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pittsburghkid72
09-12-2011, 07:41 PM
I'm was listening to the radio after the game yesterday and someone brought this topic up. The hosts said that the 2 regular season games last year against 2 inferior teams the Panthers and Browns... I know he make the so called plays that only "ben" can make,but lately he just doesn't make enough of the regular throws that the average NFL QB makes. He looked so lost yesterday ! Why didnt he play in the last preseason game ? I guess Tomlin thought Ben didnt need the work ? BOY was he wrong !

Fire Arians
09-12-2011, 07:42 PM
AFC championship game?

wait no. I'm sure he did well coming from behind against baltimore 21-7 last year though. that count?

Sixburgher
09-12-2011, 07:44 PM
It would be helpful if the line could hold their blocks for longer than three tenths of a second, that is when they don't completely whiff on them altogether. Ben's damn lucky Suggs alone didn't kill him yesterday.

harrison'samonster
09-12-2011, 07:45 PM
there's no quarterback ever who could have done anything with the ball yesterday. that line was terrible.

Fire Arians
09-12-2011, 07:46 PM
yeah o-line is mostly at fault. i think even tom brady would do jack shit if he didnt even have 2 seconds to throw

pittsburghkid72
09-12-2011, 07:54 PM
I guess they go 0-16 then.. colon out for year...

tanda10506
09-12-2011, 07:54 PM
I do agree that the O line was the primary fault for this game and a lot to do with the poor SB performance. But the interceptions were ridiculous and Ben was totally off mark. I know a lot of that was the o line, but Ben has been behind the line like that before and didn't do anywhere near that bad. He needs to step up starting now for this team to win!

pittsburghkid72
09-12-2011, 07:58 PM
AFC championship game?

wait no. I'm sure he did well coming from behind against baltimore 21-7 last year though. that count?

AFC championship game are you kidding ? 10/19 133 yards and no td's and 2 ints, ya great game there... i remember he had like 2 completions the second half or something ridiculous like that.

Sixburgher
09-12-2011, 07:59 PM
That settles it. We need to tank the season and get Luck next year.

pittsburghkid72
09-12-2011, 08:01 PM
It would be helpful if the line could hold their blocks for longer than three tenths of a second, that is when they don't completely whiff on them altogether. Ben's damn lucky Suggs alone didn't kill him yesterday.

Whens everyone going to stop blaming the Oline ...you mean the the same Oline that was in the super bowl last year.

harrison'samonster
09-12-2011, 08:02 PM
The Steelers had a winning record last year. They made it to the Superbowl. I think Ben must have been all right last year. I'm not looking for him to put together great stats, just win. And he has been a winner throughout his career, without putting up great numbers every game. I don't think we need to be concerned about who we have at QB, but who we have at O-line and DB.

Sixburgher
09-12-2011, 08:03 PM
Whens everyone going to stop blaming the Oline ...you mean the the same Oline that was in the super bowl last year.

Had the same secondary in the Super Bowl too.

jjpro11
09-12-2011, 08:52 PM
the oline was bad yesterday, but they've had far worse games before.. Ben's INTs if i recall, where while he was in open space.. the throws were all off-balance and thrown with poor mechanics.. i know that's his style and all, but those throws were all short of the receivers by several yards. they just made you go, "who the **** is he throwing to?" that's how bad they were. it should have been four because Reed dropped a fairly easy one.

tanda10506
09-12-2011, 08:56 PM
Just because the O line was in the SB that doesn't mean they were good. Since 2008, maybe even earlier, the O line has been bad. Why do you think Ben is known for throwing on the run and making plays happen, because there is never a pocket, he is always running. You can play with some weaknesses ( secondary, O line) and still win it, but not year in and year out. The line was about as bad as I have seen it. You can't say we shouldn't blame the O line, our QB is on the run every play, most QB's suck on the run, ours is on the run every play. This game he made some bad decisions, as he did in the SB, but the O line is the main fault.

55BaileyFan
09-12-2011, 08:59 PM
Why does everyone blame the line all the time? I understand they are terrible but it was Ben who was bad yesterday. Those three interceptions were his fault...he had time, hell on the first Ed Reed pick almost everyone on the defense for Bmore was fooled.

Everyone jumps on his side like he is Mr. Everything. He is human but throws a lot of picks in big games. Two picks in every SB and had a large number of picks in all his post season games. The line is a huge part of our issues...but the run game was working fine until the Steelers stopped using it.

Ben himself says all the sacks and problems are only half because of the line and the other half is on him. Besides if he would cut some pay and the linebackers would take some pay cuts maybe they could pay for a big time lineman. Everyone wants to complain but no one wants to drop any cash so that they can upgrade the position.

It takes money to do that...something the Steelers are lacking right now.

Third Rail
09-12-2011, 09:30 PM
Whens everyone going to stop blaming the Oline ...you mean the the same Oline that was in the super bowl last year.

Yeah, put all the blame on the quarterback. After all, he wasn't in the Super Bowl last year. :horror:

effyou515
09-12-2011, 09:35 PM
Ben's first Superbowl. lol

12/20/09 Green Bay game 29 of 46 504 yards.

Third Rail
09-12-2011, 09:42 PM
Ben's first Superbowl. lol

12/20/09 Green Bay game 29 of 46 504 yards.

Ah yes. That game was a heart attack to watch but I was so happy with the outcome. I would have killed for the Super Bowl to have turned out like that.

CaliStillersFan
09-12-2011, 09:56 PM
PittsburghKid72 = Raven Troll

Enjoy your win yesterday troll, all it means is that your team is 1-0 (I guess that's cause for celebrating since beating us is the closest your team will ever get to winning another SB).

pittsburghkid72
09-12-2011, 10:02 PM
Just because the O line was in the SB that doesn't mean they were good. Since 2008, maybe even earlier, the O line has been bad. Why do you think Ben is known for throwing on the run and making plays happen, because there is never a pocket, he is always running. You can play with some weaknesses ( secondary, O line) and still win it, but not year in and year out. The line was about as bad as I have seen it. You can't say we shouldn't blame the O line, our QB is on the run every play, most QB's suck on the run, ours is on the run every play. This game he made some bad decisions, as he did in the SB, but the O line is the main fault.

Our Qb is on the run every play because he cant make a read quick enough..... he has to run to play backyard football. Thats his game. His pocket passing is terrible, take off the black and gold sunglasses ! :tt04:

pittsburghkid72
09-12-2011, 10:04 PM
PittsburghKid72 = Raven Troll

Enjoy your win yesterday troll, all it means is that your team is 1-0 (I guess that's cause for celebrating since beating us is the closest your team will ever get to winning another SB).

Go play in traffic ...your another Ben Ballwasher. 100 million dollar contract that he is not living up to ! Like I asked when did he last play a great game ? How many years ago ?


If u wanna meet this ravens fan Ill be in the first motorhome in front of the River Casino... look for the Tailgaters motorhome.... douche.

SteelCityMom
09-12-2011, 10:12 PM
PittsburghKid72 = Raven Troll

Enjoy your win yesterday troll, all it means is that your team is 1-0 (I guess that's cause for celebrating since beating us is the closest your team will ever get to winning another SB).

No, not a Ravens troll...just a member who has been banned twice before, and is going to be banned again now.

Riddle_Of_Steel
09-12-2011, 10:18 PM
Our Qb is on the run every play because he cant make a read quick enough..... he has to run to play backyard football. Thats his game. His pocket passing is terrible, take off the black and gold sunglasses ! :tt04:


Get a clue, kid.

The Oline could not even give Ben enough time to HAND THE BALL OFF ON A SIMPLE DIVE PLAY UP THE MIDDLE. He almost got sacked on A FREAKING HANDOFF!!!! ON A FREAKING HANDOFF!!!!!!

That is less than 3 seconds-- no time for even a 3-step drop back, barely enough time to even get those ugly WR bubble passes off before Haloti and Suggs are there to wreck things.

:banging::banging::banging::banging:

Time to implement a "minimal football IQ test" before granting new memberships on here...

JustinM
09-12-2011, 11:56 PM
Ben has won sooo many games for us in those last 2 minutes. Plus, he has an insane natural ability to scramble and make a play.

Fire Arians
09-13-2011, 12:00 AM
Time to implement a "minimal football IQ test" before granting new memberships on here...

That'd be a good way to keep baltimore fans off this board, especially neo 'mr. i'm trying to have an intelligent conversation here and my grasp of the english language is identical to a 3rd grader' lol

LVSteelersfan
09-13-2011, 12:18 AM
You people who rag on Ben crack me up. He has NO TIME to even get to his first read. When he scrambles out of it he is throwing off his back foot most of the time which does not allow much accuracy. More than likely they are floaters that can easily be picked off or sail out of bounds. He is lucky if he gets two seconds with that putrid O-line. No QB can hold up with that kind of rush. Doesn't matter how fast they get the ball out.

ggoldman
09-13-2011, 02:13 AM
I dunno what happened on the last pick he threw to Reed, but the first one he threw just needed a little bit more air under it, and Heath would've had the TD

OX1947
09-13-2011, 02:20 AM
Big Ben has 4 legit recievers and a stud TE. On top of it, he has a great running back. How this guy isnt killing teams every game is killing me.

madtowndrunkard
09-13-2011, 09:08 AM
A better question might be when is the last time Arians had a great game plan?

It's clear to just about everyone on earth...our weakness is the OC.

BIGNASTY91
09-13-2011, 09:19 AM
hell you cant single out anybody! This was a total team loss from coaches to players. It was complete BS. I hope they all (including caches) Have there asses chewed and are forced to watch that game over and over this week. If that doesnt give them some motivation then nothing will!! :mad: :banging:

BritishSteel
09-13-2011, 09:32 AM
Ben didn't have a great game Sunday. No sense in saying otherwise. Mainly that was because he had Raven Linebackers in his face the second he touched the ball, and I suspect even when he didn't, he had The Fear. He'll warm up and we'll be OK once we get set straight. Or he'll get completely atomised by someone.

Our O-line has to find something from somewhere because Sunday was scary and it's a long time til next years draft.

steelfury02
09-13-2011, 11:18 AM
Regarding Ben and the Steelers organization (ownership, coaches, players, etc down the line) and people's perspective of them outside of that immediate group as a whole (Steelers fans, the media, other organizations and their fans), I'll use Ben's statement:

"It's a double-edged sword."

By that I mean that:

1. Over the past 20 seasons, the Steelers have consistently been in the mix competitively (not counting the 70s dynasty years) and while this breeds a winning attitude in the organization, proud and dedicated fans, and the portrayal of that in the media - it also breeds some lofty/sometimes seemingly impossible expectations that they put upon themselves, we put on them as fans, and the ones the media puts on them (aka the Steeler way on and off the field)

2. Specifically because of Ben and this corp group's success over roughly the past decade resulting in memorable performances, huge wins and 2 Super Bowls to show for it, we come to expect Super Bowl or bust every year (or at least AFC champ game) We are the spoiler of dreams of other organizations and their fans and frankly, as Steelers fans we revel in that role. As much as we love seeing the black and gold kick some arse - we have thoroughly equally enjoyed seeing other organizations/fans have their hearts ripped out by us and we have rigthfully so boasted - the result is envy and a form of hate by these other groups. Just think how many times we have grabbed victory from the jaws of defeat with this group. We haven't been successful in the most conventional ways - we have a pretty exceptional team. We have probably the most unorthodox QB in modern NFL, a defense that has been dominant when the game is changing to favor offenses and we've had some characters and drama to add into that mix. Other teams have scratched their heads at us figuring it out but they can't because we are unique. SO

3. The result is that when other teams and other fans have the chance to do the same to us (which lately doesn't happen that much - and especially by heated rivals in the Ravens) they go overboard with it because of what we've been able to do and "now it is their time." I live in the greater Baltimore area and let me tell you - everyone is on cloud nine down here while we are in these forums wondering where the season went already because of ONE LOSS. I admit I'm concerned after the lack of effort - but that is what I'm calling it - a lack of effort. In my heart of hearts, Ravens are not the better team, but rather we got the best of ourselves, and the expectations that go along with being Steelers and proud fans.

4. Nothing I said is new - you all know this. Just thought we might need a reminder (myself especially) that when Ben plays bad, or the defense plays bad - it can come across as the sky is falling - because that isn't the Steeler way. We don't lose to our rivals, especially in that matter. It has happened before, it just happened again and I believe we are better for it. Let's have some faith - these guys know how to bounce back. No way they come into our house next time and pull the same crap. Consider Ravens ON NOTICE . . .

Rick5895
09-13-2011, 11:23 AM
Regarding Ben and the Steelers organization (ownership, coaches, players, etc down the line) and people's perspective of them outside of that immediate group as a whole (Steelers fans, the media, other organizations and their fans), I'll use Ben's statement:

"It's a double-edged sword."

By that I mean that:

1. Over the past 20 seasons, the Steelers have consistently been in the mix competitively (not counting the 70s dynasty years) and while this breeds a winning attitude in the organization, proud and dedicated fans, and the portrayal of that in the media - it also breeds some lofty/sometimes seemingly impossible expectations that they put upon themselves, we put on them as fans, and the ones the media puts on them (aka the Steeler way on and off the field)

2. Specifically because of Ben and this corp group's success over roughly the past decade resulting in memorable performances, huge wins and 2 Super Bowls to show for it, we come to expect Super Bowl or bust every year (or at least AFC champ game) We are the spoiler of dreams of other organizations and their fans and frankly, as Steelers fans we revel in that role. As much as we love seeing the black and gold kick some arse - we have thoroughly equally enjoyed seeing other organizations/fans have their hearts ripped out by us and we have rigthfully so boasted - the result is envy and a form of hate by these other groups. Just think how many times we have grabbed victory from the jaws of defeat with this group. We haven't been successful in the most conventional ways - we have a pretty exceptional team. We have probably the most unorthodox QB in modern NFL, a defense that has been dominant when the game is changing to favor offenses and we've had some characters and drama to add into that mix. Other teams have scratched their heads at us figuring it out but they can't because we are unique. SO

3. The result is that when other teams and other fans have the chance to do the same to us (which lately doesn't happen that much - and especially by heated rivals in the Ravens) they go overboard with it because of what we've been able to do and "now it is their time." I live in the greater Baltimore area and let me tell you - everyone is on cloud nine down here while we are in these forums wondering where the season went already because of ONE LOSS. I admit I'm concerned after the lack of effort - but that is what I'm calling it - a lack of effort. In my heart of hearts, Ravens are not the better team, but rather we got the best of ourselves, and the expectations that go along with being Steelers and proud fans.

4. Nothing I said is new - you all know this. Just thought we might need a reminder (myself especially) that when Ben plays bad, or the defense plays bad - it can come across as the sky is falling - because that isn't the Steeler way. We don't lose to our rivals, especially in that matter. It has happened before, it just happened again and I believe we are better for it. Let's have some faith - these guys know how to bounce back. No way they come into our house next time and pull the same crap. Consider Ravens ON NOTICE . . .


Very well said and I couldn't agree more. Unfortunately it won't stop all the doomsayers posting on here.
This loss was an exception rather than the rule and the last I checked, you don't win playoff games in September.

desertsteel
09-13-2011, 11:26 AM
Whens everyone going to stop blaming the Oline ...you mean the the same Oline that was in the super bowl last year.

Yeah it's never Ben's fault! Sorry, but Manning or Brady would throw for 400 yards a game behind that line.

Sixburgher
09-13-2011, 11:40 AM
Yeah it's never Ben's fault! Sorry, but Manning or Brady would throw for 400 yards a game behind that line.

Sorry, but no, they'd get slaughtered behind it. See Super Bowl 42, the Patriots playoff game against the Jets last season, and their playoff game against the Ravens two years ago. See also Manning getting completely flustered in the divisional game against the Steelers back in 2005. Any QB will look great if they're given an hour of pocket time (see Patriots/Dolphins game last night).

SoCalFan
09-13-2011, 11:46 AM
Yeah it's never Ben's fault! Sorry, but Manning or Brady would throw for 400 yards a game behind that line.

Did you see the time baby brady had last night,I could have picked apart that fins D myself...That was like practice for him,and he seems to have protection like that more often than not!!!

vasteeler
09-13-2011, 11:57 AM
Yeah it's never Ben's fault! Sorry, but Manning or Brady would throw for 400 yards a game behind that line.


most retarded thing ive read all day:doh:

steelcity1974
09-13-2011, 11:58 AM
yeah o-line is mostly at fault. i think even tom brady would do jack shit if he didnt even have 2 seconds to throw

Agree. But the difference there is Brady has an OC that recognizes the need for quick timing plays and Brady runs them to perfection. Arians refuses to recognize our OL sucks so he calls plays that are broken from the beginning and then Ben is left to make it up on the fly. After a while it catches up with you. If we had a real offensive system, I think we could work with the guys we have and play to our strengths (or against our weaknesses if you want to look at it that way).

tanda10506
09-13-2011, 12:12 PM
Yeah it's never Ben's fault! Sorry, but Manning or Brady would throw for 400 yards a game behind that line.

Absolutely ridiculous statement. Manning gets frustrated easy and EVERYBODY knows the way to beat Brady is to get pressure on him. Ben sees as much pressure every game as Brady did last years playoff game vs the Jets.

ebsteelers
09-13-2011, 12:31 PM
No, not a Ravens troll...just a member who has been banned twice before, and is going to be banned again now.
Go play in traffic ...your another Ben Ballwasher. 100 million dollar contract that he is not living up to ! Like I asked when did he last play a great game ? How many years ago ?


If u wanna meet this ravens fan Ill be in the first motorhome in front of the River Casino... look for the Tailgaters motorhome.... douche.






welcome back dumper head... how many times do we have to bury you?

hahaha... he is the only one that continually bashes ben...


ben is not a stat guy, he had the biggest completion in the game in the afc championship to brown to finish the game..

how about vs the ravens in the playoffs?


o right ben stinks, trade him for brady...

brady or manning would be retired if they had our o line

ebsteelers
09-13-2011, 12:38 PM
Yeah it's never Ben's fault! Sorry, but Manning or Brady would throw for 400 yards a game behind that line.

this is as bad as a dumper comment.

have you seen manning and brady's o line over the past 5-10 years... best in the nfl year in and year our...

what justification do you have to think brady or manning would do well behind our o line? its not like they are very mobile,

maybe a rodgers, or vick would be the only guys useful in our offense with that stinkfest of an o an d line.


i thought games are one and lost in the trenches, guess we didnt get the memo on that

kirklandrules
09-13-2011, 01:21 PM
I posted in prior threads that I hate seeing the damned musical chairs they play with the line. Scott missed half the preseason games, Kemo too, Pouncy too, Legursky wasn't put in the 1st string until the 3rd game, was Colon in with the 1st stringers in every preseason game? So now they will have to do something with RT. It's not impossible for this line to start to gel in a few games, but they definitely need to play together and not have a constant rotation of men.

Marcia Brady threw for over 500 yards last night ... because she not only had 4-5 seconds to throw ... she has hours to sit in that pocket ... that chick was having a beer and sandwich in the backfield and even had time to find change for a tip in her big purse she carries with her.

Ben missed a huge opportunity on a blitz when he threw a hot route pass at Brown's feet. It appeared that Brown would have had a lot of open space in front of him had that pass been on the mark. But for the most part, Ben didn't have time to get set.

I'm still stunned on that Mendy fumble. Very much reminded me of his fumble in the SB. Johnson ran right past the d-tackle that made the hit just like he ran past Matthews in the SB. As a lead blocker, your taught to plow into the first defender you come across. He seems to miss those and that makes me miss a true FB (like Kreider ... aahh, the good old days).

Bill Cowher's Jaw
09-13-2011, 02:41 PM
Divisional round against Baltimore last year was his last great game. Total team effort....but his clutch 3rd and 19 pass was the play of the game.