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PhantomJB93
01-11-2012, 04:49 PM
I think a lot of people are forgetting he's still on our team. He hasn't played in pretty much two years due to injury, do we try to trade him and make more cap room? Do we finally push him over to guard now that Gilbert is a serviceable RT? Do we move Gilbert to LT, keep Colon at RT and get rid of (the now injured) Starks (I wouldn't but Starks might not be ready to start next year)?

I was just thinking about our offensive line and totally forgot he's still here; we might be less inclined to take an offensive lineman in the first round if it is believed he can come back and be effective.

ShutDown24
01-11-2012, 05:08 PM
I have thought about this a lot this season. If Starks is healthy come autumn, I would move Willie Colon to right guard. That makes the right side of the line fairly formidable and fixes a lot of our offensive line issues without having to go outside the roster. I don't think it would be easy finding a trade partner for Colon at this point with his contract and health status.

Fire Arians
01-11-2012, 05:26 PM
i'd be a little iffy about colon right now, and wonder if he's going to be a candidate for restructuring his contract. He has been IR'ed early in the season for the last 2 seasons, so you can say he has been a big disappointment. When healthy he's shown that he's able though. However, it's a big question mark whether he can return and stay healthy.

Colon at RG sounds good, that's if we decide to keep max starks, and if he's ready to play next year.

Atlanta Dan
01-11-2012, 05:30 PM
My guess is Colon is penciled in to start at RT or RG in 2012

Until the Denver game, I assumed Starks was gone since he would receive a better long term deal elsewhere and that Gilbert would go to LT with Colon back at RT next year

Starks appparent ACL tear may hurt his marketability - that may help him stay with the Steelers but then again argues against wanting to bring Starks back

IMO Kemo, Starks and probably Essex will not be back - Steelers will draft another OL in the first or second round as a potential immediate starter as the OL youth movement continues - Ben is not getting any younger and he needs better protection (along with needing to adjust his game and not try to save every play)

BLACK_AND_YELLOW
01-11-2012, 05:43 PM
My guess is Colon is penciled in to start at RT or RG in 2012

Until the Denver game, I assumed Starks was gone since he would receive a better long term deal elsewhere and that Gilbert would go to LT with Colon back at RT next year

Starks appparent ACL tear may hurt his marketability - that may help him stay with the Steelers but then again argues against wanting to bring Starks back

IMO Kemo, Starks and probably Essex will not be back - Steelers will draft another OL in the first or second round as a potential immediate starter as the OL youth movement continues - Ben is not getting any younger and he needs better protection (along with needing to adjust his game and not try to save every play)

if Gilbert moves to LT im going to be tebowing every sunday for Big Ben but Essex looked pretty good when he was playing at center against the Rams so i say resign him to be the back up center and Kemo should be gone he is not worth what he is paid and Starks might not be 100% heathy when the season starts again but if he does he will prob be signed to a one year contract.

Curtain_of_Steel
01-11-2012, 06:06 PM
So you guys want the same cast and characters minus Kemo, add in Colon

Kemo is NOT the only problem on this line.

Starks is a huge quesiton mark, the good thing is, the question mark now comes at a huge discount due to the injury.

Kemo gone

Pouncey stays, hopefully he checks is fing keyboard at the door and learns to shut up unless he can play.

Foster?

We need to rid the line of the dead weight. Bens LG and LT needs to be replaced with a workable tandem. Put Colon on the right side with Gilbert.

MasterOfPuppets
01-11-2012, 06:46 PM
So you guys want the same cast and characters minus Kemo, add in Colon

Kemo is NOT the only problem on this line.

Starks is a huge quesiton mark, the good thing is, the question mark now comes at a huge discount due to the injury.

Kemo gone

Pouncey stays, hopefully he checks is fing keyboard at the door and learns to shut up unless he can play.

Foster?

We need to rid the line of the dead weight. Bens LG and LT needs to be ... replaced with a workable tandem. Put Colon on the right side with Gilbert.
oh hell no... we need 2 new guards. i didn't see anything from gilbert this season to make me think he's anything more than a serviceable right tackle. maybe he gets better maybe not. it's a big gamble . i'd try to draft a tackle that has guard experience. keep starks on speed dial, nobody is going to beat down his door over the summer.
if i'm tomlin i'd already tell colon be prepared to fight for an inside roster spot... assuming he recovers 100%.
cut scott , foster , essex.

PhantomJB93
01-11-2012, 07:04 PM
If I were in charge, I'd draft a Guard somewhere in the first 3 rounds (first round if they're the BPA but surely by the third round at the latest), and while Starks is out go with Gilbert-Foster-Pouncey-Rookie/Legursky-Colon. Once Starks recovers, I'd plug him in at LT, kick Colon to RG, and go with Starks-Foster/Rookie-Pouncey-Colon-Gilbert.

Hopefully the rookie guard works out, and I'd draft a LT in the first two rounds in 2013.

This is just IMO the best course of action assuming nothing is done in free agency.

StainlessStill
01-11-2012, 07:48 PM
IMHO, the whole left side of the line needs a complete overhaul. IMHO, Starks was well on his way back to our starting LT spot before his ACL injury. Now, he will be replaceable because of that injury and I believe we'll cut ties with him and free up that veteran-space we keep talking about. Kemoeatu will be GONE, maybe the most obvious with them all. The right side, I feel we are in good shape. I loved Ramon Foster's services this season and Gilbert shows he can play any position on the line (our new LT heading into 2012.) Willie Colon will come back at RT and Foster will man his RG spot, securing the right side of that line with Pouncey in the middle. Legursky will get a look in the offseason to be our starting LG but I believe we will draft hard for that position as well as bring somebody in VIA FREE AGENCY to compete.

Curtain_of_Steel
01-11-2012, 07:52 PM
Thats what I said.lol Pay to protects Bens Blind side. I think Colon will be ok on the right side, and didn't Gilbert play next to Pouncey in college? Might be a good spot for him to return. But we have to sign OLINE this year.

60_MINUTES
01-11-2012, 11:39 PM
IF Starks,,, and this is a big IF but if Starks is back next year and playing at a high level... then a line sure would look good like this starks, Rookie, pouncey colon gilbert with back ups Foster and Doug L this would be the best line weve had in at least 10 years... get that rookie either first or second round.. I actually would take the BPA between MLB, NT, and OL from the first round.. and then the second round if you didnt take OL then you have to take a guard no matter whos there... We would go from pure shit to pure greatness with

STARKS ROOKIE POUNCEY COLON GILBERT now if starks is not an option I say we need to go out and draft first round OT then it looks like one of our guards would have to be foster or doug again or FA thats all we can do

my biggest fear in all the world is the Steelers for some reason neglect the line again and we end up with

GILBERT DOUG Pouncey FOSTER COLON and maybe a rookie 3rd round pick or something.... if so we will get killed...You would think Front office would be smarter than that but thats pretty much what we did this past year... we went with what was on the roster and BEN was getting killed.. hell the colts almost beat us until they finally brought starks in... and wouldnt you know it just as all us fans already knew Starks ( one damn player ) ended up making all the difference in the world... If you go into the season with someone like John Scott protecting your back side you have mental problems... lets pray we finally address the line this year


by the way Gilbert is gonna be our next marvell Smith... the guy is gonna get stronger.... I hardly remember him giving up any sacks... he did great for a first year player... by year 3 our LT problem will be over

austinfrench76
01-12-2012, 12:11 AM
Starks -Legs- Pouncey- Colon-Gilbert sounds pretty good. If Starks is out flip Gilbert to LT and Colon to RT and Foster or rookie at RG. All nbetter than this year.

ricardisimo
01-12-2012, 12:57 AM
I'm tired of this flip-flop crap. Let's have our right guard play right guard, and our left tackle play left tackle. Flexibility is fine, but there's something to be said for specialization of labor, too.