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jkossis
07-31-2011, 11:13 AM
Every year we go through free agency and make minimal deals. Small additions where a few million is shelled out, but not much more. I'm not saying I'm against this, as we have had plenty of success with this formula. I am just baffled at how we have cap issues when there are teams like the Jets who over the last 3 years have signed tons of high-price free agents with no cap issue resulting. How can the jets sign holmes, cromartie, edwards, tomlinson, bart scott, revis, etc and still have more room than we did for Plax. I can guarantee you that if we had offered similar money, he would be at Latrobe right now. We just couldn't offer the money. So my main question after this entire digression is, can someone explain how we are in such cap hell?

55BaileyFan
07-31-2011, 11:17 AM
Who cares about Plex? We don't need another WR, I keep hearing people getting in an uproar over him but remember he wanted to leave us so stay out. Ward, Wallace, Sanders and Brown are good targets and we don't need another WR.

We are over cap because we had a bunch of players at the end of their deals so their money value was higher. Flozell was 5M against the cap, Starks was 7M against the cap, Troy was 11 against the cap and then there was Ike, Sepulveda, Foote (3M), El (2M) and those keep adding up.

They should be under the cap right now with all the releases and new deals.

jkossis
07-31-2011, 11:35 AM
Yeah, but what WHEN one of them gets hurt? Cause it will happen, this is football

LambertIsGod58
07-31-2011, 12:17 PM
inflated contracts for players past their prime. IE Harrison

Kingmagyar
07-31-2011, 03:40 PM
Wow Harrison led all 3-4 outside linebackers in tackles last year, had double digit sacks, and 6 forced fumbles, to go with 2 int. We can't say this man is over the hill based on last year's performance.

thumper
07-31-2011, 03:47 PM
Has it not occurred to anyone that Rooneys are always tight against
the cap because it gives them an excuse to not spend more $? There
are ways they could find more cap space, but they never seem interested
in such ways, as it would lead to them spending more $. If they are against
the cap, they can point at it, shrug their shoulders and say, "But what can we
do about it?" and close the office door and take a nap.

55BaileyFan
07-31-2011, 04:02 PM
Key is we don't need Plex to win. We have Ward, Wallace, Sanders, Brown...Heath is there, I think Wesyle Saunders will make the roster and should be a good target. And we have a great set of RB, lets run and throw when needed and we will be okay.

ebsteelers
07-31-2011, 04:10 PM
Has it not occurred to anyone that Rooneys are always tight against
the cap because it gives them an excuse to not spend more $? There
are ways they could find more cap space, but they never seem interested
in such ways, as it would lead to them spending more $. If they are against
the cap, they can point at it, shrug their shoulders and say, "But what can we
do about it?" and close the office door and take a nap.


you make it sound like they are doing something wrong.


6 super bowls
8 afc titles.... if they are doing something wrong then i dont wanna be right

steeltheone
07-31-2011, 04:13 PM
To many contracts to older players...Probably 10 plus to players over 33...They cost more.

truesteelerfan
07-31-2011, 09:27 PM
Knowing we're over makes me feel like none of us have any right to call the Rooneys cheap... What I want to know is how teams such as the Jets and Cheatriots can sign big name players like Santonio, Plex, Haynesworth, Chad Johnson, etc.....OK, maybe in NY their QB isn't making big time money yet cause he's young, so that frees up money, but what about in NE? I know they're Lord Goodell's pets, but isn't anyone else noticing how many big names they sign and still are under the cap?

steeltheone
08-01-2011, 02:33 AM
Knowing we're over makes me feel like none of us have any right to call the Rooneys cheap... What I want to know is how teams such as the Jets and Cheatriots can sign big name players like Santonio, Plex, Haynesworth, Chad Johnson, etc.....OK, maybe in NY their QB isn't making big time money yet cause he's young, so that frees up money, but what about in NE? I know they're Lord Goodell's pets, but isn't anyone else noticing how many big names they sign and still are under the cap?

The Patriots roster is one of the youngest in the league.....Not stuck with many overpaid players.

MasterOfPuppets
08-01-2011, 10:41 AM
Every year we go through free agency and make minimal deals. Small additions where a few million is shelled out, but not much more. I'm not saying I'm against this, as we have had plenty of success with this formula. I am just baffled at how we have cap issues when there are teams like the Jets who over the last 3 years have signed tons of high-price free agents with no cap issue resulting. How can the jets sign holmes, cromartie, edwards, tomlinson, bart scott, revis, etc and still have more room than we did for Plax. I can guarantee you that if we had offered similar money, he would be at Latrobe right now. We just couldn't offer the money. So my main question after this entire digression is, can someone explain how we are in such cap hell?
have a look...
http://www.steelersdepot.com/2011/02/steelers-2011-salary-cap-total-current-roster/

ben - .............15.8 million
woodley - ......10
troy - ...............8.5
harrison - ......7.3
starks - ..........2
hampton -.......7
smith - ............6
miller - ...........5.5
pouncey - ......5.4
ward - ............4.6
keisel - ...........4
kemo - ............4
farrior - ...........3.8
clark - .............3.2
foote - .............3
timmons - ......2.7
mcfadden - ....2.6

Fire Arians
08-01-2011, 10:54 AM
aaron smith should be cut this year imo

MasterOfPuppets
08-01-2011, 11:26 AM
aaron smith should be cut this year imo
i wouldn't say he should be cut , but his salary should be reduced, and i'm sure it will be. since they cut eason there's no way they can cut smith, they need the depth for rotation.

Farrior_roirraW
08-01-2011, 11:51 AM
i wouldn't say he should be cut , but his salary should be reduced, and i'm sure it will be. since they cut eason there's no way they can cut smith, they need the depth for rotation.

Yeah, they really need the depth in rotation but he has to take a pay cut. I was surprised when I saw 6 mil for Smith, somehow I thought he was getting paid 4 but anyways, he was definitely worth 6 mil a few years ago but not now between all the time he's missed (and the time he'll likely miss with a injury again this season) and Ziggy stepping up, it's too much.

Curtain_of_Steel
08-01-2011, 12:26 PM
Im hoping a decent CB gets cut, highly unlikely I guess.

But Smith and Foote just have no place here imo. After what ziggy did last year, where do we show a need to keep Smith? Has he been great, sure. But there is a time and a place to say adios and the time is now. Foote? I say zero need for him as we are stacked at LB and Farrior has shown no sign of slowing up.

We can lock up some long term deals, slice some dead weight and be looking great heading into next year without making a sacrifice. Plus we will probably lose Ward next year or potentially lose him do to his age.

Timmons, Woodley and Troy need to get squared away before each has a nother huge year. Timmons should still be reasonable. Woodley needs a 10year cap friendly gig till year 3-4 of the contract.

thumper
08-02-2011, 01:34 PM
have a look...
http://www.steelersdepot.com/2011/02/steelers-2011-salary-cap-total-current-roster/

ben - .............15.8 million
woodley - ......10
troy - ...............8.5
harrison - ......7.3
starks - ..........2
hampton -.......7
smith - ............6
miller - ...........5.5
pouncey - ......5.4
ward - ............4.6
keisel - ...........4
kemo - ............4
farrior - ...........3.8
clark - .............3.2
foote - .............3
timmons - ......2.7
mcfadden - ....2.6

Since when do you pay a back up LB $3 mill? Or a 36-year old LB $3.8 mill? Or
a DE who is always hurt $6 mill? Or a back up DE $4 mill? No Fing wonder
we don't have cap space. That is retarded. That is $17 mill right there that
is being spent moronically.

TheGumbas
08-02-2011, 02:00 PM
This is my first post ever, so take it for what it's worth. The Steelers have an excellent past when it comes to resigning their better players at a "less-than-market rate". If they become a major player in the free agent market you can forget about resigning their players at a "less-than-market rate" because their current players will feel slighted since the signed a "below-market" contract. Players love playing for the Steeler organization, and will take a little less to stay.

We all wanted better CB's, but imagine what would have happened if we paid for one ofthe top two CB's in free agency (Asomugha or Cromartie) to huge contracts? You might as well forget signing Timmons or Woodley to any reasonable contract! Polamalu would ask for the moon when his contract is up!

The Steelers win almost every year because they are very loyal to their drafted players, who have played wel, and when the do sign a free agent it is usually a second tier free agent! I prefer it this way, and I wouldn't trade it for them being active in the free agent market.

Go Steelers!