

He's not the only reason we lost SB XXX, and he was the best quarterback we had between Bradshaw and Roethlisberger.

:thumbsup::tt::hatsoff::applaudit::tt04:

cloppbeast
07-05-2011, 03:58 PM
#4. Neil O'Donnell. I get this one. The fact he played so bad in the Super
Bowl that it looked like the threw the game says it all. And the fact that
he had two picks so bad that they looked on purpose is unforgivable,
whether he did it on purpose or not. Either is inexcusable. And he never
made it back to the locker room ever again after that game. He is a
coward. And he proved how much the team made him vs. him making
the team, considering his career after Pgh.

I know many Steelers fans hate Neil O'Donnell, unjustly of course. He was a second round pick who took his team to the AFC Championship, and the Super Bowl in consecutive seasons. He was not drafted as a "franchise" quarterback, so I don't see how you can hold him to such a standard. He was always a solid quarterback, and until Donovan McNabb, was the least intercepted quarterback of all time, based on percentages.

He did what he was asked to do: manage the game. He was on a team with a great running game and a great defense. His objective was not to give the game away. That's how he got to the Super Bowl.

But then, all of the sudden, in the Super Bowl, against one of the greatest teams of the decade, possibly one of the greatest teams of all time, the Steelers need him to win the game because they find themselves down by 2 touchdowns? And you blame him for the loss?????? :rofl:

This is even assuming that the interceptions were his fault, which another poster has pointed out, is a false assumption. Only one of them was his fault.

The funniest thing about it all, he was run out of town following SB XXX; afterwords, we went to the AFC Championship game twice with Kordell Stewart (Kordell Stewart!!!!!), and even made the playoffs a few times with Mike Tomzak (Mike Tomzak!!!!!). We had to watch Kordell Stewart get benched in favor of Kent Grahm (Kent Grahm!!!!!!!). In another words, our quarterback situation was a debacle for like 10 years after O'Donnell left. Wouldn't you like to know what could have been if we had kept the solid quarterback we had? I know I do. I suspect we could have a few more Super Bowl rings.

cloppbeast
07-05-2011, 04:00 PM
1. TJ
2. Suggs
3. Bart Scott
4.Brady
5. the whole cowboys roster and their soft fans

I like your list much better. I would only insert Ray instead of Bart Scott. At least Scott helped the Jets beat the Patriots.

Dino 6 Rings
07-08-2011, 01:49 PM
Every single player in a uniform that is NOT Black and Gold is the Most Hated person for me.

IS THE EFFING LOCK OUT OVER YET!!!! GAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!

thumper
07-08-2011, 02:08 PM
Every single player in a uniform that is NOT Black and Gold is the Most Hated person for me.

IS THE EFFING LOCK OUT OVER YET!!!! GAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWDDDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!

I know a lot of Steeler fans thing like this: Any other player not
in Pgh should be hated. I don't feel this way. I just don't. I respect
and value excellence - and acknowledge it. At the same time,
I hate a Steeler if their existence causes us to lose. O'Donnell
turned out to be a punk. He would throw for 3 yards on 3rd down
when he needed 6, just to pad his completion %. He never stepped
foot inside of facilities after he blew SB.

Kordell was a ball and chain most of his career in Pgh. Had one
good year as QB, one good year being slash. Other than that, he
was simply too stupid to play QB. He never threw a pass to a WR
in stride in his life. Only way he could complete passes was to
have WR stop, turn and face him. Couldn't complete a deep
pass to save his life, unless it was a hail Mary in college. Not
only was he not a good leader, he was an anti-leader, saying
things that tried to absolve him from blame. Ben is so much
better in saying the right things. Maybe not all players love
Ben, but they all respect him and he makes the entire team
better. Kordell was not even "one of the guys" - ever. I read
when he had players over he was panicked that they all take
their shoes off and don't mess up his new curtains. True story.