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SteelCurtainCall
01-06-2012, 07:59 PM
I was just watching a couple videos online about high ankle spain injuries. It almost totally restricts lateral movement, like the kind Ben uses to extend plays. Also takes about 4 to 6 weeks before a player can/should return to playing, and most of the decisions Ben, or the coaching staff have made; have been the worst decisions they could have made. Had he taken from the Browns game, when he injured it, until now; he would have been 85% back to his normal strength. There's a low ankle sprain that is much easier to play on, and that's the most common injury. If you guys already knew this stuff, sorry about that. Just thought it might be interesting. Google the videos if your interested.
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OX1947
01-06-2012, 08:07 PM
You can blame the coaching staff, you can blame play calling, you can blame weather, bottom line is, Big Ben plays like an a-hole. Sure, it is great when he makes that impossible play happen, but the man is 29, in his 8th year and he isn't Tim Tebow. He can be a disciplined, in the pocket QB. He has the arm, the skill and the experience to do it. Once in a while is fine, but he needs think about his longevity and health. Steve McNair played with a lot of injuries and played hard, but he only last 9 years before he completely hit the wall physically.

tony hipchest
01-06-2012, 08:40 PM
Steve McNair played with a lot of injuries and played hard, but he only last 9 years before he completely hit the wall physically.

thats ben though...

i loved how steve mcnair played the game. ben is gonna play 100% balls to the wall in every game. he isnt about self preservation. he is all about winning as many championships as quickly as possible.

he would rather win 3 championships in the next 4 years than win none and extend his career another 3 years for an extra $75 mil.

he is wired a bit differently. he doesnt care about statistical records, longevity, or playing for the fans for 15 years. he's already said he'll walk away from the game before he changes.

lipps83
01-06-2012, 08:42 PM
You can blame the coaching staff, you can blame play calling, you can blame weather, bottom line is, Big Ben plays like an a-hole. Sure, it is great when he makes that impossible play happen, but the man is 29, in his 8th year and he isn't Tim Tebow. He can be a disciplined, in the pocket QB. He has the arm, the skill and the experience to do it. Once in a while is fine, but he needs think about his longevity and health. Steve McNair played with a lot of injuries and played hard, but he only last 9 years before he completely hit the wall physically.

Well said!!!:applaudit:

With Ben playing that way, and Arians running the most ridiculous offense of all-time, I am surprised sometimes that Ben is still playing at a high level.

Not many notice that Ben wasn't getting sacked so often his first two years in the league. Once doofus (Arians) took over this offense Ben has been getting killed regularly. Yes, he has always ran out of the pocket to extend plays, but these days he has to do it nearly every play because dum-dums plays take so long to develop.

Only time will tell how well his body is going to keep up.

jjpro11
01-06-2012, 11:47 PM
the timing of the injury was horrible.. it was just too late in the season to be able to shut him down for a long stretch and let him fully heal.. we were right in the middle of the race of the #1 seed when he got hurt.. the Steelers obviously didn't think Batch could beat the 49ers and lead us to the #1 seed. also, does anyone really have much faith in Ben coming off a month long layoff? i sure don't. in 2005 he got hurt early enough in the season so that we could shut him down for a couple weeks and let him get healthy. when he came back, he had time to shake off the rust and be fully healed for the stretch run. it nearly cost us a trip to the playoffs altogether, but it obviously worked out for the best. we simply didn't have that luxury this season. it's a catch 22 situation. if you sit him for a month to get healthy, he'll probably comes back very rusty as evidenced by his past performances coming off long layoffs.. the other option is to play him through the injury, hope for no set-backs and let it heal over time. this way you can avoid a rusty Ben in the first round, but you risk him getting hurt worse.

cubanstogie
01-07-2012, 12:17 AM
Well said!!!:applaudit:

With Ben playing that way, and Arians running the most ridiculous offense of all-time, I am surprised sometimes that Ben is still playing at a high level.

Not many notice that Ben wasn't getting sacked so often his first two years in the league. Once doofus (Arians) took over this offense Ben has been getting killed regularly. Yes, he has always ran out of the pocket to extend plays, but these days he has to do it nearly every play because dum-dums plays take so long to develop.

Only time will tell how well his body is going to keep up.

Seriously, you guys have the audacity to second guess the way Ben plays. LOL. That takes arm chair quarterbacking a little too far. The guy has been to 3 SB's with his style and has played with many injuries. Sounds a little ungrateful to me.

60_MINUTES
01-07-2012, 12:22 AM
BEN is gonna be fine... I agree he is hurt a little this time but make no mistake about it he still enjoys playing the injuries up a bit.. BEN wont be our problem this weekend if we struggle... Pouncey being out and doug playing with a bad shoulder is what scares me... Essex, Doug, Foster... that does not sound like a superbowl winning combonation to me guys... we need pouncey back next week and we need him to be at least 75 percent lets cross our fingers

lipps83
01-08-2012, 12:52 PM
Seriously, you guys have the audacity to second guess the way Ben plays. LOL. That takes arm chair quarterbacking a little too far. The guy has been to 3 SB's with his style and has played with many injuries. Sounds a little ungrateful to me.

I don't really have a problem with the way Ben plays and never in my post did I mention that I did. I don't see how you get that I said that from what I had written? I have a problem with Arians and I think that is fairly obvious from what I wrote.

My only things with Ben is that I sometimes feel that he might be struggling to read a defense properly. That and he will seldom (if ever) use his check down options (that may even be wide open for a first down) to go 30 yards down the field for an incomplete pass.

Ben is definitely big play, but that is not always going to be a good thing. Arians has absolutely catered to that so much so that a smart quick passing game (like the Saints demonstrated quite effectively last night against the Lions) and the running game are mere after thoughts and are only used as an option to appease the running backs and fans. Those stupid bubble screens more often than not accomplish nothing.

Arians is the problem and an adjustment needs to be made at some level. With how much we are passing and the talent level of this offense, Ben should be on the verge of breaking records, but he isn't even close.

Arians is an incompetent nincompoop.

lipps83
01-08-2012, 01:07 PM
And just to clarify what I mean by breaking records, I mean with the offense scoring.

I don't care if Ben passed for 6,000 yard, if they can't score the yardage is useless. With the exception of the Broncos the Steelers are the lowest scoring team in the playoffs.

cubanstogie
01-08-2012, 01:21 PM
I don't really have a problem with the way Ben plays and never in my post did I mention that I did. I don't see how you get that I said that from what I had written? I have a problem with Arians and I think that is fairly obvious from what I wrote.

My only things with Ben is that I sometimes feel that he might be struggling to read a defense properly. That and he will seldom (if ever) use his check down options (that may even be wide open for a first down) to go 30 yards down the field for an incomplete pass.

Ben is definitely big play, but that is not always going to be a good thing. Arians has absolutely catered to that so much so that a smart quick passing game (like the Saints demonstrated quite effectively last night against the Lions) and the running game are mere after thoughts and are only used as an option to appease the running backs and fans. Those stupid bubble screens more often than not accomplish nothing.

Arians is the problem and an adjustment needs to be made at some level. With how much we are passing and the talent level of this offense, Ben should be on the verge of breaking records, but he isn't even close.

Arians is an incompetent nincompoop.

someone mentioned Ben played like an A hole, and you agreed with his post. Thats why I said you guys. No biggie. Ben plays his best when he improvises, breaks tackles and scrambles. I don't think you change that just to try and extend ones career. Favre and Elway played like Ben and had careers as long as Fouts and Marino who were pocket passers. We need to upgrade the O line in order to save Ben and get back to running the football first. Our number 1 D with a running game would be incredible.

lipps83
01-08-2012, 01:27 PM
someone mentioned Ben played like an A hole, and you agreed with his post. Thats why I said you guys. No biggie. Ben plays his best when he improvises, breaks tackles and scrambles. I don't think you change that just to try and extend ones career. Favre and Elway played like Ben and had careers as long as Fouts and Marino who were pocket passers. We need to upgrade the O line in order to save Ben and get back to running the football first. Our number 1 D with a running game would be incredible.

I see, no problem it's cool. I was actually agreeing with the injury part and that it might decrease his years in the league. I do think sometimes Ben unnecessarily extends plays, but that is how Ben plays and he isn't going to change which is why I think a change needs to be made at the coordinator level. Like I have said before, Arians is a doofus that has no business running an offense.

I will take the Elway comparison any day. Elway was a winner and so is Ben.

Arians is the only loser on this team. :chuckle:

cubanstogie
01-08-2012, 01:34 PM
I see, no problem it's cool. I was actually agreeing with the injury part and that it might decrease his years in the league. I do think sometimes Ben unnecessarily extends plays, but that is how Ben plays and he isn't going to change which is why I think a change needs to be made at the coordinator level. Like I have said before, Arians is a doofus that has no business running an offense.

I will take the Elway comparison any day. Elway was a winner and so is Ben.

Arians is the only loser on this team. :chuckle:

I always tended to blame the O line in the past few years. After watching other teams play offensively I get envious. The Bengals and Texans run screens much better than we do. And thats with rookie QB's. Is it our line or BA. I am finally wanting to see what another OC could do. I said give him another year after beating the Cards in SB but I no longer can stick up for the guy. Our offense is too limited with not being able to run a screen or hitting a RB in the flat.

SteelCurtainCall
01-08-2012, 06:05 PM
Well it's midway thru the second quarter now, and we've got much more of a problem than Ben so far. Recievers can't catch the ball, and the defense can't stop anything. And then there's Ben's problems. I've always supported Ben, but it sure makes you long for a Matthew Stafford type QB. You guys may take this as a post of unloyalty; but our 2011/12 team is being exposed for what they really are; " a team that's not as good as what we've come to expect". I hate it so far; it's heartbreaking, but Tebow is being made to look like Brady by our squad. I'm embarrassed. I hope it all turns out OK, but Brett is now out too, my oh my. I hate it.

zcoop
01-08-2012, 06:20 PM
Well it's midway thru the second quarter now, and we've got much more of a problem than Ben so far. Recievers can't catch the ball, and the defense can't stop anything. And then there's Ben's problems. I've always supported Ben, but it sure makes you long for a Matthew Stafford type QB. You guys may take this as a post of unloyalty; but our 2011/12 team is being exposed for what they really are; " a team that's not as good as what we've come to expect". I hate it so far; it's heartbreaking, but Tebow is being made to look like Brady by our squad. I'm embarrassed. I hope it all turns out OK, but Brett is now out too, my oh my. I hate it.

As long as we have a sitting duck at quarterback, we can't win. They know that he can't move and it's killing us. We can't continue to do the same things and expect different results.