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Need4Sweed
01-14-2012, 11:42 PM
I am sure Mr. Rooney was watching the game tonight and looked toward or called to coach Tomlin, Arians, and LeBeau and said "Waa, waa, what happened to us against these guys?" "Are you kidding me?". They look like a broke Nebraska team circa 1995 with Tommie Frazier under center...passing threat at minimum. But somehow Steve Young geared up in Denver, if only for one game.

pete74
01-15-2012, 04:53 AM
whats worse then there offense completly destroying Denver was there 31st ranked defense totally shutting Tebow down and making him look like a High School kid trying to play against NFL men. our coaches really need to wake up, DL's defensive game plan was horrible

Kanata-Steeler
01-15-2012, 08:09 AM
That one will definitely prolong Tomlin's agony into the off-season , as it should, so wake UP ! Mikey.

RGV_Steeler
01-15-2012, 09:31 AM
I am sure Mr. Rooney was watching the game tonight and looked toward or called to coach Tomlin, Arians, and LeBeau and said "Waa, waa, what happened to us against these guys?" "Are you kidding me?". They look like a broke Nebraska team circa 1995 with Tommie Frazier under center...passing threat at minimum. But somehow Steve Young geared up in Denver, if only for one game.

Nebraska wasn't broke in 1995. If by chance you are referring to 2009, 2010, 2011, I would agree (horrible offense with a bad QB).

Atlanta Dan
01-15-2012, 09:48 AM
Trib-Review's beat reporter for the Steelers certainly agrees

@ScottBrown_Trib Scott Brown
Total indictment of Steelers, coaches and players, given what is happening in Foxboro.

http://twitter.com/#!/ScottBrown_Trib/status/158398845418606593

If losing last week was not a wake-up call maybe last night''s confirmation as to how bad Denver was during the last month except for the Steelers game (blowout loss at home to New England/blowout loss on the road to Buffalo/loss at home to KC while scoring 3 points/blowout playoff loss at New England) will set off the alarm

plenewken
01-15-2012, 10:06 AM
I think the trouncing that Denver took last night was the best thing that could have happened to the Steelers.
Now, it's obvious to everyone that we SHOULDN'T have lost to the Broncos and it was a complete collective failure on both sides of the ball, starting at the top of the organization ie: coaching.
Lack of preparation, lack of motivation, poor offensive schemes, terrible defensive schemes, awful clock management ........
The injuries do not explain this loss.

Lots of work in the off-season for the Steelers but I'm not confident we will fill the gap with the offensive powerhouses in the NFL as long as we keep our incompetent OC.

plenewken
01-15-2012, 10:12 AM
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FrancoLambert
01-15-2012, 10:12 AM
:banging::doh:If last night's result doesn't underscore how "undercoached" we are, nothing will.
Tomlin is a motivator and a leader, two very important aspects to being a successful coach. But up to now that's about all I've seen. In game adjustments, huddling with players and coaching them (not just talking to them)....I'm sorry, just don't see it. The game as it stands now is not just about "imposing your will" on your opponents.....remember they have "wills" too. They wouldn't be in the NFL if they were "weak-willed."
It's about game planning, exploiting match-ups, and most importantly making in game adjustments which we never seem to do. "Oh, the third bubble screen to Hines didn't work....we didn't execute it that's all.....let's try it again."
Getting rid of BA would have been the first/best logical move......didn't happen......not surprised.

ItalianSteelersFan178443
01-15-2012, 10:16 AM
I completely agree that this loss is a slap in the face to us. But its great to see Tebow practically blaming his whole team for the loss even though he actually never said it. His body language was enough to say it. I watched some of the game and everytime TEBOW made a bad play he would yell at someone. He is a pathetic QB and really sucks that they beat us, because he played like crap against us except for the fact that since he is a QB he should be able to throw the ball long and thats what he did. A hurt Byron Leftwich could have made the same throws Tebow made against us.

I am just hoping T.J. Yates can pull off a "Miracle at the Bank!" he needs to cash in big time as many times as he can just hold that ball as long as he can. If he can utilize O. Daniels and the RB's in the short passing game, Baltimore and that doucher T-Suckles will be staying begging us to invite them to our Super Bowl Party

jjpro11
01-15-2012, 11:56 AM
even a blind squirrel can eventually find his nut... unfortunately for us, Tebow found his last Sunday.

Kanata-Steeler
01-15-2012, 12:48 PM
... and that's probably because we "aroused" him ?
but hey, don't "quote" me on that. :)

steelers33
01-15-2012, 01:03 PM
I really hope this loss does resonate throughout the Steelers organization. IMO, as painful as this is, this is one of the best things that could happen to this Steelers organization. With the injuries mounting it looked increasingly unlikely that we were making the Super Bowl, and maybe the loss in Denver would have saved us embarrassment in Foxsborough and we get a higher draft pick. Mediocority is no longer going to be acceptable, and this organization has to see that now.

JCPsteelers
01-15-2012, 03:23 PM
It was an embarrassing loss no ways to sugarcoat it. Seems like FO is more concerned about bringing back Hines Ward than fixing their pressing issues.

Fire Arians
01-15-2012, 03:26 PM
both hines and farrior need to realize they aren't fast enough to play this game anymore. hang it up, they had great careers and are both 2x champions, more than most others can say

TRH
01-15-2012, 03:50 PM
I really hope this loss does resonate throughout the Steelers organization. IMO, as painful as this is, this is one of the best things that could happen to this Steelers organization. With the injuries mounting it looked increasingly unlikely that we were making the Super Bowl, and maybe the loss in Denver would have saved us embarrassment in Foxsborough and we get a higher draft pick. Mediocority is no longer going to be acceptable, and this organization has to see that now.

you would think so, but who knows if they're going to really address the problems or if they are just going to "stay the course".
I'm expecting the best but won't be surprised if dumb decisions lay ahead.

FanSince72
01-15-2012, 08:27 PM
I really hope this loss does resonate throughout the Steelers organization. IMO, as painful as this is, this is one of the best things that could happen to this Steelers organization. With the injuries mounting it looked increasingly unlikely that we were making the Super Bowl, and maybe the loss in Denver would have saved us embarrassment in Foxsborough and we get a higher draft pick. Mediocority is no longer going to be acceptable, and this organization has to see that now.

Yeah but according to many here, we have the NUMBER ONE DEFENSE IN THE NFL so apparently there are no problems to address other than continuing the campaign to "Fire Arians" because allowing Denver and their 5th-rate QB to rack up a shitload of yards against us is somehow HIS fault.

Of course when I point out whose fault I REALLY think it is , all I get is "You're nuts" followed by a litany of meaningless statistics.

All I know is that after watching the games this weekend, our NUMBER ONE DEFENSE IN THE NFL leaves a lot to be desired.

But if we could just get rid of Arians... :noidea:

Fire Arians
01-15-2012, 08:31 PM
Yeah but according to many here, we have the NUMBER ONE DEFENSE IN THE NFL so apparently there are no problems to address other than continuing the campaign to "Fire Arians" because allowing Denver and their 5th-rate QB to rack up a shitload of yards against us is somehow HIS fault.

Of course when I point out whose fault I REALLY think it is , all I get is "You're nuts" followed by a litany of meaningless statistics.

All I know is that after watching the games this weekend, our NUMBER ONE DEFENSE IN THE NFL leaves a lot to be desired.

But if we could just get rid of Arians... :noidea:

getting rid of arians would be enough :thumbsup:

but seriously lebeau and the defense shit the bet big time. they were outdone by the #31 defense in the league, who has nobody talented enough to be a starter on the steelers defense, minus maybe vince wilfork. really disappointed at the level of underachievement with this year's squad. what was the difference between the pats domination of the broncos, and us letting that one slip? COACHING. we failed big time in denver.

TRH
01-15-2012, 08:38 PM
Yeah but according to many here, we have the NUMBER ONE DEFENSE IN THE NFL so apparently there are no problems to address other than continuing the campaign to "Fire Arians" because allowing Denver and their 5th-rate QB to rack up a shitload of yards against us is somehow HIS fault.

Of course when I point out whose fault I REALLY think it is , all I get is "You're nuts" followed by a litany of meaningless statistics.

All I know is that after watching the games this weekend, our NUMBER ONE DEFENSE IN THE NFL leaves a lot to be desired.

But if we could just get rid of Arians... :noidea:


Nope. You're right on and i'm right with you.

We had a paper defense that saw a whole bunch of pansy teams and a couple that had off-weeks, just by chance. And i knew it all along...i never bought into it.
A couple things that really annoyed him was LeBeau's sets were basically the same throughout (no surprises anymore), we don't look for INT's or don't attempt to strip footballs (that one's amazing...), and for the love of god, we can't even get to the QB's anymore. There's a lot more than that, but thats a couple that infuriate me. On defense, we're as predictable anymore as we are on offense.

tanda10506
01-16-2012, 05:25 PM
We had a paper defense that saw a whole bunch of pansy teams and a couple that had off-weeks, just by chance. And i knew it all along...i never bought into it.
A couple things that really annoyed him was LeBeau's sets were basically the same throughout (no surprises anymore), we don't look for INT's or don't attempt to strip footballs (that one's amazing...), and for the love of god, we can't even get to the QB's anymore. There's a lot more than that, but thats a couple that infuriate me. On defense, we're as predictable anymore as we are on offense.

This is true, we shut down New England well with a great game plan, but other then that, the decent offenses beat us. We did play a lot of "pansy" teams and even some of them made plays when it mattered most. The lack of pressure is unbelievable. I'm a big believer in LeBeau and this defense and I do think next season they will be back on track. I think the main thing missing from this defense was heart. Not a single time did I see them get fired up and play like they had to make a stop except against the Pats. That has a lot of affect, especially on the road. LeBeau needs to come up with some new blitzes this year and he needs to light a fire under the ass of the defense. If the defense is pumped up it will hold when it matters, we've seen it from this core group before. Remember the '08 defense, it can be done again, or at least close to it now that the rules favor the pass. A fire under the defense, a few new designs by LeBeau, and proper personnel moves in the offseason and it can look like '08 again. My worry is this team has became the team of second chances and "one more year" types, like Arians. Colbert and Tomlin draft well, but if we don't keep a good amount of our FA's then we will be taking a step back. The Patriots beat down of the Broncos should show the Steelers organization that the right changes have to be made now, not whenever a vet, or whenever a worthless coach, decides it's time.

bornaSteelersfan
01-16-2012, 09:48 PM
Yeah but according to many here, we have the NUMBER ONE DEFENSE IN THE NFL so apparently there are no problems to address other than continuing the campaign to "Fire Arians" because allowing Denver and their 5th-rate QB to rack up a shitload of yards against us is somehow HIS fault.

Of course when I point out whose fault I REALLY think it is , all I get is "You're nuts" followed by a litany of meaningless statistics.

All I know is that after watching the games this weekend, our NUMBER ONE DEFENSE IN THE NFL leaves a lot to be desired.

But if we could just get rid of Arians... :noidea:

I see you have your opinion and I have mine. Our defensive adjustments (or lack thereof) were poor in that game. However, when you have half of your best players injured or unable to play (Keisel, Woodley, Clark, Hampton, Allen, even Polamalu-calf and Harrison-toe werren't 100%), what are you supposed to do?! Saying that Denver racked up a "shitload" of yards against us is way off. We had almost the exact amount of yards as them throughout the entire game and 80 of theirs was in OT. If we get 10 yards more before the sacks at the end of the game and kick a field goal, this discussion never happens. That is on the offense.

ricardisimo
01-16-2012, 10:17 PM
You people and your "paper defense" arguments. Whatever. The Rats had almost exactly the same schedule as us, except San Diego (which they lost) instead of the Patriots (which we won). San Fran played NOBODY until this week. The Texans played nobody all year.

We were number one for a reason. Our defense lost us exactly one game in the regular season: the second Baltimore game. Ike Taylor and the offense lost us this last one. And as far as Tebow. As crappy as he was, is and will continue to be, those were actual beautiful throws he made against us. There's no way to fake that shit.

The offensive ineptitude and commitment to field goals instead of TDs doomed us, as did a commitment to "contain" Tebow rather than smack the Jesus out of him. The Patriots did it right, we didn't. Whatever. They're going to lose to the Rats this week, so who cares?

DanRooney
01-16-2012, 10:23 PM
wtf is enilation?

FanSince72
01-17-2012, 08:47 AM
wtf is enilation?

Phonetic, would be my guess. :noidea:

ebsteelers
01-17-2012, 10:22 AM
broncos blew their load against us... they were home and fired up... they accomplished a lot this year by just winnning that game..


our defense played poor yes... but ben was hurt and that didnt help our case but... what can you do.



and also to the op

that nebraska team was widely considered top 5 best college teams of all time