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Hayeksheroes
09-29-2011, 01:40 PM
Ben to Wallace has been paying off. Its a much better play than the bubble screen, which the Steelers run like some late night infomercial.

I say heave it up to Wallace at least 5 times a game. Then do the same with Brown and Sanders. Unless the opponents back off the line and send some guys 30 yards deep, I'd go long as many times as possible. If they do that, then you hit Mendenhall on screens and send him off tackle. If they blitz, then you hit Sanders and Brown on slants.

Go long, Steelers, go long.

tony hipchest
09-29-2011, 01:42 PM
i love roethlisburger interceptions too! :cheer:

cloppbeast
09-29-2011, 02:09 PM
Ben to Wallace has been paying off. Its a much better play than the bubble screen, which the Steelers run like some late night infomercial.

I say heave it up to Wallace at least 5 times a game. Then do the same with Brown and Sanders. Unless the opponents back off the line and send some guys 30 yards deep, I'd go long as many times as possible. If they do that, then you hit Mendenhall on screens and send him off tackle. If they blitz, then you hit Sanders and Brown on slants.

Go long, Steelers, go long.

Arians, is that you? lol

Goldsteel86
09-29-2011, 02:21 PM
Well, interesting thought, but we don't have Swann or Stallworth any longer, I have an idea, how about a concept, set up the pass with the run, utilize Heath Miller across the middle, some slants and out patterns, then some deep outs/posts before we throw the fly. Lets keep the defense guessing, honest, and on their toes, but most importantly lets get back to Steeler football, pound the flipping ball!!!!!

kirklandrules
09-29-2011, 02:31 PM
The Steelers, this year, also like to run the ball for no gain or just 1 yard. I think they should call run plays for 10 -15 yards with the occasional surprise run of 50+ yards. I'm just sayin. :noidea:

steelerjim58
09-29-2011, 02:36 PM
While I do enjoy the bomb as much as anyone, I am not proposing going deep 10= times a game. We just do not have the o-line for that in any case. But in Wallace, Sanders, Brown , Ward and Miller I definately see the talent to consistently pick up 10-15 yards at a time. The bubble screen makes me want to puke everytime they run it. I would like to see a breakdown of the yardage gained every time they use it. Where are the slants, the out patterns to the sidelines? Am I crazy to think that Sanders and Brown are capable of doing anything that welker can do on a football field. Hell, belichick has found a way to get him voted into the top 100 in the league. I know that there are only so many ways to make up for a poor o-line, but Arians does not seem to be doing anything. Let Ben roll out more, try some swing passes to Mendenhall out of the backfield. When was the last time the Steelers ran anything that looked like a traditional screen pass?

Hayeksheroes
09-29-2011, 02:37 PM
i love roethlisburger interceptions too! :cheer:

Better than fumbling behind the line of scrimmage. A deep 60 yard throw is like a punt.
You might get an interference as a bonus.

StainlessStill
09-29-2011, 02:55 PM
Screw that. I say mix it up. Bring in Casey Hampton as an extra tight end and run that tight end delay screen to him 3 times in a row. The defense wouldn't know what hit them! Then the next series run two straight WR bubble screens to Ward. That will probably give us a total of 1 yard(s) so then on 3rd and 10, we can run the tight end delay screen AGAIN to Hampton for -4 then hope James Harrison strips Shaub and Polamalu would be there EVERY TIME to run it in for 6.

Genius.

Hayeksheroes
09-29-2011, 03:00 PM
Screw that. I say mix it up. Bring in Casey Hampton as an extra tight end and run that tight end delay screen to him 3 times in a row. The defense wouldn't know what hit them! Then the next series run two straight WR bubble screens to Ward. That will probably give us a total of 1 yard(s) so then on 3rd and 10, we can run the tight end delay screen AGAIN to Hampton for -4. Genius.

Arians thinks that he'll surprise the opponents with his one bomb a game plan. But I say "Carpet Bomb" from the get go. You'll surely catch the opponent by surprise. :chuckle::flap::applaudit:

Fire Arians
09-29-2011, 03:08 PM
james harrison at fullback! hopefully he doesn't get flagged for a 'roughing the middle linebacker' penalty though

FanSince72
09-29-2011, 04:27 PM
Ahh, I miss the good old days when Bradshaw would just tell someone to run towards the red Chevy parked near the end zone and look for the ball.

Life was simple back then!

tanda10506
09-29-2011, 04:35 PM
A lot of plays we run have at least one WR going deep. Ben has to have time to throw it and the receiver has to be open. I am all for throwing long a FEW more times a game, but the deep option WR cant always get open and Ben rarely gets time, so I doubt we will see it more. We have some good passing plays and if the o line gives the plays 3-4 seconds then they work great, but as mentioned, we need to get some quick outs and slant routes that form extremely quickly since the o line is so bad right now.

Steel4ever95
09-29-2011, 08:34 PM
Wallace, Brown and Sanders are pretty good playmakers, the long bomb is nice but let them make some moves out there and work the ball down field to tire out the d.

WickedSteel
09-29-2011, 09:03 PM
I don't know how many times I have watched a replay in which I see Brown, Sanders or Wallace wide open down the field only to look back and see Ben disappearing under a wall of humanity in the backfield. The O line simply isn't giving him enough time to find these guys. He needs at least 3-5 seconds to find these guys and be able to deliver a strong, accurate throw without someone in his face.

Now Ben is not without blame here either. He has such a desire to make a BIG play instead of just taking what the defense gives you that he constantly forces his blockers to hold their blocks way longer than they should. This also leads to more and more injuries as linemen get driven into each other and their ankles rolled up on by 600 lbs of force. Just like the play against Indy where Ben supposedly changed the play at the line yet the O line didn't realize it. They were expecting a quick release from Ben and blocked accordingly and then Ben needed the extra time to let Wallace get down field. This resulted in Ben getting strip sacked because his O line wasn't expecting a long ball.

It's great when Ben is able to extend a play and make a great play but it is detrimental more often than not. Unless Ben can spot something opening up quickly down the field, he needs to learn that it is alright to throw the ball away or end up punting. I think that he and Arians believe that they can make a big play EVERY time and sometimes that just isn't the case. The Steelers have the tools and weapons to be explosive if they are smart about it. Start hitting Brown, Sanders and Wallace on the quick slants and let them make some YAC. Have Mendy and Redman chip block someone and hit them in the flat. Hit those occasional bombs to Wallace down the field. Start spreading out defenses like so many other good offenses do. Have Ben get rid of the ball quicker thus resulting in less sacks and hits. This will give the O line more confidence and help them grow as a unit.

There are ways to make up for the weaknesses on the O line. This coaching staff just doesn't seem to want to do it.