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SteelCityMom
09-12-2011, 07:24 AM
Farrior finds himself sidelined in favor of Foote
By Scott Brown (sbrown@tribweb.com), PITTSBURGH TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Monday, September 12, 2011

BALTIMORE -- Steelers defensive captain James Farrior spent time in unfamiliar territory Sunday: the sidelines.

Larry Foote replaced Farrior at left inside linebacker for three series in the first half of the Steelers' 35-7 loss to the Ravens.

Coach Mike Tomlin said that was by design -- not because of an injury to Farrior, who hasn't missed a game since 2005.

"Larry had a good preseason," Tomlin said. "We would like to play both men, so we made a commitment early on that both men were going to play, and we stood up to that."

The 36-year-old Farrior said, "I'm healthy. Everything's fine," when asked if sharing time with Foote had anything to do with an injury.

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steeltheone
09-12-2011, 07:36 AM
Is there really any difference? It's like 1a and 1b

SteelCityMom
09-12-2011, 07:44 AM
Yeah...I can't understand the motive behind doing this either. Farrior has definitely lost a step (or two) over the years, but I think he's much better than Foote. Lingering injury maybe? That's all I can figure.

theplatypus
09-12-2011, 07:56 AM
Maybe they're just trying to keep him fresh for late season games.

SteeleReign
09-12-2011, 08:03 AM
I'm not sure how much of this was scheme, but we were so soft up the middle that it didn't appear that we had anybody at MLB. It seems to me that Farrior is now a situational player & Foote is not a capable replacement. Maybe it's time to give Sylvester a look.

SteelCityMom
09-12-2011, 08:38 AM
Kind of sums up my feelings on this...

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Farrior done wrong?
September 11th, 2011

BALTIMORE — Mike Tomlin is widely considered one of the better player’s coaches in the NFL.

Tomlin has a reputation of relating to his players in a fashion to get them to play hard because of his honesty, straight-forwardness and his no-nonsense approach — all attributes that players love.

Saying that, Tomlin is doing wrong with the most influential player on the Steelers’ defense.

Tomlin made the decision to remove veteran linebacker James Farrior for the final two series of the first half of Sunday’s 35-7 loss to the Ravens because what he said afterwards was because “we had made a commitment to play Larry Foote some.”

Huh?

At any other position, I’d buy that as a logical reason. At cornerback, I’d buy that reason.

But when you are talking about the unquestioned leader of your defense; the eight-time defensive captain; and the all-around most-respected person on the Steelers’ roster, it’s hogwash.

Farrior deserves better.

“I’m healthy and everything is fine,” disappointed Farrior said afterward.

But obviously everything isn’t fine … or should I say won’t be fine.

For Tomlin to make a drastic decision to remove Farrior for series at a time, there’s a problem, and that problem may get worse before it gets better.

Foote has no way surpassed Farrior in quality of play on the field. Off the field, Farrior is invaluable.

Just think, a guy like Farrior is replaced because of his decline while William Gay and Bryant McFadden remain on the field.

I’d be shaking my head if I was Farrior.

The Steelers were trailing just 14-7 at the time of Farrior’s removal in the second quarter, and the Ravens quickly went on an 11-play drive that resulted in a touchdown. Foote missed a tackle and covered the wrong guy on a play, but that’s beside the point.

Well, maybe that is the point. Foote is a backup for a reason.

More here...http://blog.triblive.com/steel-mill/2011/09/11/farrior-done-wrong/#.Tm1LZnemdn0.twitter

SteeleReign
09-12-2011, 08:51 AM
Kind of sums up my feelings on this...

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Farrior done wrong?
September 11th, 2011

BALTIMORE — Mike Tomlin is widely considered one of the better player’s coaches in the NFL.

Tomlin has a reputation of relating to his players in a fashion to get them to play hard because of his honesty, straight-forwardness and his no-nonsense approach — all attributes that players love.

Saying that, Tomlin is doing wrong with the most influential player on the Steelers’ defense.

Tomlin made the decision to remove veteran linebacker James Farrior for the final two series of the first half of Sunday’s 35-7 loss to the Ravens because what he said afterwards was because “we had made a commitment to play Larry Foote some.”

Huh?

At any other position, I’d buy that as a logical reason. At cornerback, I’d buy that reason.

But when you are talking about the unquestioned leader of your defense; the eight-time defensive captain; and the all-around most-respected person on the Steelers’ roster, it’s hogwash.

Farrior deserves better.

“I’m healthy and everything is fine,” disappointed Farrior said afterward.

But obviously everything isn’t fine … or should I say won’t be fine.

For Tomlin to make a drastic decision to remove Farrior for series at a time, there’s a problem, and that problem may get worse before it gets better.

Foote has no way surpassed Farrior in quality of play on the field. Off the field, Farrior is invaluable.

Just think, a guy like Farrior is replaced because of his decline while William Gay and Bryant McFadden remain on the field.

I’d be shaking my head if I was Farrior.

The Steelers were trailing just 14-7 at the time of Farrior’s removal in the second quarter, and the Ravens quickly went on an 11-play drive that resulted in a touchdown. Foote missed a tackle and covered the wrong guy on a play, but that’s beside the point.

Well, maybe that is the point. Foote is a backup for a reason.

More here...http://blog.triblive.com/steel-mill/2011/09/11/farrior-done-wrong/#.Tm1LZnemdn0.twitter

Hmmm...this sounds troubling. Tomlin may be out-thinking himself here. Then again, maybe it's time to find a capable replacement up the middle.

LVSteelersfan
09-12-2011, 11:33 AM
Putting Foote in instead of Sylvester is a boneheaded move. You can't make me believe that Sylvester would be that bad. He might make some mistakes but you can't learn if you are not on the field. I am sure he is much faster than Slow of Foote who never should have been brought back. And Tomlin's thing about giving Mewelde Moore playing time over Redman is just plain stupid. Moore is done.

tanda10506
09-12-2011, 11:51 AM
Foote I would say is a downgrade to Farrior. The middle was so weak, Rice and Williams walked through it at will, it was as if nobody was there. We should put Sylvester in for Farrior, Hood in for Smith, and rotate Heyward and Keisel. That's a few things we should start with and see how it goes.

CaliStillersFan
09-12-2011, 11:55 AM
Farrior is 36, and he has been on the downside of his career for the past couple of years. We will be seeing him on the sidelines more and more throughout this season. It's time to get more of the young guys on the field to get them some game experience.

DanRooney
09-12-2011, 11:56 AM
Is there really any difference? It's like 1a and 1b

More like 2a and 4b on most teams.

steeltheone
09-12-2011, 12:06 PM
Putting Foote in instead of Sylvester is a boneheaded move. You can't make me believe that Sylvester would be that bad. He might make some mistakes but you can't learn if you are not on the field. I am sure he is much faster than Slow of Foote who never should have been brought back. And Tomlin's thing about giving Mewelde Moore playing time over Redman is just plain stupid. Moore is done.

Agreed ...You can't learn on the bench...The brass doesn't feel that way!

Rick5895
09-12-2011, 12:33 PM
Yesterday was a reall head scratcher for me in a lot of ways. Farrior is the epitome of Steelers football, But at times he has struggles the last couple of years, especially incoverage. he struggled yesterday but as much as I like Foote, Sylvester should have been there. Same on the line, Heyward and Hood should have seen a helluva lot more time on the field. Not to mention Allen and Lewis in the backend.

effyou515
09-12-2011, 01:20 PM
Foote I would say is a downgrade to Farrior. The middle was so weak, Rice and Williams walked through it at will, it was as if nobody was there. We should put Sylvester in for Farrior, Hood in for Smith, and rotate Heyward and Keisel. That's a few things we should start with and see how it goes.

:thumbsup:

with Keenan Lewis and Curtis Brown rotating with Gay and Mcfadden.

Gilbert and Scott rotating at LT bring back Hills can't be any worse then Legursky at RG or bring back Adams and move Colon to RG.

Fire Arians
09-12-2011, 01:23 PM
we can't bring back hills, I think denver picked him up and signed him to a 2 year contract.

adams is a possibility still.

agree with lewis. I do not know why mcfadden was given the start. he hasn't practiced all offseason because he's been injured, they expect him to play at a pro level despite that? lewis would do a much better job. curtis brown should know enough of the defense by midseason to contribute in the nickel and maybe rotate with gay

davidtrout
09-12-2011, 03:40 PM
Kind of sums up my feelings on this...

-------------------------------------------

Farrior done wrong?
September 11th, 2011

BALTIMORE — Mike Tomlin is widely considered one of the better player’s coaches in the NFL.

Tomlin has a reputation of relating to his players in a fashion to get them to play hard because of his honesty, straight-forwardness and his no-nonsense approach — all attributes that players love.

Saying that, Tomlin is doing wrong with the most influential player on the Steelers’ defense.

Tomlin made the decision to remove veteran linebacker James Farrior for the final two series of the first half of Sunday’s 35-7 loss to the Ravens because what he said afterwards was because “we had made a commitment to play Larry Foote some.”

Huh?

At any other position, I’d buy that as a logical reason. At cornerback, I’d buy that reason.

But when you are talking about the unquestioned leader of your defense; the eight-time defensive captain; and the all-around most-respected person on the Steelers’ roster, it’s hogwash.

Farrior deserves better.

“I’m healthy and everything is fine,” disappointed Farrior said afterward.

But obviously everything isn’t fine … or should I say won’t be fine.

For Tomlin to make a drastic decision to remove Farrior for series at a time, there’s a problem, and that problem may get worse before it gets better.

Foote has no way surpassed Farrior in quality of play on the field. Off the field, Farrior is invaluable.

Just think, a guy like Farrior is replaced because of his decline while William Gay and Bryant McFadden remain on the field.

I’d be shaking my head if I was Farrior.

The Steelers were trailing just 14-7 at the time of Farrior’s removal in the second quarter, and the Ravens quickly went on an 11-play drive that resulted in a touchdown. Foote missed a tackle and covered the wrong guy on a play, but that’s beside the point.

Well, maybe that is the point. Foote is a backup for a reason.

More here...http://blog.triblive.com/steel-mill/2011/09/11/farrior-done-wrong/#.Tm1LZnemdn0.twitter

I don't agree with any of that. Farrior is not the player he was 3 years ago and he'd be the first to admit that. Reducing his playing time is not the worst idea at this point. Foote was never as good as Farrior in his prime, but he is now. He's always been better than most Steeler fans give him credit for. Not everyone in the league can be a pro bowler, you have to have some serviceable players and Foote has always been exactly that. Capable and qualified has to be good enough for the majority of any football team. We have more than our share of high end talent.

No one is going to get upset because Larry Foote is getting some playing time, at least no one on the team, not Farrior or anyone else.

55BaileyFan
09-12-2011, 05:20 PM
Maybe Sly should be getting some of those snaps? I am writing an article asking the same question. The Steelers need better instincts and speed...things that Sly has.

Fire Arians
09-12-2011, 05:32 PM
I don't agree with any of that. Farrior is not the player he was 3 years ago and he'd be the first to admit that. Reducing his playing time is not the worst idea at this point. Foote was never as good as Farrior in his prime, but he is now. He's always been better than most Steeler fans give him credit for. Not everyone in the league can be a pro bowler, you have to have some serviceable players and Foote has always been exactly that. Capable and qualified has to be good enough for the majority of any football team. We have more than our share of high end talent.

No one is going to get upset because Larry Foote is getting some playing time, at least no one on the team, not Farrior or anyone else.

granted it was written by a baltimore sports writer, what he wants is farrior to be on the field as long as possible, lol. hey that's just guaranteeing ray rice will gouge us every time we play

davidtrout
09-12-2011, 05:45 PM
Maybe Sly should be getting some of those snaps? I am writing an article asking the same question. The Steelers need better instincts and speed...things that Sly has.

Maybe. Speed is nice, but very overrated when it comes to football. The hall of fame is littered with busts of players that weren't as fast as their backups or their counterparts. No one ever accused Jack Lambert of being fleet of foot.

As for instincts, ok, if you say so. I'm not sure how you know that, but I don't think you can base it on some preseason snaps or how good he was in college. The coaching staff, specifically, Tomlin, LeBeau, and Butler have determined that Foote and Farrior are the better options right now. That's a tough group to outthink when it comes to linebackers.

55BaileyFan
09-12-2011, 09:19 PM
http://steelerfreakmov.blogspot.com/2011/09/farrior-footesly.html