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ebsteelers
10-19-2011, 12:30 PM
its from espn, kc joyner so take it for what its worth

After six weeks of the 2011 NFL season, there are a lot of questions still unanswered: Which team is the best? Will the Colts or Dolphins win a game? Will Tebowmania equal Beatlemania?



It might take a while for those queries to get clarification, but the one question that seems to have been definitively answered to the satisfaction of many is that Calvin Johnson is the best wide receiver in the NFL.



At some level, Johnson is certainly setting a pace that has not been equaled in a long time. According to ESPN Stats & Information, Megatron's nine touchdowns in the first five games were the most by any player through the first five games of any season dating back to 1940. They note that Johnson is on pace to break Randy Moss' NFL record 23 touchdown receptions set in 2007.



That might be enough to put Johnson in the top spot, but he is assisted by the drop-off of some of the other potential leading contenders, some because of injury (Miles Austin, Andre Johnson, Hakeem Nicks) and others because of reduced production (Larry Fitzgerald, Roddy White).

Before handing that honor to Johnson by acclamation, however, he should have to go through the same type of "challenge system" that Bear Bryant used to settle positional battles on his team. This method allowed any player to call for a one-on-one clash in a variety of areas to see who was the best at executing the key responsibilities of the position (as we did with Austin and Andre Johnson last season to see who was the best wideout in the league at that time). The winner gets to claim the prize as best wideout.



The big question is who should be chosen to challenge Johnson? Even with the aforementioned drop-off of the top contenders, there is one player who has more than enough to play the role of Optimus Prime -- Pittsburgh Steelers wide receiver Mike Wallace.



Wallace is almost never mentioned as one of the top five wideouts in the league, much less as the best, but look at how his numbers this season stack up against Johnson in a variety of categories. (Note: all attempt and yardage totals include penalty plays such as defensive holding, illegal contact, pass interference, etc.).




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Short passes (aerials thrown downfield 10 or fewer yards)



Johnson has gained 202 yards on 27 short pass attempts, so 7.5 yards per attempt.



Wallace has 205 yards on 22 short pass attempts, which equates to a 9.3 short pass YPA.



Medium passes (11-19 yards downfield)



Johnson has racked up 163 yards on 16 medium pass attempts for a 10.2 medium YPA.



Wallace has 117 yards on 11 medium pass attempts for a 10.6 medium YPA.



Deep passes (20-29 yards downfield)



Johnson has posted 59 yards on six deep pass attempts for a 9.8 deep YPA.



Wallace has been targeted on a deep pass only one time this season and it didn't result in a completion or a penalty, so he has zero yards in this category.



Bomb passes (30 or more yards downfield)



Johnson has tallied 145 yards on six bomb pass attempts for a 24.2 bomb YPA.



Wallace has 329 yards on nine bomb passes for a 36.6 bomb YPA.



Vertical (all medium, deep and bomb passes)



Johnson has been targeted for 28 vertical passes and has gained 367 yards on those throws. That gives him a 13.1 vertical YPA.



Wallace has been targeted for 21 vertical passes and posted 446 yards on those throws, giving him a 21.2 vertical YPA.



Stretch vertical (all deep/bomb passes -- the ones designed to really stretch defensive coverage)



Johnson has 12 targets on stretch vertical passes and gained 204 yards on those aerials. That equates to a 17 stretch vertical YPA.



Wallace has 10 targets on stretch vertical passes and posted 329 yards on those aerials. That equates to a 32.9 stretch vertical YPA.



Yards after catch



Johnson has been credited with 129 yards after catch this season.



Wallace has 183 yards after catch this season.



Overall YPA



Add all of Johnson's totals up, and he has 569 yards on 55 targets, a 10.3 overall YPA.



Wallace has 651 yards on 43 targets, or a 15.1 overall YPA.




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It's one thing to simply subscribe to the numbers and players must also pass the eye test, but these totals show Wallace as superior thus far in short, medium, bomb, vertical, stretch vertical, yards after catch and overall YPA categories. If he's not dominant in one, he's consistently better in all.



Not only that, Wallace has 82 more total yards than Johnson despite having 12 fewer targets.



That evidence alone would point to Wallace being the better wideout, but there are two potential arguments against this claim.



The first is that Johnson has a 9-4 lead on touchdown receptions. True, but consider this: Johnson has been thrown a pass in the end zone nine times this season and has converted five of those into touchdowns.



By contrast, Wallace has only four end zone targets this season. He has converted three into touchdowns and one into a pass interference penalty that gave the Steelers a first down at the opponent's 1-yard line. What this means is that when Pittsburgh gives Wallace a shot at an end zone pass, so far, he is even better at converting it into a touchdown than Johnson is.



The second argument is that Wallace can't be given this honor after only six games. It takes longer than that to establish someone as the best at his position.



The counter is that Wallace could make a claim as having been the most dominant wideout in the league in 2010 as well. His 13.8 overall YPA was by far the best in the league (it was 1.7 yards better than Kenny Britt's second-place finish in that category). Wallace was the only wideout to post a short pass YPA of higher than 10 yards (10.2). Wallace also ranked tied for third in vertical YPA (16.6) and was fifth in stretch vertical YPA among wide receivers with at least 20 targets at that depth (20.3).



That shows his overall dominance, but for the sake of this discussion, it should be noted that he gained 154 more yards than Johnson last season (1,295 to 1,141) despite being targeted 40 fewer times (134 for Johnson vs. 94 for Wallace). Wallace also had a better touchdown-to-target ratio (once every 9.4 passes vs. once every 11.2 targets for Johnson).



No matter which way you look at, Wallace bests Johnson. At the moment, that makes him the heavyweight champion of NFL wide receivers.

Fire Arians
10-19-2011, 12:41 PM
im a huge wallace fan but no way at this point in their careers he's better than megatron

fer522
10-19-2011, 12:54 PM
The first is that Johnson has a 9-4 lead on touchdown receptions. True, but consider this: Johnson has been thrown a pass in the end zone nine times this season and has converted five of those into touchdowns

megatron is a bigger red zone threat IMO

tanda10506
10-19-2011, 01:04 PM
im a huge wallace fan but no way at this point in their careers he's better than megatron

I think it seems like Johnson is better because he is a touchdown highlight real. But the stats show that all around, Wallace is much more productive and effecient. If I was asked who I thought was better before I read this I would have said Johnson.

DanRooney
10-19-2011, 01:16 PM
Calvin is the best WR in the game right now.

Vis
10-19-2011, 01:27 PM
Calvin is the best WR in the game right now.


Yes. Wallace is great at what he does but there are things he can't do. That's ok, we have other players for those other roles. But Calvin can do it all. That's why Wallace has stats of a gamebreaker, it's the things he isn't asked to do which would lower his yards per catch.

Fire Arians
10-19-2011, 01:29 PM
I think it seems like Johnson is better because he is a touchdown highlight real. But the stats show that all around, Wallace is much more productive and effecient. If I was asked who I thought was better before I read this I would have said Johnson.

well i'm not saying mike is bad, I'll say he's a top 5 WR now.

you can't really compare the two because they are totally different WR's. Wallace if he gets behind you, he's gone. Johnson will beat you with his size but is less likely to rip a homerun after the catch (though he is VERY capable still of doing so)

red zone threat is way in favor of johnson because of his height. wallace is fast but doesn't have the body type to match what johnson can do in the red zone

yards and other stats are nice, but sometimes you have to look at the touchdowns, points are what wins games, and Johnson scores a lot.

skinart82
10-19-2011, 04:58 PM
I'll take Wallace

Fire Arians
10-19-2011, 05:59 PM
I'll take Wallace

I ain't gonna complain if wallace is our #1 wr, but i bet the thought of calvin johnson in a steelers uniform would give ben roethlisberger a boner

GMU Steeler
10-19-2011, 07:41 PM
It's hard to believe we got Wallace in the third round. No disrespect to Calvin Johnson who is a great WR but everyone knew he was going to be a star. When we drafted Wallace a couple years back, I had no idea who he was and didn't know a thing about him. Maybe this is more a tribute to our scouts than Wallace or Johnson but the fact we got Mike in the third round is nothing short of amazing. I hope we resign him. I need a Wallace jersey :).

skinart82
10-19-2011, 08:24 PM
I would love to have Calvin Johnson too, he's an amazing talent, but if I had to choose I would take wallace, just my opinion though. No disrespect on the guy.

steelax04
10-19-2011, 08:50 PM
Is it really that bad to be second to Calvin Johnson? I'm just glad the Steelers have one of the two.

WickedSteel
10-19-2011, 09:21 PM
I love Wallace to death but Calvin Johnson is a beast, hence his nickname. Wallace has an incredible play making ability with his speed but Megatron can do it all. Wallace is not really a red zone threat, something that the Steelers really lack. Sweed was supposed to be that guy but we all know the story there.

Overall I think that Wallace is one of the top receivers in the league. If he played on the Packers he would probably have 10 TDs already. This O line in the burgh really holds his potential back. I believe that on a team with a great O line he could achieve 2,000 yards and 20 TDs easily. I don't know if there is anyone in the league that can keep up with him when he goes.

Fire Arians
10-19-2011, 10:34 PM
Is it really that bad to be second to Calvin Johnson? I'm just glad the Steelers have one of the two.

well I'm glad we don't have johnson, that would have meant we had to suck bad enough to pick #2 in the draft :chuckle:

wallace in round 3 for the amount of production he's giving us is like hitting jackpot though

Steelerfreak58
10-19-2011, 11:06 PM
Megatron is the best in the game right now . The dude is a physical specimen and money in the Red Zone.

I love Wallace but I think if you are a QB in this league and you got to pick between the two most would pick CJ.

steeltheone
10-20-2011, 06:09 AM
Anybody picking Wallace over CJ is a homer!

JustinM
10-20-2011, 10:25 AM
Calvin Johnson is on the LIONS. I believe that automatically boosts him up a few notches. Sorry Wallace.

MDSteel15
10-20-2011, 01:39 PM
I ain't gonna complain if wallace is our #1 wr, but i bet the thought of calvin johnson in a steelers uniform would give ben roethlisberger a boner

boiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiing :doh:
Sorry, I just thought of having both of them...

DanRooney
10-20-2011, 01:53 PM
Anybody picking Wallace over CJ is a homer!

Oh there are plenty of delusionals lurking on this board :wink02:

PhantomJB93
10-20-2011, 02:36 PM
Calvin Johnson is, by far, bar none, the best WR in the league, and I've been saying that for the past 2-3 years (not just hopping on his bandwagon this year). As much as I love Wallace, I'd trade our entire receiving corps for him in a heartbeat. That's how good he is.

stb_steeler
10-20-2011, 03:20 PM
NFL Net reports Wallace has a hamstring injury.....Hope that doesnt get serious.

fuzzy159
10-20-2011, 03:29 PM
I love me some Wallace but Megatron is the best.


Mike could cement his spot as a top 5 WR this year. I personally think he has already done that but I am a homer so yeah haha

RatbirdExtreme
10-22-2011, 09:51 PM
Fourth down at the 5 with the game on the line, theres not an objective football fan alive who would take Wallace over Megatron. The man is absurdly talented. Not that Wallace is a slouch, hes frankly better than any of our WRs on the Ravens.

But he's no Megatron.

ebsteelers
10-24-2011, 08:39 AM
wallace 95 to the house

effyou515
10-24-2011, 08:42 AM
don't care l think Wallace looks damn good in a Steelers uniform.

wera176
10-24-2011, 11:18 AM
Fourth down at the 5 with the game on the line, theres not an objective football fan alive who would take Wallace over Megatron. The man is absurdly talented. Not that Wallace is a slouch, hes frankly better than any of our WRs on the Ravens.

But he's no Megatron.

Which 5? 5 to go? Maybe Megatron, 95 to go? WALLACE! :tt02:

SmashmouthFootball
10-24-2011, 11:29 AM
I hate these types of comparisons and debates. They're both awesome recievers who bring big play capabilities to their team. Johnson is a better all around physical talent. Johnson is harder to guard because playing him perfectly means nothing, (though the same is starting to be true for Wallace), but it's easier to make a mistake guarding Wallace and if you make a mistake, you will pay.

I'm glad we have Mike. I'm deliriously pleased with our front office for getting him in the third round and I'm giddy with excitement about how they built around him by getting Sanders and Brown(6th round STEAL).

Excellent value and great draft execution getting such a stud recieving corps with such late picks has allowed us to use first and 2nd rounders on guys like Pouncey, Marcus Gilbert, Ziggy, Cam Heyward, Timmons, Mendenhall. We keep replenishing our defense so that we're never truly "aging", and we get guys who are staples on the team going forward(Timmons at LB, Pouncey at C).

Just another example of great drafting and it's the reason we have 6 rings.