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LayingTheWoodley56
01-26-2012, 08:15 PM
Gay was everyone's favorite whipping boy last year. He showed vast improvement this season, came up with two big interceptions against Cincy and Cleveland to clinch both games, and he was one part of a two-corner tandem that anchored the best passing defense in the league. He is getting a raw deal now because of his past reputation. It seems questionable as to whether or not he's going to be brought back, with numerous people on this board calling for us to draft a cornerback. We just drafted two last year in Allen and Brown. Why not let those guys back up and develop, along with Lewis, and bring Gay back on a one-year deal? I was impressed with his improvement this season, and I want to see if he can develop further here.

Black N' Yellow
01-26-2012, 09:07 PM
When people talk about corners, they want an elite shutdown in the likes of Revis/Taylor/Asomugha and those guys are typically found in the first round. We don't have any on the roster other than Taylor (but he was a fourth round pick if I remember correctly).

I think we're more likely gonna see the Steelers draft a safety or two before picking up a shutdown corner. And the safety replacements won't come until both lines are addressed.

finesward
01-26-2012, 09:27 PM
There is no reason for us to draft a CB #1 this year, or #2 for that matter. Like above poster mentioned we need immediate impact players on both lines, as well as the ILB position and safety. We also need to start looking at the QB position. I like our depth on offense minus the oline. We need 2 guards and a tackle , or most likely 2 versatile players that can do both. Overall I think if we make the right additions we can wave good bye to a lot of the modern classic steeler players, especially on defense, and not miss much of a beat.

ItalianSteelersFan178443
01-26-2012, 09:36 PM
Gay has been very good for us throughout his hole tenure in my opinion. He wasn't brought in to be the next best CB for the Steelers, but he has shown that he is willing to get their. He had a great season for many teams only throwing his way. He made a lot of bonehead plays and screwed up on some coverages, but he is still improving. I still think that we should draft a CB this draft in the later rounds just to shore up that position. With the league becoming pass happy you can never have enough good CB's on the team and for the Steelers we still have yet to get 2 or 3.

Darkstorm05
01-26-2012, 10:06 PM
If you can change just one play this past season, and undo gay's horrifying failure against Baltimore, we get the tiebreaker and have the bye week. gay cost us that, and no matter how high the "Gay meter" goes, or how much love his fans give up to him, it won't get us that bye week back.

Everyone sings his praises when he has a few weeks in a row where he doesn't cost us major losses. I guess that makes him a hero. FYI, Ike isn't so hot either. he just happens to be the best. All that said, is till wouldn't draft a CB in round one. I think we have young guys already on the roster that should step up, and even if not and the secondary continues to suck, we need those high picks elsewhere first.

ggoldman
01-26-2012, 11:34 PM
I can't wait to see Cortez Allen and Curtis Brown on D, not just special teams

jjpro11
01-27-2012, 12:00 AM
If you can change just one play this past season, and undo gay's horrifying failure against Baltimore, we get the tiebreaker and have the bye week. gay cost us that, and no matter how high the "Gay meter" goes, or how much love his fans give up to him, it won't get us that bye week back.

Everyone sings his praises when he has a few weeks in a row where he doesn't cost us major losses. I guess that makes him a hero. FYI, Ike isn't so hot either. he just happens to be the best. All that said, is till wouldn't draft a CB in round one. I think we have young guys already on the roster that should step up, and even if not and the secondary continues to suck, we need those high picks elsewhere first.

oh please.. Taylor got burned worse a a couple plays prior to Gay in the Baltimore game.. Flacco just overthrew it.

skinart82
01-27-2012, 02:20 AM
Bunch of good plays......"he's ok i guess." One bad play....."he's the worst player in the NFL and we should just cut him." Got to look at the whole body of work! I was actually quite pleased with him this season and think he earned the right to stick around and get better. Just my opinion though.

former RB
01-27-2012, 11:55 AM
Gay's main problem is that he tries to do too much. He doesn't want to give up anything. He plays so tight on the short stuff that he sets himself up for the long stuff. But it usually takes a perfect throw to beat him. Gay doesn't like to give up either side of the field. As a DB, you can only take away inside or outside, you have to take one and give the other as the recievers only option. You take away the sideline, and let the reciever have the middle of the field, or vice versa. You can't take away the outside AND the inside.
My nephew finally got that. He always tried to take away the inside and outside since high school. In his last year of college, after getting beat quite often. I finally convinced him to just take away either the sidelines or the middle on every play. Then play the reciever to the side you give him.

He started denying either the sideline or the middle on every play. Then he covered the WR on the only option he gave him. His play really improved. He spent most days getting screwed on quick slants because thats the only thing they can throw on him now. When he took away the inside, they couldn't beat him on the sideline. He started to let the safety know when he was giving the sideline , so the safety could help deep.

Steeler safetys play agressive, so they aren't much help deep. Gay has to try to take away one side, and cover short and deep. If he played in a Tampa 2 scheme, he would be a top rated DB.

Curtain_of_Steel
01-27-2012, 05:23 PM
Gay has been fine this year, but he is a little to inconsistant, but it could be from the dumb ass plays we run where we keep the corners back on 3rd and short so we give up the first down, lol.

steelerchad
01-27-2012, 08:40 PM
If you can change just one play this past season, and undo gay's horrifying failure against Baltimore, we get the tiebreaker and have the bye week. gay cost us that, and no matter how high the "Gay meter" goes, or how much love his fans give up to him, it won't get us that bye week back.

Everyone sings his praises when he has a few weeks in a row where he doesn't cost us major losses. I guess that makes him a hero. FYI, Ike isn't so hot either. he just happens to be the best. All that said, is till wouldn't draft a CB in round one. I think we have young guys already on the roster that should step up, and even if not and the secondary continues to suck, we need those high picks elsewhere first.

Just so you know, Ryan Clark blew the play against Baltimore and admitted as much. He was late getting over and cut his angle short and actually ended up cutting off Gay from being able to make any kind of play on the ball. Gay was suppossed to be in a trailing position with Clark having the coverage over the top. You can go watch it again on youtube.

Danny136200
01-27-2012, 08:58 PM
Just so you know, Ryan Clark blew the play against Baltimore and admitted as much. He was late getting over and cut his angle short and actually ended up cutting off Gay from being able to make any kind of play on the ball. Gay was suppossed to be in a trailing position with Clark having the coverage over the top. You can go watch it again on youtube.
There was also an obvious push off by torrey smith that was not called.

Steelerfreak58
01-28-2012, 12:37 AM
I think Gay did great this year and it would be a shame to lose the guy. Corners in the 3/4 D don't get much love or wiggle room. You don't notice them until they blow a coverage or get a PI called against them. Gay did awesome in that roll he gave up very few big plays this year which all corners do a few times a year.

He did his job in our D schemes perfect. He was never burned or blown out of games. He made some really great plays this year too.

tanda10506
01-28-2012, 02:56 AM
He played as good as any other #2 corner we could get would. I think he was a big reason for our defensive improvement against the pass.

BlaZeQuietly
01-31-2012, 08:40 AM
Gay played well this year.

Bayz101
01-31-2012, 08:43 AM
Gay played well this year.

Definitely. He'll get better next year I do believe. He was inconsistent at times, but look at Troy Polamalu. Couldn't get hot all year :noidea:

steelfury02
01-31-2012, 09:01 AM
anything can happen to any secondary against any good WRs/Tight Ends

Our secondary got Tebowed

The #31whatever ranked defense in the league stepped up and played well enough all the ways to the Super Bowl (Patriots) Many consider the Giants secondary to be weak so it just goes to show you what stats mean

The supposed game changers of Green Bay's secondary got exposed as a liability whereas last year they were the biggest asset outside of Rodgers and the WRs.

Keeping or losing Gay is not going to make or break the team. Red zone efficiency, turnovers and protection for Ben are paramount

I'd be more worried about the lines as well, and honestly - the ILBs are a major concern over this IMHO