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thumper
08-03-2011, 01:24 PM
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11213/1164346-66.stm

Really no surprise. I _knew_ this was the case before I ever
read it. I know this team, this ownership. Sad thing is, they
COULD have easily found the $ with some obvious moves
other teams make. Why didn't they? Because the Rooneys
_do_ purposely let their total salaries come up against the cap
so they have the excuse not to pay more. You don't think they
could make Smith, Foote and a few others re-do their deals
and have offered as much $ as NY did? As soon as I heard
Plex signed for $3 million, I told some guys at the gym, "I guarantee
you Pgh offered something closer to $2 million, not 3 and I bet
Pgh's deal wasn't guaranteed." And what is coming out now? That
very thing.

Imagine this team with Plex on one side, Wallace on the other.
That would have been strong. As it is now, I am not sure I like
our chances vs. NE or NY to win the AFC again. But if we got
Plex, and we could have, I would like our chances. They could have
easily found the space to sign him. But they just point at the cap
and use it as their excuse to not pay, when in fact, they could easily
make moves to find more room. Oh, and now Sanders had to have
another surgery on his foot. Not good.

Rick5895
08-03-2011, 01:46 PM
Why would we pay 3 mil, guarenteed to a guy who has been out of football for 2 years and has questionable attitude?
I am glad he is with the loud mouth Jets. I have confidence our front office knows what they are doing. We have, after all been to 3 Super bowls the last 6 years without having to make this kind of signing. Desparate teams reach, I don't believe we are desparate. Sanders is injured and may or may not require surgery, I am sure someone else will step up in his place.
Just my opinion.

BIGNASTY91
08-03-2011, 02:14 PM
Im sure we will be OK and someone else will step up, they always do when we have our backs to the wall. But it still would have been nice not to have to worry about it and have Plax playing opposite of wallace! But oh well that was last week, so we can look ahead and see how things are gonna turn out. I really wanted Plax, but im over it now! Lets get ready for the SUPER BOWL!!!! :tt04: :tt02: :tt: :tt03: :drink:

ebsteelers
08-03-2011, 02:18 PM
always so damn negative, act like the rooneys dont know what they are doing..3 super bowl apperances in the past 5 years ...



thumper must be a closet ravens fan or something with all that negativity

thumper
08-03-2011, 02:23 PM
always so damn negative, act like the rooneys dont know what they are doing..3 super bowl apperances in the past 5 years ...



thumper must be a closet ravens fan or something with all that negativity

Umm, in case you missed it, we lost the Super Bowl last year.
And, in case you didn't realize it, REAL Steeler fans do not consider
losing the SB an acceptable thing. Follow the team for a few more
decades and maybe you will get it. Also, it's "appearances" not "apperances."

EB is obviously NOT a high school grad, yet.

zsheik22
08-03-2011, 02:48 PM
How are you going to get plax the ball when Ben is running for his life because our line is in shambles? WR at this point in the game was just a luxury. We need to sure up the O-line and the secondary before we think about adding more WR's.

truesteelerfan
08-03-2011, 02:51 PM
How are you going to get plax the ball when Ben is running for his life because our line is in shambles? WR at this point in the game was just a luxury. We need to sure up the O-line and the secondary before we think about adding more WR's.

I agree with this opinion. I don't feel Plex is an automatic starter for us after being out of the game a while. And that $2-3M could go to perhaps sign a young OL or CB which are areas we need. Jets can have him...hopefully all the egos in that locker room will bring the team down.

cloppbeast
08-03-2011, 02:52 PM
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11213/1164346-66.stm

Really no surprise. I _knew_ this was the case before I ever
read it. I know this team, this ownership. Sad thing is, they
COULD have easily found the $ with some obvious moves
other teams make. Why didn't they? Because the Rooneys
_do_ purposely let their total salaries come up against the cap
so they have the excuse not to pay more. You don't think they
could make Smith, Foote and a few others re-do their deals
and have offered as much $ as NY did? As soon as I heard
Plex signed for $3 million, I told some guys at the gym, "I guarantee
you Pgh offered something closer to $2 million, not 3 and I bet
Pgh's deal wasn't guaranteed." And what is coming out now? That
very thing.

Imagine this team with Plex on one side, Wallace on the other.
That would have been strong. As it is now, I am not sure I like
our chances vs. NE or NY to win the AFC again. But if we got
Plex, and we could have, I would like our chances. They could have
easily found the space to sign him. But they just point at the cap
and use it as their excuse to not pay, when in fact, they could easily
make moves to find more room. Oh, and now Sanders had to have
another surgery on his foot. Not good.

So in other words, the Steelers pay their players more then they have to in order to get closer to the cap, just so they have an excuse to be cheap?

Are you crazy? Think logically for a second, and you will notice how foolish your rant sounds.

ebsteelers
08-03-2011, 03:07 PM
Umm, in case you missed it, we lost the Super Bowl last year.
And, in case you didn't realize it, REAL Steeler fans do not consider
losing the SB an acceptable thing. Follow the team for a few more
decades and maybe you will get it. Also, it's "appearances" not "apperances."

EB is obviously NOT a high school grad, yet.

I guess the best you can do is insult me based off of one misspelling. I'll take being a college grad with a full time job and one misspelling. Its an internet forum. Relax...



"real steeler fans" aren't so damn negative either. Where did i saying losing in the Super Bowl is acceptable? We did not lose the Super Bowl cause of our wide outs.

You act like Plax would of won us the Super Bowl. Where was Plax for the last 2 Super Bowl Wins?

ebsteelers
08-03-2011, 03:09 PM
So in other words, the Steelers pay their players more then they have to in order to get closer to the cap, just so they have an excuse to be cheap?

Are you crazy? Think logically for a second, and you will notice how foolish your rant sounds.

he has the logic of the smartest man in the world... and the rest of us havent reached 5th grade... didnt you know that? lol

remember the Rooneys do not have a clue on how to run a team.. obviously thumper should be the owner, gm, head coach, qb, wr, lb, and cb

ebsteelers
08-03-2011, 03:12 PM
Rooney's, Steelers Organization 6 Super Bowl Wins
Dumper 0 Super Bowl Wins

I think Steeler Nation will take the word of the Steelers Organization over dumper

Sixburgher
08-03-2011, 03:21 PM
Rooney's, Steelers Organization 6 Super Bowl Wins
Dumper 0 Super Bowl Wins

I think Steeler Nation will take the word of the Steelers Organization over dumper

I'm sure he'll dig up and link some conspiracy videos he found on YouTube to show that the Rooneys are intentionally spending too much against the cap as an excuse to not pay players more in free agency.

thumper
08-03-2011, 04:13 PM
How are you going to get plax the ball when Ben is running for his life because our line is in shambles? WR at this point in the game was just a luxury. We need to sure up the O-line and the secondary before we think about adding more WR's.

Oh yea? So show me the FA signings they've been making to do that.
Oops. Oh, and don't tell be by re-signing Colon and Ike. They were
already on the team that sucked at OL and DB to begin with.

thumper
08-03-2011, 04:18 PM
Rooney's, Steelers Organization 6 Super Bowl Wins
Dumper 0 Super Bowl Wins

I think Steeler Nation will take the word of the Steelers Organization over dumper

Ebitch # of cognitive, intelligent, insightful posts = 0

thumper
08-03-2011, 04:21 PM
I agree with this opinion. I don't feel Plex is an automatic starter for us after being out of the game a while. And that $2-3M could go to perhaps sign a young OL or CB which are areas we need. Jets can have him...hopefully all the egos in that locker room will bring the team down.

OK, tell me when they do spend the $3 million on a decent O lineman or
CB. Then tell me what it all means when they don't.

thumper
08-03-2011, 04:23 PM
I'm sure he'll dig up and link some conspiracy videos he found on YouTube to show that the Rooneys are intentionally spending too much against the cap as an excuse to not pay players more in free agency.

Try to pay attention to avoid embarrassment. I never asserted they
"spend too much $ against the cap" as an excuse to not pay players.
If you are going to argue against something, at least argue what was
actually asserted, and not form some straw man argument that makes
you look like you just crapped in your pants in public.

Sixburgher
08-03-2011, 04:31 PM
Try to pay attention to avoid embarrassment. I never asserted they
"spend too much $ against the cap" as an excuse to not pay players.
If you are going to argue against something, at least argue what was
actually asserted, and not form some straw man argument that makes
you look like you just crapped in your pants in public.

Because the Rooneys
_do_ purposely let their total salaries come up against the cap
so they have the excuse not to pay more.

Your words, not mine.

Here's an ad hominem for you as a bonus: YOU'RE A COMPLETE AND TOTAL ASS.

stb_steeler
08-03-2011, 04:48 PM
And if.....and i say "If".....Plex would happen to suck from being out of football awhile, there would be the normal posers on here saying....Man im glad we didnt pick him up!

ebsteelers
08-03-2011, 05:16 PM
dumper

your posts are so well thought out.... i forgot you know everything...
if it was up to you we'd sign every fa out there... are you sure your not a eagles, or redskin fan?
wanting to signing anyone and everyone who espn hypes up




like i said earlier

Steelers 6
Dumper 0

thumper
08-03-2011, 05:19 PM
Your words, not mine.

Here's an ad hominem for you as a bonus: YOU'RE A COMPLETE AND TOTAL ASS.

"Let their salaries come up against the cap"

Vs.

"Rooneys are intentionally spending too much against the cap as an excuse to not pay players more in free agency."

Let me help you out here. The two statements do not assert the same
thing, but your inability to read and comprehend has you by the short
hairs, as it probably does in your attempt to earn as well. Not being
able to differentiate between two statements asserting varying
points is a problem. I never asserted the Rooneys "intentionally spend
too much" against the cap. That is full-blown retarded. They _do_ - as
was asserted - refuse to manage the cap in a way to create more space
under the cap. That is entire different than saying they "intentionally spend
too much."

If you aren't afraid to spend cash, you can find
cap space my using signing bonuses more frequently. Pgh has done a
little of that, but they could do more, but for some reason (take a guess)
choose not to use that technique as much as they could.

As long as they don't create too much cap space, they can use the
lack of cap space as an excuse to not spend as much, as, in this case,
for Plex. But, just keep living in your ad hominem world. It seems fitting
and quite appropriate for your level.

I would give you an ad hominem attack in response to yours, but it's just
not in accordance with my elevation. So, in the future, carefully peruse
assertions without making assumptions and your take will be far more
accurate.

I'm in the Burgh, TRICK

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zfQycD2mVA

thumper
08-03-2011, 05:20 PM
dumper

your posts are so well thought out your getting laughed right off the board...

i forgot you know everything...


like i said earlier

Steelers 6
Dumper 0

The next time you post an insightful, cognitive post will be your first.

Thanks for playing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zfQycD2mVA

ebsteelers
08-03-2011, 05:23 PM
Steelers 6
Dumper 0

is more insightful, and cognitive then any thing you post.


you basically are saying the Rooneys are cheap and do not know how to run a team... This isn't madden.


when you bring something intelligent to the table, then you'll get more insightful posts, just like everyone else here at Steeler Fever gets.

Go Steelers!

Sixburgher
08-03-2011, 05:29 PM
The next time you post an insightful, cognitive post will be your first.

Thanks for playing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zfQycD2mVA

Likewise - haven't seen one from you yet either. :blah: :blah: :blah:

Sixburgher
08-03-2011, 05:31 PM
"Let their salaries come up against the cap"

Vs.

"Rooneys are intentionally spending too much against the cap as an excuse to not pay players more in free agency."

Let me help you out here. The two statements do not assert the same
thing, but your inability to read and comprehend has you by the short
hairs, as it probably does in your attempt to earn as well. Not being
able to differentiate between two statements asserting varying
points is a problem. I never asserted the Rooneys "intentionally spend
too much" against the cap. That is full-blown retarded. They _do_ - as
was asserted - refuse to manage the cap in a way to create more space
under the cap. That is entire different than saying they "intentionally spend
too much."

If you aren't afraid to spend cash, you can find
cap space my using signing bonuses more frequently. Pgh has done a
little of that, but they could do more, but for some reason (take a guess)
choose not to use that technique as much as they could.

As long as they don't create too much cap space, they can use the
lack of cap space as an excuse to not spend as much, as, in this case,
for Plex. But, just keep living in your ad hominem world. It seems fitting
and quite appropriate for your level.

I would give you an ad hominem attack in response to yours, but it's just
not in accordance with my elevation. So, in the future, carefully peruse
assertions without making assumptions and your take will be far more
accurate.

I'm in the Burgh, TRICK

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zfQycD2mVA

:blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah:

That's all this is. The only thing worse than a complete ignoramus is a condescending one who labors under the illusion that they possess some great intellect. Hint: you don't.

ebsteelers
08-03-2011, 05:32 PM
Likewise - haven't seen one from you yet either. :blah: :blah: :blah:

haha sharp post here. :tt04:



Sixburgher,
let him keep playing madden, and will enjoy the real Steelers :helmet:

MasterOfPuppets
08-03-2011, 05:37 PM
:popcorn:

thumper
08-03-2011, 05:39 PM
haha sharp post here. :tt04:



Sixburgher,
let him keep playing madden, and will enjoy the real Steelers :helmet:

You enjoy the real Steelers? How many games have you been to? Ever
have season tickets? Ever have tickets for the luxury box seats?

PhantomJB93
08-03-2011, 05:48 PM
Can you blame him? He may be famous, but he just spent two years in jail and probably lost A LOT of his money. You can be broke and famous at the same time.

And I think $3 mil is very generous given his circumstances, in fact if the Rooneys paid more than that for him when we could have had a serviceable corner or OT for the same, or even a cheaper price, I'd be outraged.

ebsteelers
08-03-2011, 06:00 PM
You enjoy the real Steelers? How many games have you been to? Ever
have season tickets? Ever have tickets for the luxury box seats?

thats what you consider a real steeler fan, basically anyone that doesnt have a lot of money is not a real fan..


you are a moron... no point in even discuss this with you

Atlanta Dan
08-03-2011, 06:51 PM
Ever have tickets for the luxury box seats?

WTF?:noidea:

PhantomJB93
08-03-2011, 07:01 PM
If anything, I'd argue the "real" fans are the ones who DON'T go to games in luxury suites...:noidea:

ebsteelers
08-03-2011, 07:58 PM
If anything, I'd argue the "real" fans are the ones who DON'T go to games in luxury suites...:noidea:

agreed,

i guess a majority of pittsburgh isn't real fans.

taking in a playoff game in the cold, snow and windy at heinz is what i would consider a "real fan" if were going strictly off attending games


how many people can really afford luxury seats, and season tickets?

i dont live near heinz field...

ebsteelers
08-03-2011, 08:00 PM
and back to the what the topic was about

rather than having plax i think i'd rather have Randy Moss, if it was strictly based on production. maybe even gulp T.O
Randy Moss could be a deep threat, and he still a hell of an athlete

zsheik22
08-04-2011, 09:29 AM
Oh yea? So show me the FA signings they've been making to do that.
Oops. Oh, and don't tell be by re-signing Colon and Ike. They were
already on the team that sucked at OL and DB to begin with.




Ok and what do you think would happern if the steelers lost Ike? You'd rather have plaxico lining up at WR with Gay and Bmac as our starting corners? There are some decent linemen out there who are waiting for some teams. After they restructure some contracts and maybe make a few more cuts, they will be able to afford one.


This team has some superstars, and they're not cheap.

zsheik22
08-04-2011, 09:35 AM
agreed,

i guess a majority of pittsburgh isn't real fans.

taking in a playoff game in the cold, snow and windy at heinz is what i would consider a "real fan" if were going strictly off attending games


how many people can really afford luxury seats, and season tickets?

i dont live near heinz field...


I just spent like $1200 on some mediocre tickets and I really shouldnt have. I'm at the end of my deployment though and have had to wake up at 3 AM last season to watch their games. Figured I would treat myself and the wife since she's never been to a game.

I didnt get luxury boxes though, so im not a real fan. May as well just sell the tickets and memorabilia. I hear the jaguars have some cheap tickets, maybe I could be a superfan with them!

ebsteelers
08-04-2011, 10:42 AM
I just spent like $1200 on some mediocre tickets and I really shouldnt have. I'm at the end of my deployment though and have had to wake up at 3 AM last season to watch their games. Figured I would treat myself and the wife since she's never been to a game.

I didnt get luxury boxes though, so im not a real fan. May as well just sell the tickets and memorabilia. I hear the jaguars have some cheap tickets, maybe I could be a superfan with them!

hahaha, i got a great kick out of that ., lmao jaguars , theyd have to give me 1200 to go watch them play..


:tt04: what game are you going to?

thumper
08-04-2011, 02:56 PM
Luxury club seats are not behind glass. They are outside, just in case you didn't
know. It's the access to club that makes the seats amazing. The club is such an
awesome experience. Now _that's_ the way to do a Steelers' game. Club seats
are at the 200 level.

http://www.gotickets.com/venues/pa/heinz_field.php

The tics often come with a parking pass that puts you next
to the stadiums (where the players park) and a pre-game tail gate, with mad free
food and booze, under a closed off tent. They have fresh carved roast beef, lamb,
etc. All free. Totally sweet.

Oh, and I never paid for those seats. Been comped every time. But I would pay
for them; they are worth it, especially if you only make a few games a year.

I have also been to a plethora of games sans the club seats. Loved it all, but now,
I kind of am spoiled with the club seats.

thumper
08-04-2011, 03:00 PM
Ok and what do you think would happern if the steelers lost Ike?

Why? Are the two mutually exclusive? The Jets signed Holmes AND
a bunch of other free agents that they added to their team as well.
You act as if Pgh could only do one or the other, but that assertion is
not logical or based in truth.


You'd rather have plaxico lining up at WR with Gay and Bmac as our starting corners?

When did I assert that? Another case of a straw man argument.


This team has some superstars, and they're not cheap.

But Jets or Eagles did not? Wow. I had no idea those teams were
void of star players before the free agency went down. I must be out
of touch.

thumper
08-04-2011, 03:02 PM
agreed,

i guess a majority of pittsburgh isn't real fans.

taking in a playoff game in the cold, snow and windy at heinz is what i would consider a "real fan" if were going strictly off attending games


how many people can really afford luxury seats, and season tickets?

i dont live near heinz field...

Ok, I have been to a myriad of play off games, sitting in the cold, outside.
How many have you been to?

thumper
08-04-2011, 03:07 PM
:blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah:

That's all this is. The only thing worse than a complete ignoramus is a condescending one who labors under the illusion that they possess some great intellect. Hint: you don't.

Hint: You're just a bench warmer.

http://www.pxleyes.com/images/users/S/Sarah06/3188/fullsize/4dd25bd6dae4f.png

thumper
08-04-2011, 03:10 PM
thats what you consider a real steeler fan, basically anyone that doesnt have a lot of money is not a real fan..


you are a moron... no point in even discuss this with you

Straw man argument alert. Never asserted only those fans with $
are real fans. But let me guess: Your response is another way of
saying, "I've never actually been to a game in Pgh." If you had been,
you'd know the difference between having done so and not. I can
see you don't know. OK, fine. Maybe you have been to Steelers games
in an away forum, closer to where you live. Have you don't that? Or
were you too busy playing Madden?

Danny136200
08-04-2011, 03:13 PM
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11213/1164346-66.stm

Really no surprise. I _knew_ this was the case before I ever
read it. I know this team, this ownership. Sad thing is, they
COULD have easily found the $ with some obvious moves
other teams make. Why didn't they? Because the Rooneys
_do_ purposely let their total salaries come up against the cap
so they have the excuse not to pay more. You don't think they
could make Smith, Foote and a few others re-do their deals
and have offered as much $ as NY did? As soon as I heard
Plex signed for $3 million, I told some guys at the gym, "I guarantee
you Pgh offered something closer to $2 million, not 3 and I bet
Pgh's deal wasn't guaranteed." And what is coming out now? That
very thing.

Imagine this team with Plex on one side, Wallace on the other.
That would have been strong. As it is now, I am not sure I like
our chances vs. NE or NY to win the AFC again. But if we got
Plex, and we could have, I would like our chances. They could have
easily found the space to sign him. But they just point at the cap
and use it as their excuse to not pay, when in fact, they could easily
make moves to find more room. Oh, and now Sanders had to have
another surgery on his foot. Not good.

You know, we HAVE to spend three million dollars on a 34 year old, egotistical, haven't played for 2 years because he shot himself, wide receiver, he would put us over the top!

Or, how about not spend that money, get under the cap, and let the young receivers that we have flourish.

ebsteelers
08-04-2011, 03:13 PM
Ok, I have been to a myriad of play off games, sitting in the cold, outside.
How many have you been to?

the only thing you keep bringing about in relation to a real steeler fan is having money to go to games..

and if you want to talk about going to games makes you a real fan, how about being there in December when Pittsburgh is out of the hunt, that would make you more of a "real" fan, then going to a playoff game

ebsteelers
08-04-2011, 03:14 PM
Straw man argument alert. Never asserted only those fans with $
are real fans. But let me guess: Your response is another way of
saying, "I've never actually been to a game in Pgh." If you had been,
you'd know the difference between having done so and not. I can
see you don't know. OK, fine. Maybe you have been to Steelers games
in an away forum, closer to where you live. Have you don't that? Or
were you too busy playing Madden?

i have been to games before, like i said no point in arguing with someone like you.. not worth my time

SteelCityMom
08-04-2011, 03:15 PM
Ok, I have been to a myriad of play off games, sitting in the cold, outside.
How many have you been to?

Why would that matter to anyone who isn't self-absorbed and egotistical?

Do you HAVE to attend games to be a real fan?

(both rhetorical questions...the answer to each question respectively is "it shouldn't" and "hell no")

It seems this kind of topic gets tossed around every year....and it's usually started by some guy thumping his chest about how much more of a fan he is than anyone else. In the meantime all that does is make said individual(s) look like total jackasses...which is probably their main mission in life anyhow.


All you have to do to be a fan is cheer your team on, support their efforts and be loyal. Everything else is just extra. If people choose to spend their extra money on tickets and merchandise...fantastic for them. Not everybody can do that though. Simple fact of life. Sitting on a message board and judging other people's fandom though is completely asinine and ridiculous (not to mention sad).

/rant

ebsteelers
08-04-2011, 03:18 PM
Why would that matter to anyone who isn't self-absorbed and egotistical?

Do you HAVE to attend games to be a real fan?

(both rhetorical questions...the answer to each question respectively is "it shouldn't" and "hell no")

It seems this kind of topic gets tossed around every year....and it's usually started by some guy thumping his chest about how much more of a fan he is than anyone else. In the meantime all that does is make said individual(s) look like total jackasses...which is probably their main mission in life anyhow.


All you have to do to be a fan is cheer your team on, support their efforts and be loyal. Everything else is just extra. If people choose to spend their extra money on tickets and merchandise...fantastic for them. Not everybody can do that though. Simple fact of life. Sitting on a message board and judging other people's fandom though is completely asinine and ridiculous (not to mention sad).

/rant


well said :tt04:

SteelCityMom
08-04-2011, 03:18 PM
You know, we HAVE to spend three million dollars on a 34 year old, egotistical, haven't played for 2 years because he shot himself, wide receiver, he would put us over the top!

Or, how about not spend that money, get under the cap, and let the young receivers that we have flourish.

:rofl:

Quoted for truth!

I don't get why so many are up in arms over Plax not signing here. Big freaking deal...I didn't want him back to begin with. And it's always easier to teach the young guys new tricks anyhow.

ebsteelers
08-04-2011, 03:19 PM
:rofl:

Quoted for truth!

I don't get why so many are up in arms over Plax not signing here. Big freaking deal...I didn't want him back to begin with. And it's always easier to teach the young guys new tricks anyhow.

wouldnt people rather (if we needed to sign a wide out) malcom floyd? someone who played and produced last year, or randy moss (who would shut up for a year if needed)

SteelCityMom
08-04-2011, 03:32 PM
wouldnt people rather (if we needed to sign a wide out) malcom floyd? someone who played and produced last year, or randy moss (who would shut up for a year if needed)

Maybe, if you really feel you need a veteran presence on the team in that area. Myself, I get more excited about the younger group of players...and I'm pretty positive the coaches do too.

The WR position just wasn't one of my concerns this year, we just need a capable guy to come in for a decent price to fill El's spot basically. Don't need anything fancy, just someone capable and healthy.

The whole Plax thing just reeked like the Jagr thing did with the Pens. Just gambles that could end up being a waste of money.

Buddha Bus
08-04-2011, 03:42 PM
Why would that matter to anyone who isn't self-absorbed and egotistical?

Do you HAVE to attend games to be a real fan?

(both rhetorical questions...the answer to each question respectively is "it shouldn't" and "hell no")

It seems this kind of topic gets tossed around every year....and it's usually started by some guy thumping his chest about how much more of a fan he is than anyone else. In the meantime all that does is make said individual(s) look like total jackasses...which is probably their main mission in life anyhow.


All you have to do to be a fan is cheer your team on, support their efforts and be loyal. Everything else is just extra. If people choose to spend their extra money on tickets and merchandise...fantastic for them. Not everybody can do that though. Simple fact of life. Sitting on a message board and judging other people's fandom though is completely asinine and ridiculous (not to mention sad).

/rant

:applaudit::applaudit::applaudit::applaudit:

solardave
08-04-2011, 03:57 PM
Why would we pay 3 mil, guarenteed to a guy who has been out of football for 2 years and has questionable attitude?
I am glad he is with the loud mouth Jets. I have confidence our front office knows what they are doing. We have, after all been to 3 Super bowls the last 6 years without having to make this kind of signing. Desparate teams reach, I don't believe we are desparate. Sanders is injured and may or may not require surgery, I am sure someone else will step up in his place.
Just my opinion.

For what it's worth my opinion too. We don't need him. Say what you want about the Rooney family being cheap. We still win!!! Everyone with any sense copies what we do and they are winning too. LONG TERM is the way to go. Not that Daniel Snyder BS where you try to buy a SB.

thumper
08-04-2011, 04:04 PM
In case you missed it, I didn't even bring up anything about being a real
fan, others did. They claimed that since I wanted Plex, I must play Madden
football instead of being a "real fan." So, take it up with them.

And I disagree that WR is not a concern. Do you realize what our current unit
features in terms of healthy bodies in camp? We might have to actually rely
on Sweed, even if he looks just as shitty as usual.

Sanders has a bum, and possibly chronic, foot. Hines has bad thumb. Brown
is not a legit 1 or 2 or even 3. El is gone. What's that leave us with?

Wallace, who basically still can only run a 9 route. Barely see him running
anything else.

So, we will have Wallace on one side, running a 9 route all the time and on the
other side have Sweed, who will drop whatever route he does run. And a still
very green Brown at slot. That would be the worst WR unit in the NFL>.

thumper
08-04-2011, 04:09 PM
For what it's worth my opinion too. We don't need him. Say what you want about the Rooney family being cheap. We still win!!! Everyone with any sense copies what we do and they are winning too. LONG TERM is the way to go. Not that Daniel Snyder BS where you try to buy a SB.

I guess I should resign to the fact that I have to repeat this
forever. There ________________IS_______________ a middle
ground between operating as Danny Snyder and what the Rooneys
do. It's not that you have to be one or the other, there is middle ground
that could be superior to what either does.

The Rooney always make sure they are snug to the cap, so they can
appear to have little options in signing a few free agents. Truth be known,
they could make a little more effort to find more room, but they choose not
to, with most fans being duped into thinking they have no other choice.
Bottom line is, they don't like the taste of having to dish out cash up
front in signing bonuses. The more than can avoid that, the happier
they are.

Sixburgher
08-04-2011, 04:20 PM
Hint: You're just a bench warmer.

http://www.pxleyes.com/images/users/S/Sarah06/3188/fullsize/4dd25bd6dae4f.png

Hint:

http://logicalpoint.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/douchebag.jpeg

ebsteelers
08-04-2011, 04:37 PM
Umm, in case you missed it, we lost the Super Bowl last year.
And, in case you didn't realize it, REAL Steeler fans do not consider
losing the SB an acceptable thing. Follow the team for a few more
decades and maybe you will get it. Also, it's "appearances" not "apperances."

EB is obviously NOT a high school grad, yet.

lol right there you brought it up... when i said you were a closet raven fan... forgot so soon?

ebsteelers
08-04-2011, 04:58 PM
o and by the way plax is already got a tweak, whatd that take all of 20 seconds

tucker6
08-05-2011, 06:21 AM
Sad that people like Thumper exist in Steeler Nation, if indeed he is part of the Nation. You have to trust the organization and people that have won the SB six times, and been to two others. That's a sure sign of excellence, and I do not question the football IQ of any Rooney. Period. I've moved on from Plax, and so should all of us. We'll have 53 other men to worry about come opening game.

Rick5895
08-05-2011, 06:58 AM
Sad that people like Thumper exist in Steeler Nation, if indeed he is part of the Nation. You have to trust the organization and people that have won the SB six times, and been to two others. That's a sure sign of excellence, and I do not question the football IQ of any Rooney. Period. I've moved on from Plax, and so should all of us. We'll have 53 other men to worry about come opening game.


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zsheik22
08-05-2011, 02:40 PM
Why? Are the two mutually exclusive? The Jets signed Holmes AND
a bunch of other free agents that they added to their team as well.
You act as if Pgh could only do one or the other, but that assertion is
not logical or based in truth.


You'd rather have plaxico lining up at WR with Gay and Bmac as our starting corners?

When did I assert that? Another case of a straw man argument.


But Jets or Eagles did not? Wow. I had no idea those teams were
void of star players before the free agency went down. I must be out
of touch.



Majority of those guys are one their first contract and less costly. Give these teams a few years and theyre going to have serious cap issues.

It's not a straw man argument either. They dont have the money and it isnt because the reasons you mentioned. No idea why you're such a bitter person. You need a hug, buddy? This is a one time offer.


EBST - The Ravens game!!!!

ebsteelers
08-05-2011, 02:48 PM
ebst?

zsheik22
08-05-2011, 02:55 PM
ebst?




Just lazy typing

ebsteelers
08-05-2011, 03:02 PM
haha o okay..

i thought it was something about me and the ravens game week 1. lol

cause i saw eb... and st i thought might be extreme short hand for steelers lol

zsheik22
08-05-2011, 03:48 PM
haha o okay..

i thought it was something about me and the ravens game week 1. lol

cause i saw eb... and st i thought might be extreme short hand for steelers lol



Just saying I got tickets to the Steelers Vs Ravens game at Heinz field.