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mesaSteeler
01-26-2012, 05:55 AM
Steelers owner Rooney: Arians' instability prompted change

By Mark Kaboly
PITTSBURGH TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Thursday, January 26, 2012

Alluding to long-term stability, Steelers president Art Rooney II said, "I think it was time for a change" when talking about the sudden departure of offensive coordinator Bruce Arians.

In an interview on the team's website Wednesday, Rooney gave at least one reason why Arians won't be back next year instability. (Unstable is a good word to describe the Airhead as long you put "Mentally" in front of it. - mesa)

"Bruce talked about retiring for a number of years now," Rooney said. "We are looking to improve on offense and to have somebody in place for a number of years. We are looking forward to moving on."

Arians said earlier in the week that he had no choice but to retire after the team did not offer him a contract, and that he had been contacted already by a number of teams about coaching next year. ("contacted by other teams", :rofl::rofl::rofl: Sure you were Brucie! I suppose they needed a locker room attendant. - mesa)

That was stark contrast to late last week when the Steelers sent out a news release saying that Arians retired after five years with the team as the offensive coordinator that resulted in two Super Bowl appearances.

The Steelers' offense finished 12th in total offense (372.3 yards per game) and 21st in points per game (20.3) last year.

Hoke retires

Veteran nose tackle Chris Hoke will announce his retirement after 11 seasons with the team at a news conference Thursday

Originally signed as an undrafted rookie free agent out of BYU, Hoke spent the majority of his career in a backup role.

In 2004 while replacing the injured Casey Hampton, Hoke had his most successful year, with 27 tackles and one sack. In Hoke's 18 career starts during the regular season, the Steelers had a record of 17-1.

Hoke was in the final year of his contract.

Clark in Pro Bowl

Steelers safety Ryan Clark will make his first trip to the Pro Bowl after Baltimore's Ed Reed opted out because of an injury.

Clark had one of his best years, as he led the team with 100 tackles to go along with five passes defensed and one interception.

Uniform change

Rooney said don't expect any visible changes to the Steelers uniforms, even though Nike will take over for Reebok starting in March.

"There will be some changes that won't be noticeable to the fans in terms of the materials used and stuff like that," Rooney said.

Rooney said that the team's throwback uniforms, which they have worn twice a year since 2007, will undergo a significant change to celebrate the organization's 80th year.

Odds and ends

Rookie tackle Marcus Gilbert underwent successful surgery on his shoulder Wednesday. ... Defensive end Brett Keisel said on his website that his injured groin will not require surgery. Keisel also announced that "Shear Da Beard II" will be held Feb. 9 at the Diesel Club Lounge. Doors will open at 6 p.m., and the shaving ceremony will start at 7. Tickets are $25, and all proceeds benefit the cancer programs at Children's Hospital of Pittsburgh UPMC.

Mark Kaboly can be reached at mkaboly@dailynewsemail.com or 412-664-9161.

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mesaSteeler
01-26-2012, 05:56 AM
Another twist in Arians v. Steelers
January 25th, 2012
http://blog.triblive.com/steel-mill/2012/01/25/another-twist-in-arians-v-steelers/

Did he retire?

Was he forced out?

Well, you know what they say — there’s your side, my side and and somewhere in the middle is the truth.

It appears now that the lack of committment to a long-term future by Arians forced Steelers Art Rooney to finally pull the trigger and not offer the offensive coordinator a new contract — or so that’s the story today.

In an interview conducted by Bob Labriola on Steelers.com today, Labriola pulled no punches and came out and directly asked Rooney if he had anything to do with Arians’ deparature.

Although Rooney sidestepped the question at first, he gave a peak into his thought process a little later.

“Bruce talked about retiring for a number of years now,” Rooney said. “We are looking to improve on offense and to have somebody in place for a number of years. I think it was time for a change. We are looking forward to moving on.”

Arians said earlier in the week that he had no choice but to retire after the team did not offer him a contract, and that he had been contacted already by a number of teams about coaching next year.

That was stark contrast to late last week when the Steelers sent out a press release saying that Arians retired after five years with the team as the offensive coordinator that resulted in two Super Bowl appearances.

Rooney initially did not answer the question of if he had anything directly to do with Arians’ departure.

“The question of how we got here is not really relevant,” Rooney said. “The key now is that Mike (Tomlin) has begun the search for our next offensive coordinator. We will go through the process and interview the right candidates.”

The Steelers offense finished 12th in total offense (372.3 yards per game) and 21st in points per game (20.3) last year.

Stay tuned, I am sure the story is not over yet. We still have to hear from Ben Roethlisberger, now don’t we? (Why do we have to hear from Roethlisberger? He's a player like any other. If he wants his job he can shut his mouth and move on. I'm tired of the the endless coddling. - mesa)

Whodis
01-26-2012, 06:17 AM
I believe the retirement talk was a defense mechanism Arians put up a few years back when he was placed on the hot seat. Do you really believe Arians wouldn't have taken a 5 year contract? Look, I heard Raven fans say they love him (as long as he's with us) and I wouldn't be surprised if the rest of the league felt the same way.

MACH1
01-26-2012, 08:04 AM
Like I said before if a guy is "thinking" retirement it's time to go. Buhbye bruce.

FanSince72
01-26-2012, 08:08 AM
Like I said before if a guy is "thinking" retirement it's time to go. Buhbye bruce.


Or one could say that if a guy is just "thinking" at all, he'd have to go.

After all, thinking could lead to other things like making one's own decisions and so forth and that kind of thing makes owners uncomfortable.


(just an alternative viewpoint) :popcorn:

Steelerfreak58
01-26-2012, 09:29 AM
The only thing I want to hear from Ben is, " BA was a great mentor and friend but I look forward to winning the Super Bowl next year with who ever they replace him with at OC."


End of story.

If Ben does anything else says anything about remotely being hurt, sad, mad, pissed. then I say we are in the business of looking for a QB that is a true team leader instead of the selfish little prick that I think most of us would think he elevated himself to be.

BigRick
01-26-2012, 09:34 AM
The only thing I want to hear from Ben is, " BA was a great mentor and friend but I look forward to winning the Super Bowl next year with who ever they replace him with at OC."


End of story.

If Ben does anything else says anything about remotely being hurt, sad, mad, pissed. then I say we are in the business of looking for a QB that is a true team leader instead of the selfish little prick that I think most of us would think he elevated himself to be.

Very well put. As much as I like Ben he needs to man up and do what's best for his team. If he wants to mope about Arians, I agree is time to look for the next QB.:tt03:

StainlessStill
01-26-2012, 09:45 AM
I'm starting to get sick of this story. I don't see it as that big of a deal. Most teams leave their coach's out in the dust never to be heard from again. Atleast we gave Bruce the option to go out gracefully until he opened his big mouth. Ben needs to stop being butt-hurt as well about it.

FanSince72
01-26-2012, 09:51 AM
The only thing I want to hear from Ben is, " BA was a great mentor and friend but I look forward to winning the Super Bowl next year with who ever they replace him with at OC."


End of story.

If Ben does anything else says anything about remotely being hurt, sad, mad, pissed. then I say we are in the business of looking for a QB that is a true team leader instead of the selfish little prick that I think most of us would think he elevated himself to be.

If Ben was some second or third level game manager like Jake Delhomme or Kyle Orton, I'd agree with you.
But Ben DOES have some talent and IS a pretty good QB and if he wants to express his feelings about this, I have no problem with it.

As far as selfishness goes, I think it would be difficult to find a top-shelf QB in whom selfishness isn't part of the package.
You don't get to that level by being a good little worker bee.
You get to that level by blowing your own horn as often as you can and arranging your environment to suit your needs as much as possible.

Different players may do that in different ways, but they all do it.

MACH1
01-26-2012, 10:11 AM
Or one could say that if a guy is just "thinking" at all, he'd have to go.

After all, thinking could lead to other things like making one's own decisions and so forth and that kind of thing makes owners uncomfortable.


(just an alternative viewpoint) :popcorn:

If someones thinking retirement it tells me his heart isn't in it 100%. If someone can't give 100% then it's time to go.

vasteeler
01-26-2012, 10:21 AM
why are so many people convinced ben is going to have a problem with bruce leaving. he will get over it and win us a couple of more superbowls

TRH
01-26-2012, 11:10 AM
The only thing I want to hear from Ben is, " BA was a great mentor and friend but I look forward to winning the Super Bowl next year with who ever they replace him with at OC."


End of story.

If Ben does anything else says anything about remotely being hurt, sad, mad, pissed. then I say we are in the business of looking for a QB that is a true team leader instead of the selfish little prick that I think most of us would think he elevated himself to be.


He's not going to say anything even close to that. Sheez........

TRH
01-26-2012, 11:10 AM
why are so many people convinced ben is going to have a problem with bruce leaving. he will get over it and win us a couple of more superbowls

I hear ya.
I'm sure he's both excited and at the same time interested in learning and working new offensive schemes, you can be sure of that.

wera176
01-26-2012, 11:24 AM
I'm starting to get sick of this story. I don't see it as that big of a deal. Most teams leave their coach's out in the dust never to be heard from again. Atleast we gave Bruce the option to go out gracefully until he opened his big mouth. Ben needs to stop being butt-hurt as well about it.

I agree with being tired about this story.


However, I've not heard ANYTHING from Ben, so why the comment about him needing to stop being butt-hurt? Did I miss it somewhere?

BTW, I would have no problem with him saying he was sad to see him go, by all accounts they got along very well. HOWEVER, he will need to move on, and I suspect he'll do just that...

BKAnthem
01-26-2012, 12:28 PM
Arians needs to Just pipe down, The Steelers gave him an opportunity NO ONE else was looking to give him...

Atlanta Dan
01-26-2012, 12:33 PM
Or one could say that if a guy is just "thinking" at all, he'd have to go.

After all, thinking could lead to other things like making one's own decisions and so forth and that kind of thing makes owners uncomfortable.


(just an alternative viewpoint) :popcorn:

Because we all know the only reason the Rooneys have allowed LeBeau to hang on is because LeBeau is their yes monkey puppet who allows Art and Dan Rooney to call in the defensive alignments from the owners box

I get that you think Arians got screwed but continuing to claim his departure was at least in part because the Rooneys are micromanagers and the Steel City versions of Jerry Jones is, with all due respect, nonsense
:drink:

Atlanta Dan
01-26-2012, 12:36 PM
why are so many people convinced ben is going to have a problem with bruce leaving. he will get over it and win us a couple of more superbowls

Maybe becuase Arians took it upon himself to claim Ben was not happy with his departure rather than let any statemnt on that matter come from #7?

FanSince72
01-26-2012, 01:21 PM
Because we all know the only reason the Rooneys have allowed LeBeau to hang on is because LeBeau is their yes monkey puppet who allows Art and Dan Rooney to call in the defensive alignments from the owners box

I get that you think Arians got screwed but continuing to claim his departure was at least in part because the Rooneys are micromanagers and the Steel City versions of Jerry Jones is, with all due respect, nonsense
:drink:


I'm not "claiming" anything.

It's a rainy, boring Thursday and I saw a pot that needed stirring...

...so I stirred. :stirthepot: (thus, the popcorn) -------------------->:popcorn:

Rockonsteel
01-26-2012, 01:39 PM
It's a rainy, boring Thursday and I saw a pot that needed stirring...

...so I stirred. :stirthepot:


Yup. He's a troll! :chuckle:

Rockon

Atlanta Dan
01-26-2012, 01:53 PM
I'm not "claiming" anything.

It's a rainy, boring Thursday and I saw a pot that needed stirring...

...so I stirred. :stirthepot: (thus, the popcorn) -------------------->:popcorn:

Got it:chuckle:

:drink:

StainlessStill
01-26-2012, 01:57 PM
I agree with being tired about this story.


However, I've not heard ANYTHING from Ben, so why the comment about him needing to stop being butt-hurt? Did I miss it somewhere?

BTW, I would have no problem with him saying he was sad to see him go, by all accounts they got along very well. HOWEVER, he will need to move on, and I suspect he'll do just that...

We can only go by what is presented to us, and Ben was the one that went to Tomlin in 2009 to save Arians's job and they both admitted to have a "father/son" relationship. Also, Arians just had an interview, spoken from the horse's mouth that Ben is "not happy" but "it's business."

Ben will need to get over this shit, they had their time together. Looks like Fitchner will be the guy and Ben seems close to him as well (taking him to Hawaii with him.)

FanSince72
01-26-2012, 01:57 PM
Yup. He's a troll! :chuckle:

Rockon

People who know me sometimes think of me as a pain in the ass.

When they say this I generally correct them by pointing out that I am a "Professional" pain in the ass.

(I mean I put in the work, I should get the credit, right?) :thumbsup:

TRH
01-26-2012, 02:26 PM
We can only go by what is presented to us, and Ben was the one that went to Tomlin in 2009 to save Arians's job and they both admitted to have a "father/son" relationship. Also, Arians just had an interview, spoken from the horse's mouth that Ben is "not happy" but "it's business."

.)



Not even a big deal. QB's are often close to their OC and do this kind of stuff ALL the time and he's been quiet on the issue as well, which makes it all the more normal.

Rockonsteel
01-26-2012, 02:31 PM
People who know me sometimes think of me as a pain in the ass.

When they say this I generally correct them by pointing out that I am a "Professional" pain in the ass.

(I mean I put in the work, I should get the credit, right?) :thumbsup:

Funny thing is, I work with a guy just like you. He is absolutely a "Professional" pain in the ass, so I can safely say I've seen your kind before.:chuckle:

Let's just hope whoever the new OC is, allows us to put BA in the rear view real quick. :hatsoff:



Rockon

Steel Peon
01-26-2012, 02:39 PM
If Ben does anything else says anything about remotely being hurt, sad, mad, pissed. then I say we are in the business of looking for a QB that is a true team leader instead of the selfish little prick that I think most of us would think he elevated himself to be.
Amen..........wouldn't it be something if Ben decided to leave because of all this? It's kinda fun to muse that a move to sign Peyton Manning as QB, and then Jim Caldwell as OC would happen immediately afterwards........just musing though.:tap:

StainlessStill
01-26-2012, 02:46 PM
Not even a big deal. QB's are often close to their OC and do this kind of stuff ALL the time and he's been quiet on the issue as well, which makes it all the more normal.

Which is why I'm sick of the non-stop articles and over-dramatized media backlash it has been causing over the days. I'm sure Rooney is sick of it as well.

MasterOfPuppets
01-26-2012, 02:48 PM
didn't mr rooney get the memo that the offensive failures were the players fault for not properly executing ? :shake01:

5 years of dragging that stinkin horse to water and he still wouldn't drink ...:deadhorse:

FanSince72
01-26-2012, 03:33 PM
Funny thing is, I work with a guy just like you. He is absolutely a "Professional" pain in the ass, so I can safely say I've seen your kind before.:chuckle:

Let's just hope whoever the new OC is, allows us to put BA in the rear view real quick. :hatsoff:



Rockon

The truth is that we're all a bunch of junkies hooked on Super Bowl wins and when we don't get our fix, we get irritable, we snap at everything and pretty soon the whole world just plain sucks.

But if we get our fix next season, we'll all seem as content and satisfied as a hundred dollar a day smack head who just found out his uncle died and left him five grand.




Of course, that five g's won't last forever, so...

Rockonsteel
01-26-2012, 03:40 PM
The truth is that we're all a bunch of junkies hooked on Super Bowl wins and when we don't get our fix, we get irritable, we snap at everything and pretty soon the whole world just plain sucks.

But if we get our fix next season, we'll all seem as content and satisfied a hundred dollar a day smack head who just found out his uncle died and left him five grand.




Of course, that five g's won't last forever, so...

So, are you sayin you know where I can get my hands on some good smack? :smack:

:sofunny::sofunny::sofunny:

Rockon

FanSince72
01-26-2012, 03:44 PM
So, are you sayin you know where I can get my hands on some good smack? :smack:

:sofunny::sofunny::sofunny:

Rockon


Don't look at me.

I don't even know what a good OC is.

LVSteelersfan
01-26-2012, 09:03 PM
Let's just hope that the naysayers won't be able to say I told you so if the new OC doesn't work out any better. We are going to have to score at least 35 a game for people to be happy with a new OC. Fix the O-line and I think this team could easily score like that. Leave it in a shambles and it will be more of the same as the past few years. I hated Arians with a passion so I am happy to see him go. I just hope it doesn't turn around and bite us. Hopefully the new OC has this team just as good between the 20 yard lines as they are now AND can produce some Red Zone Magic. USE HEATH MILLER MORE. He can be our Gronkowski up the middle if they would just use him that way.

Steel Peon
01-28-2012, 11:54 AM
My new take on the Arians situation is now as follows.........I already agreed with it, but now I think it was brilliant. Forget all that "Shot across the bow" talk simply because I don't think Rooney is singling out any one individual by doing this, nor does he need or want to. Basically, this is a statement that needs to be made.......and that statement is:

"None of you are irreplaceable.......sure I love you all, and respect what you have accomplished for this organization, and my honest hope is that you'll continue to be an extremely valuable asset for years to come, and eventually retire as a Steeler, but if I ever get the feeling that you've stopped trying or are simply happy to be collecting a paycheck while enjoying the NFL life, then I will start the process of replacing you. I will allow you to move on gracefully, and we will give you a respectful send off, but you will leave."

So, this statement will always apply to every member of the Steelers organization as long as Rooney is in charge, who himself feels very passionate about the team, and we are lucky to have an owner who feels that way.