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former RB
01-25-2012, 03:44 PM
There are a few people around here that can remember Terry Bradshaw making you cry. Either tears of joy or grief. Bradshaw had a deep abiding love for throwing into double and triple coverage. I think he was all about having fun and taking chances out there. Winning and losing was never life and dath for him.

I think that Terry had a rocky relationship with Steeler fans because we were life and death and he wasn't. We had a failure to communicate.

Over the years, we both learned lessons.

Bradshaw stayed close to the game. His football mind evolved with the game.

I think it would be great if Bradshaw would come back to the Burg as an OC for about 5 years, and allow us to build a relationship with him that we never had.

Bradshaw could design an offense that used Bens strengths. Brad is getting old. Time is running out on him and us. It is a shame that the Bradshaw/ Steeler fan relationship was so bitter for so long.

If I was Mr.Rooney, I would ask Chuck Noll to go with him to talk to Bradshaw about becoming the new OC, and offer him 10 million over 5 years.

I think Bradshaw would go for it. In a lot of ways, it would be a good thing.

Bradshaw would do a good job. He has a good feel for the game.

But then, if I was Mr. Rooney, i would ask Dorsett or Harris to be the running back coach, and Marino to be the QB coach, Joe Green to be the D line coach, and ...........I wonder if Lynn Swann would like to coach. And what Greg Lloyd, Mel Blount, Lambert?

Are great players lousy coachs, or are our owners lousy owners?

skinart82
01-25-2012, 03:53 PM
Mike Singletary........That's all

TRH
01-25-2012, 03:54 PM
Great player in his day....but would make an AWFUL coach. He's happy anyways doing what he's doing and makes a good salary doing so.

FanSince72
01-25-2012, 03:56 PM
There are a few people around here that can remember Terry Bradshaw making you cry. Either tears of joy or grief. Bradshaw had a deep abiding love for throwing into double and triple coverage. I think he was all about having fun and taking chances out there. Winning and losing was never life and dath for him.

I think that Terry had a rocky relationship with Steeler fans because we were life and death and he wasn't. We had a failure to communicate.

Over the years, we both learned lessons.

Bradshaw stayed close to the game. His football mind evolved with the game.

I think it would be great if Bradshaw would come back to the Burg as an OC for about 5 years, and allow us to build a relationship with him that we never had.

Bradshaw could design an offense that used Bens strengths. Brad is getting old. Time is running out on him and us. It is a shame that the Bradshaw/ Steeler fan relationship was so bitter for so long.

If I was Mr.Rooney, I would ask Chuck Noll to go with him to talk to Bradshaw about becoming the new OC, and offer him 10 million over 5 years.

I think Bradshaw would go for it. In a lot of ways, it would be a good thing.

Bradshaw would do a good job. He has a good feel for the game.

But then, if I was Mr. Rooney, i would ask Dorsett or Harris to be the running back coach, and Marino to be the QB coach, Joe Green to be the D line coach, and ...........I wonder if Lynn Swann would like to coach. And what Greg Lloyd, Mel Blount, Lambert?

Are great players lousy coachs, or are our owners lousy owners?


What I loved about Bradshaw was that he just loved to play and he loved to throw the ball.

He wasn't a "systems" guy and he didn't care much for being told what to do. Historically, when you look at his stats, he hardly appears in the "Top 5" or even "Top 10" in most of the so-called "important" categories.

But if ever there was a MONEY player in the NFL - he was it and I still think of him as the best QB I've ever seen.

As far as whether or not he'd make a good OC, he probably wouldn't. But I totally understand where you're coming from and he WOULD be someone who could understand Ben because in many ways, when I look at Ben, I see Bradshaw.

Bayz101
01-25-2012, 04:00 PM
I really don't think Terry would make a great coach, but I respect him as a player. As for Singeltary: Say what you want about the guy, he was probably the best no-shit kind of guy i'd seen coach in a while. I absolutely loved it when he benched his player because of his attitude.

jiminpa
01-25-2012, 04:04 PM
There are a few people around here that can remember Terry Bradshaw making you cry. Either tears of joy or grief. Bradshaw had a deep abiding love for throwing into double and triple coverage. I think he was all about having fun and taking chances out there. Winning and losing was never life and dath for him.

I think that Terry had a rocky relationship with Steeler fans because we were life and death and he wasn't. We had a failure to communicate.

Over the years, we both learned lessons.

Bradshaw stayed close to the game. His football mind evolved with the game.

I think it would be great if Bradshaw would come back to the Burg as an OC for about 5 years, and allow us to build a relationship with him that we never had.

Bradshaw could design an offense that used Bens strengths. Brad is getting old. Time is running out on him and us. It is a shame that the Bradshaw/ Steeler fan relationship was so bitter for so long.

If I was Mr.Rooney, I would ask Chuck Noll to go with him to talk to Bradshaw about becoming the new OC, and offer him 10 million over 5 years.

I think Bradshaw would go for it. In a lot of ways, it would be a good thing.

Bradshaw would do a good job. He has a good feel for the game.

But then, if I was Mr. Rooney, i would ask Dorsett or Harris to be the running back coach, and Marino to be the QB coach, Joe Green to be the D line coach, and ...........I wonder if Lynn Swann would like to coach. And what Greg Lloyd, Mel Blount, Lambert?

Are great players lousy coachs, or are our owners lousy owners?Some former players make great coaches, and others don't, or wouldn't. Lynn Swann's athleticism is not something he could teach, and that was pretty much his game. Bradshaw is pretty dyslexic, which is why it took the game so long to slow down for him, and why once it did he was the perfect guy to implement Noll's offense on the field. It also means his understanding of the game is as subconscious as it is conscious, and he won't be able to impart that very well. Add with that his personality and Ben's ego, and he is the absolute last OC you want on the Steelers sideline.

Ricco Suavez
01-25-2012, 04:06 PM
I am old enough (54) to remember Terry well. If the internet was around in the 70's he would of been belittled worse than Ben. I loved him, he threw the prettiest long ball I believe ever but he took chances and made some errors that left you shaking your head. Hey the first two SuperBowls where truly defensive wins. The latter two he had come into his own and were more offensive.

stb_steeler
01-25-2012, 04:08 PM
I am old enough (54) to remember Terry well. If the internet was around in the 70's he would of been belittled worse than Ben. I loved him, he threw the prettiest long ball I believe ever but he took chances and made some errors that left you shaking your head. Hey the first two SuperBowls where truly defensive wins. The latter two he had come into his own and were more offensive.

It really was fun watching Terry back in the day. I still dig out the video and watch em now an then and wonder how in the hell did he make that throw.....:wink02:

jiminpa
01-25-2012, 04:08 PM
What I loved about Bradshaw was that he just loved to play and he loved to throw the ball.

He wasn't a "systems" guy and he didn't care much for being told what to do. Historically, when you look at his stats, he hardly appears in the "Top 5" or even "Top 10" in most of the so-called "important" categories.

But if ever there was a MONEY player in the NFL - he was it and I still think of him as the best QB I've ever seen.

As far as whether or not he'd make a good OC, he probably wouldn't. But I totally understand where you're coming from and he WOULD be someone who could understand Ben because in many ways, when I look at Ben, I see Bradshaw.Ben would have to start watching film to advance to be worthy of being Bradshaw's laundry boy.

jiminpa
01-25-2012, 04:11 PM
It really was fun watching Terry back in the day. I still dig out the video and watch em now an then and wonder how in the hell did he make that throw.....:wink02:
Some of his throws defied physics, but the receivers knew where the defense was by Bradshaw's throws when he was on.

FanSince72
01-25-2012, 04:12 PM
Ben would have to start watching film to advance to be worthy of being Bradshaw's laundry boy.

That's funny because they said the same kind of things about Bradshaw, back in the day.

The only thing Ben doesn't have is Bradshaw's long ball. But from a philosophical and personality standpoint, they're almost identical.

stb_steeler
01-25-2012, 04:15 PM
That's funny because they said the same kind of things about Bradshaw, back in the day.

The only thing Ben doesn't have is Bradshaw's long ball. But from a philosophical and personality standpoint, they're almost identical.

Oh no.....Bens not getting a gig with FOX is he?.....:rofl:

FanSince72
01-25-2012, 04:20 PM
Oh no.....Bens not getting a gig with FOX is he?.....:rofl:

The only reason Terry is there is because he can SAY "Fox", unlike CBS or NBC where he'd have to spell out the name. :sofunny:

stb_steeler
01-25-2012, 04:20 PM
The only reason Terry is there is because he can SAY "Fox", unlike CBS or NBC where he'd have to spell it. :sofunny:

Hey now....easy!!! lol

BigRick
01-25-2012, 04:24 PM
I am old enough (54) to remember Terry well. If the internet was around in the 70's he would of been belittled worse than Ben. I loved him, he threw the prettiest long ball I believe ever but he took chances and made some errors that left you shaking your head. Hey the first two SuperBowls where truly defensive wins. The latter two he had come into his own and were more offensive.

I can remember when they drafted him and you're right. They called him the dumbest QB in the NFL can't imagine what it would have been like with the internet. I used to get so mad if I could have gotten to him I could have chocked him. But then he would unleash that cannon of an arm and leave me wondering how the hell did he make that throw. :tt03:

jiminpa
01-25-2012, 04:24 PM
That's funny because they said the same kind of things about Bradshaw, back in the day.

The only thing Ben doesn't have is Bradshaw's long ball. But from a philosophical and personality standpoint, they're almost identical.
Bradshaw has a brain, and never minded handing the ball off. Yeah, he loved to throw the ball, but he learned to be a team player, and was all about the win. He actually took hits in the stats to win games, and was happy to do it for the "W." You can't get any further from BR in philosophy and still be talking about football. Aside from preferring to throw the ball, and their toughness, they don't have anything else in common. Bradshaw had earned the right to keep his inflated ego and learned humility, BR got graduate's track in humility and kept his ego.

BigRick
01-25-2012, 04:25 PM
The only reason Terry is there is because he can SAY "Fox", unlike CBS or NBC where he'd have to spell out the name. :sofunny:

Now that is some funny shit!:rofl:

jiminpa
01-25-2012, 04:38 PM
The only reason Terry is there is because he can SAY "Fox", unlike CBS or NBC where he'd have to spell out the name. :sofunny:He might transpose the letters.

Ricco Suavez
01-25-2012, 04:38 PM
Ben would have to start watching film to advance to be worthy of being Bradshaw's laundry boy.

Man I watched both and like I said I loved TB, but the Steelers of the 70's had the best line in the NFL and the best Defense possibly ever and he had two extremely gifted receivers and a hoss of a back. I mean the rules did not favor the offense like today and the defense could actually hit a QB but YOU just do not appreciate what we have now at QB. Terry excelled on the long ball, something that Ben does not but I think Ben in that era would of been just as good IF not even better. I do not like to compare different era's but since you automatically put TB that much higher than Ben I just had to post.

TRH
01-25-2012, 05:10 PM
I am old enough (54) to remember Terry well. If the internet was around in the 70's he would of been belittled worse than Ben. I loved him, he threw the prettiest long ball I believe ever but he took chances and made some errors that left you shaking your head. Hey the first two SuperBowls where truly defensive wins. The latter two he had come into his own and were more offensive.



i'm not quite that old, but i've read alot....and i do know that Terry was pretty much called the dumbest idiot so much it was relentless. By fans, media, and opposing players alike.
You think Ben gets called for making mistakes?? It's nothing compared to what Bradshaw went through.

former RB
01-25-2012, 05:24 PM
Bradshaw just made really bad decisions. He felt like he could throw into any window, and if there was no window, he figured Swanny or Stallworth would make the play.
I think Bradshaw would like to get one for his thumb.
He mellowed enough to do the OC job.
The OC only has to design the offensive plays, and coach it to precision.
It is a shame that we let so many homegrown guys play elsewhere and not even use their talent after their playing days. I think Dorsett would make a great RB coach because he played in a complicated offense under Landry. Marino is a homeboy without a ring, he could coach QB and get a ring as a coach.
Joe Greene could teach a young D lineman a thing or two.

Guys who never played the NFL game can draw X's and O's, but the effort required to win is a mystery unbtil you climbed that mountain. thats why there are lots of mountain climbers, but few can talk about the view from atop everest.

Bradshaw isn't rich by anyones standard. I've heard that he is always struggling financially. He might make 25K a week for 20 weeks for Fox, but I think he would be worth paying twice that as an OC. He would surely like one for the thumb.

FanSince72
01-25-2012, 05:44 PM
Bradshaw has a brain, and never minded handing the ball off. Yeah, he loved to throw the ball, but he learned to be a team player, and was all about the win. He actually took hits in the stats to win games, and was happy to do it for the "W." You can't get any further from BR in philosophy and still be talking about football. Aside from preferring to throw the ball, and their toughness, they don't have anything else in common. Bradshaw had earned the right to keep his inflated ego and learned humility, BR got graduate's track in humility and kept his ego.

I can't agree.

Bradshaw often ran the ball himself and almost always went head-first into defenders

So does Ben.

Bradshaw would often scramble to the last possible moment looking for an open receiver

So deos Ben.

Bradshaw often took a pounding in the pocket waiting for just the right moment to let the ball go

So does Ben

The only difference I see (besides the long ball) is that Bradshaw called most of his own plays and because he did, he didn't have to feature himself all the time because he knew that in the course of a game he'd get his chances. Ben only calls plays himself in the hurry-up and yes, his ego tends to put passing first over running. But I'd bet that if Ben called the plays for an entire game, he'd hand the ball off a lot more than you'd think, for the same reasons Bradshaw did.

Let's not forget that Bradshaw rode the pine quite a bit in his early years mainly because he didn't behave himself either and it was only after a few seasons that Noll began to trust him enough to let him handle things.

One of the first things I thought to myself when I first saw Ben play was how much like Bradshaw he seemed and I still feel that way. Ben has some growing up to do but like I've always said, if he was 3-inches shorter and wore a number 12, it would be hard to tell the difference between him and Bradshaw.

In many ways, Ben is a throwback. I think if he played in the era when teams were governed by a single head coach and the league wasn't so wrapped up in "Coordinators" and he was allowed to call his own game and learn from his mistakes, he would have thrived just as Bradshaw did. Coordinators are fine for QB's that fit a certain mold but for guys like Ben, it's difficult if not impossible for anyone to really get inside his head and know what's really going on to the point where they can manage him.

I think it would be interesting to see what would happen if they let go of the reins and allowed Ben to call his own game.
I'd bet that it would work out a lot better than anyone might think.

Ricco Suavez
01-25-2012, 05:56 PM
i'm not quite that old, but i've read alot....and i do know that Terry was pretty much called the dumbest idiot so much it was relentless. By fans, media, and opposing players alike.
You think Ben gets called for making mistakes?? It's nothing compared to what Bradshaw went through.

I agree and if Ben and Terry somehow traded time eras I believe Terry would be crucified on these boards (at least the years we did not win a SuperBowl):chuckle:

zcoop
01-25-2012, 08:41 PM
Bradshaw had someone to push him. He was second string in '74 behind Joe Gilliam until being named the starter. Ben has total security. TB was a gunslinger.

OOps, I forgot about the work stoppage. Thats why he wasn't starting that season. But TB still was a fearless passer.

tony hipchest
01-25-2012, 10:12 PM
There are a few people around here that can remember Terry Bradshaw making you cry. Either tears of joy or grief. Bradshaw had a deep abiding love for throwing into double and triple coverage. I think he was all about having fun and taking chances out there. Winning and losing was never life and dath for him.

I think that Terry had a rocky relationship with Steeler fans because we were life and death and he wasn't. We had a failure to communicate.

Over the years, we both learned lessons.

Bradshaw stayed close to the game. His football mind evolved with the game.

I think it would be great if Bradshaw would come back to the Burg as an OC for about 5 years, and allow us to build a relationship with him that we never had.

Bradshaw could design an offense that used Bens strengths. Brad is getting old. Time is running out on him and us. It is a shame that the Bradshaw/ Steeler fan relationship was so bitter for so long.

If I was Mr.Rooney, I would ask Chuck Noll to go with him to talk to Bradshaw about becoming the new OC, and offer him 10 million over 5 years.

I think Bradshaw would go for it. In a lot of ways, it would be a good thing.

Bradshaw would do a good job. He has a good feel for the game.

But then, if I was Mr. Rooney, i would ask Dorsett or Harris to be the running back coach, and Marino to be the QB coach, Joe Green to be the D line coach, and ...........I wonder if Lynn Swann would like to coach. And what Greg Lloyd, Mel Blount, Lambert?

Are great players lousy coachs, or are our owners lousy owners?this is a joke thread right?

do you even know what condition chuck noll is in nowadays? it isnt good.

why dont we just hire joe paterno to be OC? he's currently unemployed.

terry has about as much business coaching as he does cattle ranching. he has finally maximized his earning potential and his business sense has reached its peak. he gets paid more than 2 mil/year for nothing more than cracking jokes about himself, being silly and talking some ball.

maybe we should just hire metallica and lady gaga to exclusively highlight 8 home game half time shows. i bet we could affor 4 million for that.

jack lelane can be our strength and conditioning coach.

maybe mr rogers can lead the team in pre-game prayers.

we should also buy the elephant mans corpse at auction to display besides the 6 lombardi trophies for inspiration.

ricardisimo
01-25-2012, 11:22 PM
this is a joke thread right?

do you even know what condition chuck noll is in nowadays? it isnt good.

why dont we just hire joe paterno to be OC? he's currently unemployed.

terry has about as much business coaching as he does cattle ranching. he has finally maximized his earning potential and his business sense has reached its peak. he gets paid more than 2 mil/year for nothing more than cracking jokes about himself, being silly and talking some ball.

maybe we should just hire metallica and lady gaga to exclusively highlight 8 home game half time shows. i bet we could affor 4 million for that.

jack lelane can be our strength and conditioning coach.

maybe mr rogers can lead the team in pre-game prayers.

we should also buy the elephant mans corpse at auction to display besides the 6 lombardi trophies for inspiration.
I was thinking strength and conditioning would go to the Cirque du Soleil folks. Have you seen those people???? As for Bradshaw, I don't think he could even spell "OC" if you spotted him the... oh, wait...

MACH1
01-26-2012, 12:05 AM
I doubt Terry would want to leave his nekid room long enough. :chuckle:

Bayz101
01-26-2012, 01:49 AM
I doubt Terry would want to leave his nekid room long enough. :chuckle:

:rofl:

Sean95m
01-26-2012, 02:06 AM
Can't we all just get along? Since we are Steelers fans....all be it some dumb ones. Bradshaw was a great QB and is amusing on Fox. As far as one of the comments regarding former Steelers as coaches. Joe Greene (yes Mean Joe) has been coaching in the league for years and at one point many fans thought he would be the next head coach after Noll retired, but it ended up being this guy named Cowher that noone had heard of and Steelers nation went ape shit!

Bayz101
01-26-2012, 02:15 AM
Terry's one crazy bastard but I love the guy. No doubt one of the best. Coach though? Maybe. Just don't see it :noidea:

Rick5895
01-26-2012, 04:29 AM
The premise of this thread is a tad bizarre, however, there is no need to insult the new poster. That being said, I am old enough to remember TB and this thread did bring up great memories for me of Bradshaw making those great throws in Super bowls, I'll never forget the throw to Swann in Super Bowl X where Bradshaw got hit as he threw and was knocked out.

FanSince72
01-26-2012, 07:32 AM
.all be it some dumb ones


Res ipsa loquitor :sofunny:

4xSBChamps
01-26-2012, 09:26 AM
I am old enough (54) to remember Terry well. If the internet was around in the 70's he would of been belittled worse than Ben. I loved him, he threw the prettiest long ball I believe ever but he took chances and made some errors that left you shaking your head. Hey the first two SuperBowls where truly defensive wins. The latter two he had come into his own and were more offensive.

I'm also old-enough (52+) to remember Bradshaw well ~ despite having no interweb, he was belittled worse than Roethlisberger ever-was by the home-town crowd:
if Roethlisberger would've had his throwing shoulder seperated at Heinz Field, can anyone imagine the home crowd cheering as he'd limp off the field, clutching his injured arm
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/Glensgages/football/001-1.jpg
tough to top that one

I've always thought that the best way to explain how Terry Bradshaw played to the younger fans, who never saw him in-person is this:
imagine a bigger, stronger, better-running, bazooka-armed version of Brett Favre, who eventually minimized his throwing into double & triple coverage (something John Madden's lover never did), and who would rather have a win than a high QB-rating

With today's OL permitted to legally hold on passing-plays, defenders not allowed to play bump-n-run, pass-happy OC, and emphasis on going empty-backfield/shotgun on 3rd & 1, he'd throw 40+ TD passes every year:
he'd make Marsha, Peyton, & Drew look-like dink & dump passers

Ricco Suavez
01-26-2012, 04:29 PM
I'm also old-enough (52+) to remember Bradshaw well ~ despite having no interweb, he was belittled worse than Roethlisberger ever-was by the home-town crowd:
if Roethlisberger would've had his throwing shoulder seperated at Heinz Field, can anyone imagine the home crowd cheering as he'd limp off the field, clutching his injured arm
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/Glensgages/football/001-1.jpg
tough to top that one

I've always thought that the best way to explain how Terry Bradshaw played to the younger fans, who never saw him in-person is this:
imagine a bigger, stronger, better-running, bazooka-armed version of Brett Favre, who eventually minimized his throwing into double & triple coverage (something John Madden's lover never did), and who would rather have a win than a high QB-rating

With today's OL permitted to legally hold on passing-plays, defenders not allowed to play bump-n-run, pass-happy OC, and emphasis on going empty-backfield/shotgun on 3rd & 1, he'd throw 40+ TD passes every year:
he'd make Marsha, Peyton, & Drew look-like dink & dump passers

Amen Brother!!! Fans back then did not appreciate Terry til later in his career. I have a feeling some of Ben's detractors will tell their kids how great he was much later.

LVSteelersfan
01-26-2012, 09:59 PM
Ben and TB don't exactly see eye to eye on much. I doubt they would make a good combination together. The idea of Bradshaw being OC seems kind of absurd to me. But there is no chance in H E | | of it actually happening so it doesn't matter. I wish they would just hire an OC already and stop these OC threads. We are all bored since the Steelers got Tebowed, so I guess we need to talk about something. I don't know if I'll even bother watching the Super Bowl this year and I dislike both teams.

tony hipchest
01-27-2012, 01:08 AM
maybe we can just trade our 1st round pick for ahmad bradshaw. :hunch:

Kanata-Steeler
01-27-2012, 11:39 AM
It boils down to this:
After TB left the Steelers', and after helping them get 4 SB rings prior, what has HE "actually" done coaching, and/or even playing wise, since 1983. ?
Sure, Dick LeBeau, is older that God, but Dick has never left the League from day 1.
TB loves to play, granted, but he didn't exactly try to get back in the NFL (coaching/playing wise) since 1983 !!!, or did He ?, I may be wrong.

Needless to say, I will always love and respect Terry, I mean, as a Steelers' Fan, who in their right-mind couldn't ?!, but,
Unfortunately, this particular thread maybe one and done.

On the other hand, how 'bout TB as a QB coach ? (and no, I don't really care if Ben likes it or not?)
Again, and as others have posted here, why would TB want to make le$$, AND, probably get fried alive at the same time ?
Hey, it would defnitely be a challenge for ALL parties involved,... but... comon !!!,
even I'll just drink Molson Canadian, and NOT Peruvian-laced whatever liquids anymore ???!!!
:)