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IowaSteeler927
01-16-2012, 02:08 AM
I think we should just fire our entire coaching staff. It's obvious they are all riding on Bill Cowher's coattails. I know he's been gone since 2007 and they've drafted a lot of new players since then but it's still Cowher's team. Tomlin is the worst coach ever. He doesn't win every single game and won his only Super Bowl with Cowher's team. I think the Rooney's should fire him. Bruce Arians is a worthless turd with an innate obsession with WR Screens. He needs an Intervention and he also needs to be fired. Dick Lebeau is a Hall of Famer and we had the Top Ranked defense in the NFL but who cares. We lost to the Broncos so we should fire him as well.

We should also get rid of Ike Taylor. I mean seriously. He couldn't cover Demaryius Thomas by himself while Tebow had fifteen minutes to stand around and survey the field after each snap so it's obvious he just isn't very good. Never mind he had a fantastic season, one loss in a game where we were missing a significant amount of our starting players means he should be getting traded off to be another team's burden. We should also get rid of Hines Ward, and Casey Hampton because while Casey Hampton stops the run he isn't getting sacks every snap so he needs to go. As for Hines Ward he's just too old and because of his one bad season we should just cut him and toss him to the curb like a wet paper sack.

(Sarcasm)

On a more serious note I think all this finger pointing, and head hunting needs to stop. We lost the Super Bowl last year when some big injuries held us back. Not saying we would've surely won but our chances would've been better. As for this season it all went downhill after the Roethlisberger injury. Our biggest and most glaring problem is with our offensive line. We need an LT that can play lights out and it would help if we could upgrade at LG as well. Ben's style of play leads to him getting hit more often than not but the offensive line was to blame for a lot of our woes this season. We couldn't run the ball effectively enough this season and I think that hurt us later in the season. I don't believe in being a pass only team. You have to have a somewhat effective running game and while we've shown signs at times this season it was never anything that had opposing defenses shaking in their boots.

The only coaching staff change I would make at this point would be Bruce Arians. While my above rant was mostly sarcasm the comments about Bruce Arians were true. Arians seems to have an unhealthy fascination with being incredibly predictable on offense. He calls WR screens every other play and doesn't do nearly enough in the way of adjustments to get the offense moving when things aren't going our way. I think he should've been gone before this season and the fact that they are keeping him around for the next season apparently is mind boggling to say the least.

I think Tomlin's a good coach. He's young and he's shown growing pains in some areas but hardly deserves to be fired. He's won a Super Bowl for this team and taken us to another that we had a chance to win in the end and bumbled it. I think we should stick with him. Continuity is more important than people might think and a 12-4 season and a playoff loss that was likely due in most part to the laughable amount of injuries is hardly reason to send Tomlin packing.

Dick Lebeau is a Hall of Famer. End of story. He should coach as long as he wants to stay. We had a top ranked defense despite Harrison and Woodley being injured at ludicrously inopportune times. This defense would've been much scarier and we would've likely thrashed the Broncos if it weren't for players being knocked completely out of the game or having to play with injuries. Everyone acts as if Woodley's injury was no big deal but it was a hamstring. That kind of injury is not easy to overcome. The only thing I would question about the defense and Lebeau from the Broncos game is why didn't they give Ike Taylor some help?

Anywho I think this headhunting and finger pointing needs to stop. Support your team through thick and thin. We can't win the big one every year. There's 31 other teams that want to win it as well.

SoCalFan
01-16-2012, 02:19 AM
I stopped after the first sentence! Wish I could climb through the monitor and choke you out! FAIL!!! Ha,ha... This team will be pretty dam good next year, in spite of the horrid coaching staff, rite!

Sixburgher
01-16-2012, 02:21 AM
I stopped after the first sentence! Wish I could climb through the monitor and choke you out! FAIL!!! Ha,ha... This team will be pretty dam good next year, in spite of the horrid coaching staff, rite!

You need to read to at least paragraph 3. LOL

SoCalFan
01-16-2012, 02:30 AM
You need to read my second sentence, I was honoring his sarcasm with my own as I agree!!!

PhantomJB93
01-16-2012, 03:49 AM
You don't need to read to paragraph three, the "Tomlin is the worst coach ever because he doesn't win every single game" should be enough to tip you off lol.

And I agree, the coaching criticism is out of control and ridiculous. With Arians it's sort of justified but I even thought he didn't have that bad of a season by his standards (although I do think he's awful and needs to go, but he won't, I'm just saying he's had worse seasons than he did this year), Tomlin and Lebeau are fine, they did underprepare for Tebow but based on three recent weeks of awful game film, nobody could have prepared for how he played (he played a totally different game against us than the Patriots, people may say we were bad but Tebow's throws were "elite QB" esque in the wild card round). Outside of that game and the first Ravens game I really don't think they were "outcoached" once all year.

Also, I know this isn't what he's been criticized for recently but I'd like to throw in that I love how some people always try to say Tomlin is just taking a free ride on what Cowher left for him. I mean, yeah some major cornerstones like Roethlisberger, Polamalu, etc. are there. But basically our whole receiving corps (the best one we've had in years), LB corps minus Farrior (Harrison was here but was never seen as anything more than a ST player during the Cowher years), and of course a few other guys like Pouncey and our young DE's, I'd say that's pretty darn good for building your own team.

IowaSteeler927
01-16-2012, 04:26 AM
You don't need to read to paragraph three, the "Tomlin is the worst coach ever because he doesn't win every single game" should be enough to tip you off lol.

And I agree, the coaching criticism is out of control and ridiculous. With Arians it's sort of justified but I even thought he didn't have that bad of a season by his standards (although I do think he's awful and needs to go, but he won't, I'm just saying he's had worse seasons than he did this year), Tomlin and Lebeau are fine, they did underprepare for Tebow but based on three recent weeks of awful game film, nobody could have prepared for how he played (he played a totally different game against us than the Patriots, people may say we were bad but Tebow's throws were "elite QB" esque in the wild card round). Outside of that game and the first Ravens game I really don't think they were "outcoached" once all year.

Also, I know this isn't what he's been criticized for recently but I'd like to throw in that I love how some people always try to say Tomlin is just taking a free ride on what Cowher left for him. I mean, yeah some major cornerstones like Roethlisberger, Polamalu, etc. are there. But basically our whole receiving corps (the best one we've had in years), LB corps minus Farrior (Harrison was here but was never seen as anything more than a ST player during the Cowher years), and of course a few other guys like Pouncey and our young DE's, I'd say that's pretty darn good for building your own team.

I couldn't possibly agree with you more. I absolutely hate the "Cowher's coattails" accusations. He's been gone since 2007 this isn't his team anymore. Tomlin has been an excellent coach for us so far and I think continuity at the head coaching position is important. We had a ton of untimely injuries this season that really screwed us over. Woodley was at something like 9-10 sacks in Week 8 when he was injured. I don't think it's unreasonable to assume he could've had something like 16+ sacks had he not injured his hamstring. That really hurt us. Worilds is no Woodley. He's consistent but he's not the pass rushing force that Woodley is. Then you factor in the broken orbital bone and toe injury to Harrison and that held him back as well. Our linebacker corps was constantly shuffling around. Both Harrison and Woodley played hurt against the Broncos and were totally ineffective because of it.

The most obvious reason for our offensive woes though was Ben's injury against the Brownies. That set him back and our whole offense back. Perhaps the most questionable decision the coaching staff made was to play Ben against the Browns in the last game of the regular season. He simply should of sat out that game. He could've let that injury heal that much more and instead they let him play.

Then you have to think about the injuries to Keisel and Hampton. Hampton is a force in the middle of the d-line. He clogs the middle running lanes. He's not as dominant as he used to be but he's good against the run and we really missed him on Tebow's 10yd TD run up the middle. As for Keisel he was having a career year and if it wasn't for a couple of non-calls on some pretty ridiculous holds he might of had a sack on the drive where Tebow threw the 50yd completion and subsequently the 30yd TD. Not having Keisel the rest of the game really hurt more than people seem to think. He's disruptive and was the only D-Line player I noticed that was getting penetration early on.

I hate the fact that people are hating on Ike Taylor. This game wasn't his fault in the least. He had no help and was put on an island with a guy that really flew under the radar because of an Achilles injury in his rookie season. Thomas is no pushover and has great size, talent, speed, and ability. He's comparable to Calvin Johnson and he's only starting to blossom. Our D-Line and LBs weren't getting any pressure nor were they containing Tebow within the pocket. That was the recipe for disaster. It is unrealistic at best to expect Taylor to cover a guy like Thomas for the periods of time Tebow was being afforded to survey the field and throw the ball. Oh and on the game winning play Mundy was completely out of position and in my opinion was more at fault for Thomas breaking open than Ike was.

FanSince72
01-16-2012, 09:54 AM
I think we should just fire our entire coaching staff. It's obvious they are all riding on Bill Cowher's coattails. I know he's been gone since 2007 and they've drafted a lot of new players since then but it's still Cowher's team. Tomlin is the worst coach ever. He doesn't win every single game and won his only Super Bowl with Cowher's team. I think the Rooney's should fire him. Bruce Arians is a worthless turd with an innate obsession with WR Screens. He needs an Intervention and he also needs to be fired. Dick Lebeau is a Hall of Famer and we had the Top Ranked defense in the NFL but who cares. We lost to the Broncos so we should fire him as well.

We should also get rid of Ike Taylor. I mean seriously. He couldn't cover Demaryius Thomas by himself while Tebow had fifteen minutes to stand around and survey the field after each snap so it's obvious he just isn't very good. Never mind he had a fantastic season, one loss in a game where we were missing a significant amount of our starting players means he should be getting traded off to be another team's burden. We should also get rid of Hines Ward, and Casey Hampton because while Casey Hampton stops the run he isn't getting sacks every snap so he needs to go. As for Hines Ward he's just too old and because of his one bad season we should just cut him and toss him to the curb like a wet paper sack.

(Sarcasm)

On a more serious note I think all this finger pointing, and head hunting needs to stop. We lost the Super Bowl last year when some big injuries held us back. Not saying we would've surely won but our chances would've been better. As for this season it all went downhill after the Roethlisberger injury. Our biggest and most glaring problem is with our offensive line. We need an LT that can play lights out and it would help if we could upgrade at LG as well. Ben's style of play leads to him getting hit more often than not but the offensive line was to blame for a lot of our woes this season. We couldn't run the ball effectively enough this season and I think that hurt us later in the season. I don't believe in being a pass only team. You have to have a somewhat effective running game and while we've shown signs at times this season it was never anything that had opposing defenses shaking in their boots.

The only coaching staff change I would make at this point would be Bruce Arians. While my above rant was mostly sarcasm the comments about Bruce Arians were true. Arians seems to have an unhealthy fascination with being incredibly predictable on offense. He calls WR screens every other play and doesn't do nearly enough in the way of adjustments to get the offense moving when things aren't going our way. I think he should've been gone before this season and the fact that they are keeping him around for the next season apparently is mind boggling to say the least.

I think Tomlin's a good coach. He's young and he's shown growing pains in some areas but hardly deserves to be fired. He's won a Super Bowl for this team and taken us to another that we had a chance to win in the end and bumbled it. I think we should stick with him. Continuity is more important than people might think and a 12-4 season and a playoff loss that was likely due in most part to the laughable amount of injuries is hardly reason to send Tomlin packing.

Dick Lebeau is a Hall of Famer. End of story. He should coach as long as he wants to stay. We had a top ranked defense despite Harrison and Woodley being injured at ludicrously inopportune times. This defense would've been much scarier and we would've likely thrashed the Broncos if it weren't for players being knocked completely out of the game or having to play with injuries. Everyone acts as if Woodley's injury was no big deal but it was a hamstring. That kind of injury is not easy to overcome. The only thing I would question about the defense and Lebeau from the Broncos game is why didn't they give Ike Taylor some help?

Anywho I think this headhunting and finger pointing needs to stop. Support your team through thick and thin. We can't win the big one every year. There's 31 other teams that want to win it as well.

What color is the sky in your world? :noidea:

This weekend (with the exception of Denver), I saw teams that were dynamic, plays that were well executed, defenses that were complex and adaptable and coaching that was in the moment.

Compared to those teams, we looked like mannequins dressed in football jerseys,

Face it, we've become stale and predictable.
It seems as if a set of offensive and defensive plays were written a few years ago of which several hundred copies were made and each season they're simply handed out to the players like some employee handbook.

We're mailing it in.

Maybe it's a good thing that we got beat by Denver because what New England did to them on Saturday should serve as a cold slap in the face to LeBeau to maybe get him out of his comfort zone and start thinking about designing a defense for today instead of repeating the one he created a decade ago.

As for Arians, I know everyone hates him, but in fairness to him, I'd like to see what could have been done if we had an O-line that didn't have to introduce themselves to each other every week. I say that because during the season, there actually WAS a two or three week span where we had the same guys on the line and we actually DID develop some consistency until injuries once again threw everything into a tailspin.

But all of this begins with Tomlin.
He needs to stop philosophizing and start taking a serious inventory of what we have and don't have and then take appropriate action. I understand that everything is a situation and that from time to time even the best plans don't work, but this is becoming too much like, "lather, rinse, repeat" and it's only going to get worse if he keeps insisting that injuries are the only major factor.

The blame enough for everyone and no one should be immune from it.

SoCalFan
01-16-2012, 10:42 AM
Said it before, my blame goes to the fitness trainers/med staff for not helping the team stay healthy! Someone on the inside is not doing a great job keeping these players from injuries! Why the hell does it seem we are always limping into the playoffs far worse than any other team. We play the same amount of games! The coaches can only do so much once the whistle blows!

stb_steeler
01-16-2012, 11:03 AM
Said it before, my blame goes to the fitness trainers/med staff for not helping the team stay healthy! Someone on the inside is not doing a great job keeping these players from injuries! Why the hell does it seem we are always limping into the playoffs far worse than any other team. We play the same amount of games! The coaches can only do so much once the whistle blows!

I agree, it seems the injury bug list is huge at the end of every season. I can remember a time when the Steelers were getting healthy at that time. Now it seems opposite.

BKAnthem
01-16-2012, 11:15 AM
What color is the sky in your world? :noidea:

This weekend (with the exception of Denver), I saw teams that were dynamic, plays that were well executed, defenses that were complex and adaptable and coaching that was in the moment.

Compared to those teams, we looked like mannequins dressed in football jerseys,

Face it, we've become stale and predictable.
It seems as if a set of offensive and defensive plays were written a few years ago of which several hundred copies were made and each season they're simply handed out to the players like some employee handbook.

We're mailing it in.

Maybe it's a good thing that we got beat by Denver because what New England did to them on Saturday should serve as a cold slap in the face to LeBeau to maybe get him out of his comfort zone and start thinking about designing a defense for today instead of repeating the one he created a decade ago.

As for Arians, I know everyone hates him, but in fairness to him, I'd like to see what could have been done if we had an O-line that didn't have to introduce themselves to each other every week. I say that because during the season, there actually WAS a two or three week span where we had the same guys on the line and we actually DID develop some consistency until injuries once again threw everything into a tailspin.

But all of this begins with Tomlin.
He needs to stop philosophizing and start taking a serious inventory of what we have and don't have and then take appropriate action. I understand that everything is a situation and that from time to time even the best plans don't work, but this is becoming too much like, "lather, rinse, repeat" and it's only going to get worse if he keeps insisting that injuries are the only major factor.

The blame enough for everyone and no one should be immune from it.

THIS :thumbsup:

SoCalFan
01-16-2012, 11:16 AM
Look at the 4 teams left! They are all playing fast and look somewhat healthy with a few exceptions! What are they doing conditioning wise that we are or are not doing? WTF???

TRH
01-16-2012, 11:44 AM
Look at the 4 teams left! They are all playing fast and look somewhat healthy with a few exceptions! What are they doing conditioning wise that we are or are not doing? WTF???

I've just been thinking of this too.
Everone's throwing blame to Tomlin, Arians, LeBeau (who all deserve every bit of it), but wonder whats going on with strength, conditioning, and injury healing and prevention. Are those guys or girls doing their jobs to 100%?? Seems are guys all of a sudden, are made of glass. It's possible we need improvements in those areas.

IowaSteeler927
01-17-2012, 03:07 AM
What color is the sky in your world? :noidea:

This weekend (with the exception of Denver), I saw teams that were dynamic, plays that were well executed, defenses that were complex and adaptable and coaching that was in the moment.

Compared to those teams, we looked like mannequins dressed in football jerseys,

Face it, we've become stale and predictable.
It seems as if a set of offensive and defensive plays were written a few years ago of which several hundred copies were made and each season they're simply handed out to the players like some employee handbook.

We're mailing it in.

Maybe it's a good thing that we got beat by Denver because what New England did to them on Saturday should serve as a cold slap in the face to LeBeau to maybe get him out of his comfort zone and start thinking about designing a defense for today instead of repeating the one he created a decade ago.

As for Arians, I know everyone hates him, but in fairness to him, I'd like to see what could have been done if we had an O-line that didn't have to introduce themselves to each other every week. I say that because during the season, there actually WAS a two or three week span where we had the same guys on the line and we actually DID develop some consistency until injuries once again threw everything into a tailspin.

But all of this begins with Tomlin.
He needs to stop philosophizing and start taking a serious inventory of what we have and don't have and then take appropriate action. I understand that everything is a situation and that from time to time even the best plans don't work, but this is becoming too much like, "lather, rinse, repeat" and it's only going to get worse if he keeps insisting that injuries are the only major factor.

The blame enough for everyone and no one should be immune from it.

Lather, rinse, repeat? LoL we went to a Super Bowl last year and barely lost, and this year we went 12-4 and lost to the Broncos because we simply weren't healthy enough as a team on both sides of the ball. I think the color of the sky in my world is a nice normal shade of blue. :applaudit:

DanRooney
01-17-2012, 04:38 AM
Lather, rinse, repeat? LoL we went to a Super Bowl last year and barely lost, and this year we went 12-4 and lost to the Broncos because we simply weren't healthy enough as a team on both sides of the ball. I think the color of the sky in my world is a nice normal shade of blue. :applaudit:

Us losing to them had little to do with injury and more to do with a terrible gameplan.

IowaSteeler927
01-17-2012, 08:14 AM
Us losing to them had little to do with injury and more to do with a terrible gameplan.

Could the gameplan of been better? Yes. Regardless of the gameplan though when your two best pass rushing threats on the edges can't get to the QB because they're hobbled that hurts more than the gameplan ever did. We were in the game up and until the end. We had our shots to win the game.

I think it's ridiculous to lay it all on the coaches and the gameplan when it was blatantly obvious that the players weren't doing their part. Tebow had all day to stand around in the pocket. Even when we blitzed we still weren't getting to the guy and with Keisel and Hampton out of the mix early it was a disaster waiting to happen. Injuries, especially to key starters, make a world of difference. That was more than evidenced in the San Francisco game. Look at the Giants. They start getting guys back from injuries and all of a sudden they're knocking the Packers off in convincing fashion at Lambeau Field. So in my opinion, the injuries hurt us more than anything else did.

FanSince72
01-17-2012, 09:20 AM
Lather, rinse, repeat? LoL we went to a Super Bowl last year and barely lost, and this year we went 12-4 and lost to the Broncos because we simply weren't healthy enough as a team on both sides of the ball. I think the color of the sky in my world is a nice normal shade of blue. :applaudit:

Hey, you're entitled to believe what you want to believe, as am I.

But can you watch the teams that are in the playoffs now (as well as Green Bay, New Orleans and even Houston) and honestly "see" us in any of those teams?

I can't.

After watching two weeks of playoff football, I came away thinking, "Man, do we have a ton of work to do or what?"
It was like seeing all the innovation and technology at an exotic car show and then driving home in my Altima.

Buzz-kill.

I'm not saying that we're miles away from any of that, but with the way the talent that we now have is being utilized, we might as well be -- and that falls squarely on the shoulders of the coaches.

Sixburgher
01-17-2012, 09:33 AM
What color is the sky in your world? :noidea:

This weekend (with the exception of Denver), I saw teams that were dynamic, plays that were well executed, defenses that were complex and adaptable and coaching that was in the moment.

Compared to those teams, we looked like mannequins dressed in football jerseys,


You mean like the Packers? They arguably laid an even bigger egg than we did. The OP is right. A lot of people need to take a deep breath and get a grip already.

FanSince72
01-17-2012, 09:44 AM
You mean like the Packers? They arguably laid an even bigger egg than we did. The OP is right. A lot of people need to take a deep breath and get a grip already.

The only reason that I left the Packers in was because of their record prior to that game, which was impressive to say the least. Everyone lays an egg now and then, but if you look at the body of work created by the Packers since last year's playoffs, can you honestly say that we're in the same league?

I don't need a "deep breath".
I'm talking about things I've seen happening for the last couple of seasons and about watching the overall productivity of our team slowly diminish over that time. This isn't about the injuries and all that. This is about the way we play overall and the fact that we have been slowly declining and becoming more and more ordinary as time goes by and that we aren't using the talent we have in ways that even come close to its potential.

Sixburgher
01-17-2012, 09:56 AM
The only reason that I left the Packers in was because of their record prior to that game, which was impressive to say the least. Everyone lays an egg now and then, but if you look at the body of work created by the Packers since last year's playoffs, can you honestly say that we're in the same league?

I don't need a "deep breath".
I'm talking about things I've seen happening for the last couple of seasons and about watching the overall productivity of our team slowly diminish over that time. This isn't about the injuries and all that. This is about the way we play overall and the fact that we have been slowly declining and becoming more and more ordinary as time goes by and that we aren't using the talent we have in ways that even come close to its potential.

Yeah, that's going to make a ton of difference this coming weekend when the Packers and Steelers will both be watching from the same place now won't it? Evidently we are closer to being in the "same league" than you think since they went one and done as well. I guess getting bounced out of the playoffs at home in embarrassing fashion doesn't matter as long as a team scores a lot of (now) empty points.

FanSince72
01-17-2012, 10:08 AM
Yeah, that's going to make a ton of difference this coming weekend when the Packers and Steelers will both be watching from the same place now won't it? Evidently we are closer to being in the "same league" than you think since they went one and done as well. I guess getting bounced out of the playoffs at home in embarrassing fashion doesn't matter as long as a team scores a lot of (now) empty points.


Believe what you want to believe.

3rdandlong
01-17-2012, 11:34 AM
They definitely should get rid of Arians. I wouldnt miss Tomlin either. He seems to be out coached too much for my liking

Sixburgher
01-17-2012, 12:24 PM
Believe what you want to believe.

Well, if you think the Packers sporting the 31st ranked defense in the league makes them "heads and tails" better than us, suit yourself. Fact remains they're going to be watching the conference championship games from their couches, just like the Steelers.

FanSince72
01-17-2012, 01:33 PM
Well, if you think the Packers sporting the 31st ranked defense in the league makes them "heads and tails" better than us, suit yourself. Fact remains they're going to be watching the conference championship games from their couches, just like the Steelers.


OK, have it your way.

The Steelers are great.
We can play with any team.
Our coaching staff is perfect.
Our play-calling is perfect.
I wouldn't change a thing.




Happy now?

BKAnthem
01-17-2012, 01:54 PM
Could the gameplan of been better? Yes. Regardless of the gameplan though when your two best pass rushing threats on the edges can't get to the QB because they're hobbled that hurts more than the gameplan ever did. We were in the game up and until the end. We had our shots to win the game.

I think it's ridiculous to lay it all on the coaches and the gameplan when it was blatantly obvious that the players weren't doing their part. Tebow had all day to stand around in the pocket. Even when we blitzed we still weren't getting to the guy and with Keisel and Hampton out of the mix early it was a disaster waiting to happen. Injuries, especially to key starters, make a world of difference. That was more than evidenced in the San Francisco game. Look at the Giants. They start getting guys back from injuries and all of a sudden they're knocking the Packers off in convincing fashion at Lambeau Field. So in my opinion, the injuries hurt us more than anything else did.

So what was the point of drafting all those LB's and 2 DL in the first round If they can't contribute and make a play?

IowaSteeler927
01-17-2012, 06:22 PM
So what was the point of drafting all those LB's and 2 DL in the first round If they can't contribute and make a play?

Drafting is like gambling in my book. You might have a guy who looks like a stud (Vernon Gholston for example) who completely flops. You might have a guy you pick in the 6th Round who turns out to be a perennial pro-bowler. Or you might have the in between types that are solid contributors but never make it to the level of greatness. Draft picks aren't always going to pan out no matter how solid they look from the get go. I agree the guys we've picked need to step it up as evidenced by the Broncos game. If they want to remain Steelers they need to elevate their level of play because they got flat out manhandled in that game.

Fire Arians
01-17-2012, 07:43 PM
OK, have it your way.

The Steelers are great.
We can play with any team.
Our coaching staff is perfect.
Our play-calling is perfect.
I wouldn't change a thing.




Happy now?

also..

arians was petyon manning's qb coach, so that automatically makes him the greatest OC ever.

ricardisimo
01-17-2012, 08:15 PM
Look at the 4 teams left! They are all playing fast and look somewhat healthy with a few exceptions! What are they doing conditioning wise that we are or are not doing? WTF???
The Giants, Ravens and 49ers are playing fast? Where do you people come from that the grass is always greener on other teams' fields. And although the Ravens and 49ers are indeed relatively healthy, the other two have taken their hits all season (a good sign, by the way, of how next week is going to play out, in my humble opinion.)

defence
01-17-2012, 09:09 PM
OK, have it your way.

The Steelers are great.
We can play with any team.
Our coaching staff is perfect.
Our play-calling is perfect.
I wouldn't change a thing.




Happy now?

Hey fan!! U are sooo bang on with all of your posts!!! Sometimes for fans; they refuse to admit that there beloved team is really not up to par with the other elite teams!! I have seen the same thing happening for a while. Back to that disaster season where we fell apart against bad teams!! What has changed since then?? Nothing!! We barely lost in the superbowl last year!! Well we lost!! That means you were not good enough to win last year; what makes u think u can win it a year later without once again not improving your team!!! I believe(my opinion) tomlin should have fired both coordinators!! Lebau's system is old and tired!! Now did u guys see the texans d!! Wow!! Ariens for the life of me i cannot understand ; speechless!!! Start there and then there is free agency!! I believe this team will have to get some useful help there in order to stay a playoff team!! Lastly; they need to draft a little better in the later rounds to add depth to this team!! The team is not a right off; but you guys are kidding yourselves if you think no change is needed!!

IowaSteeler927
01-18-2012, 04:37 AM
Hey fan!! U are sooo bang on with all of your posts!!! Sometimes for fans; they refuse to admit that there beloved team is really not up to par with the other elite teams!! I have seen the same thing happening for a while. Back to that disaster season where we fell apart against bad teams!! What has changed since then?? Nothing!! We barely lost in the superbowl last year!! Well we lost!! That means you were not good enough to win last year; what makes u think u can win it a year later without once again not improving your team!!! I believe(my opinion) tomlin should have fired both coordinators!! Lebau's system is old and tired!! Now did u guys see the texans d!! Wow!! Ariens for the life of me i cannot understand ; speechless!!! Start there and then there is free agency!! I believe this team will have to get some useful help there in order to stay a playoff team!! Lastly; they need to draft a little better in the later rounds to add depth to this team!! The team is not a right off; but you guys are kidding yourselves if you think no change is needed!!

Our skill players and star guys are getting old and are injury prone.Arians is an idiot with an unhealthy screen play obsession. End of story.

DanRooney
01-18-2012, 05:12 AM
Could the gameplan of been better? Yes. Regardless of the gameplan though when your two best pass rushing threats on the edges can't get to the QB because they're hobbled that hurts more than the gameplan ever did. We were in the game up and until the end. We had our shots to win the game.

I think it's ridiculous to lay it all on the coaches and the gameplan when it was blatantly obvious that the players weren't doing their part. Tebow had all day to stand around in the pocket. Even when we blitzed we still weren't getting to the guy and with Keisel and Hampton out of the mix early it was a disaster waiting to happen. Injuries, especially to key starters, make a world of difference. That was more than evidenced in the San Francisco game. Look at the Giants. They start getting guys back from injuries and all of a sudden they're knocking the Packers off in convincing fashion at Lambeau Field. So in my opinion, the injuries hurt us more than anything else did.

After Taylor was burnt for 3 huge plays and a PI, common sense would tell you to stop putting him on an island with Thomas and move a safety over the top.

The defensive gameplan was so bad but not adjusting made it even worse.

LayingTheWoodley56
01-18-2012, 09:15 AM
Us losing to them had little to do with injury and more to do with a terrible gameplan.

How can you say it had little to do with injury? Yes, the gameplan was lacking but when you're missing two-thirds of your defensive line, with a severely banged-up hamstring hampering your best pass rusher, your starting tailback, with an extremely gimpy quarterback, no Pro Bowl center and eventually no left tackle, you can't really say that that wasn't at least one of the major factors of that loss.

FanSince72
01-18-2012, 09:53 AM
also..

arians was petyon manning's qb coach, so that automatically makes him the greatest OC ever.

:sofunny:

Man, you never pass up an opportunity to take a shot do you?

DanRooney
01-18-2012, 01:01 PM
How can you say it had little to do with injury? Yes, the gameplan was lacking but when you're missing two-thirds of your defensive line, with a severely banged-up hamstring hampering your best pass rusher, your starting tailback, with an extremely gimpy quarterback, no Pro Bowl center and eventually no left tackle, you can't really say that that wasn't at least one of the major factors of that loss.

Missing 2/3s of your D-Line, but the guy behind Keisel is no slouch and a 1st round pick. McLendon also saw a ton of time at NT.

And our best pass rusher is James Harrison. Not Woodley.

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stb_steeler
01-18-2012, 10:25 PM
This gettin annoying :doh:

IowaSteeler927
01-19-2012, 06:13 AM
The guy behind Keisel is Cameron Heyward. He's a first round pick yes, but he's also a rookie. That's a huge drop off behind a guy who was having a career year this year. As for the best pash rusher argument, Woodley was having the better year up until his injury. Honestly I don't see one as being hugely better than the other. They are both dominant pass rushers at the OLB position coming off the edge in our 3-4. Both were severly hobbled for this game.

Bayz101
01-21-2012, 12:59 AM
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Kanata-Steeler
01-21-2012, 06:53 AM
I'm angry too, about the way our Offense played this whole past season, but hey bud,
not that angry ! -Lol