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mesaSteeler
01-10-2012, 06:33 AM
Cook: Didn't count on Pouncey moving on so quickly
Tuesday, January 10, 2012
By Ron Cook, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

I long have maintained a lot of fans take losses harder than the players. The fans replay the game for months and never really get over it. The players realize it's a business, set it aside quickly and get on with their lives. The Steelers lost an AFC wild-card game Sunday to the Denver Broncos, 29-23, in overtime. It was a crushing defeat by any measure. But, by the weekend, many of the players will be vacationing at exotic locales. Others will drive home to their mansions in their luxury cars. And the fans? They still will be wondering what would have happened if wide receiver Mike Wallace hadn't dropped that 52-yard pass early in the second quarter or if center Doug Legursky hadn't snapped the ball over quarterback Ben Roethlisberger's head late in the first half or if cornerback Ike Taylor had just tackled wide receiver Demaryius Thomas in overtime.

I offer Steelers center Maurkice Pouncey as further proof of my theory.

"I'm rich play for the steelers and have a awesome life!" he tweeted soon after the game. "u wish u had my life!!"

A little context is in order:

Apparently, Pouncey, who did not play against the Broncos because of a high ankle sprain, forcing Legursky to take over the position, tweeted after the loss that his followers should purchase a rapper's music. Some fans were put off by his timing. Moments earlier, the season had ended painfully for his team -- their team -- in the Rocky Mountains. They also weren't happy that Pouncey missed another big game. The guy might be an All-Pro, but can you count on him? He sat out Super Bowl XLV in February with a similar high ankle sprain. The Steelers lost to the Green Bay Packers, 31-25.

At least one Pouncey follower -- someone named Rick -- took such offense that he responded and turned Pouncey into a Twitter fool, emphasis on the word fool.

"what do u do for a living besides bothering me right now ... " Pouncey tweeted.

"I will idiot!! you enjoy your lame life!!

"your a loser Rick! get a life I hate people like u! dont talk about my life dumb [expletive].

"unfollow me then loser!!

"I'm done talking to losers!"

I had to double-check that the malicious, offensive, vulgar words were coming from Pouncey. For a second, I thought I had tapped into Santonio Holmes' Twitter feed by mistake. You remember Holmes when he played for the Steelers? Urging a fan to kill himself because the fan had the nerve to criticize him for getting into yet another legal dust-up? Right before the Steelers traded him to the New York Jets, who now can't wait to get rid of him because he's also a cancer in their locker room?

Speaking of real losers.

By Monday morning, someone -- perhaps his agent or a Steelers official -- must have contacted Pouncey to tell him he came off like a jerk and how no player can win by taking on the fans. He tweeted the standard, if -- I'm guessing right -- insincere apology.

"I like to take the time to apologize for my action. it's just hard to end like that an I couldn't help my team fight.

"next year goal come back healthily an stronger. so I promise next year the year."

Steelers coach Mike Tomlin -- weary from little sleep after an early morning arrival home from Denver -- was asked Monday about this Pouncey nonsense at his season-ending news conference. He said he hadn't seen Pouncey since after the game. I'm guessing he will see him soon at the team's South Side headquarters, if he hasn't done so already. Wouldn't you just love to sit in on that meeting?

Tomlin has much to consider in what figures to be his most challenging offseason. Future Hall of Fame wide receiver Hines Ward seems certain to retire. So do defensive linemen Aaron Smith and Chris Hoke. Tomlin must decide if he wants to bring back older players such as linebacker James Farrior, nose tackle Casey Hampton and backup quarterback Charlie Batch, all of whom contributed significantly to Tomlin winning one Super Bowl and making it to another. Heck, he must decide if he wants to bring back offensive coordinator Bruce Arians and defensive coordinator Dick LeBeau, who Sunday night, for the first time, looked every bit of his 74 years after his defense allowed Broncos quarterback Tim Tebow to throw for 316 yards and two touchdowns and run for another 50 and a touchdown.

And Tomlin has to waste time on Pouncey's tweets?

I'll bet the coach loves that.

His players might be great football talents, but that doesn't mean they all are smart.

It's just a shame Pouncey didn't stop with one of his first tweets after the loss.

"season is over time 2 move on and get better!!"

In Pouncey's case, it's also time to grow up.

Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/12010/1202472-87-0.stm#ixzz1j3fLwydA

TRH
01-10-2012, 07:37 AM
WOW. Sounds like somebody else is coming down with a case of "arrogant-Wallaceism".

Pouncey just went down 2 notches in my book. Arrogance and c**kiness speaks volumes.
Why don't you get your a** off the couch and start playing, instead of being injured all of the time? His career has shown signs of greatness, but is built like Sepulveda, made of glass. Has the potential to have nothing but an injury plagued career.
This is the kind of nonsense that Tomlin needs to wield an IRON fist with. I'd like to see a "no more Twittering rule" about any reference to the team, players, or opposing players. Despicable, self-indulgent remarks.
"..done talking to losers". What an ironic remark.

SteeleReign
01-10-2012, 07:51 AM
WOW. Sounds like somebody else is coming down with a case of "arrogant-Wallaceism".

Pouncey just went down 2 notches in my book. Arrogance and c**kiness speaks volumes.
Why don't you get your a** off the couch and start playing, instead of being injured all of the time? His career has shown signs of greatness, but is built like Sepulveda, made of glass. Has the potential to have nothing but an injury plagued career.
This is the kind of nonsense that Tomlin needs to wield an IRON fist with. I'd like to see a "no more Twittering rule" about any reference to the team, players, or opposing players. Despicable, self-indulgent remarks.
"..done talking to losers". What an ironic remark.

I agree that Tomlin needs to make a statement here. This year, more than any other, is Tomlin's chance to make his mark. I hope Mike lights Pouncey up & sets the tone for 2012. No more BS. This past season began with a bunch of BS - Mendy, Hines, etc.

TRH
01-10-2012, 07:53 AM
yep. There should be no 'apologists' for Pouncey around here. Can you imagine if Ray Lewis said something like that? Anyone from Baltimore? Santonio Holmes? Hell, Randy Moss? There would be a public outcry, especially around here.

plenewken
01-10-2012, 07:58 AM
This demonstrates once again that our coaches do a very poor job at controlling our players' attitude on and off the field.
I hope the Rooney's emphasize once again what's expected from players wearing the Steelers jersey.

TRH
01-10-2012, 08:16 AM
This demonstrates once again that our coaches do a very poor job at controlling our players' attitude on and off the field.
I hope the Rooney's emphasize once again what's expected from players wearing the Steelers jersey.

great point.
I think that has been lost over the past 2 years. But they really need to drive that point home with a hammer. A REALLY BIG hammer.

MDSteel15
01-10-2012, 08:17 AM
Pro Bowler or not, bitch slap the punk!

plenewken
01-10-2012, 08:26 AM
great point.
I think that has been lost over the past 2 years. But they really need to drive that point home with a hammer. A REALLY BIG hammer.

Do you imagine Bylsma and Lemieux tolerating this kind of crap? I hope it's the same with Tomlin and the Rooneys. We'll see.

TRH
01-10-2012, 08:29 AM
Do you imagine Bylsma and Lemieux tolerating this kind of crap? I hope it's the same with Tomlin and the Rooneys. We'll see.

No, i can't.
Ego's are getting out of control around here all of a sudden, aren't they?

ColoradoSteelerFan
01-10-2012, 08:36 AM
The kid is young and immature. Unfortunately, it's a view into how many player's feel about the game they play. It's not about winning...it's about what it can do for them...their bank accounts, their popularity. We Cook said, we, the fans, take the game much more seriously than the player's do many times.

Pouncey needs to realize that is showing himself to be made of glass and that his team CANNOT count on him when they need him the most. THAT is the reputation you have created, Pouncey, in only two short years. THAT isn't going to continue to make you rich. THAT is going to find you being escorted out of Pittsburgh. Your next contract will be in St. Louis instead of Pittsburgh and you'll be playing for half what you make now.

Hope you are investing well...because with your body you'll be lucky to play in the NFL for 4 more years. If you are spending your $$$ like I think you are, you'll be broke and having to belly up to the counter at Micky D's to ask paying customers...you know those "losers" you referenced...to ask them if they want fries with that.

plenewken
01-10-2012, 08:38 AM
No, i can't.
Ego's are getting out of control around here all of a sudden, aren't they?

Yep. The worst is these punks don't show much pride of being Steelers on the field.

TRH
01-10-2012, 08:41 AM
The kid is young and immature. Unfortunately, it's a view into how many player's feel about the game they play. It's not about winning...it's about what it can do for them...their bank accounts, their popularity. We Cook said, we, the fans, take the game much more seriously than the player's do many times.

Pouncey needs to realize that is showing himself to be made of glass and that his team CANNOT count on him when they need him the most. THAT is the reputation you have created, Pouncey, in only two short years. THAT isn't going to continue to make you rich. THAT is going to find you being escorted out of Pittsburgh. Your next contract will be in St. Louis instead of Pittsburgh and you'll be playing for half what you make now.

Hope you are investing well...because with your body you'll be lucky to play in the NFL for 4 more years. If you are spending your $$$ like I think you are, you'll be broke and having to belly up to the counter at Micky D's to ask paying customers...you know those "losers" you referenced...to ask them if they want fries with that.


Problem with that is that Pouncey, if he was booted to somewhere like St. Louis, couldn't give 2 s**ts. He's "still getting paid". The arrogance of today's athlete.

ColoradoSteelerFan
01-10-2012, 08:49 AM
Problem with that is that Pouncey, if he was booted to somewhere like St. Louis, couldn't give 2 s**ts. He's "still getting paid". The arrogance of today's athlete.

My point is that if he's getting booted by the Steelers it will be because he's too fragile to be kept...not because of productivity while on the field. If he's getting booted by the Steelers, he will not be kept long by anyone else and his career will be over.

It does not appear we have a Mike Webster here...

TRH
01-10-2012, 08:57 AM
My point is that if he's getting booted by the Steelers it will be because he's too fragile to be kept...not because of productivity while on the field. If he's getting booted by the Steelers, he will not be kept long by anyone else and his career will be over.

It does not appear we have a Mike Webster here...


You're right, we don't. I'm sure the media around here that kisses his *** has something to do with his arrogant attitude.
I'm not sure how he made "all-pro" as when he DID play earlier this year he was getting manhandled on the line well more than average. I'm really furious with this kind of attitude and the blimp-sized head of Wallace...it has no place around here.

FanSince72
01-10-2012, 09:08 AM
Unfortunately, we (the NFL fans) are as much to blame for this as anyone else.

We all want to be instantly gratified by having whoever we feel is the latest "It" player out there on the field and we want them to be treated as the saviors we think they are. The teams along with the league are all too happy to cater to us (and those players) because it means that we're watching and that translates into mad bank for the sponsors as well as the NFL.

The downside of course is that this all tends to put these guys on pedestals when many of them don't yet deserve to be standing on a milk crate.

Old farts like me remember a day when a team acquired a player through the draft and even if that player was a so-called "skill player" like a QB or RB or WR, and even if they came into the league with a list of accomplishments as long as your right arm, they rode the pine for a couple of years and learned the ropes from the veteran players before they were given the opportunity to be a starter.

Today, a kid gets drafted and he's not only a starter, but if he has some college championship ring or is popular for whatever reason, he's handed endorsement deals as well as a hefty contract and signing bonus -- all before he's even put on an NFL uniform or set foot on an NFL field and most importantly before he's even demonstrated any ability to be a pro -- or to act like one.

Back in those days, the conversations we had revolved around how some new kid was "coming along" or when we thought he might be ready to start playing with any regularity and we just accepted that as part of the process of becoming a pro. In the real world that's called apprenticeship, where someone learns at the feet of a master not just a trade or a craft, but also how to treat their chosen field and the people who belong to it with respect and how to carry themselves as a professional.

But these days, a guy pays a fee for a license (or wins a few college football games) and they think that's all there is to being a pro and the idea of apprenticeship and learning from those who have been there before them and have paid their dues and learned from their mistakes is, to them (and too often to the people that hire them), an unnecessary waste of time.

That's not just a shame; it's quite often a big mistake.

TRH
01-10-2012, 09:13 AM
Unfortunately, we (the NFL fans) are as much to blame for this as anyone else.

We all want to be instantly gratified by having whoever we feel is the latest "It" player out there on the field and we want them to be treated as the saviors we think they are. The teams along with the league are all too happy to cater to us (and those players) because it means that we're watching and that translates into mad bank for the sponsors as well as the NFL.

The downside of course is that this all tends to put these guys on pedestals when many of them don't yet deserve to be standing on a milk crate.

Old farts like me remember a day when a team acquired a player through the draft and even if that player was a so-called "skill player" like a QB or RB or WR, and even if they came into the league with a list of accomplishments as long as your right arm, they rode the pine for a couple of years and learned the ropes from the veteran players before they were given the opportunity to be a starter.

Today, a kid gets drafted and he's not only a starter, but if he has some college championship ring or is popular for whatever reason, he's handed endorsement deals as well as a hefty contract and signing bonus -- all before he's even put on an NFL uniform or set foot on an NFL field and most importantly before he's even demonstrated any ability to be a pro -- or to act like one.

In those days, conversations revolved around how some new kid was "coming along" or when we thought he might be ready to start playing with any regularity and we just accepted that as part of the process of becoming a pro. In the real world that's called apprenticeship, where someone learns at the feet of a master not just a trade or a craft, but also how to treat their chosen field and the people who belong to it with respect and how to carry themselves as a professional.

But these days, a guy pays a fee for a license (or wins a few college football games) and they think that's all there is to being a pro and the idea of apprenticeship and learning from those who have been there before them and have paid their dues and learned from their mistakes is, to them (and too often to the people that hire them), an unnecessary waste of time.

That's not just a shame; it's quite often a big mistake.

well said.
It pains me to see guys like Pouncey (hell, any player, really) put on pedestals and to have a common belief that they are "better people, better human beings" than you or me, or anyone, when its clearly not true, not the case.
They walk into a restaurant or a room and its like the parting of the Red Sea. It automatically breeds "i'm holier than thou" attitudes, although its still good to see there are good guys still out there, such as Troy and some select others. It would be difficult to imagine him making that kind of statement to someone.

plenewken
01-10-2012, 09:29 AM
Unfortunately, we (the NFL fans) are as much to blame for this as anyone else.

You're right. That's why I'll never buy a jersey with a player's name on the back.

jtbsteeler
01-10-2012, 09:30 AM
The guy apologized, move on. Close the can of worms.

Curtain_of_Steel
01-10-2012, 09:31 AM
Got to love the internet. Had a dumb ass with an internet connection and this is what you get.

Could've been worse. Ike could've been tweeting that stuff, lol Instead it came from some who tapped out 2 playoffs in a row.

TRH
01-10-2012, 09:48 AM
The guy apologized, move on. Close the can of worms.

hahaha. Apology?? That only came out because the dumba** didn't realize the info would become public and he knew he was cold-busted. That was just sent out because his agent told him to. That was no "apology". Please.

QBGuru
01-10-2012, 09:55 AM
I wonder if the SB defending Packers have key players as disassociated from losses as Pouncey was after the Broncos game.

I don't know what Pouncey is like at practice, in the huddle, or on the sidelines during the games...but I'm unimpressed with Pouncey the leader.

jtbsteeler
01-10-2012, 09:59 AM
I wonder if the SB defending Packers have key players as disassociated from losses as Pouncey was after the Broncos game.

I don't know what Pouncey is like at practice, in the huddle, or on the sidelines during the games...but I'm unimpressed with Pouncey the leader.

Get real. The Packers have a who's who of players that sold drugs and slapped their wives. Their locker room isn't pristine. F them and who ever admires them.

DanRooney
01-10-2012, 10:00 AM
So much crying on this board.

jtbsteeler
01-10-2012, 10:00 AM
hahaha. Apology?? That only came out because the dumba** didn't realize the info would become public and he knew he was cold-busted. That was just sent out because his agent told him to. That was no "apology". Please.


It's a dead issue.

ElectricSteelers
01-10-2012, 10:43 AM
When asked by a reporter about a starting offensive lineman who was having chronic injuries he commented, " You can't make the club in the tub".

Fire Arians
01-10-2012, 10:45 AM
i know not too many people are going to support pouncey, but i say give him a chance. realize he's young and extremely disappointed. definitely the boss should have a talk with him, but i wouldn't say reprimand him yet.

at least he's not like TO and refuses to apologize for anything

jjpro11
01-10-2012, 11:24 AM
he needs to grow the **** up.. yeah, i am sure Dermontti Dawson would have acted like a spoiled asshole after missing the biggest games of his life two for straight seasons.

caplovestroyp43
01-10-2012, 12:22 PM
WOW. Sounds like somebody else is coming down with a case of "arrogant-Wallaceism".

Pouncey just went down 2 notches in my book. Arrogance and c**kiness speaks volumes.
Why don't you get your a** off the couch and start playing, instead of being injured all of the time? His career has shown signs of greatness, but is built like Sepulveda, made of glass. Has the potential to have nothing but an injury plagued career.
This is the kind of nonsense that Tomlin needs to wield an IRON fist with. I'd like to see a "no more Twittering rule" about any reference to the team, players, or opposing players. Despicable, self-indulgent remarks.
"..done talking to losers". What an ironic remark.

ICAM!!! Shame on him.

StainlessStill
01-10-2012, 12:37 PM
:shake01: I seriously had to shield my eyes on this one. And to think Pouncey was one of my favorite players on the team and proud we drafted such a talent. What an uber-embarrassment to the Rooney name these f*ckin PUNKS are! Sit these millionaire's down and tell them not to be so BUTT-HURT and take responsibility for the slit in between their legs. I don't see Ben taking games off in big games.

You know, I'm sick of these punk athletes on the social feed. They are being EXPOSED. Not happy to support this guy right now. Shame on Pouncey! Dolt. Not worthy to wear the Black and Gold if he wants to do this shit.

MDSteel15
01-10-2012, 12:39 PM
he needs to grow the **** up.. yeah, i am sure Dermontti Dawson would have acted like a spoiled asshole after missing the biggest games of his life two for straight seasons.

^^^^^ :thumbsup: