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tanda10506
01-10-2012, 05:16 PM
Say your the Raiders owner/GM. You finally get a legitimate QB, some realistic young talent at LB and WR. The new coach comes in and figures out why the run game is struggling then unleashes McFadden and Bush who carry and receive the ball well all year. The players love the coach and the coach believes in the players. Al Davis died so no longer do you have to worry about starting with a whole new team every year with a different ego inflated super star every year. You finally don't have a losing season, and if it wasn't for injuries all year, specifically to McFadden you probably make the wild card playoffs. You put together some impressive wins against teams that the previous year would blow you out 50-0. What's your first move.....

....Fire your new coach!!!

LMAO :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Honestly, and I don't care much for the Raiders or their fans (no offense), but I honestly feel bad for Raiders fans and the few legitimate players they have. Not one year has that organization allowed the team to stay together and actually build. Not one star have they tried to build around. The Raiders will just continue to only buy one star a year like Randy Moss, and when that one star doesn't bring them a championship with a new coach, new QB, and new defense, then he's gone the next year and it's on to the next star, with a new QB, new coach and new defense. You should see their new GM, I just watched the press conference for his introduction, he seems borderline "slow".

Thank you to Colbert and the Rooneys for never giving an opposing fan a reason to make a post like this on their forum about us, we are spoiled as Steeler fans, but the Raiders make the Browns fans look spoiled. :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

silver & black
01-10-2012, 06:10 PM
Say your the Raiders' new GM. Say you spent 18 years in a first class organization learning how to do things the right way. You know your new team hasn't posted a winning season in 9 years. What do you do?.... continue with the status quo, or blow it up and start fresh?

The Al davis era is over.... and I'm happy as hell about it.

MACH1
01-10-2012, 08:32 PM
The ghost of raiders future.

http://jokerreport.typepad.com/.a/6a00e393366a1a88340153922ff24b970b-500wi

:chuckle:

4xSBChamps
01-14-2012, 07:43 AM
The ghost of raiders future.

http://jokerreport.typepad.com/.a/6a00e393366a1a88340153922ff24b970b-500wi

:chuckle:

... just-wheeze...

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/Glensgages/TV%20shows/EdGrimley.jpg

... BABY!!!

tanda10506
01-14-2012, 07:20 PM
Say your the Raiders' new GM. Say you spent 18 years in a first class organization learning how to do things the right way. You know your new team hasn't posted a winning season in 9 years. What do you do?.... continue with the status quo, or blow it up and start fresh?

The Al davis era is over.... and I'm happy as hell about it.

To me it seems like an Al Davis style move, but your the Raiders fan, just seemed like a bad move when Jackson made some turn arounds for the team.

pete74
01-14-2012, 07:40 PM
I actually like the raiders and watched almost every game this year. I think they have a good team but gad some bad leadership for years. They needed a new coach and not because he was a bad coach but because he had to much power once Davis died and wouldn't be satisfied relinquishing it to the new GM.

The Palmer trade was the worst trade ever. How you can give up a 1st and a 2nd round pick for a mediocre QB is beyond me. They could of got Flynn or Orton alot cheaper. It was an insane move that will hurt them in the future

As for McFadden, he is an awesome back but unfortunately he is extremely injury prone and will never be a top back because of that. The only reason I wouldn't trade him this year is because you wouldn't get anything in return. I doubt anyone would want to give up a 2nd rounder for him but I would drop his ass if he got hurt again next season which im sure he will. He has never played more then 13 games

silver & black
01-14-2012, 10:14 PM
I actually like the raiders and watched almost every game this year. I think they have a good team but gad some bad leadership for years. They needed a new coach and not because he was a bad coach but because he had to much power once Davis died and wouldn't be satisfied relinquishing it to the new GM.

The Palmer trade was the worst trade ever. How you can give up a 1st and a 2nd round pick for a mediocre QB is beyond me. They could of got Flynn or Orton alot cheaper. It was an insane move that will hurt them in the future

As for McFadden, he is an awesome back but unfortunately he is extremely injury prone and will never be a top back because of that. The only reason I wouldn't trade him this year is because you wouldn't get anything in return. I doubt anyone would want to give up a 2nd rounder for him but I would drop his ass if he got hurt again next season which im sure he will. He has never played more then 13 games

You're right on the money with everything.

I hated the Palmer trade... still do. I would have rather lost with Boller and kept the picks, knowing there was going to be a GM in place for the next draft. McFadden is a special player, but he will be plagued with this foot problem for his whole career. I'd trade him in a heartbeat if we could find someone dumb enough to give a second rounder for him.

Hue Jackson is a snake/megalomaniac. The way he handled the loss to Denver was/is shameful. His act in Oakland should win an accademy award...lol. Reggie McKenzie is going to bring the Raiders back to prominance. It will take some time, given the circumstances created by Hue and the years of mismanagement by Al and his faction of yes men.

Mark Davis (despite the ridiculous haircut...lol), is nothing like his dad... thank God. I'm excited about the future of my team for the first time, in a very long time.

This is a good article about Hue Jackson. Pretty astute in my opinion.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/hue-jackson-hubris-not-racism-got-him-fired-by-oakland-raiders-011211

JCPsteelers
01-15-2012, 05:26 PM
Yeah it seems like the Raiders finally made the right move for a change by bringing in a GM. I live out in the Bay Area and I think Hue Jackson is a clown. Raiders are better off without that blowhard coaching them.

Fire Arians
01-15-2012, 05:27 PM
i hope the raiders are stupid enough to offer bruce arians a HC position

MACH1
01-15-2012, 05:30 PM
i hope the raiders are stupid enough to offer bruce arians a HC position

He'd be the perfect fit. :chuckle:

ColoradoSteelerFan
01-16-2012, 10:01 AM
I'm actually a pretty big Raiders fan. Living in Colorado and DESPISING everything about the Denver Broncos, my affinity for the Raiders simply grew out of all the Broncos fans hatred toward them.

I would love to see them pull it together, but even with new leadership they seem incapable. The wicked witch of the west (Al Davis) is dead and the peasants are free...and they still make the same stupid mistakes. Until the Raiders, as an organization, realize that you can't hire coaches who believe they only have one year to impress (thus turning the job itself off to most qualified applicants) and that only by creating some continuity will success ever return....they will continue to suck.

The Raiders defense sucked, their QB had only half the year to get acclimated and one of the leagues best RB was out most of the season. Fix those issues and winning starts. The sooner winning returns to Oakland the better...that means I get to watch Broncos fans whine and moan. Losers.

silver & black
01-17-2012, 06:01 PM
I'm actually a pretty big Raiders fan. Living in Colorado and DESPISING everything about the Denver Broncos, my affinity for the Raiders simply grew out of all the Broncos fans hatred toward them.

I would love to see them pull it together, but even with new leadership they seem incapable. The wicked witch of the west (Al Davis) is dead and the peasants are free...and they still make the same stupid mistakes. Until the Raiders, as an organization, realize that you can't hire coaches who believe they only have one year to impress (thus turning the job itself off to most qualified applicants) and that only by creating some continuity will success ever return....they will continue to suck.

The Raiders defense sucked, their QB had only half the year to get acclimated and one of the leagues best RB was out most of the season. Fix those issues and winning starts. The sooner winning returns to Oakland the better...that means I get to watch Broncos fans whine and moan. Losers.

Just curious. What mistakes are they still making, now that Al is dead?

Fire Arians
01-17-2012, 07:45 PM
Just curious. What mistakes are they still making, now that Al is dead?

giving 2 first round picks for carson palmer? that was possibly more stupid than picking jamarcus russell and giving him a huge contract

silver & black
01-17-2012, 07:58 PM
giving 2 first round picks for carson palmer? that was possibly more stupid than picking jamarcus russell and giving him a huge contract

Yes, but Al had just died and we had a coach (megaqlomaniac) that thought he was free to make any decision he wished... and basically, he did as he wished.

I think the Raiders organization shouldn't be judged on this past year when their owner passed on, their QB had a season ending injury, their most potent weapon was sidelined for 3/4 of the season and the starting roster was basically decimated throughout the season.

How about giving Reggie McKenzie and the Raiders an off season and then a full regular season before throwing out the same old rhetorical jargon about the organization. Trust me..... there is no way any opposing fan can/has said/say anything more damning than any die hard Raiders fan has alread said.

It's a new beginning for a once proud and elite franchise. I know you aren't Raiders fans, but I would think you would want this old war horse back in the league like they should be. After all....... there were no better games ever played in this league than there was between the Raiders and the Steelers.:wink02:

ricardisimo
01-17-2012, 08:32 PM
Tell me this (assuming that anyone is keeping track and can answer this): how long before something resembling normalcy returns to Oakland (or wherever your team is located if and when it happens)? :chuckle: How long before you guys have a draft pick in each round, for example? Or have your cap budget under control? Do you see that happening under Reggie McKenzie?

silver & black
01-17-2012, 08:48 PM
Tell me this (assuming that anyone is keeping track and can answer this): how long before something resembling normalcy returns to Oakland (or wherever your team is located if and when it happens)? :chuckle: How long before you guys have a draft pick in each round, for example? Or have your cap budget under control? Do you see that happening under Reggie McKenzie?

Well, obviously I can't guarantee it, but I will say that I think things are going to change under McKenzie and Mark Davis. McKenzie is the real deal and Mark is going to stay out of the football end of things. That alone bodes well for the Raiders.

I understand that it's fun.... and even warrented to make fun of the Raiders; I don't blame anyone and I don't get pissed over it... how could I?... most of us Raiders fans have done it ourselve's.

What's hard as an old dog Raiders fan (almost 44 years for me), is knowing what they used to be, and watching them become...... this. You guys haven't had to go through it, and I honestly hope you never do, but don't say never. You just don't know what lies in the future.

I don't know what is going to become of my Raiders. I just know that I'm happy for a new start. Time will tell what's in store for them. I can only support them as a fan and hope for the best.

tony hipchest
01-17-2012, 08:56 PM
i know several long time, die-hard raider fans like silver & black. i find it hard to trash them or their fandom, because they do have a very rich tradition and history. while they are old time rivals, and in the nature of my own fandom its is kinda fun to trash the team, it isnt the same as with the cowboys or patriots, or even 49ers and ravens. for some reason, i do find many of the die hard lifers as pretty respectable and knowledgable who feel the same about the steelers...

:noidea:

but i'll agree, they aint out of the shithole yet. did they fire rod woodson? i would like to see darren perry get a chance but its p[robably a longshot.

silver & black
01-17-2012, 09:52 PM
:drink:i know several long time, die-hard raider fans like silver & black. i find it hard to trash them or their fandom, because they do have a very rich tradition and history. while they are old time rivals, and in the nature of my own fandom its is kinda fun to trash the team, it isnt the same as with the cowboys or patriots, or even 49ers and ravens. for some reason, i do find many of the die hard lifers as pretty respectable and knowledgable who feel the same about the steelers...

:noidea:

but i'll agree, they aint out of the shithole yet. did they fire rod woodson? i would like to see darren perry get a chance but its p[robably a longshot.

Hey, Tony, nice to hear from you

You're right, I do feel the same way about the Steelers. Most of my friends, and even my own mother, are die hard Steelers fans. I can't imagine this league without either team anchoring it...... although, the Raiders have dropped the ball recently.

Let's hope things get righted in Raider land, and we can once again (Steelers/Raiders) show the NFL what it really means to be baddest kids on the block. :drink:

I like Perry, too... and I hope we rehire Woodson. :thumbsup:

ricardisimo
01-17-2012, 10:03 PM
The Steelers sucked very badly and for a very long time, although, granted, that hasn't been lately. Still, you're right... never say never and don't take the good times for granted.

What I find amazing about the Raiders is the steadfast loyalty of the fanbase here in LA, despite - let's face it - not-so-steadfast loyalty on the part of the Raiders themselves. It would be like finding Ravens fans in Cleveland, which I can't see happening. Not sure if it's a good thing about the fans or bad, but it is amazing all the same.

GMU Steeler
01-17-2012, 10:24 PM
I think hiring McKenzie was the right move and I can't begrudge him for firing Jackson. Interesting thing I found out about McKenzie is that apparently his twin brother is an assistant football coach at my old high school. I don't remember the Raiders glory years as I'm only 24 but I do have a small memory of rooting for them against the Bucs because I wanted the AFC to win. My then high school history teacher was a former Redskins tackle who hated the Raiders for the asswhomping the Raiders gave them in 83 in the SB. Anyhow, I'd like to see the Raiders be more relevant. And silver and black is right about not taking things for granted. Most of my life the Steelers have been a good team and I am thankful for that but things can change. I'd love to see the old rivalry renewed for younger generations. The Raiders are one of those teams and I'll say this about the Cowboys too are a franchise that it's just more interesting for the league when they play well.

silver & black
01-17-2012, 10:27 PM
The Steelers sucked very badly and for a very long time, although, granted, that hasn't been lately. Still, you're right... never say never and don't take the good times for granted.

What I find amazing about the Raiders is the steadfast loyalty of the fanbase here in LA, despite - let's face it - not-so-steadfast loyalty on the part of the Raiders themselves. It would be like finding Ravens fans in Cleveland, which I can't see happening. Not sure if it's a good thing about the fans or bad, but it is amazing all the same.

I can't comment on the LA fan thing, being as I'm a life long Ohio resident...lol. I do know there is a very strong LA fan contingent. We have LA vs. Oakland fan arguments all the time on my Raiders forums...lol.

tanda10506
01-23-2012, 04:11 AM
I guess I will disagree with everyone, I thought the Palmer trade was good. They probably gave up more then necessary but the Raiders are starting to fill up the skill positions with quality players. I think Palmer will have a great year in Oakland next year.