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StainlessStill
01-18-2012, 07:34 PM
Arians haters', rejoice!


Steelers coordinator Bruce Arians might not return in 2012
Wednesday, January 18, 2012
By Gerry Dulac , Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Bob Donaldson / Post-Gazette


The Steelers coaching staff could undergo its first major change in the Mike Tomlin era because offensive coordinator Bruce Arians might not return in 2012, the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette has learned.

Arians, 57, is in the final year of his contract with the Steelers, and it is unclear if he is retiring -- something he considered last year -- or not having his contract renewed.

Arians has been the offensive coordinator since Tomlin became head coach in 2007. He was told last week by Tomlin that he would return in 2012, and Tomlin even indicated as much in a press conference one day after the Steelers' playoff loss in Denver.

However, team president Art Rooney II indicated on Tuesday that some members of the coaching staff were considering retirement.

Arians considered retiring after the 2010 season because of health problems and other issues. He even skipped attending the NFL combine in February while he mulled his decision.

First published on January 18, 2012 at 7:50 pm




http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/12018/1204433-100.stm

PhantomJB93
01-18-2012, 07:37 PM
Total speculation, but still...hope remains

Atlanta Dan
01-18-2012, 07:44 PM
This is like believing Santa Claus is coming down the chimney - hopefully it is more realistic

harrison'samonster
01-18-2012, 07:49 PM
I'll believe! That's the best news I've read in a while.

Atlanta Dan
01-18-2012, 07:49 PM
Dulac a little more emphatic on Twitter:thumbsup::drink:

@gerrydulac Gerry Dulac
Bruce Arians not expected to return next season.

http://twitter.com/#!/gerrydulac/status/159803243684306945

defence
01-18-2012, 07:53 PM
OHHHHHH YAAAAAAA:drink:

ricardisimo
01-18-2012, 07:56 PM
I'm going to print out this thread and lock myself in the bathroom for a few hours!

:jerkit:

Here's to high hopes!

:thumbsup:

stb_steeler
01-18-2012, 07:57 PM
Say it isnt so coach!
http://i465.photobucket.com/albums/rr13/ivorybanger15/bruce2.jpg

FrancoLambert
01-18-2012, 07:59 PM
I do believe in miracles...I do....I do....I do.

TRH
01-18-2012, 08:11 PM
Honestly.....there's nothing really in that article (aside from some hope) that dictates that headline.
He's completely pulling that out of his a**.

Although, thanks to the stern words from Rooney, it's possible.

Rick5895
01-18-2012, 08:18 PM
Hopefully this is more than wishful thinking. However, if this does happen and B.A. does retire who could come in and bring our offense to NFL standards.

Wallace108
01-18-2012, 08:22 PM
Honestly.....there's nothing really in that article (aside from some hope) that dictates that headline.
He's completely pulling that out of his a**.

Although, thanks to the stern words from Rooney, it's possible.

Dulac wouldn't report that unless he had a source. The source could end up being wrong, but that doesn't mean he's just pulling it out of his ass.

Atlanta Dan
01-18-2012, 08:23 PM
Honestly.....there's nothing really in that article (aside from some hope) that dictates that headline.
He's completely pulling that out of his a**.

Although, thanks to the stern words from Rooney, it's possible.

Something has changed for Dulac to post this on a Wednesday night during what is now the offseason - IMO the source is either Arians or Ben (neither of whom can shut up:chuckle:)

stb_steeler
01-18-2012, 08:24 PM
Hopefully this is more than wishful thinking. However, if this does happen and B.A. does retire who could come in and bring our offense to NFL standards.

This could get interesting......Any OC get the axe this year?

Fire Arians
01-18-2012, 08:56 PM
i got excited when i heard the rumors of him retiring last year, and that didn't happen. im not gonna celebrate until he's officially outta there.

xbroughneck
01-18-2012, 08:56 PM
Call the STANFORD offensive coordinator and give him a shot NOW.

I know that's not realistic and the Pro Set doesn't play to the Steelers strengths, but I'd love to see that power football game return to the Steelers with Big Ben being the recipient.

Three of the 4 remaining teams run first to set up the pass.

I'd love to get back to that.

GMU Steeler
01-18-2012, 08:58 PM
I'd be happy with someone who is just smart at situational football. Though I like many of you would like the running game more in the offense. I hope he does retire. I don't hate the man but we need some fresh ideas for the offense. I understand why Ben values Arians since the guy's been a constant here throughout his career but a new OC would benefit the offense and thus team as a whole.

stb_steeler
01-18-2012, 09:01 PM
Call the STANFORD offensive coordinator and give him a shot NOW.

I know that's not realistic and the Pro Set doesn't play to the Steelers strengths, but I'd love to see that power football game return to the Steelers with Big Ben being the recipient.

Three of the 4 remaining teams run first to set up the pass.

I'd love to get back to that.

The saying nowadays is its a passing league by the asshat media, i say bullshit.
I agree lets get back to Steeler football......

TRH
01-18-2012, 09:03 PM
Dulac wouldn't report that unless he had a source. The source could end up being wrong, but that doesn't mean he's just pulling it out of his ass.

possible..
But it sounded like it was attributed to the fact that Rooney said "some coaches may retire..."
If so, great. We'll just have to wait it out. Likely we'll find out sometime very shortly after the Super Bowl's done either way.

TRH
01-18-2012, 09:07 PM
The saying nowadays is its a passing league by the asshat media, i say bullshit.
I agree lets get back to Steeler football......

This IS "Steelers" football now. I bet that with a new OC we pass just as much...if not more.
But the playbook, style and calling will and should be all changed and refined.

stb_steeler
01-18-2012, 09:08 PM
This IS "Steelers" football now. I bet that with a new OC we pass just as much...if not more.
But the playbook, style and calling will and should be all changed and refined.

True, but lets hope its not predictable this time.

GMU Steeler
01-18-2012, 09:10 PM
So would we hire from within or outside the organization?

Bayz101
01-18-2012, 09:11 PM
Dulac wouldn't report that unless he had a source. The source could end up being wrong, but that doesn't mean he's just pulling it out of his ass.

You know i'm a post w h o r e when i'm nearly caught up to your post count, and you've been on a year longer :chuckle:

:pw:

Bayz101
01-18-2012, 09:13 PM
So would we hire from within or outside the organization?

Kirby Wilson was meant to be the step-in coordinator is Arians stepped down, and that's where the uncertainty lies right now.

Wallace108
01-18-2012, 09:17 PM
The saying nowadays is its a passing league by the asshat media, i say bullshit.
I agree lets get back to Steeler football......

I agree. Three of the four teams left in the playoffs don't exactly fit the mold of the current pass-happy league.

possible..
But it sounded like it was attributed to the fact that Rooney said "some coaches may retire..."
If so, great. We'll just have to wait it out. Likely we'll find out sometime very shortly after the Super Bowl's done either way.
Yeah, I'm not taking it as fact until it's confirmed. But it seems like there's more to it than just what Rooney said earlier. But you're right ... we'll just have to wait and see.

GMU Steeler
01-18-2012, 09:18 PM
Kirby Wilson was meant to be the step-in coordinator is Arians stepped down, and that's where the uncertainty lies right now.

I did not know that. So sad what happened to Wilson. That poor guy and his family too.

Bayz101
01-18-2012, 09:22 PM
I did not know that. So sad what happened to Wilson. That poor guy and his family too.

Bless him, it is terrible. Such a good man, and coach. I hope he recovers fully, and get's back to doing what he loves.

GMU Steeler
01-18-2012, 09:27 PM
Bless him, it is terrible. Such a good man, and coach. I hope he recovers fully, and get's back to doing what he loves.

I do too. Really like the job he's done with Redman in particular considering Red's background from a D-II school and UDFA.

LVSteelersfan
01-18-2012, 09:38 PM
Didn't Whisenhunt get fired from Arizona? Or Mike Martz in Chicago? JUST KIDDING. Don't like either one. Does anyone know if Raheem Morris is an offensive minded coach? If so, I would bet dollars to donuts that Tomlin would bring him in to replace Arians if he leaves. Not saying that is a good thing. I just know how it works with these guys bringing in their old cronies from other teams. That is why we were stuck with Mewelde Moore for about two years too long. And him getting put in the game when it made no sense at all.

Wallace108
01-18-2012, 09:40 PM
Does anyone know if Raheem Morris is an offensive minded coach?

Defense.

GMU Steeler
01-18-2012, 09:48 PM
Didn't Whisenhunt get fired from Arizona? Or Mike Martz in Chicago? JUST KIDDING. Don't like either one. Does anyone know if Raheem Morris is an offensive minded coach? If so, I would bet dollars to donuts that Tomlin would bring him in to replace Arians if he leaves. Not saying that is a good thing. I just know how it works with these guys bringing in their old cronies from other teams. That is why we were stuck with Mewelde Moore for about two years too long. And him getting put in the game when it made no sense at all.

Raheem Morris started out as Tomlin's asst on the D-Backs with the Bucs. As for Morris, the Redskins already hired him for that same position. Doubt Tomlin would hire him for OC anyhow since Morris's specialist was off a defensive backs specialist. Didn't Martz retire and yeah i know you were joking.

madtowndrunkard
01-18-2012, 09:53 PM
What I find disturbing is I read that Tomlin told Arians he was welcome back for 2012 soon after the Denver loss. My respect for Tomlin is fading fast.

Now I wonder if Arians is just being a drama queen and has no intentions of retiring? Maybe this is Arians sick and twisted way to jab at all of his haters? He could be sitting at home laughing, knowing full well he'll be back next year to destroy any chance of another SB title! How fun for him to leak that he's going to retire just to get our hopes up...then crush them.... like he's done for the last few years on the football field. I hate that man.

Well actually I don't hate him as a person, I don't even know the guy.... I just know I hate him as our OC.

MasterOfPuppets
01-18-2012, 10:11 PM
wait...did someone say there's still a chance ?

http://allwomenstalk.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/7-warning-signs-of-stress-you-should-be-aware-of/sudden-anger_7-warning-signs-of-stress-you-should-be-aware-of.jpg

SteelCurtain5643
01-18-2012, 10:13 PM
Please be true, i think all of us will be so happy

60_MINUTES
01-18-2012, 10:33 PM
I hope its true.. but if not reporting like this should get you fired.. he is doing nothing but guessing.. I guess the same thing but Im not reporting it and running it as news..

I hope he got some facts somewhere though.. what a great day this would be to finally get BEN someone to make him 50 percent better.. can you imagine BEN 50 percent better..

EbonySteel86
01-18-2012, 10:42 PM
THANK YOU SWEET BABY JESUS!!!!!

tony hipchest
01-18-2012, 10:47 PM
tom clements-

The previous two seasons, in addition to tutoring Rodgers as the backup and heir apparent, Clements oversaw a mini-renaissance of Brett Favre’s career. In 2006, Favre reduced his interceptions from a career-high 29 the year before to just 18, setting the stage for a near-MVP season in 2007, when he surpassed 4,000 yards passing for the fifth time. He also posted a then career-best completion percentage of 66.5 and a QB rating of 95.7 that was his third best at that point in leading the Packers back to the playoffs.

Before coming to Green Bay, Clements spent two seasons (2004-05) as offensive coordinator for the Buffalo Bills. In 2004, the Bills’ offense increased its scoring output by 152 and reduced its number of sacks allowed from 51 to 38, fewest by a Bills team since 1999. The unit was highlighted by RB Willis McGahee, who became the fifth running back in Bills history to register back-to-back 1,000-yard seasons, covering each year of Clements’ tenure. In addition, QB Kelly Holcomb set a club record in 2005 with a 67.39 completion percentage, surpassing Jim Kelly’s 1991 mark, 64.14 percent.

Prior to joining the Bills, Clements served as Pittsburgh’s quarterbacks coach for three seasons (2001-03) under Bill Cowher. In 2002, he helped Tommy Maddox earn the Comeback Player of the Year award from The Associated Press, as Pittsburgh’s passing offense ranked seventh in the NFL, its highest finish since 1980 with Terry Bradshaw under center.

Clements also worked with Pittsburgh’s Kordell Stewart (2001) and Kansas City’s Elvis Grbac (2000) during each quarterback’s best season, both culminating in Pro Bowl berths. Mike Ditka gave Clements his first NFL coaching job, hiring him to coach the Saints’ quarterbacks (1997-99), a group that included Jake Delhomme and Kerry Collins.

BKAnthem
01-18-2012, 11:03 PM
tom clements-

The previous two seasons, in addition to tutoring Rodgers as the backup and heir apparent, Clements oversaw a mini-renaissance of Brett Favre’s career. In 2006, Favre reduced his interceptions from a career-high 29 the year before to just 18, setting the stage for a near-MVP season in 2007, when he surpassed 4,000 yards passing for the fifth time. He also posted a then career-best completion percentage of 66.5 and a QB rating of 95.7 that was his third best at that point in leading the Packers back to the playoffs.

Before coming to Green Bay, Clements spent two seasons (2004-05) as offensive coordinator for the Buffalo Bills. In 2004, the Bills’ offense increased its scoring output by 152 and reduced its number of sacks allowed from 51 to 38, fewest by a Bills team since 1999. The unit was highlighted by RB Willis McGahee, who became the fifth running back in Bills history to register back-to-back 1,000-yard seasons, covering each year of Clements’ tenure. In addition, QB Kelly Holcomb set a club record in 2005 with a 67.39 completion percentage, surpassing Jim Kelly’s 1991 mark, 64.14 percent.

Prior to joining the Bills, Clements served as Pittsburgh’s quarterbacks coach for three seasons (2001-03) under Bill Cowher. In 2002, he helped Tommy Maddox earn the Comeback Player of the Year award from The Associated Press, as Pittsburgh’s passing offense ranked seventh in the NFL, its highest finish since 1980 with Terry Bradshaw under center.

Clements also worked with Pittsburgh’s Kordell Stewart (2001) and Kansas City’s Elvis Grbac (2000) during each quarterback’s best season, both culminating in Pro Bowl berths. Mike Ditka gave Clements his first NFL coaching job, hiring him to coach the Saints’ quarterbacks (1997-99), a group that included Jake Delhomme and Kerry Collins.


Hiring Clements makes to much sense... so it will never happen....

Doug Pederson the QB coach for the eagles and former packers QB would also warrant at least a long look...IMO

Steel Peon
01-18-2012, 11:17 PM
Right now Arians is thinking to himself: "Why aren't Steeler fans getting all in an uproar about this? Why do many of them seem happy? Why won't other teams call me?"

OX1947
01-18-2012, 11:19 PM
DAMN IT SAN DIEGO. Why did they have to keep Norv Turner, if I were the Steelers I would have flown him in and signed a deal in record time.

tony hipchest
01-18-2012, 11:21 PM
Hiring Clements makes to much sense... so it will never happen....


:yep:

im afraid youre right...

DAMN IT SAN DIEGO. Why did they have to keep Norv Turner, if I were the Steelers I would have flown him in and signed a deal in record time.

that was my #1 choice. he woulda been excellent for the steelers.

i just hope if arians is gonna go it happens quick, so we can strike while the iron is hot and not have to settle for dregs on the scrap heap.

OX1947
01-18-2012, 11:52 PM
Some sort of spam i guess

I started reading and thought I was reading the Wall Street Journal, then all of a sudden it dawned on me that I'm on Steelers fever.

tony hipchest
01-18-2012, 11:54 PM
try to ignore spam. sometimes we arent available to delete it immediately. there are literally dozens of spammers joining every day.

MACH1
01-19-2012, 12:00 AM
Lets all hope Ben doesn't help him change his mind into staying.

LayingTheWoodley56
01-19-2012, 01:34 AM
If I was BA, I would read this thread and decide to retire just based on 5 pages of comments celebrating even an inkling of his potential departure. I agree - it's time to get back to hard-nosed, bang-it-past-the-chains Pittsburgh Steeler SMASHMOUTH football.

ricardisimo
01-19-2012, 03:00 AM
tom clements-

The previous two seasons, in addition to tutoring Rodgers as the backup and heir apparent, Clements oversaw a mini-renaissance of Brett Favre’s career. In 2006, Favre reduced his interceptions from a career-high 29 the year before to just 18, setting the stage for a near-MVP season in 2007, when he surpassed 4,000 yards passing for the fifth time. He also posted a then career-best completion percentage of 66.5 and a QB rating of 95.7 that was his third best at that point in leading the Packers back to the playoffs.

Before coming to Green Bay, Clements spent two seasons (2004-05) as offensive coordinator for the Buffalo Bills. In 2004, the Bills’ offense increased its scoring output by 152 and reduced its number of sacks allowed from 51 to 38, fewest by a Bills team since 1999. The unit was highlighted by RB Willis McGahee, who became the fifth running back in Bills history to register back-to-back 1,000-yard seasons, covering each year of Clements’ tenure. In addition, QB Kelly Holcomb set a club record in 2005 with a 67.39 completion percentage, surpassing Jim Kelly’s 1991 mark, 64.14 percent.

Prior to joining the Bills, Clements served as Pittsburgh’s quarterbacks coach for three seasons (2001-03) under Bill Cowher. In 2002, he helped Tommy Maddox earn the Comeback Player of the Year award from The Associated Press, as Pittsburgh’s passing offense ranked seventh in the NFL, its highest finish since 1980 with Terry Bradshaw under center.

Clements also worked with Pittsburgh’s Kordell Stewart (2001) and Kansas City’s Elvis Grbac (2000) during each quarterback’s best season, both culminating in Pro Bowl berths. Mike Ditka gave Clements his first NFL coaching job, hiring him to coach the Saints’ quarterbacks (1997-99), a group that included Jake Delhomme and Kerry Collins.

Not to mention that he's from where? Pittsburgh. That's where.
Clements attended Canevin Catholic High School (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bishop_Canevin_High_School). Clements was a four year letterman in both football and basketball. He was also offered a basketball scholarship at North Carolina, but decided to play football instead. He is the only athlete in Canevin history to have his jersey retired.

Pentheon
01-19-2012, 03:42 AM
If it turns out to be true Id be curious and excited to see who we would bring in.

ricardisimo
01-19-2012, 04:16 AM
try to ignore spam. sometimes we arent available to delete it immediately. there are literally dozens of spammers joining every day.
Dozens, and dozens and dozens... And whatever you do, people, please don't quote the spammers, people. The spam just lives on in perpetuity that way.

Whenever folks want to volunteer for spam duty, let Pete, Tony or myself know, and we'll try to make it happen.

IowaSteeler927
01-19-2012, 05:09 AM
I'm going to print out this thread and lock myself in the bathroom for a few hours!

:jerkit:

Here's to high hopes!

:thumbsup:

Gotta admit this one made me laugh!

Please Bruce do leave. You can watch youtube videos of screen plays all you want to get your fix.

Lokki
01-19-2012, 05:25 AM
If I was BA, I would read this thread and decide to retire just based on 5 pages of comments celebrating even an inkling of his potential departure. I agree - it's time to get back to hard-nosed, bang-it-past-the-chains Pittsburgh Steeler SMASHMOUTH football.

We need to find some way to get the link to this thread to him. :coffee:

SteelCity'33
01-19-2012, 07:15 AM
Here is to hoping Clements is on his way in...Adios BO I mean BA.

3rdandlong
01-19-2012, 07:50 AM
Oh my God, I'm so excited! Just don't put in Arian's protege. That could be just as worse

FanSince72
01-19-2012, 08:26 AM
Clements (if he's available) sounds like he could be what we're looking for. But just remember that Arians was a QB coach too.

Tom Clements is also a licensed attorney so this could be a two-fer because not only could he coach the offense, but he could also represent James Harrison in his frequent battles with Goodell.

AgentGold007
01-19-2012, 08:32 AM
I wish they wouldn't have put this out there so soon, because now Arians may stick around another year just to spite them.

steelfury02
01-19-2012, 08:36 AM
seems like a sure thing - Eddy B at PPG says Arians is done whether it be retirement or Rooney didn't renew his contract

If it ends up being wrong (which I doubt) then take me out back and shoot me

SteelCurtain5643
01-19-2012, 08:46 AM
I just read that Kirby Wilson wouldve been next in line to replace Arians but because of the whole fire he might not get that chance

Atlanta Dan
01-19-2012, 08:48 AM
Following up on the Ed B. story this morning referenced above

It appears Bruce Arians is out, one way or another, as Gerry Dulac has reported. There goes that lightning rod, now who's the next target?

Sadly, Kirby Wilson was in line to be the next offensive coordinator...

But will Tomlin truly be the one to hire the next coach? Remember, he said just last week that he wanted both of his coordinators back, and by all accounts it sounded as though Arians wanted to come back. But what if his contract wasn't renewed, which Gerry raised as one of the possibilities? That would not have been Tomlin's decision, but Art Rooney's....

If -- and I emphasize that -- this is not Arians' decision and not Tomlin's, then the question is not only who will be the next coordinator, but who will hire him?

http://plus.sites.post-gazette.com/index.php/pro-sports/steelers/114466-ed-wilson-was-in-line-to-be-next-coordinator

Sounds like a replay of 2009 except this time Tomlin could not talk AJR II out of canning Arians - I guess Art figured fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

tony hipchest
01-19-2012, 08:58 AM
heres jim wexells take-

jimwexell James C Wexell
Easy today to say Kirby Wilson was next in line, but I'd always heard the first internal candidate was Randy Fichtner.

im hoping for clements, and as FanSince72 pointed out, being an attorney and speaking the same lanquage, possibly he will understand the plain english art II uses a little better than bruce did..

FanSince72
01-19-2012, 10:31 AM
heres jim wexells take-

jimwexell James C Wexell
Easy today to say Kirby Wilson was next in line, but I'd always heard the first internal candidate was Randy Fichtner.

im hoping for clements, and as FanSince72 pointed out, being an attorney and speaking the same lanquage, possibly he will understand the plain english art II uses a little better than bruce did..

Lawyers don't speak in plain English.

My definition of a lawyer (or politician, which is the same thing):

A lawyer walks into a building soaking wet and shaking out an umbrella.
Someone in the building asks, "Is it raining?"
The lawyer will then proceed to give that person a twenty-minute-long answer, after which the person who asked the question will have get up and walk outside to see if it's raining.

Fire Arians
01-19-2012, 10:40 AM
Following up on the Ed B. story this morning referenced above

It appears Bruce Arians is out, one way or another, as Gerry Dulac has reported. There goes that lightning rod, now who's the next target?

Sadly, Kirby Wilson was in line to be the next offensive coordinator...

But will Tomlin truly be the one to hire the next coach? Remember, he said just last week that he wanted both of his coordinators back, and by all accounts it sounded as though Arians wanted to come back. But what if his contract wasn't renewed, which Gerry raised as one of the possibilities? That would not have been Tomlin's decision, but Art Rooney's....

If -- and I emphasize that -- this is not Arians' decision and not Tomlin's, then the question is not only who will be the next coordinator, but who will hire him?

http://plus.sites.post-gazette.com/index.php/pro-sports/steelers/114466-ed-wilson-was-in-line-to-be-next-coordinator

Sounds like a replay of 2009 except this time Tomlin could not talk AJR II out of canning Arians - I guess Art figured fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

**** yeah if true, im not gonna crack open the champagne until it's official though.

MACH1
01-19-2012, 10:55 AM
Following up on the Ed B. story this morning referenced above

It appears Bruce Arians is out, one way or another, as Gerry Dulac has reported. There goes that lightning rod, now who's the next target?

Sadly, Kirby Wilson was in line to be the next offensive coordinator...

But will Tomlin truly be the one to hire the next coach? Remember, he said just last week that he wanted both of his coordinators back, and by all accounts it sounded as though Arians wanted to come back. But what if his contract wasn't renewed, which Gerry raised as one of the possibilities? That would not have been Tomlin's decision, but Art Rooney's....

If -- and I emphasize that -- this is not Arians' decision and not Tomlin's, then the question is not only who will be the next coordinator, but who will hire him?

http://plus.sites.post-gazette.com/index.php/pro-sports/steelers/114466-ed-wilson-was-in-line-to-be-next-coordinator

Sounds like a replay of 2009 except this time Tomlin could not talk AJR II out of canning Arians - I guess Art figured fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

I borrowed your article and went and shook the hornets nest with it. :chuckle:

ItalianSteelersFan178443
01-19-2012, 11:17 AM
I am just so happy that our offense will start working its way up into the Top 15 for the upcoming seasons now that Arians is looking to be on his way out. I do think that the Steelers will hire a temporary OC until K. Wilson makes a full recovery. They have a lot of faith in Wilson and he is next in line for the OC. I am not sure who we will sign, but if we can get a young OC who likes to run the ball and who likes to have a safe passing game then we should be set. The Steelers really need to throw a going away for good party for BA, but they shouldn't invite anyone important because of the occassion haha

tony hipchest
01-19-2012, 11:20 AM
I borrowed your article and went and shook the hornets nest with it. :chuckle:

:thumbsup:

i cant wait to see all bruces neices and nephews scramble to circle the broken wheel'd wagon.

theyre sure to go down with the sinking ship, denying the inevitable to the very end. :jerkit:

then they''ll blame the fans for forcing him into "retirement" (even though Art II is just giving him an honorable "out") and then predict doom an gloom for all of steelernation similar to 2004 when we went 15-1 with a new OC and followed up that year with a SB win in 2005. :rolleyes:

tony hipchest
01-19-2012, 11:22 AM
i think its safe to say kirby wilson is unfortunately forced into early retirement. If he makes it, he will live on SS disability.

Bayz101
01-19-2012, 11:23 AM
:thumbsup:

i cant wait to see all bruces neices and nephews scramble to circle the broken wheel'd wagon.

theyre sure to go down with the sinking ship, denying the inevitable to the very end. :jerkit:

then they''ll blame the fans for forcing him into "retirement" (even though Art II is just giving him an honorable "out") and then predict doom an gloom for all of steelernation similar to 2004 when we went 15-1 with a new OC and followed up that year with a SB win in 2005. :rolleyes:

How soon people forget :wink02:

stb_steeler
01-19-2012, 11:24 AM
If coach Kirby is next to become the OC and he's not fully recovered by next spring ( and i hope he is) who could be the next replacement?... I just dont see the organization waiting that long if his recovery takes awhile.

tony hipchest
01-19-2012, 11:34 AM
IF reports are true-

"oh no! Big ben is going to be upset." :crying01:

"retiring is NOT bruces idea" [although neither is anybody else NOT HIRING him.]

"the fans will run the new OC out of town after week 1 !!!!!1!!1!!!1!!!!.

"the fans will never be happy with anyone other than the irreplacable arians!!!!"

"nobody could be better"

"now fire lebeau!!!!"

"i also loved ray sherman and kevin gilbride to the very end!!!!"

:sofunny:

If coach Kirby is next to become the OC and he's not fully recovered by next spring ( and i hope he is) who could be the next replacement?... I just dont see the organization waiting that long if his recovery takes awhile.see post #58. QB coach randy fitchner is the "in house" candidate, although i think they see how things play out with tom clements interviews as well. if he doesnt get a HC job, or move up to OC at green bay, he may wanna make a career advancement and come back to pittsburgh.

Atlanta Dan
01-19-2012, 11:40 AM
The trigger should have been pulled on this last week - other teams that dumped the HC or OC already have been hiring candidates

I think the team literaly was in shock last week about the Denver loss and could not focus on what to do next

Rotorhead
01-19-2012, 11:47 AM
Thank god for this news, best news i have heard in a good while. I honestly think BA would have been out last season were it not for the lockout, just made sense to keep the same off that got you to a SB intact when there wouldnt be any time to learn a new one.

MACH1
01-19-2012, 11:51 AM
:thumbsup:

i cant wait to see all bruces neices and nephews scramble to circle the broken wheel'd wagon.

theyre sure to go down with the sinking ship, denying the inevitable to the very end. :jerkit:

then they''ll blame the fans for forcing him into "retirement" (even though Art II is just giving him an honorable "out") and then predict doom an gloom for all of steelernation similar to 2004 when we went 15-1 with a new OC and followed up that year with a SB win in 2005. :rolleyes:

Yep, thats it in a nutshell. It's the same old lame excuses.

The time for excuses is over. I hope.

i think its safe to say kirby wilson is unfortunately forced into early retirement. If he makes it, he will live on SS disability.

I hate to say it but it's probably true. Even if he can make his way back it'll probably be a good year or two before he can.

MACH1
01-19-2012, 11:55 AM
IF reports are true-

"oh no! Big ben is going to be upset." :crying01:

"retiring is NOT bruces idea" [although neither is anybody else NOT HIRING him.]

"the fans will run the new OC out of town after week 1 !!!!!1!!1!!!1!!!!.

"the fans will never be happy with anyone other than the irreplacable arians!!!!"

"nobody could be better"

"now fire lebeau!!!!"

"i also loved ray sherman and kevin gilbride to the very end!!!!"

:sofunny:




Heyyyyy, you've been peeking in haven't you. :chuckle:

tony hipchest
01-19-2012, 12:04 PM
Heyyyyy, you've been peeking in haven't you. :chuckle:

yep, i broke down and took a gander, and honestly i cant handle that "defense of the indefensible" puke and drivel.

them people are SO afraid of change, they cant see straight.

:blah:poor ben, poor ben, we will suck w/o arians, nothing can be better. :blah:


but fortunately (if true) a new OC's plate will be full of offensive talent & will work wonders where arians has failed.

-mularkey worked wonders where sherman and gilbride failed.

-ken whiz worked wonders when mularkey failed.

-chan gailey worked wonders when ron erhardt failed.

etc.

etc.

etc.

im done tryin to dig peoples heads out of the sand. (been there, done that).

while the rooneys have always shown to be VERY patient (at times to a fault) this certainly isnt their 1st rodeo.

:wave: thanks for the good times, bruce. :hope:

Steelerfreak58
01-19-2012, 01:45 PM
Hmm I got my hopes up.

ricardisimo
01-19-2012, 03:27 PM
I borrowed your article and went and shook the hornets nest with it. :chuckle:
I thought you got banned from AriansUniverse. You some sort of double-agent? :wtf:

tanda10506
01-19-2012, 03:32 PM
I don't know if it played a role in him coming back, but I'm not sure if him retiring or getting canned at the beginning of last year was a good idea. I know he is tragically horrible, but a new OC with 2 weeks to adapt to a new team couldn't have been much better. This year is not the case and I would love to see Arians go. I got the champagne chilling. I know it's mostly speculation, but if Arians goes, I will be throwing a party!

MACH1
01-19-2012, 03:45 PM
I thought you got banned from AriansUniverse. You some sort of double-agent? :wtf:

:sofunny: Not yet. It wouldn't surprise me if the arians lovers started banning the "haters" IF he gets canned though.

I was banned from this place a few times when it blew up back then. :toofunny:
I don't spend much time over there anyways, but its fun to go :stirthepot: every now and then.

tanda10506
01-19-2012, 03:47 PM
Damn it, I hate this thread. Since I seen it 20 minutes ago I can't stop checking back in to see if there is new news.

tony hipchest
01-19-2012, 03:53 PM
:sofunny: Not yet. It wouldn't surprise me if the arians lovers started banning the "haters" IF he gets canned though.

I was banned from this place a few times when it blew up back then. :toofunny:
I don't spend much time over there anyways, but its fun to go :stirthepot: every now and then.i have never seen a messageboard for any sports team that trashes its very own fanbase more than the admin does over there. the worst part is the favorite members are encouraged to call all the fans spoiled petulant retards, and they hate on "steelernation" more than they actually discuss the issues.

i heard arians is thinking of retiring from football so he can focus on his bid winning the republican nomination for the presidential ticket.

if he has them spear heading his campaign he is sure to win! :applaudit::applaudit:

MACH1
01-19-2012, 04:01 PM
i have never seen a messageboard for any sports team that trashes its very own fanbase more than the admin does over there. the worst part is the favorite members are encouraged to call all the fans spoiled petulant retards, and they hate on "steelernation" more than they actually discuss the issues.

i heard arians is thinking of retiring from football so he can focus on his bid winning the republican nomination for the presidential ticket.

if he has them spear heading his campaign he is sure to win! :applaudit::applaudit:

Yep, I get that warm and fuzzy feeling every time.
Got to love the personal attacks they let certain members get away with as long as they tow the company line.

Fire Arians
01-19-2012, 04:02 PM
wait there's actually a site called arians universe? can someone give me the link? I bet i'd get banned in 2 seconds lol

Atlanta Dan
01-19-2012, 04:07 PM
i heard arians is thinking of retiring from football so he can focus on his bid winning the republican nomination for the presidential ticket.
:

Bouchette speculates Arians may have been trolling for an interview for the Dolphins HC job

It seems plain that Tomlin wanted Arians back but that he could not guarantee it because someone might offer him a head coaching job. Last week, I received an email from a writer at the Miami Herald, asking me if Arians had an agent. I asked him why and never got a response, but then there never was a word written about Arians that I know of connecting him to the Miami Dolphins either. The Dolphins reportedly are down to their three finalists.

http://plus.sites.post-gazette.com/index.php/pro-sports/steelers/114466-ed-wilson-was-in-line-to-be-next-coordinator

Maybe AJR II did not go public until this week until the Dolphins refused to top the Jax hire of Mularkey by hiring BA? Or maybe Arians e-mailed Ed.B. from a FedEx-Kinkos and pretended to be a Miami Herald reporter in order to plant a story that Arians was under consideration for the Dolphins HC job?:noidea:

Fire Arians
01-19-2012, 04:16 PM
Bouchette speculates Arians may have been trolling for an interview for the Dolphins HC job

It seems plain that Tomlin wanted Arians back but that he could not guarantee it because someone might offer him a head coaching job. Last week, I received an email from a writer at the Miami Herald, asking me if Arians had an agent. I asked him why and never got a response, but then there never was a word written about Arians that I know of connecting him to the Miami Dolphins either. The Dolphins reportedly are down to their three finalists.

http://plus.sites.post-gazette.com/index.php/pro-sports/steelers/114466-ed-wilson-was-in-line-to-be-next-coordinator

Maybe AJR II did not go public until this week until the Dolphins refused to top the Jax hire of Mularkey by hiring BA? Or maybe Arians e-mailed Ed.B. from a FedEx-Kinkos and pretended to be a Miami Herald reporter in order to plant a story that Arians was under consideration for the Dolphins HC job?:noidea:

you know i had a dream last night that arians got hired by the dolphins

i also dreamt the steelers lost to the broncos a few weeks ago

so if history repeats itself... :wave:

GMU Steeler
01-19-2012, 04:23 PM
Ha I would hope the Dolphins are stupid enough to hire him. I think what's more likely is he retires. Hasn't he had health concerns? Anyhow I think the best thing that will come out of Arians going if he goes is just some new ideas which the offense sorely needs and my big problem with Arians is that he doesn't seem to respect the importance of the running game. I realize it's become a pass first league but you can still use the run and hell it may be to our benefit to use the run more than most teams if teams defenses are being built to stop passes.

Ricco Suavez
01-19-2012, 04:26 PM
I defended Arians up to this year. I see with my eyes that this offense moves the ball well when Ben is healthy. I see some new and young weapons on this offense. I also know that with all the offense this unit has generated it has not scored like it should. I came to realize that we need fresh ideas and someone who can and will take a chance to mix things up. With that said I have this to say also.

WE do not have the studs up front to run Steeler football anymore. WE will not return to the glory days of Bettis and WE will not become a run first team. What I hope is we do become more balanced. The teams left in the playoffs are a mix of run and pass with one exception.

NY Giants on the year have a higher pass to run ration than even the Patriots. They pass 58.9 percent while NE passes 58.8. The Steelers would fall here if we compare at 55.4 percent. The Ravens pass at 54.2 percent and the 49ers at 47.5 percent. Not surprising is the 49ers dependency on the run with Smith as their QB. Harbaugh knows he has a great defense, a great O-Line, and a RB named Gore. Ravens also have a good defense, a better line than ours, and Ray Rice. BTW if any of you read Raven forums they feel about Cam the way most feel about Arians.

I think we need a fresh face and some new looks but I am not going to "holler" hurray or if things start slow "doom and gloom".

tony hipchest
01-19-2012, 04:29 PM
Maybe AJR II did not go public until this week until the Dolphins refused to top the Jax hire of Mularkey by hiring BA? Or maybe Arians e-mailed Ed.B. from a FedEx-Kinkos and pretended to be a Miami Herald reporter in order to plant a story that Arians was under consideration for the Dolphins HC job?:noidea:

:chuckle:

i think youre on to something... :scratchchin:

whats funny is arians probably doesnt even have an agent cause he doesnt want to spend money on something he'll never have use for.

its pretty plain to see how someone like tomlin (or even cowher or gruden) could go into a group of any prospective employers and knock their socks off in an interview.

its also seems evident where someone like russ grim m could fail in that same regard.

bruce would say something stupid and trip over his big mouth before he even got in the door.

bruce isnt getting a HC job ever, and it probably has as much to do with his personality as his not-too-impressive skills and accomplishments.

TRH
01-19-2012, 04:30 PM
[QUOTE=Ricco Suavez;986429]I defended Arians up to this year. I see with my eyes that this offense moves the ball well when Ben is healthy. I see some new and young weapons on this offense. I also know that with all the offense this unit has generated it has not scored like it should. I came to realize that we need fresh ideas and someone who can and will take a chance to mix things up. With that said I have this to say also.

WE do not have the studs up front to run Steeler football anymore. WE will not return to the glory days of Bettis and WE will not become a run first team. What I hope is we do become more balanced. The teams left in the playoffs are a mix of run and pass with one exception.

NY Giants on the year have a higher pass to run ration than even the Patriots. QUOTE]







We definitely need a better balance, more use of tight-ends, and an end to our predictability (running 'bubble' screens that the entire western world can see even before the ball is snapped).

League-wide : I fully expect the pass attempts and passing games to be even more on the rise next year.

GMU Steeler
01-19-2012, 04:34 PM
I defended Arians up to this year. I see with my eyes that this offense moves the ball well when Ben is healthy. I see some new and young weapons on this offense. I also know that with all the offense this unit has generated it has not scored like it should. I came to realize that we need fresh ideas and someone who can and will take a chance to mix things up. With that said I have this to say also.

WE do not have the studs up front to run Steeler football anymore. WE will not return to the glory days of Bettis and WE will not become a run first team. What I hope is we do become more balanced. The teams left in the playoffs are a mix of run and pass with one exception.

NY Giants on the year have a higher pass to run ration than even the Patriots. They pass 58.9 percent while NE passes 58.8. The Steelers would fall here if we compare at 55.4 percent. The Ravens pass at 54.2 percent and the 49ers at 47.5 percent. Not surprising is the 49ers dependency on the run with Smith as their QB. Harbaugh knows he has a great defense, a great O-Line, and a RB named Gore. Ravens also have a good defense, a better line than ours, and Ray Rice. BTW if any of you read Raven forums they feel about Cam the way most feel about Arians.

I think we need a fresh face and some new looks but I am not going to "holler" hurray or if things start slow "doom and gloom".
Yeah they despise Cam over there. I agree. A fresh face and some new looks is what we need here. And I agree, the offense is at its best when Ben is healthy. That bit about the Giants passing more than the Pats shocks me honestly since I thought the Giants were more balanced than that.

steelfury02
01-19-2012, 04:50 PM
I don't care about ratios / percentages at this point so long as we vastly improve in situational football and get a coach who cares more about advancing the chains and scoring 7 than what Ben wants. Oh yea, and there's that whole O-line thing and Ben needing to take less chances. He needs to "tweak" his game as stated by Rooney - otherwise his health and his legacy are going to go down the tubes quickly.

Plus - time to get hungry again and the flatness and general lack of desire is very concerning. I wish we could just get back to bullying the big boys and especially the bottom feeders rather than playing down to their level and not being able to steal huge games away.

ricardisimo
01-19-2012, 04:51 PM
wait there's actually a site called arians universe? can someone give me the link? I bet i'd get banned in 2 seconds lol
No, no... that was just me being a smartypants.

tony hipchest
01-19-2012, 04:57 PM
wait there's actually a site called arians universe? can someone give me the link? I bet i'd get banned in 2 seconds lol

No, no... that was just me being a smartypants.yeah, its actually called RepublicanUniverse. :chuckle:

check your PM Fire Arians, but if youre Democrat AND dont like arians, dont even bother registering. those people are banned instantly.

its a very intolerant and hostile bunch. :coffee:

Bayz101
01-19-2012, 04:57 PM
Lmao AriansUniverse

stb_steeler
01-19-2012, 05:04 PM
:chuckle:

i think youre on to something... :scratchchin:

whats funny is arians probably doesnt even have an agent cause he doesnt want to spend money on something he'll never have use for.

its pretty plain to see how someone like tomlin (or even cowher or gruden) could go into a group of any prospective employers and knock their socks off in an interview.

its also seems evident where someone like russ grim m could fail in that same regard.

bruce would say something stupid and trip over his big mouth before he even got in the door.

bruce isnt getting a HC job ever, and it probably has as much to do with his personality as his not-too-impressive skills and accomplishments.

Arians kinds reminds me of Luther
BsH_HIHbv6E

tony hipchest
01-19-2012, 05:08 PM
:chuckle: "30' tall guy"

the latest is an art II interview with bob pompeneii where he says tomlin will make final decision on arians-

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2012/01/report-bruce-arians-decision-rest-with-mike-tomlin/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+SteelersDepotBlog+%28Steelers +Depot+Blog%29

mark kaboly breaks down the interview via tweets-

https://twitter.com/#!/MarkKaboly_Trib


@MarkKaboly_TribMark Kaboly


Rooney sure didn't squash the possibilty of Arians leaving to @KDPomp during his interview today. Could have killed it all if he wanted

in the meantime....

JasonLaCanforaJason La Canfora





Packers QB Tom Clements finished interview with Bucs and is headed back to GB; Pack OC Joe Philbin interviewing now with Bucs #insideslant

stb_steeler
01-19-2012, 05:12 PM
When will it ever end.........:old::shootme:

Atlanta Dan
01-19-2012, 05:15 PM
:chuckle: "30' tall guy"

the latest is an art II interview with bob pompeneii where he says tomlin will make final decision on arians-

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2012/01/report-bruce-arians-decision-rest-with-mike-tomlin/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+SteelersDepotBlog+%28Steelers +Depot+Blog%29

in the meantime....

JasonLaCanforaJason La Canfora
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The link said Arians is going as Ben's guest to the Pro Bowl

After playing on one leg WTF is Ben thinking with regard to playing in the Pro Bowl next week?

If Ben wants quality time with BA just pay for the f***ing airfare and hotel:banging:

stb_steeler
01-19-2012, 05:19 PM
The link said Arians is going as Ben's guest to the Pro Bowl

After playing on one leg WTF is Ben thinking with regard to playing in the Pro Bowl next week?

If Ben wants quality time with BA just pay for the f***ing airfare and hotel:banging:

I think the real mystery here is, why does Ben love Airhead so much...hmmmmm

tanda10506
01-19-2012, 05:25 PM
When I was reading the last few pages the first thing that popped into my mind was, that IMO, it's more scary to think that Tomlin wants Arians back. Getting Arians back is horrible and scary , but Tomlin actually wants this guy on the team! I never knew that being well below mediocre was "the standard" for Tomlin's offense, yet he stated that he wanted Arians back, so it must be. After reading that latest Rooney interview, I have little hope we will get rid of Arians. If it's left up to Tomlin then he will be back, unless he retires for personal reasons. What a shame, Rooney in the previous interview sounded like he wanted to make a change and get stuff done, but he knows what the result will be if it's Tomlin's choice, so evidently he doesn't wan't to change the offense that much. Either that or there is much more going on behind closed doors. Definitely a possibility that the FO is taking the high road and letting Arians retire or take a different job rather then just canning him. I guess we'll see.

On a side note, Ben just got married yet he's leaving his wife at home so he can take Arians? I just don't see why Ben likes this guy so much, he's holding back his career while shortening it. My wife never nags me about ANYTHING, she's really laid back, but if I took some guy from work to Hawaii and left her at home.....oh boy

Bayz101
01-19-2012, 05:34 PM
When I was reading the last few pages the first thing that popped into my mind was, that IMO, it's more scary to think that Tomlin wants Arians back. Getting Arians back is horrible and scary , but Tomlin actually wants this guy on the team! I never knew that being well below mediocre was "the standard" for Tomlin's offense, yet he stated that he wanted Arians back, so it must be. After reading that latest Rooney interview, I have little hope we will get rid of Arians. If it's left up to Tomlin then he will be back, unless he retires for personal reasons. What a shame, Rooney in the previous interview sounded like he wanted to make a change and get stuff done, but he knows what the result will be if it's Tomlin's choice, so evidently he doesn't wan't to change the offense that much. Either that or there is much more going on behind closed doors. Definitely a possibility that the FO is taking the high road and letting Arians retire or take a different job rather then just canning him. I guess we'll see.

On a side note, Ben just got married yet he's leaving his wife at home so he can take Arians? I just don't see why Ben likes this guy so much, he's holding back his career while shortening it. My wife never nags me about ANYTHING, she's really laid back, but if I took some guy from work to Hawaii and left her at home.....oh boy


Well, be scared then, Rooney said today it's Mike's decision on whether Arians stays, or goes. As for Ben's wife, she's going too:

From Ben…

Thank you to all the fans!

I want to take a second to say thank you to all the fans who voted for me and helped me get back to Hawaii for the Pro Bowl. It is an awesome honor to be voted by my peers and coaches, but even more by the fans and that’s all of you! I wouldn’t have been able to go if it weren’t for all of your votes (no matter how many times you voted, haha).

I also want to say thank you for all of you who voted for my teammates, it will be awesome to throw to 2 of my receivers! Also a special thank you to Erin! Without your help and support I would not be going to Hawaii, so thank you so very much.

Thanks again everyone and I’ll do my best to send some pics for you all to see.

P.S. A special thank you from Ashley because now that you all voted for me she finally gets her honeymoon! Haha

Thanks again, Ben and Ash

I don't think there's a limit to how many guests you take, considering Ben's contract is worth 100 million bones...

Last time he made it to the Pro-Bowl he brought his entire offensive line!

tanda10506
01-19-2012, 06:00 PM
Lol, I am scared. I just want this team to get another SB so badly, and I don't think we can continue to win in spite of Arians. As for the Pro Bowl thing with Ben, I forgot Ben made that statement, so I guess that doesn't apply. I still don't know why Ben likes that bastard so much.

Bayz101
01-19-2012, 06:03 PM
Lol, I am scared. I just want this team to get another SB so badly, and I don't think we can continue to win in spite of Arians. As for the Pro Bowl thing with Ben, I forgot Ben made that statement, so I guess that doesn't apply. I still don't know why Ben likes that bastard so much.

Because he let's him do what he want's to do.

Riddle_Of_Steel
01-19-2012, 06:05 PM
I still don't know why Ben likes that bastard so much.

Wow.

So because YOU don't approve of his offensive playcalling, he is a "bastard"? Question: do you actually know Bruce Arians personally? Maybe he and Ben are friends?

You know.....there is more to a person than what he can do as an offensive coordinator.

Lets not lose our touch on reality now....this is just sports.

tanda10506
01-19-2012, 06:10 PM
Because he let's him do what he want's to do.

Yeah, true, I hope if Arians goes Ben doesn't want to carry on with the garbage bubble screens and long bombs every third play.

Atlanta Dan
01-19-2012, 06:12 PM
Wow.

So because YOU don't approve of his offensive playcalling, he is a "bastard"? Question: do you actually know Bruce Arians personally? Maybe he and Ben are friends?

You know.....there is more to a person than what he can do as an offensive coordinator.

Lets not lose our touch on reality now....this is just sports.

The only way these players and coaches matter to most of us is how they perform - they of course have personal lives and non-football related attributes but IMO most of us (certainly me) are pretty much indifferent to that

It is great if you have a good guy like Troy to root for but I root for whomever is wearing the Black & Gold laundry - otherwise I would not have rooted for players with as much baggage in their personal lives as Santonio Holmes and Ben

So if Arians is a rotten coach that is how he ends up being defined as a person

tanda10506
01-19-2012, 06:51 PM
The only way these players and coaches matter to most of us is how they perform - they of course have personal lives and non-football related attributes but IMO most of us (certainly me) are pretty much indifferent to that

It is great if you have a good guy like Troy to root for but I root for whomever is wearing the Black & Gold laundry - otherwise I would not have rooted for players with as much baggage in their personal lives as Santonio Holmes and Ben

So if Arians is a rotten coach that is how he ends up being defined as a person

This^ I feel the same way.

Riddle, if calling him a bastard is a bit to much then I will stick to calling him a dumbass. I understand your point, but I'm not wishing death upon the guy, I just don't want him on the team.

NoFieldFive
01-19-2012, 08:17 PM
so he'd be leaving on his own and not being fired. tomlin needs to fire the guy and send a message that he really is in charge of this team and is not afraid to call the shots.

ricardisimo
01-19-2012, 08:36 PM
This^ I feel the same way.

Riddle, if calling him a bastard is a bit to much then I will stick to calling him a dumbass. I understand your point, but I'm not wishing death upon the guy, I just don't want him on the team.
No, don't try to get out of it now. We all heard you. You said:
Originally Posted by tanda10506

I wish upon him a long, painful illness... followed by death.

Those were your words. Own them.
:hatsoff:

jiminpa
01-19-2012, 08:49 PM
No, don't try to get out of it now. We all heard you. You said:


Those were your words. Own them.
:hatsoff:
I don't know the guy, and it would be difficult to despise his performance as Steelers OC as much as I do, but a friend of mine is friends with a family member of his. It's not right to wish harm on him just because he is such a horrible OC. I think he really is oblivious to his own suckiness.

tanda10506
01-19-2012, 08:56 PM
No, don't try to get out of it now. We all heard you. You said:


Those were your words. Own them.
:hatsoff:

Lmao, that must have been after the Denver game or something. No problem owning them then, if I said it at the time it's how I felt at the time, I do not wish death upon him now though. Are you sure I actually said that?

ricardisimo
01-19-2012, 09:25 PM
Lmao, that must have been after the Denver game or something. No problem owning them then, if I said it at the time it's how I felt at the time, I do not wish death upon him now though. Are you sure I actually said that?
That was a joke. Damn, you'd have to be pretty drunk and angry to forget writing words like that. :sofunny:

tanda10506
01-19-2012, 09:42 PM
That was a joke. Damn, you'd have to be pretty drunk and angry to forget writing words like that. :sofunny:

I was often both of those after games this year :rofl:

FanSince72
01-19-2012, 10:07 PM
The only way these players and coaches matter to most of us is how they perform - they of course have personal lives and non-football related attributes but IMO most of us (certainly me) are pretty much indifferent to that

It is great if you have a good guy like Troy to root for but I root for whomever is wearing the Black & Gold laundry - otherwise I would not have rooted for players with as much baggage in their personal lives as Santonio Holmes and Ben

So if Arians is a rotten coach that is how he ends up being defined as a person

That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever read.

So if being a rotten football coach defines him as a person, then he must also be a rotten father, a rotten husband, a rotten friend, a rotten neighbor and a rotten everything else?

Really?

60_MINUTES
01-19-2012, 10:24 PM
wow guys... Im with you that when I watch and all that I get so pissed at dumb play calls I lash out everything but the kitchen sink at these guys.. Tomlin is number on my list of shit comments with BA to a close second.. however If I met them on a personal level I wouldnt say they are bad people based on coaching.. I might tell them they suck as coaches but who in the world would ever tell a father he is a bad father because of the way he coached... Maybe someone that dont have kids... I got three myself and no matter what kind of piece of shit I may be.. you can bet your ass Im the best father and husband I can be.. Bringing someones family into a job is pretty stupid

ricardisimo
01-19-2012, 11:15 PM
That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever read.

So if being a rotten football coach defines him as a person, then he must also be a rotten father, a rotten husband, a rotten friend, a rotten neighbor and a rotten everything else?

Really?
Oh, please... Bruce Arians is not Atlanta Dan's husband (that we know of :jawdrop: ) or father, or neighbor, or friend. He's the crappy OC of his favorite football team, which means that to Dan he's crappy. That can't be too complicated.

FanSince72
01-20-2012, 08:00 AM
Oh, please... Bruce Arians is not Atlanta Dan's husband (that we know of :jawdrop: ) or father, or neighbor, or friend. He's the crappy OC of his favorite football team, which means that to Dan he's crappy. That can't be too complicated.

Maybe so, but that doesn't define him as a person.

It may define him as a coach, but that's it.

Whodis
01-20-2012, 08:25 AM
I'll take it!!! First time it's been considered