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mesaSteeler
01-25-2012, 07:16 AM
Steelers have QB issues for offseason
Wednesday, January 25, 2012
By Gerry Dulac, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

For the first time since he became coach in 2007, Mike Tomlin will have some issues to address at quarterback.

And not just on the depth chart.

Sure, he has to decide which veteran quarterback he wants to keep most -- Charlie Batch, 37, who compiled a 3-1 record filling in for Ben Roethlisberger the past two seasons and has been the healthiest quarterback on the roster; or Byron Leftwich, who was brought in via a trade to replace Roethlisberger for four games at the start of the 2010 season, but instead has thrown seven meaningful passes in the past 2 1/2 seasons because of injuries.

Of greater significance is how Roethlisberger will adjust to a new offensive coordinator, especially if Tomlin goes outside the organization to hire a replacement for Bruce Arians.

Roethlisberger has had to adapt to a new coordinator just once, and that was after his third season in 2007, when Arians replaced Ken Whisenhunt, who left to become head coach of the Arizona Cardinals. But the transition was smooth because Arians, the wide receivers coach, had installed much of the passing game Roethlisberger used while Whisenhunt was the coordinator.

Roethlisberger is already upset that Arians will not be back next season. His discomfort only will increase if he has to learn a new scheme with new terminology -- one of the reasons the Steelers are likely leaning toward finding their offensive coordinator in-house.

Beyond that, there are issues involving the backups.

Leftwich, Batch and Dennis Dixon are unrestricted free agents, and the Steelers will re-sign one and possibly two for next season. Dixon, a fifth-round choice in 2008, is not expected to return because he has indicated he wants to be at least a No. 2 quarterback -- something he has not been, at least on a permanent basis, with the Steelers. He did not appeared in a game this season.

The Steelers already have added two quarterbacks to their offseason roster -- former Heisman Trophy winner Troy Smith, who played for the Baltimore Ravens and is the only rookie quarterback to beat Dick LeBeau since he became defensive coordinator in 2004; and free-agent Jerrod Johnson, who played at Texas A&M.

And it is not inconceivable they could draft a quarterback in the later rounds in April, depending what decision they reach with Leftwich and/or Batch.

Batch, though, said he wants to return in 2012. And, for a player who has a history of being injury-prone, he is the only quarterback who has not missed a game because of injuries since '10.

Considered the odd-man out each of the past two seasons, Batch keeps resurfacing as the one backup to whom the Steelers have turned.

"Absolutely, I want to come back," Batch said. "The best part is, we both want to come back. Hopefully, we will get it done and things will work out."

In '10, Batch did not get a chance to compete to be the starting quarterback during Roethlisberger's suspension because Tomlin said he was concerned about his durability. Should the coach feel that way about Leftwich, who turned 32 Jan. 14?

Curiously, Leftwich was brought back via a draft-day trade in '10 to be the designated replacement for Roethlisberger, when he served a four-game suspension to start that season. But Leftwich was injured in the final preseason game and never played until the second half of the regular-season finale in Cleveland, when he completed 7 of 9 passes.

This year, he broke his left arm above the elbow in the preseason and was placed on injured reserve. Leftwich hasn't played a full game since Week 3 of the'09 season when he was with Tampa Bay. He is the only one of the four quarterbacks who hasn't started a game for the Steelers.

Just one more issue with which Tomlin has to contend.

Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/12025/1205736-66-0.stm#ixzz1kTIlyJXZ

FanSince72
01-25-2012, 10:32 AM
So why not give Dixon what he wants and make him the official #2 QB?

Leftwitch is too injury prone and Batch is 37 and not getting any younger.
If we have the opportunity to sign one or both, then sign Dixon with the promise of no less than a #2 spot.

And once again, if we focus on keeping the O-line healthy, a lot of the so-called "QB issues" diminish considerably. In that regard, maybe worrying about QB's isn't the issue and perhaps evaluating the training staff and training procedures and fixing what may be broken might prove to be a better use of Tomlin's time.

truesteelerfan
01-25-2012, 02:21 PM
So why not give Dixon what he wants and make him the official #2 QB?

Leftwitch is too injury prone and Batch is 37 and not getting any younger.
If we have the opportunity to sign one or both, then sign Dixon with the promise of no less than a #2 spot.

And once again, if we focus on keeping the O-line healthy, a lot of the so-called "QB issues" diminish considerably. In that regard, maybe worrying about QB's isn't the issue and perhaps evaluating the training staff and training procedures and fixing what may be broken might prove to be a better use of Tomlin's time.

I agree with you.....Dixon #2, plus a draft pick, FA or possibly Troy Smith as our #3. Done deal IMO.

6RingsAndCounting
01-25-2012, 03:54 PM
I wouldn't say this is the first QB issue he's had to address. Ben being suspended for 4 games was a pretty big issue.

xbroughneck
01-25-2012, 04:11 PM
What is wrong with Batch returning? Steelers have proven they can win with a 37 year old running the offense. He has no wear and tear on his body.

FanSince72
01-25-2012, 04:38 PM
What is wrong with Batch returning? Steelers have proven they can win with a 37 year old running the offense. He has no wear and tear on his body.

Front Offices deal in numbers and I don't think a 37-year-old backup would be what they'd want.
If they're looking long-term, then Dixon (at 27) would likely be a better choice because if they lock him down, they're good for many years to come.

Personally, I have no problem with Batch at all as a backup; he knows the team and the system very well.
It could even be said that since he hasn't been taking a beating as a starter all these years, his body is probably more like that of a twentysomething than a guy of 37.
So if the Rooney's don't care about calendar years, then I'd love to see Batch stick around.

DanRooney
01-25-2012, 04:48 PM
Why not make Dixon the #2 quarterback? Because he sucks. I know it, the coaching staff knows it, but some delusional people don't.

Bayz101
01-25-2012, 04:57 PM
Why not make Dixon the #2 quarterback? Because he sucks. I know it, the coaching staff knows it, but some delusional people don't.

Troy Smith is basically everything Dixon isn't. Troy can throw the ball well, and run. He's a great leader and a Heisman winner. And i'm a buckeye fan so do your own research, i'm a homer :chuckle:

stb_steeler
01-25-2012, 05:01 PM
Troy Smith is basically everything Dixon isn't. Troy can throw the ball well, and run. He's a great leader and a Heisman winner. And i'm a buckeye fan so do your own research, i'm a homer :chuckle:

No offense, but why isnt he still with Baltimore if hes that good? (just askin)

Bayz101
01-25-2012, 05:05 PM
No offense, but why isnt he still with Baltimore if hes that good? (just askin)

Baltimore drafted Flacco as their franchise quarterback. Troy Smith beat us with Baltimore a few years ago, and then he went to San Francisco and did a great job.

TD-INT 8-5
Passing yards 1,734
QB Rating 78.5

That's pretty damn good backup numbers for a guy who rarely gets the opportunity to play :noidea:

Bayz101
01-25-2012, 05:07 PM
Dixon's numbers:

TD-INT 1-2
Passing yards 402
QB Rating 71.4

FanSince72
01-25-2012, 05:07 PM
Why not make Dixon the #2 quarterback? Because he sucks. I know it, the coaching staff knows it, but some delusional people don't.

And you know this, how?

Dixon has thrown a grand total of 59 passes in his first three seasons (some QB's today throw that many passes in one game!) and he didn't play at all this last season.

So how in the world could you possibly know whether he sucks or not?

Fire Arians
01-25-2012, 05:35 PM
dixon hasn't proven he's worthy of the #2 spot. trade him.

DanRooney
01-25-2012, 06:03 PM
And you know this, how?

Dixon has thrown a grand total of 59 passes in his first three seasons (some QB's today throw that many passes in one game!) and he didn't play at all this last season.

So how in the world could you possibly know whether he sucks or not?

I've watched him start 2 games and was on the verge of booing him off the field against the Titans when he took that sack fumble that was returned for a touchdown.

He can't throw, he can't read defenses, he's too small, and his running ability isn't even that great. For god's sake he can't throw.

Bayz101
01-25-2012, 06:15 PM
I've watched him start 2 games and was on the verge of booing him off the field against the Titans when he took that sack fumble that was returned for a touchdown.

He can't throw, he can't read defenses, he's too small, and his running ability isn't even that great. For god's sake he can't throw.

He's an awful over the middle passer, and really an awful passer all around. I think Troy will take his spot, and maybe Lefty's spot if he can't stay healthy. Troy's got the legs, the arm and the accuracy, but he's most certainly lacking the height (6'0)

But hey, look at Brees?

DanRooney
01-25-2012, 06:18 PM
He's an awful over the middle passer, and really an awful passer all around. I think Troy will take his spot, and maybe Lefty's spot if he can't stay healthy. Troy's got the legs, the arm and the accuracy, but he's most certainly lacking the height (6'0)

But hey, look at Brees?

I agree, Troy Smith will take his spot. He's not that great of a passer either imo but light years ahead of Dixon. I think Leftwich will still be the #2 assuming his arm is 100 percent.

Bayz101
01-25-2012, 06:24 PM
So right now, in my opinion, it's looking like this:

#1 Ben Roethlisberger
#2 Byron Leftwhich
#3 Troy Smith
#4 Jerrod Johnson

Then again, Batch may be back?

Fire Arians
01-25-2012, 06:40 PM
So right now, in my opinion, it's looking like this:

#1 Ben Roethlisberger
#2 Byron Leftwhich
#3 Troy Smith
#4 Jerrod Johnson

Then again, Batch may be back?

either batch or leftwich is gonna be gone. lefty has been injured in the last 2 years and batch is getting a little long in the tooth.

troy smith was a good addition and should be serviceable as a #2 or #3 qb. I'm surprised he hasn't been picked up earlier by someone as a backup after his year in san fran. he's definitely better than dixon

FrancoLambert
01-25-2012, 06:56 PM
#1 - Ben
#2 - Leftwich (which means he will be quickly injured, preseason maybe, and rendered useles).
#3 - Troy Smith (will be elevated to a functional #2)
#4 - with the injury to Chipwich, Charley will be signed as #3

FORGET DENNIS DIXON. WATCH HIM THROW THE BALL. ANY ACCURACY?

tanda10506
01-25-2012, 11:50 PM
Why not make Dixon the #2 quarterback? Because he sucks. I know it, the coaching staff knows it, but some delusional people don't.

I have never seen a qb throw it into the dirt as much as Dixon, HORRIBLE passer. Ben is our starter and a tough one, if Batch goes then Leftwhich is #2 and Smith is #3. Thats about the furthest from qb problems as you can get.

Riddle_Of_Steel
01-26-2012, 04:40 AM
So why not give Dixon what he wants and make him the official #2 QB?

Because he sucks dong.

Seriously, the only passer in the NFL that I have personally seen that throws more inaccurate passes than Dixon is Mark Sanchez....but hey, one team was dumb enough to think he was starter material, so maybe Dixon can find his fortune elsewhere in the NFL too.

Bayz101
01-26-2012, 04:47 AM
Let's pick up Tebow :chuckle:

ricardisimo
01-26-2012, 06:10 AM
dixon hasn't proven he's worthy of the #2 spot. trade him.
Trade him? He's an UFA. How about just let him walk? He is also really, really bad, and getting worse, which is - again - why I'm concerned about Randy Fichtner's ability to coach. You would think that if he were that good that Ben would have progressed more than he has and Dixon's career would be salvageable. But no.

Personally, I think Lefty is gone, Batch will stay, #3 most likely, with Troy or a draft pick at #2.

Bayz101
01-26-2012, 06:14 AM
Ben
Batch
Smith
(Jerrod) Johnson?

I guess that's not too far-fetched.

Fire Arians
01-26-2012, 11:40 AM
Let's pick up Tebow :chuckle:

ben would teach him how to lose his virginity :chuckle:

vasteeler
01-26-2012, 11:57 AM
i can think of at least 10 teams with QB issues......the steelers are not one of them

LayingTheWoodley56
01-26-2012, 05:43 PM
why not make smith the back-up and keep batch on as the third? he knows our offense front and back, he's like another coach out there.

ricardisimo
01-26-2012, 05:52 PM
why not make smith the back-up and keep batch on as the third? he knows our offense front and back, he's like another coach out there.
That's exactly my prediction.