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PATS16N0
01-25-2012, 10:12 AM
This situation in Indianapolis is more dangerous for the Colts organization than I think a lot of people realize. Colts fans are pretty attached to their beloved Peyton Manning (for whatever reason!), and I mean fanatical. They are loyal to this man.

On the surface the `smart` move with an eye to the future might seem to be to let Manning go and draft Luck as the future of the organization. However, that isn't going to sit well with Indianapolis fans who don't want to see Manning discarded like yesterday's trash.

I think this is going to cause an earthquake in Indy no matter what happens but in the worst case scenario, if Manning goes elsewhere and performs and Luck turns out to be the second coming of Ryan Leaf... I bet you can kiss the Indianapolis Colts good bye. The hate Indy fans will have for their own organization will be so deep and so profound it will KILL the organization.

Wouldn't surprise me if it leads to the Colts leaving the area for a new city and a fresh start.

If Peyton Manning's health will allow him to play I think you have to stick with your quarterback in this situation and let Luck go.

Atlanta Dan
01-25-2012, 10:40 AM
NFL teams switch cities when they cannot get a stadium deal done

Colts just moved into Lucas Oil Stadium (and the city of Indianapolis was rewarded for that by hosting a Super Bowl)

Rams, Minnesota and Jax are the likely suspects to go to LA

ItalianSteelersFan178443
01-25-2012, 12:41 PM
There is no chance in HELL that the Colts move to LA ever. They got a new stadium like Atlanta Dan said above and they are also financially stable. Irsay has money in the bank and wouldn't dare moving that team away from Indy. They sold out every home game this season even as a 2-14 team. If a team moves to LA it will be either Jax or St. Louis. This is just a dumb post overall

stb_steeler
01-25-2012, 01:04 PM
Where do some of you come up with this stuff....:doh:

Ricco Suavez
01-25-2012, 04:30 PM
I can see why they love Peyton, he has led his team to one SuperBowl win and another time against the Saints. He did this without "tuck rule help" 'shady video" and a clutch kicker who actually won three Superbowls for another team. Lastly when he went down for the season you see what happened to his team, while when Brady went down a new QB stepped into the "system" and won what 10-12 games. BTW that new QB has not looked so good elsewhere.

BigRick
01-25-2012, 04:34 PM
This situation in Indianapolis is more dangerous for the Colts organization than I think a lot of people realize. Colts fans are pretty attached to their beloved Peyton Manning (for whatever reason!), and I mean fanatical. They are loyal to this man.

On the surface the `smart` move with an eye to the future might seem to be to let Manning go and draft Luck as the future of the organization. However, that isn't going to sit well with Indianapolis fans who don't want to see Manning discarded like yesterday's trash.

I think this is going to cause an earthquake in Indy no matter what happens but in the worst case scenario, if Manning goes elsewhere and performs and Luck turns out to be the second coming of Ryan Leaf... I bet you can kiss the Indianapolis Colts good bye. The hate Indy fans will have for their own organization will be so deep and so profound it will KILL the organization.

Wouldn't surprise me if it leads to the Colts leaving the area for a new city and a fresh start.

If Peyton Manning's health will allow him to play I think you have to stick with your quarterback in this situation and let Luck go.

I live north of Indy, and if Manning can pass his uocoming physical he isn't goin anywhere. The Dolts say they are going to draft Luck (if he doesn't pull an Elway or Eli Manning crying jag). Face it Manning is going to be 36 in March so he doesn't have many years left. If they win with Luck the fans will be happy.:helmet:

Ricco Suavez
01-25-2012, 05:01 PM
Big Rick I am glad someone besides me remembers Elway threatening to play baseball if drafted by the Colts, or Eli and papa Archie saying he would sit out for a year if drafted by the Chargers. The draft is in place to try to help the bottom teams improve and this kind of shenanigans could undermine the whole draft. What if a player like Troy from the west coast had just flat refused to be a Steeler. I mean haggling over money is one thing but coming from college and making terms on where you want to play without any tenure, might as well be baseball where the highest bidder wins.

BigRick
01-25-2012, 07:15 PM
Big Rick I am glad someone besides me remembers Elway threatening to play baseball if drafted by the Colts, or Eli and papa Archie saying he would sit out for a year if drafted by the Chargers. The draft is in place to try to help the bottom teams improve and this kind of shenanigans could undermine the whole draft. What if a player like Troy from the west coast had just flat refused to be a Steeler. I mean haggling over money is one thing but coming from college and making terms on where you want to play without any tenure, might as well be baseball where the highest bidder wins.

Yeah ain't it a bitch, going to get handed millions and want to cry about who is going to draft you. Peyton went to the Dolts when they were one of the worst teams in the NFL without a whimper. I'm definitely not a fan of his but I respect him for being a man and going where he was drafted. But little brother didn't want to go to S D. :thumbsup:

BigRick
01-25-2012, 07:27 PM
I can see why they love Peyton, he has led his team to one SuperBowl win and another time against the Saints. He did this without "tuck rule help" 'shady video" and a clutch kicker who actually won three Superbowls for another team. Lastly when he went down for the season you see what happened to his team, while when Brady went down a new QB stepped into the "system" and won what 10-12 games. BTW that new QB has not looked so good elsewhere.

Actually the Dolts had the most accurate kicker in the NFL at the time. Granted it was laregly due to kicking indoors most of the time. But he wasn't as good a clutch kicker as Vinatieri, plus he shot off his mouth about Manning and goodbye Vanderjagt. Remember his kick in the AFC playoffs against the Steelers he chocked and missed the game tying fg in his home stadium. Should have never got that far, but they stole Polamalu's interception. Bad call on review.:helmet:

steeltheone
01-25-2012, 09:22 PM
Im not sure you would not want Manning to mentor Luck for several years. Seems like a win win to me?

Atlanta Dan
01-25-2012, 09:26 PM
Im not sure you would not want Manning to mentor Luck for several years. Seems like a win win to me?

Can't afford it with the bonus Peyton is due in early March

tony hipchest
01-25-2012, 09:46 PM
Im not sure you would not want Manning to mentor Luck for several years. Seems like a win win to me?thats pretty easy for jim caldwell or the polians to say when they are not the ones who signed the check for $26,000,000 last year and facing signing another for $28,000,000 in march for a player who may not even be able to play.

unfortunately they are no longer around and jim irsay will be making the final decision. when youre the check writer, the decision to cut ties suddenly becomes an easy one.

if manning wants to come back for 4 mil to be mentor, im pretty certain the team owner would be willing to listen...

BigRick
01-25-2012, 10:10 PM
Can't afford it with the bonus Peyton is due in early March

The Dolts have already stated that they could afford both.:helmet:

BigRick
01-25-2012, 10:24 PM
thats pretty easy for jim caldwell or the polians to say when they are not the ones who signed the check for $26,000,000 last year and facing signing another for $28,000,000 in march for a player who may not even be able to play.

unfortunately they are no longer around and jim irsay will be making the final decision. when youre the check writer, the decision to cut ties suddenly becomes an easy one.

if manning wants to come back for 4 mil to be mentor, im pretty certain the team owner would be willing to listen...

Actually the bonus is due next month. They're talking about delaying or re working the bonus if he can't pass physical. If the Dolts draft Luck, like they're saying they will, Manning will probably be gone in a couple of years.:helmet:

PATS16N0
01-25-2012, 10:57 PM
Didn't Manning's father say he talks with Luck's father and knows Luck and Manning don't want to be on the same team?

I'm pretty sure i've read numerous times that Luck wants to go to a team where he'll be a starting quarterback week 1, not sit in the shadows behind a quarterback who doesn't even allow his back ups to take a single snap in practice.

tony hipchest
01-25-2012, 11:25 PM
Actually the bonus is due next month. They're talking about delaying or re working the bonus if he can't pass physical. If the Dolts draft Luck, like they're saying they will, Manning will probably be gone in a couple of years.:helmet:if im jim irsay i pretty much see the obvious- "my club isnt making a SB run in '12 especially since i just blew up the FO and coaching staff. i can pay an extra $28 mil to not go to the superbowl, or reallocate those funds and build towards hopefully going to the sb sooner."

i think he is going to cut ties, hope luck is his next manning, and roll with the less expensive consequenses if he is not.

ricardisimo
01-26-2012, 04:56 AM
if im jim irsay i pretty much see the obvious- "my club isnt making a SB run in '12 especially since i just blew up the FO and coaching staff. i can pay an extra $28 mil to not go to the superbowl, or reallocate those funds and build towards hopefully going to the sb sooner."

i think he is going to cut ties, hope luck is his next manning, and roll with the less expensive consequenses if he is not.
The talking heads at ESPN seem to agree with you, at least from what I could glean while at the gym this morning. Suddenly all of that talk about signing Manning to be Ben's backup became... oh, never mind, it's still crack-pipe stupid.

BigRick
01-26-2012, 09:30 AM
if im jim irsay i pretty much see the obvious- "my club isnt making a SB run in '12 especially since i just blew up the FO and coaching staff. i can pay an extra $28 mil to not go to the superbowl, or reallocate those funds and build towards hopefully going to the sb sooner."

i think he is going to cut ties, hope luck is his next manning, and roll with the less expensive consequenses if he is not.

Hey man I agree with you. I'm just putting out what they are saying on the local news. I don't know why Irsay stuck with the Polians as long as he did. :helmet:

MasterOfPuppets
01-26-2012, 02:36 PM
if im jim irsay i pretty much see the obvious- "my club isnt making a SB run in '12 especially since i just blew up the FO and coaching staff. i can pay an extra $28 mil to not go to the superbowl, or reallocate those funds and build towards hopefully going to the sb sooner."

i think he is going to cut ties, hope luck is his next manning, and roll with the less expensive consequenses if he is not.
exactly. the colts need to go into rebuild mode. you don't pay a high price for a house that needs completely remodeled...:noidea:
reggie wayne and robert mathis both are UFA in march.
dwight freeney is a 19 mill cap hit in 2012

Atlanta Dan
01-26-2012, 06:19 PM
Actually the bonus is due next month. They're talking about delaying or re working the bonus if he can't pass physical. If the Dolts draft Luck, like they're saying they will, Manning will probably be gone in a couple of years.:helmet:

Manning is gone now

Two days after Peyton Manning publicly complained about the dour atmosphere at team headquarters following a 2-14 season and a rash of firings, Colts owner Jim Irsay introduced his new head coach and then stunned everyone by calling his franchise player a "politician" who had decided to air dirty laundry.

"I don't think it's in the best interest to paint the horseshoe in a negative light, I really don't," Irsay told reporters, referring to the team's longtime logo. "The horseshoe always comes first, and I think one thing he's always known, because he's been around it so long, is that, you know, you keep it in the family. If you've got a problem you talk to each other, it's not about campaigning or anything like that."

The comments suggest there is a rift between Manning and Irsay, who is just six weeks from a deadline to pay the four-time league MVP a $28 million bonus or risk losing him as a free agent. And it all blew up in public on a day the team wanted attention focused on Chuck Pagano, the Ravens' defensive coordinator who takes over as head coach with a host of problems to address.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7507255/indianapolis-colts-jim-irsay-upset-peyton-manning-went-public-comments

PATS16N0
01-26-2012, 09:13 PM
Well... that's that then. The end of an era... No more dominating Manning's Colts in the AFC. I won't miss him. If he goes to the NFC and fades into obscurity or retires I won't shed a tear. He'd a good QB but I always considered him to be a selfish player, a whiner, and overrated when it counts.

The only reason he ever got even one Superbowl ring is because in 2006 the Patriots stripped their offense down to nothing.

tony hipchest
01-26-2012, 10:29 PM
The only reason he ever got even one Superbowl ring is because in 2006 the Patriots stripped their offense down to nothing.well the rest of the world has their own theory about that. tom brady wouldnt have even gotten to, let alone won 3 out of 4 championship games w/o adam vinatieri. colts get him, manning wins, brady loses.

manning will thead the dolphins to the afc east crown next year. :chuckle:

Bayz101
01-26-2012, 10:59 PM
well the rest of the world has their own theory about that. tom brady wouldnt have even gotten to, let alone won 3 out of 4 championship games w/o adam vinatieri. colts get him, manning wins, brady loses.

manning will thead the dolphins to the afc east crown next year. :chuckle:

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