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StainlessStill
08-30-2011, 09:42 PM
I was re-watching some of the pre-season games and I just can't get over not only how quick and fast Ben's getting the ball out of his hands, but how his mechanics have improved GREATLY since last season.

It seems like he certainly worked on his foot work and also his arm rotation. He opens his chest up more and has a very nice balance to his motion, which gives him more power and rotation. Anyone else notice this? He looks sharp and accurate as ever. Ben and this offense are going for broke this season.

SteelCurtain0815
08-30-2011, 10:02 PM
I did notice that. I honestly think BB is going to have a career year this year. He looks as poised as ever.

Fire Arians
08-30-2011, 10:04 PM
I haven't seen him look this sharp ever. I know it's only preseason but I'm always a firm believer in how you practice is how you'll play. excited about this year for sure

pancake
08-30-2011, 10:06 PM
I haven't really looked close enough to notice his mechanics, but he has looked sharp...

tony hipchest
08-30-2011, 10:21 PM
there are those in the national media who have noticed as well. (not only is pat kirwan a senior analyst on nfl.com, and host of a 4 hr sirius nfl radio show, he also sits in on all the production meetings of the cbs pre-game shows with cowher, boomer, sharp and marino.)

http://forums.steelersfever.com/showthread.php?t=75628

Steelers look Super. If ever a team looked ready for the season, it was the Steelers. Heck, their third-team offense functioned well in a 2-minute drill. The defense was already playing at a fast pace and the unit had more blitzes and zone pressures in the scheme than some teams will have all year. Ben Roethlisberger was doing a much better job in the pocket and getting rid of the ball quicker than I have ever seen him. The most impressive part, I witnessed all this during the first week of camp.




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1. Ben Roethlisberger has never looked in better shape. Every year I watch him scramble around the field in the night scrimmage at Latrobe High School, making plays and exciting the fans. Not this year, though, as Roethlisberger consistently stayed in the pocket and drilled receivers with a much quicker and improved release. In the first real two-minute drill of the year against most of the Steelers' first defense, Roethlisberger marched the offense down the field the same way he did to win the Super Bowl against the Cardinals.

OX1947
08-30-2011, 10:55 PM
It's amazing how much you can work on the deficiencies in the off season when you aren't getting accused of assault or crashing your skull into a windshield.

This may have been the easiest offseason for Ben since his rookie year. The way he is playing and the way his recievers are playing, this may be the most potent offense in Steeler history. I can not wait.

Third Rail
08-31-2011, 12:31 AM
Agreed, Ben's looked really sharp so far. He's looked better than I think he's EVER looked in the preseason.

DanRooney
08-31-2011, 12:53 AM
Ben is so underrated as a quarterback. If he were on any other team he would be looked on as a top 3 quarterback. Our defense and run first demeanor hinders most of the meaningless statistical accolades (i.e. yards).

solardave
08-31-2011, 03:42 AM
After this year the rest of the league will probably consider Ben a top Ten QB (sarcasm of course) when in fact he'll be in the top three.

OX1947
08-31-2011, 03:55 AM
Had Ben not thrown 2 INTs, he would be sitting on 3 titles and would be number 2 behind brady right now. Maybe even number 1.

Steeldude
08-31-2011, 05:45 AM
I was re-watching some of the pre-season games and I just can't get over not only how quick and fast Ben's getting the ball out of his hands, but how his mechanics have improved GREATLY since last season.

It seems like he certainly worked on his foot work and also his arm rotation. He opens his chest up more and has a very nice balance to his motion, which gives him more power and rotation. Anyone else notice this? He looks sharp and accurate as ever. Ben and this offense are going for broke this season.

does he still throw off his back foot when going long? that's always been a problem with him. it's why his long passes are short and hang.

BIGNASTY91
08-31-2011, 08:46 AM
I have been extremely impressed with BB so far. Not only him but his receivers also. This year is certainly going to be one to remember!!

steelfury02
08-31-2011, 09:43 AM
All Ben and co. have to do is convert in the red zone. I don't care how it happens - get down there and get 7 baby.

That said - he is looking in fine, fine form. I'm seeing 36TDs, 13 INTs, 4400 passing yards and 1 Super Bowl MVP. I'm seeing 4 rings before he retires.

AND 1 HOF induction speech after getting #7 this year

Pentheon
08-31-2011, 09:47 AM
I think bens gonna have a great year, he does seem like hes throwing harder than he already was and more accurately, add those improvement with a great wide receiving core, hes bound to have a career year

SH-Rock
08-31-2011, 10:55 AM
After this year the rest of the league will probably consider Ben a top Ten QB (sarcasm of course) when in fact he'll be in the top three.

He's already top 5-7 by most analysts. I think he can secure a spot in the Top 5 by the end of the year if he continues his current poise.

steelfury02
08-31-2011, 01:34 PM
If we use the only stat that matters then Ben is #2 QB behind Brady only.

If I have to hear about Rivers and his amazing stats one more time and why he is above Ben I'm gonna puke. He plays in the AFC west against some of the worst defenses - wow I have to face the Broncos, Chiefs and Raiders and STILL miss the playoffs.

No AFC champ game wins, no Super Bowls. I'll put him one step above Matt Ryan and two above Sanchez and that is it.

Simple answer to this speculation - The Steelers reportedly were going to try and get Rivers - guess what, he would be out of the league because of the O-line and have to face the Ravens at least 2-3 times every season. Give me a break.

1. Brady, 2. Ben, 3.Rodgers, 4.Brees, 5. P. Manning end of story, everything else is a toss up

StainlessStill
08-31-2011, 01:49 PM
does he still throw off his back foot when going long? that's always been a problem with him. it's why his long passes are short and hang.

Ben had a pretty superb game against both the Eagles and Falcons but I DID notice him still throwing off his back foot but he certainly didn't have a choice since Atlanta was was bringing everybody on a certain play. Ben actually missed a WIDE OPEN Hines Ward with Hines laying out.

Other than that, opening the game on those play-action roll-outs to the left side were phenomenal. When he had a guy in his face on the first ball, he quickly found his target, and sprung his body upright to make the play with velocity. I was shocked to see such flawless mechanics and he displayed it practically all night. That first TD to Brown couldn't of been better. Looking off the safety and then FIRING the ball with a nice mix of touch and strength. Just awesome.

I'm so excited I may poop my pants.

steelfury02
08-31-2011, 01:51 PM
If anything Ben should get more recognition than any QB because of what he has to do to win.

In his career:
63.1 completion pct
22,502 yards passing - 3214 per season and that isn't counting like a half a season worth of games he has sat out.
144 TDs - 20TDs per season
86 INTS - or 12 INTs per season
274 sacks or sacked 39 times a season
92.5 career passer rating
26 Come from behind/Game Winning Drives
Career winning pct% (.704)
Oh yea - Rookie of the Year, 2-1 in SBs

Forget what is overall record is but isn't 3 rings a lock?
I can say Hines and Troy would also get in with 3 rings - who else? I'm thinking Farrior might have to garner some consideration.

steelfury02
08-31-2011, 01:52 PM
That 26 come from behind/game winning drives is a healthy percentage of his career wins - so I don't want to hear he had a great defense that carried him.

WickedSteel
08-31-2011, 06:48 PM
Yeah Ben and the offense look great in training camp and pre season games but unfortunately it all hinges on that o line play. All the mechanics improvements and the potent receiving core will mean nothing if he isn't protected.

theplatypus
08-31-2011, 07:06 PM
Yeah Ben and the offense look great in training camp and pre season games but unfortunately it all hinges on that o line play. All the mechanics improvements and the potent receiving core will mean nothing if he isn't protected.

If he's getting rid of the ball faster it means quite a bit.

WickedSteel
08-31-2011, 07:12 PM
Very true but he is going to need time to set up and deliver an accurate, deep throw to one of the speedy receivers and that is what I am afraid of. Unless they can start running a spread offense like the Packers and Pats and delivering the ball quick on slants and screens, they won't be able to use the speed and talent of the receivers because defenders will be in Ben's face constantly.

We'll see. Things are looking encouraging but game 1 against that voracious Raven's front is going to be a true test.

steelfury02
08-31-2011, 07:24 PM
Flacco does not quickly adjust to having new targets. If/when we double Evans who does he have to rely on? Boldin doesn't scare me and neither does check downs to Ray Rice.

The pressure is squarely on them. Just imagine what is going through Flacco's head "Oh, we have the Steelers in our house wk 1 WITH Ben." I'm sure they are praying that Harrison won't make much progress in the next 11 days and will try to attack his side immediately and often. We pose more questions to them than they do to us. If we win the turnover battle we win. Plain and simple. Tricky Dick has something special for Joey boy - trust me.

Ben and co. have the chemistry advantage. Even the new guy (Cotchery) has like 9 years experience under his belt and is more clutch than Boldin.

We win wk 1 and I see a TON of moment for the black and gold

StainlessStill
08-31-2011, 08:45 PM
Yeah Ben and the offense look great in training camp and pre season games but unfortunately it all hinges on that o line play. All the mechanics improvements and the potent receiving core will mean nothing if he isn't protected.

That's nothing new. If anything, Ben probably expects pressure right away. We are very lucky we have a QB that can get out of such a mess and he's proven it his whole career. That's not a concern for me, we've watched the man lead his team to Super Bowls behind the worst-olines ever.

That said, when he actually does get time, it looks like he's poised to get it out, get it out quick and look for more plays downfield. I just really do believe this offense is ready for special things.

Ricco Suavez
08-31-2011, 09:09 PM
Ben may not of had distractions this off season but he just may have focused himself on upping his game after the Superbowl defeat. He looks to be in great shape, I even commented to my wife the other night that he looked in the best shape since his first two years in the league.

Our offence has been pretty good the last two years, we just lacked the ability to finish drives with TDs and if we just improve in that area it will take a lot of pressure off our defense. While I do not long for the good ole days of Jerome Bettis I would like to see us run effectively in the red zone. Wait I would like to have a Bettis in his prime again.

Steeldude
09-01-2011, 12:06 AM
Ben had a pretty superb game against both the Eagles and Falcons but I DID notice him still throwing off his back foot but he certainly didn't have a choice since Atlanta was was bringing everybody on a certain play. Ben actually missed a WIDE OPEN Hines Ward with Hines laying out.

Other than that, opening the game on those play-action roll-outs to the left side were phenomenal. When he had a guy in his face on the first ball, he quickly found his target, and sprung his body upright to make the play with velocity. I was shocked to see such flawless mechanics and he displayed it practically all night. That first TD to Brown couldn't of been better. Looking off the safety and then FIRING the ball with a nice mix of touch and strength. Just awesome.

I'm so excited I may poop my pants.

that's good to hear. my knock on BR, along with his long ball, was he didn't read his WRs quickly enough.

LVSteelersfan
09-01-2011, 12:49 AM
I have been impressed enough that I made him my #1 QB on my fantasy team. I think he looks good and will have a phenomenal year.

stb_steeler
09-01-2011, 11:45 AM
That's nothing new. If anything, Ben probably expects pressure right away. We are very lucky we have a QB that can get out of such a mess and he's proven it his whole career. That's not a concern for me, we've watched the man lead his team to Super Bowls behind the worst-olines ever.

That said, when he actually does get time, it looks like he's poised to get it out, get it out quick and look for more plays downfield. I just really do believe this offense is ready for special things.

Yeah just imagine Odonnell playing with this line......:wink02: