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nicesteel4life
06-22-2006, 03:07 PM
The Steelers are trying to block a proposal for a slot machine casino on the North Shore near Heinz Field.

In formal objections filed with the state Gaming Control Board, the team said a casino would "seriously conflict" with development plans for land between PNC Park and Heinz Field, add to existing parking and traffic woes, and create concerns for the National Football League, which is opposed to links between its teams and players and gambling.

"We feel there needs to be some distance between facilities like this and sports facilities," Steelers President Arthur J. Rooney II said yesterday.

The letter to the gaming board formalizes the Steelers' oft-stated opposition to a North Shore casino. Team officials initially opposed a plan by Alco Parking Corp. President Merrill Stabile to build a casino near PNC Park.

Although Mr. Stabile later dropped his plan, Detroit businessman Don Barden is seeking to build a $410 million Majestic Star casino between the Carnegie Science Center and West End Bridge.

The Steelers and Pirates are working with Continental Real Estate Cos. to redevelop land between the two stadiums. So far that has resulted in construction of office buildings and a plan to build an amphitheater and entertainment district known as Pittsburgh Live!.

Mr. Rooney said the development plan never included gambling. In its letter, the team said the city had assured the two office anchors -- Equitable Resources and Del Monte Foods -- that there would not be gambling on the North Shore.

Another concern is parking, Mr. Rooney said. The Steelers now have about 5,000 spaces available for game days, but they fear parking will be in even greater demand with the proposed Pittsburgh Live! district and future development. Adding a casino will create a greater crunch, he said.

Mr. Barden dismissed the concerns, accusing the team of trying to stifle competition. He said he is planning restaurants and bars as part of his proposal that would compete with the Continental and Pittsburgh Live! developments.

"It's not what's good for the community, Pittsburgh or the state of Pennsylvania, it's what's good for their own pockets," he said.

Not so, Mr. Rooney countered in an e-mail.

"Not being from Pittsburgh, I don't think Mr. Barden would have a true understanding of what happens on the North Shore on a Steeler Sunday, [or worse, Monday night]. The competition I'm concerned about is the competition for parking and access to highways," he said.

Mr. Barden said he is proposing to build a 4,000- to 5,000-space parking garage to accommodate additional traffic.

He questioned the Steelers' objectivity, noting that Nationwide Realty Investors, a Columbus developer teaming with Isle of Capri Casinos Inc. on a redevelopment plan for the Hill District, also is working with Continental on the North Shore development. Isle of Capri is competing against Mr. Barden's venture for the city's only casino license.

"I think they have unclean hands when it comes to the credibility or merit of their opposition," he said.

While Nationwide is an equity partner with Continental on the North Shore, it has no direct relationship with the Steelers, Mr. Rooney said. Frank Kass, Continental chairman, also noted that the Steelers, Continental and other North Shore stakeholders opposed North Shore gambling before Nationwide hooked up with Isle of Capri.

"That's incorrect and groping for an excuse," he said of Mr. Barden's charge.

Mr. Barden called Mr. Rooney's concerns about gambling being close to Heinz Field "ridiculous." He said Detroit's Greektown casino is within a couple of blocks of Ford Field, where the Super Bowl was played, and the NFL registered no objections.

"It's just an excuse," he said.


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:boxing: WE DONT WANT NO CASINO RUINING THE VIEW :boxing:

section514
06-22-2006, 03:16 PM
i say put it somewhere else, if they put it between the science center and west end bridger, where is half of steeler nation supposed to taligate? thats where all those empty lots are.

Stlrs4Life
06-22-2006, 10:42 PM
Well, heck on them now, we don't need no more BS beteween PNC and Heinz. He's no better:

"The Steelers and Pirates are working with Continental Real Estate Cos. to redevelop land between the two stadiums. So far that has resulted in construction of office buildings and a plan to build an amphitheater and entertainment district known as Pittsburgh Live!."

Lyn
06-22-2006, 11:04 PM
A few years ago we were having this huge tailgate party, it was the Steeler/Browns Wildcard game. (the best Steeler game I have seen) But to stay focused...............

There was a rather large group of tailgaters next to us and you could tell they had set up a tailgate a few hundred times. We began talking and this man told us that in the near future tailgating as he and I know it will be a thing of the past at Heinz Field. I was pretty sure he had too much to drink and politely ignored him. But, I think he knew exactly what he was saying. He told me that parking garages were going to litter the tailgate lots, in the years to come. Heck who knows? Seems like the last few years they have (ALCO...the parking Gods) came out with all kinds of changes, we adjusted.

Haiku_Dirtt
06-22-2006, 11:38 PM
A few years ago we were having this huge tailgate party, it was the Steeler/Browns Wildcard game. (the best Steeler game I have seen) But to stay focused...............

There was a rather large group of tailgaters next to us and you could tell they had set up a tailgate a few hundred times. We began talking and this man told us that in the near future tailgating as he and I know it will be a thing of the past at Heinz Field. I was pretty sure he had too much to drink and politely ignored him. But, I think he knew exactly what he was saying. He told me that parking garages were going to litter the tailgate lots, in the years to come. Heck who knows? Seems like the last few years they have (ALCO...the parking Gods) came out with all kinds of changes, we adjusted.

"They paved paradise, And put up a parking lot..." Great lyric by Joni Mitchell.

I wouldn't trust ALCO period. I only get back to the area a couple times a year but I got the sense that the 800 pound guerilla is moving in.

Even the damn music at Heinz Field is too much. I didn't realize until the Pro Bowl (same tracks) that it is standard for NFL stadiums - or I think it is. I like music that loud at a concert but having it jammed into my ears as the networks force feed commercials to those watching on TV is the future of the NFL. I'm seldom there but at Heinz Field I'm there to watch a football game.

Pittsburgh is a victim of its own terrain. I like what the glaciers did but it would have been nice if they took a little more with them on their way past The Point.

They are going to 'tear down tradition and put up a parking lot.' It's a disgrace.