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Ohio Steeler
06-03-2006, 10:31 AM
TORONTO -- Ricky Williams looked less like an NFL rushing champion and every bit like a running back less than a week into training camp with a new team.

The suspended Miami Dolphins running back was held to seven yards on four carries in his first CFL game Friday night as the Hamilton Tiger-Cats defeated the Toronto Argonauts 31-3 in the exhibition opener for both clubs.

"The biggest thing was to see the game, to see the speed of the game and get a feel of what's going to be expected of me," Williams said. "It's hard to do it in a meeting room or the practice field but when you come out here at game speed you have a better idea.

"I did a decent job on pass protection. Obviously I didn't have that many yards running the ball but I felt pretty good about my performance. It felt good, it felt natural. I wasn't nervous, I felt comfortable with the offense."

The game capped a whirlwind week for Williams, who signed a one-year deal with Toronto on Sunday.

Williams has been suspended for the upcoming season by the NFL after a fourth violation of the league's substance abuse program.

Williams, a four-time 1,000-yard rusher in the NFL, had four practices to get acclimated with Canadian football, yet, judging by the hundreds of Miami jerseys featuring Williams' No. 34 present at Rogers Centre, it was clear who many had come to see.

But they had to wait, as veteran John Avery started at tailback. An ovation erupted midway through the first when Williams, who is wearing No. 27 with Toronto, was shown on the Jumbotron patiently waiting his turn.

Williams quietly slipped into the game with 5 seconds left in the first and the Argos at their 35-yard line trailing 14-0. Predictably, Williams got the ball on his first play from scrimmage, resulting in a 2-yard gain, but it wasn't until the PA announcer called Williams as the ball carrier that the Heisman Trophy winner received a rousing ovation.

"It's hard to tell with just one quarter of play, but they came ready to play," Williams said when asked about the level of competition in the CFL. "It's a team sport and one player isn't going to make much of a difference unless he's able to help everyone else raise their level of play and match the opponents' intensity."

But Williams liked being able to go into motion before the snap, something he has never been able to do in the NFL.

"It's fun because you get a head start on the defense and they don't know where you're going," he said. "It's just learning the game so you can take advantage of it more and I'm sure that will come."

Argos head coach Mike (Pinball) Clemons wasn't surprised with Williams' rushing numbers in his first CFL game.

"It's about what I expected," said Clemons, a former Argos running back. "With a running back like him it's not his first three, four or five touches in a game that are going to make the difference, it's the 10 in the fourth quarter when they wear you down that's going to be the difference for him.

"I think it's good he struggled ... because it's going to let him know to be successful in this league he's going to have to work maybe the hardest he has ever worked to this point in his career."

Fans got a rise out of a vignette in the second that made fun of former Toronto quarterback Joe Theismann's condemnation of the club's signing Williams.

On Tuesday, Theismann called the move a "feeble excuse" by Toronto to sell tickets, lashed out at Williams and said he was ashamed to have worn the club's old A emblem on his helmet.

During a stoppage in play Friday, a video ran on the Jumbotron showing Theismann wearing a helmet with the 'A' emblem. Suddenly, a giant pencil appeared and rubbed out the 'A,' after which the worlds "Happy Now Joe" appeared, again drawing solid applause.

Tiger-Cats coach Greg Marshall downplayed suggestions Williams' presence provided extra motivation for his defense.

"Anytime we play the Argos we don't need any extra motivation," he said. "Personally, I didn't even know when Ricky was in the football game.

"I don't know if our defense was even aware."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2468817

Jimmy James
06-03-2006, 11:30 AM
Wow. Some news agency cares a little too much about Ricky. That's cool, though. It should be interesting to see how he does.

lamberts-lost-tooth
06-03-2006, 12:21 PM
[QUOTE=Ohio Steeler]TORONTO -- Ricky Williams looked less like an NFL rushing champion and every bit like a running back less than a week into training camp with a new team.

The suspended Miami Dolphins running back was held to seven yards on four carries in his first CFL game Friday night as the Hamilton Tiger-Cats defeated the Toronto Argonauts 31-3 in the exhibition opener for both clubs.

"The biggest thing was to see the game, to see the speed of the game and get a feel of what's going to be expected of me," Williams said. "It's hard to do it in a meeting room or the practice field but when you come out here at game speed you have a better idea.



"When asked how he was coping with the move to Toronto, Williams paused and then asked in obvious distress.."I'm in Canada?...Oh Shit!...This isn't New Orleans!?"

When it was explained to Ricky that he hadnt played for the Saints for some time and that he has been suspended from the NFL while playing for Miami, Williams responded by saying "Damn..sobriety sucks!"..."Does Jamaica have a football team"?

Ohio Steeler
06-03-2006, 07:40 PM
[QUOTE=Ohio Steeler]TORONTO -- Ricky Williams looked less like an NFL rushing champion and every bit like a running back less than a week into training camp with a new team.

The suspended Miami Dolphins running back was held to seven yards on four carries in his first CFL game Friday night as the Hamilton Tiger-Cats defeated the Toronto Argonauts 31-3 in the exhibition opener for both clubs.

"The biggest thing was to see the game, to see the speed of the game and get a feel of what's going to be expected of me," Williams said. "It's hard to do it in a meeting room or the practice field but when you come out here at game speed you have a better idea.



"When asked how he was coping with the move to Toronto, Williams paused and then asked in obvious distress.."I'm in Canada?...Oh Shit!...This isn't New Orleans!?"

When it was explained to Ricky that he hadnt played for the Saints for some time and that he has been suspended from the NFL while playing for Miami, Williams responded by saying "Damn..sobriety sucks!"..."Does Jamaica have a football team"?

OMG now that was funny as hell :sofunny:

83-Steelers-43
06-03-2006, 09:25 PM
The guys a bum. I'm surprised he's not hooked on coke after playing in that city.......

Ohio Steeler
06-03-2006, 09:44 PM
The guys a bum. I'm surprised he's not hooked on coke after playing in that city.......


I am sure that is also a drug he uses from time to time

Jimmy James
06-03-2006, 09:46 PM
Since we have moved on to the city itself, I do have to admit it's ironic that Marcus Vick ended up in Miami. You'd have thought whoever is handling him would have stuck him up in like Green Bay.

83-Steelers-43
06-03-2006, 10:23 PM
Since we have moved on to the city itself, I do have to admit it's ironic that Marcus Vick ended up in Miami. You'd have thought whoever is handling him would have stuck him up in like Green Bay.

Why? He can join another idiot like Saban who also puts out moronic statements for all the nation to read while also having no problem sticking up for and putting thug punks on his roster. He will fit in just fine.

Jimmy James
06-03-2006, 10:37 PM
Why? He can join another idiot like Saban who also puts out moronic statements for all the nation to read while also having no problem sticking up for and putting thug punks on his roster. He will fit in just fine.

Don't make me do an arrest count on our rookies since they joined our fine organizations. Here's a hint -- you'll lose.

This is the second time you have brought up statements you say Saban has made. Show them.

83-Steelers-43
06-03-2006, 10:48 PM
You have more than one organization in the NFL?

We are talking about a team that took back Williams (while also making excuses for the guy) and signed Marcus Vick. Enough said.

As for idiotic statements from Saban. Well, every time he stuck up for Williams for starters. But I recall you have an understanding for a guy who fails a drug test on four or five occasions. That doesn't surprise me at all considering the source. What else? How about his comments about packing in the season and calling it quits? I bet that made the small amount of fans that showed up in that stadium very happy. Specially the season ticket holders who stuck around to watch that pathetic excuse for a football team. Remember that or do we forget that memorable quote?

Jimmy James
06-03-2006, 10:56 PM
You have more than one organization in the NFL?

Is English your second language? Really. Let me know. I'll use smaller words for you if it will help. We have a lot of Mexican and South American fans down at FH, so I'm used to it.

We are talking about a team that took back Williams (while also making excuses for the guy) and signed Marcus Vick. Enough said.

Making excuses for the guy? It's pretty simple. Ricky has talent. Ricky is not a locker room cancer. He's a flake with bona fide mental problems who went off his meds and got into the ganja. Assuming he can stay right with the league on the drug testing, he's welcome on any team I root for.

Marcus is also talented and is on a very short lease. Why not take a shot on him? What does it hurt?

As for idiotic statements from Saban. Well, every time he stuck up for Williams for starters. But I recall you have an understanding for a guy who fails a drug test on four or five occasions. That doesn't surprise me at all. What else? How about his comments about packing in the season and calling quits? I bet that made the small amount of fans that showed up in that stadium very happy. Remember that or do we forget that memorable quote?

I think the winning streak at the end of the year proved out that Saban's comment had the proper motivating effect on the players. As to the rest of this "proof", I am more than underwhelmed. We're talking about a coach who has a championship and a 9-7 season as a rookie NFL head coach on his recent resume. He doesn't have years upon years in the league like Cowher has, but he's doing just fine for himself.

Should I offer to analyze you now?

83-Steelers-43
06-04-2006, 02:09 AM
Is English my second language? No. But when you make a statement such as this "Don't make me do an arrest count on our rookies since they joined our fine organizations." I was under the impression that you currently have more than one organization in the league.

Quick note and speaking of the English language..........I believe you meant to say that Marcus Vick is on a short leash.

I don't care what Saban meant by his statements, it's pissed off a lot of fans in Miami and it's understandable. No matter how bad things look, you don't make the statements Saban made. I can't imagine Cowher or Belichick making those statements. To each their own I guess?

clevestinks
06-04-2006, 08:29 AM
I see Ricky getting injured early in the season! Probably a fake injury, but a trip to the DL nonetheless

BB2W
06-04-2006, 09:30 AM
But they had to wait, as veteran John Avery started at tailback. An ovation erupted midway through the first when Williams, who is wearing No. 27 with Toronto, was shown on the Jumbotron patiently waiting his turn.
I wonder if that is fromer Steelers runningback John Avery drafted out of Ole Miss back in the late 90's...

Jimmy James
06-04-2006, 10:42 AM
I wonder if that is fromer Steelers runningback John Avery drafted out of Ole Miss back in the late 90's...

When did he play for the Steelers?

He's the same John Avery out of Ole Miss the Dolphins drafted. I only see stats for him for 1998 (Miami), 1999 (Denver), and 2003 (Minnesota). I guess he went CFL after that.

Jimmy James
06-04-2006, 10:46 AM
Is English my second language? No. But when you make a statement such as this "Don't make me do an arrest count on our rookies since they joined our fine organizations." I was under the impression that you currently have more than one organization in the league.

Organization #1: Miami
Organization #2: Pittsburgh

You were included in "our".

Quick note and speaking of the English language..........I believe you meant to say that Marcus Vick is on a short leash.

That's probably what I was going for, but I don't mind the way it worked out. Marcus is in Miami on what is essentially a short lease unless he acts right and earns his keep.

I don't care what Saban meant by his statements, it's pissed off a lot of fans in Miami and it's understandable. No matter how bad things look, you don't make the statements Saban made. I can't imagine Cowher or Belichick making those statements. To each their own I guess?

It didn't really piss off many of the folks at FH as I recall. I'm sure we had a thread or three about it, but it was nothing like the fallout from say Ricky retiring.

To each their own sounds good to me, though.

BB2W
06-04-2006, 10:49 AM
When did he play for the Steelers?

He's the same John Avery out of Ole Miss the Dolphins drafted. I only see stats for him for 1998 (Miami), 1999 (Denver), and 2003 (Minnesota). I guess he went CFL after that.
I was wrong... no John Avery ever played for the Steelers. I think I got him confused with George Jones drafted by the Steelers in the late 90's. He had a short (three years) NFL career like Avery.

83-Steelers-43
06-04-2006, 10:52 AM
BB2W, we had a Steve Avery out of N. Michigan in the mid-90's. Played FB. Might be who your thinking of?

83-Steelers-43
06-04-2006, 10:53 AM
That's probably what I was going for

lol, okay.

Petesburgh66
06-05-2006, 03:46 PM
When did he play for the Steelers?

He's the same John Avery out of Ole Miss the Dolphins drafted. I only see stats for him for 1998 (Miami), 1999 (Denver), and 2003 (Minnesota). I guess he went CFL after that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Avery_(football_player)

Between Denver and Minny, he was the XFL and CFL. He has been injury proned and a bust in Toronto after the Vikings released him in 2003.

As for Ricky in his first game. It's pre season. It doesn't mean anything.

Suitanim
06-05-2006, 07:41 PM
In the NFL, you have even higher expectations, and even shorter time frames in which to fufill them.

Jimmy James
06-05-2006, 09:19 PM
I can't believe Saban likes the Rickys and Vicks of the world. He succeeded at LSU by being a no-nonsense coach--why is he abandoning that approach?

I think it's precisely because he's that coach he is willing to do this. I think Nick really believes he can help turn some lives around.

83-Steelers-43
06-05-2006, 09:30 PM
I can't believe Saban likes the Rickys and Vicks of the world. He succeeded at LSU by being a no-nonsense coach--why is he abandoning that approach?

My thoughts exactly.

Livinginthe past
06-06-2006, 05:15 AM
I think it's precisely because he's that coach he is willing to do this. I think Nick really believes he can help turn some lives around.

I think thats a nice sentiment.

I dont think that these guys will hurt Saban too much, unless he allows them to act out under his watch.

There are two type of upside though - the guys might be real contributors to the football team and if he can turn just one of them around then it enhances his reputation as a coach with strong discipline.

All this is dependant on him throwing these guys straight out of the team if they fail to show signs of improvement - otherwise he just looks like a guy who will do anything to win, and who doesnt mind compromising his moral standards to get there.

NM

ngreene15
06-12-2006, 03:54 PM
Just to let you all know... Ricky's second performance in the CFL was still unimpressive.... 11 carries for 46 yards against the team who finished dead last in the previous season.

Where as in the same week, the running back for my Roughriders had 5 carries for 106 yards against last years Grey Cup Champs :banana: .

Brady12
06-12-2006, 04:33 PM
Just to let you all know... Ricky's second performance in the CFL was still unimpressive.... 11 carries for 46 yards against the team who finished dead last in the previous season.

Where as in the same week, the running back for my Roughriders had 5 carries for 106 yards against last years Grey Cup Champs :banana: .


Including 1 run for 65 yards.

Ricky played the 2nd Worst defense in the entire CFL as well.