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SteelersMongol
06-18-2006, 01:00 PM
What U guys think?

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The first thing I'd like to hear out of Ben Roethlisberger's mouth when he speaks to the public is: "I'm going to wear a helmet every time I ride a motorcycle from now on.''

The second thing I'd like to hear him say is: "Of course, I'm not going to get on a motorcycle again until I retire from football.''

After people let out a sigh of relief that Roethlisberger was OK, here's what most of them said: "Why is the kid riding a motorcycle? It's too dangerous anyway.''

Not me. Hundreds of athletes ride motorcycles. You're telling me that no active player should be allowed to ride a motorcycle and that every team should have a no-bike clause in every player's contract? I don't buy it. Athletes shouldn't be banned from an activity like that. But I'll tell you what clause should be in every player's contract: a stipulation that a player's deal could be voided if he's ever found to be riding a motorcycle without a helmet.

And while we're at it, how dumb does Pennsylvania look for not making helmets mandatory? I heard a state legislator on the radio this morning say that this accident wouldn't cause him to change his mind. It's about human rights, he said. Riders should not be forced to wear a helmet.

I've got one for you, Mr. Politician. Let's repeal seat-belt laws, and gun laws, and minimum drinking ages, and let's just let America be the Wild, Wild West. Do what you want, when you want.

Laws are made to protect people, even when they think they don't need protecting. Wearing a helmet while riding a motorcycle is about as basic as one can get in terms of human safety. It's irresponsible to argue the other side.

I'm glad to hear Roethlisberger is going to be OK. The game, its fans and that city would miss him terribly if he were laid up.

BBC
06-18-2006, 01:08 PM
I think this is getting a little ridiculous. Don't we have more important things going on in the NFL than players riding motorcycles without helmets? How about the fact that Chris Henry got arrested for what? The fourth time in his short career? Or that guys like Sean Taylor and Jamal Lewis are still playing in the league without missing a single game. Why is the focus on motorcycle helmets and touchdown celebrations, when there is so much wrong with the NFL already?

Black@Gold Forever32
06-18-2006, 01:14 PM
I think this is getting a little ridiculous. Don't we have more important things going on in the NFL than players riding motorcycles without helmets? How about the fact that Chris Henry got arrested for what? The fourth time in his short career? Or that guys like Sean Taylor and Jamal Lewis are still playing in the league without missing a single game. Why is the focus on motorcycle helmets and touchdown celebrations, when there is so much wrong with the NFL already?

BBC, I agree there is more important issues going on in the NFL then motorcyle riding and wearing or not wearing helmets. But I think these athletes should stay off of them. There is millions of dollars invested in these players. I know NFL contracts are not guaranteed like other pro sports contracts. But the teams still have to pay signing bonus's to the players. I think the players owe their organizations that much to say off the motorcycles. Just my though on the issue. But I'm a simple nobody. Anyway is it football season yet?

BBC
06-18-2006, 01:25 PM
BBC, I agree there is more important issues going on in the NFL then motorcyle riding and wearing or not wearing helmets. But I think these athletes should stay off of them. There is millions of dollars invested in these players. I know NFL contracts are not guaranteed like other pro sports contracts. But the teams still have to pay signing bonus's to the players. I think the players owe their organizations that much to say off the motorcycles. Just my though on the issue. But I'm a simple nobody. Anyway is it football season yet?

I get where you're coming from, and I agree that players shouldn't be on motorcycles. I just feel that we should see more articles about guys like Henry, Taylor, and Lewis, and less like these.

Black@Gold Forever32
06-18-2006, 01:31 PM
I get where you're coming from, and I agree that players shouldn't be on motorcycles. I just feel that we should see more articles about guys like Henry, Taylor, and Lewis, and less like these.

I totally agree BBC. There should be more attention focused on the thug problem in the NFL. But one thing to consider also. Chris Henry, Sean Taylor and Jamal Lewis are not as a big of name as Ben Roethlisberger. Thats the big reason there was so much attention for Ben's wreck. Big Ben is QB for the defending Super Bowl champs and the youngest QB ever to win one. So thats why Ben recieved so much attention.

tony hipchest
06-18-2006, 01:32 PM
I get where you're coming from, and I agree that players shouldn't be on motorcycles. I just feel that we should see more articles about guys like Henry, Taylor, and Lewis, and less like these. i could go for more articles about guys like jerome, warric dunn, and walter payton

BBC
06-18-2006, 01:36 PM
i could go for more articles about guys like jerome, warric dunn, and walter payton

Yes, but I'm sure you understand the point that I'm making.

BlacknGold Bleeder
06-18-2006, 04:27 PM
BTW Ben did say if he rides again he will wear a helmet.
The media today is into reporting what will get more attention then "feel good stories".

Big D
06-18-2006, 04:35 PM
I think this is getting a little ridiculous. Don't we have more important things going on in the NFL than players riding motorcycles without helmets? How about the fact that Chris Henry got arrested for what? The fourth time in his short career? Or that guys like Sean Taylor and Jamal Lewis are still playing in the league without missing a single game. Why is the focus on motorcycle helmets and touchdown celebrations, when there is so much wrong with the NFL already?
Ok I have two points here. One I agree you have a drug dealer and somebody that shoots at people and a piece of shit like chris henry who dont have anything in there contracts about being a dumb ass. But people are bitching about helmets? come on what the hell is wrong with people. Why I take offense to this shit so much is because i'm bens age 24 and i've been riding a sport bike for 8 years. Let me tell you without being bashed that I very rarely wear a helmet. Ok peeps let me have it. But my point is this being 24 i can really stick up for ben on the fact that america is a free country pro sports teams shouldnt be telling a grown man what he can and cannont due. Ben didnt break the law when he rode without a helmet the way i dont break the law when I ride a helmet. What alot of people forget is bens 24, Yes he is a leader of a pro sports team but let the man act his age without bitching at him for doing so. He isnt bungy jumping or jumping out of planes. Let it go people

Black@Gold Forever32
06-18-2006, 04:38 PM
Ok I have two points here. One I agree you have a drug dealer and somebody that shoots at people and a piece of shit like chris henry who dont have anything in there contracts about being a dumb ass. But people are bitching about helmets? come on what the hell is wrong with people. Why I take offense to this shit so much is because i'm bens age 24 and i've been riding a sport bike for 8 years. Let me tell you without being bashed that I very rarely wear a helmet. Ok peeps let me have it. But my point is this being 24 i can really stick up for ben on the fact that america is a free country pro sports teams shouldnt be telling a grown man what he can and cannont due. Ben didnt break the law when he rode without a helmet the way i dont break the law when I ride a helmet. What alot of people forget is bens 24, Yes he is a leader of a pro sports team but let the man act his age without bitching at him for doing so. He isnt bungy jumping or jumping out of planes. Let it go people

Ok big difference between you and Ben is. You don't have millions of dollars invested in you like the Steelers do with Ben. Ben can't act like a normal 24 old man and has to hold himself to a higher standard. I think he owes the Steelers and his teammates to say off the bike.

Big D
06-18-2006, 04:39 PM
I agree with that fact he has millions on the line. But if its his choice to ride and risk the money thats his choice. I sat and was hoping ben would fall to the steelers when they drafted him. I'm a huge ben fan. But let him make his own selfish choices

Black@Gold Forever32
06-18-2006, 04:45 PM
I agree with that fact he has millions on the line. But if its his choice to ride and risk the money thats his choice. I sat and was hoping ben would fall to the steelers when they drafted him. I'm a huge ben fan. But let him make his own selfish choices

Dude I have watched Ben Roethlisberger since his college days. So i'm a huge Big Ben fan. I to wanted Ben to fall to us and more then glad he did. Ben has exceeded my expectations of him so far. A Super Bowl win in his second year. I thought Ben would lead us to a Super Bowl win in his career. I just didn't think it would be this soon.

Your right Ben has the right to make his own selfish choices. But I think thats unfair to the organization that drated him and gave his chance to play in the NFL. I also think it would be unfair to his teammates that are counting on him to lead this team. I'm not mad at Ben. Thats just how I feel.

Big D
06-18-2006, 04:50 PM
Dude I have watched Ben Roethlisberger since his college days. So i'm a huge Big Ben fan. I to wanted Ben to fall to us and more then glad he did. Ben has exceeded my expectations of him so far. A Super Bowl win in his second year. I thought Ben would lead us to a Super Bowl win in his career. I just didn't think it would be this soon.

Your right Ben has the right to make his own selfish choices. But I think thats unfair to the organization that drated him and gave his chance to play in the NFL. I also think it would be unfair to his teammates that are counting on him to lead this team. I'm not mad at Ben. Thats just how I feel.
and i understand your point on this issue. But just think about this what if your boss at your job started telling you what you can and cannot due. Your fellow co workers depend on your just as much as bens teammates depend on you. I'm not saying heres the keys the busa benny show kellen up do wheelies and act as stupid as you want. All i'm saying is life is all about choices if his choice is to ride even after the accident let him ride. But I hope he slips the helmet on.

Black@Gold Forever32
06-18-2006, 05:03 PM
and i understand your point on this issue. But just think about this what if your boss at your job started telling you what you can and cannot due. Your fellow co workers depend on your just as much as bens teammates depend on you. I'm not saying heres the keys the busa benny show kellen up do wheelies and act as stupid as you want. All i'm saying is life is all about choices if his choice is to ride even after the accident let him ride. But I hope he slips the helmet on.

Thats a good point. But I did have to give something up when I started working with my current employer three years ago. I used to smoke weed alot. But the company I work for gives their employees drug tests. So I stopped smoking weed. So really my company does tell if I can or can't do certain things. Granted smoking weed is illeagal and riding a motorcyle is not. I know I'm comparing apples to oranges. Maybe I should compare my situation to Ricky Williams. Sorry

Big D
06-18-2006, 05:06 PM
Thats a good point. But I did have to give something up when I started working with my current employer three years ago. I used to smoke weed alot. But the company I work for gives their employees drug tests. So I stopped smoking weed. So really my company does tell if I can or can't do certain things. Granted smoking weed is illeagal and riding a motorcyle is not. I know I'm comparing apples to oranges. Maybe I should compare my situation to Ricky Williams. Sorry
thats a great post about the weed thing. But what you brought up was true about smoking weed is against the law riding a bike isnt. I'm not looking for a debate. I just want the steeler nation to remeber america is a free conntry and ben should ben able to make the same choices anybody else can make in life

Black@Gold Forever32
06-18-2006, 05:10 PM
thats a great post about the weed thing. But what you brought up was true about smoking weed is against the law riding a bike isnt. I'm not looking for a debate. I just want the steeler nation to remeber america is a free conntry and ben should ben able to make the same choices anybody else can make in life

I hear you bro. I'm not saying your wrong. I'm also not saying I'm wrong. Lets face it if we all agree on everything this world would be a boring place to live. Its all good bro. We are Steelers fans and the Steelers are the champs. Life is good.

BBC
06-18-2006, 05:23 PM
Thats a good point. But I did have to give something up when I started working with my current employer three years ago. I used to smoke weed alot. But the company I work for gives their employees drug tests. So I stopped smoking weed. So really my company does tell if I can or can't do certain things. Granted smoking weed is illeagal and riding a motorcyle is not. I know I'm comparing apples to oranges. Maybe I should compare my situation to Ricky Williams. Sorry

For the record, riding a motorcycle without a license is illegal, so what Ben did was indeed breaking the law.

Big D
06-18-2006, 05:25 PM
ok thats a very good point too. But its not like he was being a felon or doing drugs or drinking and driving.

Black@Gold Forever32
06-18-2006, 05:29 PM
For the record, riding a motorcycle without a license is illegal, so what Ben did was indeed breaking the law.

Thanks for correcting me on that. I forgot that Ben didn't have a license for the motorcycle. Sorry where was my brain. Its that damn weed I used to smoke.