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83-Steelers-43
05-30-2006, 12:34 PM
Ex-Argo Theismann calls Williams 'disgrace to game'ESPN.com news services


Ricky Williams will continue to play professional football with the CFL's Toronto Argonauts while he is suspended for one year by the NFL, and one high-profile ex-Argonaut isn't thrilled by the move.

Former quarterback Joe Theismann, who began his professional career with the Argonauts and later went on to star in the NFL with the Redskins, said he was "embarrassed right now to be a Toronto Argonaut" in an interview with ESPN Radio's Colin Cowherd.

"I don't ever want to be mentioned in the same breath as Ricky Williams as a football player. He's a disgrace to the game. The man doesn't deserve to play football. He should go on with his life and treat his drug addictions or go do whatever he wants to do. He's been suspended from the National Football League on multiple occasions. Doesn't anybody have any class anywhere? For gosh sakes, let the kid go do what he wants to do. He doesn't want to play football," Theismann, who is part of ESPN's Monday Night Football announcing crew, said.

Williams was suspended by the NFL for the entire 2006 season following a fourth positive drug test. But the Dolphins gave him permission to play this year in the CFL, and he signed with Toronto on Sunday.

Theismann, while calling Williams a "good kid" said he believes that the running back has had too many chances.

"We have rules in the National Football League. It's real simple. Don't do drugs and you can play. It's a privilege to be able to play professional football. It's not some rite of passage. He's insulted the Miami Dolphins after they took him back and gave him a chance to play. Now he insults the intelligence of everybody that thinks that doing drugs is OK. To me, it's the wrong message to send to kids. It's the wrong thing to be doing, and the Toronto Argonauts have embarrassed themselves as an organization signing him," Theismann said.

Toronto has won the Grey Cup -- the CFL championship -- 15 times, most recently in 2004. The Argonauts were 11-7 last season.

83-Steelers-43
05-30-2006, 12:35 PM
Wow, Theismann made a statement that actually made sense and had substance.

NJarhead
05-30-2006, 12:42 PM
Wow, Theismann made a statement that actually made sense and had substance.

But you're still talking about a guy who changed the pronunciation of his family name to rhyme with that of a college trophy. I think my Dad would rather I smoked pot...or ask me if I already was.

83-Steelers-43
05-30-2006, 12:50 PM
Well, what he did with his last name aside, it's refreshing to hear somebody actually speak out against idiots like Ricky Williams instead of trying to make excuses for they're actions.

On that note, by no means am I a Theismann fan.

Ambridge
05-30-2006, 12:56 PM
I think what Joe has said is how a lot of NFL fans feel towards players getting repeated chances for drugs and/or stupid behavior.
The league needs to start increasing the severity of the penalties for players that refuse
to "get it" and learn.


IMO a second offense of the league substance abuse policy should garner a permanent ban from the NFL.

NJarhead
05-30-2006, 12:59 PM
Well, what he did with his last name aside, it's refreshing to hear somebody actually speak out against idiots like Ricky Williams instead of trying to make excuses for they're actions.

On that note, by no means am I a Theismann fan.


Me niether. I'm dreading MNF this year. All he does is yap about the QB. "He's not a good QB" or "Those other 10 guys aren't doing enough to help out the QB" or "He should be ejected and his family shot for that hit on the QB" or "when I was a QB....." SHUUUUUUT UUUUUP JOE!!! Makes me want to puke.

83-Steelers-43
05-30-2006, 01:01 PM
IMO a second offense of the league substance abuse policy should garner a permanent ban from the NFL.

I'll second that opinion.

Petesburgh66
05-30-2006, 10:41 PM
in an interview with ESPN Radio's Colin Cowherd.

What? What a load of BS. The interview was conducted on the morning show of the Fan 590 in Toronto and you can listen to it here on their site under Hot Audio.

http://www.fan590.com/

ESPN = worldwide rip off of taking credit for something they freaking didn't do. Give me a break.

83-Steelers-43
05-30-2006, 10:51 PM
Geez..............

I have a feeling I'm going to wake up tomorrow morning, turn on FOX news and see a news alert pertaining to a Canadian male walking into ESPN HQ with a shotgun under each arm screaming "IT WAS ON THE FAN 590 IN TORONTO!!!!"

:m16: :wantsome: :rocket: :dualies: :bringit: :whatnow:

Petesburgh66
05-31-2006, 11:58 AM
Sorry, it bugs me when somebody else gets credit for something they didn't do. Especially, when douchebag (Cowherd) is involved.

ESPN radio is waste of air time.

83-Steelers-43
05-31-2006, 12:01 PM
Sorry, it bugs me when somebody else gets credit for something they didn't do. Especially, when douchebag (Cowherd) is involved.

ESPN radio is waste of air time.

Just j/k with ya. Glad to hear ESPN was not attacked...lol.

Suitanim
05-31-2006, 05:50 PM
You know, as I was reading this, I could actually hear him saying these things in that completely annoying know-it-all voice of his, and I started to go into "Anti-Joe" mode. Even though I basically agree with what he said, I just hate that tool so much that I can't even agree with him without great dificulty.

And we have what? THREE MNF games this year that he'll be calling? Thank Christ I'll be at the opener so I don't have to hear him!

hardwork
05-31-2006, 05:59 PM
Me niether. I'm dreading MNF this year. All he does is yap about the QB. "He's not a good QB" or "Those other 10 guys aren't doing enough to help out the QB" or "He should be ejected and his family shot for that hit on the QB" or "when I was a QB....." SHUUUUUUT UUUUUP JOE!!! Makes me want to puke.

Lol

Jimmy James
06-03-2006, 02:14 AM
Joe has had it out for the Dolphins ever since they had the "gall" to draft him. What a loser. I can't believe I'll have to listen to him on MNF.

I'm sympathetic to Ricky because I think his drug problem comes from a very different place than most of them do. He broke the rules, though. He deserves punishment. My hope is that he gets himself right in this year he'll be up in Canada. He definitely has some mental health demons that can't be fun, but ganja is not the solution.

I.C. Lights
06-08-2006, 09:50 PM
You know, as I was reading this, I could actually hear him saying these things in that completely annoying know-it-all voice of his, and I started to go into "Anti-Joe" mode. Even though I basically agree with what he said, I just hate that tool so much that I can't even agree with him without great dificulty.

And we have what? THREE MNF games this year that he'll be calling? Thank Christ I'll be at the opener so I don't have to hear him!

OMG, I was thinking the exact same thing. It doesn't matter what he says anymore because he's always bitching or whining about something and telling us why everyone is wrong. Can't stand him - and I'm even a big Notre Dame fan too!

83-Steelers-43
07-23-2006, 08:00 AM
This is definately going to hamper his joint rolling and bong toking abilities......

Williams out indefinitely after breaking arm
Associated Press

REGINA, Saskatchewan -- Running back Ricky Williams broke his left arm in the second quarter of the Toronto Argonauts' 26-23 victory over the Saskatchewan Roughriders on Saturday night and is out indefinitely.

Argonauts coach Mike "Pinball" Clemons confirmed the injury but did not specify which bone was broken.

"He has a broken arm, so he's going to be out for a little while," Clemons said.

Williams, who was not available for interviews, left the game midway through the second quarter after a 3-yard gain when he was tackled by several Saskatchewan players, including linebacker Mike McCullough. X-rays taken at a Regina hospital revealed a broken bone.

"He was actually holding himself off the ground," Clemons said of Williams. "He was running with the ball and he was trying to hold himself up, I think. It was a pile of people and we saw him coming down.

"We knew he was hurt when he came off the field. It looked like it was his shoulder [from] the way he was leaning, but it turned out be his arm.

"You're talking about some fortitude. It's a clean break. He just came off quiet, didn't say a thing. Like, I'd have been screaming."

Williams finished with 17 yards on four carries, including one run of 16 yards. He entered Saturday's game sixth in the league in rushing with 214 yards on 53 carries with one touchdown in four games.

Williams is playing in the CFL after he was suspended by the NFL for one year after violating the league's substance abuse policy for a fourth time. He is still under contract with the NFL's Miami Dolphins.

Any games Williams misses will be the first he sits out due to injury since a broken left ankle forced him to miss the last six games of the 2000 NFL season, when he was with the New Orleans Saints.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2527404

BlackNGold203
07-23-2006, 08:17 AM
Wow..that must be painful......

He will definitely need some medicinal marijuana.....:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

silver & black
07-23-2006, 09:25 AM
You know, as I was reading this, I could actually hear him saying these things in that completely annoying know-it-all voice of his, and I started to go into "Anti-Joe" mode. Even though I basically agree with what he said, I just hate that tool so much that I can't even agree with him without great dificulty.

And we have what? THREE MNF games this year that he'll be calling? Thank Christ I'll be at the opener so I don't have to hear him!
I hear ya. I can't stand that egotistical, pompous, whiny little............

MNF is going to be hard to endure with that jackass commentating.

LambertIsGod58
07-23-2006, 11:28 AM
Yeah, I 'm not a Joe fan either.....He comes off as a know it all and really doesn't know sh*t. He was a decent quarterback in his day....you'd think he'd know more about the game.

MattsMe
07-23-2006, 06:36 PM
Yeah, I 'm not a Joe fan either.....He comes off as a know it all and really doesn't know sh*t. He was a decent quarterback in his day....you'd think he'd know more about the game.

While I'm not a big fan of Theismann as a commentator, or even as a quarterback, I have to give him credit for picking the Steelers to win SB XL. While lots of the talking heads jumped on board after we won the AFC, Theismann actually made his prediction in August.

http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Article.php?Page=719&Category=5

He also made another eerily accurate prediction in 2001.


Theismann: "The New England Patriots will win Super Bowl XXXVI."
Cold, Hard Football Facts: New England beat St. Louis in Super Bowl XXXVI, in one of the great upsets in modern NFL history.

Theismann: ?The Rams have been susceptible to turnovers.?
Cold, Hard Football Facts: The Rams blew Super Bowl XXXVI by committing three turnovers.

Theismann: ?(New England running back) Antowain Smith may run for only 80 yards, but every yard he gains will be valuable toward their ability to control the football and keep it away from the Rams' offense.?
Cold, Hard Football Facts: Smith was the game?s leading rusher with 92 yards on 18 carries and helped keep the ball away from the Rams? offense.

Theismann: New England has three playmakers on offense, David Patten, Troy Brown and Jermaine Wiggins.
Cold, Hard Football Facts: Patten scored New England?s only offensive touchdown of Super Bowl XXXVI, while Brown and Wiggins caught the last two passes on New England?s final, game-winning drive.

Theismann: "(Tom) Brady was a better choice (at quarterback) than (Drew) Bledsoe."
Cold, Hard Football Facts: Believe it or not, Brady vs. Bledsoe was actually a big debate in the days leading up to Super Bowl XXXVI and Theismann was not necessarily in the majority. Nobody doubts today that he was correct.

Theismann: ?The most critical matchup is Marshall Faulk on the Patriots' linebackers.?
Cold, Hard Football Facts: Bill Belichick recently said that the key to New England?s Super Bowl XXXVI defensive game plan "was decided by two words: Marshall Faulk.? The former NFL MVP was punished all day by New England?s linebackers.

Theismann: If the Patriots ?can hold Faulk to around 80 rushing yards or less, New England will have a decided advantage.?
Cold, Hard Football Facts: Faulk was held to 76 yards rushing on 17 carries.

Theismann: His final Super Bowl XXXVI analysis was almost prophetic: ?I look at the score as 27-24. The game will be close and decided at the end. Adam Vinatieri really got the Patriots to where they are. There is no reason why he can't get them to the top. What's so nuts about that??
Cold, Hard Football Facts: New England won 20-17 on a last-second Vinatieri field goal. So, there?s nothing nuts about that, Joe. Unless you believe those who say that there?s a fine line between insanity and genius.

83-Steelers-43
07-23-2006, 07:39 PM
Ricky: I need a joint. Roll it for me, my arm is killing me.