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FrancoLambert
02-19-2012, 11:07 AM
OK, let's have a little fun.
Say the Steelers are planning to construct a "Steelers Mt. Rushmore."
Let's limit it to 5 "figureheads."
What 5 Steeler figures of all time do you want depicted on it?

Here are mine in no particular order:

Noll - the original architect of the blueprint for football greatness
Greene - Noll picked him first, that says it all
Bradshaw - 4X SB quarterback has to be on it despite early difficulties
Lambert - I'm biased here I admit, but he was the "Face of the Steelers"
Hines - my toughest selection, all-time WR record holder, 2X SB champ

When I listed all of the names in contention, it's a daunting task to pick 5.
Let the debate begin!

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pittpete
02-19-2012, 11:23 AM
Greene
Lambert
Blount
Bradshaw
The Chief with a big cigar:sofunny:

Bill Cowher's Jaw
02-19-2012, 11:27 AM
Joe Greene
L.C. Greenwood
Ernie Holmes
Dwight White

It all starts up front with these guys.

stb_steeler
02-19-2012, 11:44 AM
1. Rooney
2. Noll
3. Bradshaw
4. Lambert
5. and this guy
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i139/amandarenee_01/Pee-wee-Herman.jpg

StainlessStill
02-19-2012, 11:53 AM
The Chief
Joe Greene
Franco Harris
Jack Lambert
Terry Bradshaw

Buddha Bus
02-19-2012, 01:28 PM
My picks:

Art Rooney I
"Mean" Joe Greene
Jack Lambert (missing tooth exposed snarl pose)
Dick LeBeau
Chuck Noll


Honorable mentions:

Bill Cowher (just because "The Chin" would look awesome carved into a stone wall)
Franco Harris
Hines Ward
Troy Polamalu
Terry Bradshaw
Rod Woodson

harts
02-19-2012, 01:40 PM
Art Rooney
Noll
Greene
Bradshaw
Mel Blount

Lambert was more widely known but Blount was so pivotal back there for such a long time
the first four are practical locks if you know anything about the steelers

These guys epitomized what Steeler football is all about

Honorable Mention (in no order)
Rocky Blier: pure heart
Greg Lloyd: If he would of played 5 more years at the high level before his knee injury
Hines Ward
Franco - ran out of bounds in a time when you didnt - his toughness might come into question also
Jack Ham

GameTime55
02-19-2012, 07:27 PM
The Chief
Lambert
Greene
Bradshaw or Franco (tough choice .. the QB or the guy with the Immaculate Reception)
Noll

madtowndrunkard
02-19-2012, 09:07 PM
I think it depends on the theme you are going with....

Mt Rushmore has 4 heads

Leaders:

The Chief
Coach Noll
Coach Cowher
Coach Lebeau

The Players:

Jack Lambert
Mean Joe Green
Rod Woodson
Terry Bradshaw


Best players / worst people:

Plaxico Burress
Santonio Holmes
Greg Lloyd
Ben Roethlisberger

My personal "steeler" hero's"

Mike Webster
Rod Woodson
Hines Ward
Jack Lambert

It's just not fair to list only 4 or even 5. There are so many great names of the steelers nation. To leave on of them off it would discount the value they had to the steeler nation. You could argue any one of these guys deserves to be on a steeler monument.

Myron Cope
Bill Cowher
Chuck Noll
The Chief
Jack Lambert
Franco Harris
Terry Bradshaw
Rocky Bleier
Donnie Shell
Dick Lebeau
Jerome Bettis
Hines Ward
Rod Woodson
Mike Webster
Troy Polomalu
John Stallworth
Greg Lloyd
Lynn Swann
Luis Lipps
John Henry Johnson
Jack Butler
Greg Lloyd
Mel Blount
L.C. Greenwood
Jack Ham
James Harrison
Ben Roethlisberger

60_MINUTES
02-19-2012, 09:21 PM
Most everyone goes with the older guys and I get that to.. but I will say this... I think we are watching the greatest player to ever strap them up if you look at on and off the field... Troy P

1. Art Rooney
2. Dan Rooney
3 Troy P
4. Bradshaw
5. Joe Green ( this is the guy that really started it all and the reason the Steeler know how the Rooneys want them to act.. in his famous words to Rod Woodson ( We dont do that Shit here son ) Rods Answer " Yes Sir "

FrancoLambert
02-20-2012, 10:21 AM
I think it depends on the theme you are going with....

Mt Rushmore has 4 heads

Leaders:

The Chief
Coach Noll
Coach Cowher
Coach Lebeau

The Players:

Jack Lambert
Mean Joe Green
Rod Woodson
Terry Bradshaw


Best players / worst people:

Plaxico Burress
Santonio Holmes
Greg Lloyd
Ben Roethlisberger

My personal "steeler" hero's"

Mike Webster
Rod Woodson
Hines Ward
Jack Lambert

It's just not fair to list only 4 or even 5. There are so many great names of the steelers nation. To leave on of them off it would discount the value they had to the steeler nation. You could argue any one of these guys deserves to be on a steeler monument.

Myron Cope
Bill Cowher
Chuck Noll
The Chief
Jack Lambert
Franco Harris
Terry Bradshaw
Rocky Bleier
Donnie Shell
Dick Lebeau
Jerome Bettis
Hines Ward
Rod Woodson
Mike Webster
Troy Polomalu
John Stallworth
Greg Lloyd
Lynn Swann
Luis Lipps
John Henry Johnson
Jack Butler
Greg Lloyd
Mel Blount
L.C. Greenwood
Jack Ham
James Harrison
Ben Roethlisberger

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No kidding Mt. Rushmore has 4 heads.

That was the point.

There was no theme to go by.

You could only choose 5.

That was the challenge.

Anybody could make a list of the most influential Steeler greats.

Bayz101
02-20-2012, 11:57 AM
History is made every season in Pittsburgh, and records and accolades once thought forever sealed become broken more often than not. It would need nearly 50 heads :chuckle:

fujirama24
02-20-2012, 01:31 PM
I think it depends on the theme you are going with....

Mt Rushmore has 4 heads

Leaders:

The Chief
Coach Noll
Coach Cowher
Coach Lebeau

The Players:

Jack Lambert
Mean Joe Green
Rod Woodson
Terry Bradshaw


Best players / worst people:

Plaxico Burress
Santonio Holmes
Greg Lloyd
Ben Roethlisberger

My personal "steeler" hero's"

Mike Webster
Rod Woodson
Hines Ward
Jack Lambert

It's just not fair to list only 4 or even 5. There are so many great names of the steelers nation. To leave on of them off it would discount the value they had to the steeler nation. You could argue any one of these guys deserves to be on a steeler monument.

Myron Cope
Bill Cowher
Chuck Noll
The Chief
Jack Lambert
Franco Harris
Terry Bradshaw
Rocky Bleier
Donnie Shell
Dick Lebeau
Jerome Bettis
Hines Ward
Rod Woodson
Mike Webster
Troy Polomalu
John Stallworth
Greg Lloyd
Lynn Swann
Luis Lipps
John Henry Johnson
Jack Butler
Greg Lloyd
Mel Blount
L.C. Greenwood
Jack Ham
James Harrison
Ben Roethlisberger

Where's Andy Russell on that list.

madtowndrunkard
02-20-2012, 01:50 PM
Where's Andy Russell on that list.


Good point... missed him.

Asking for 4 or 5 most important steelers is impossible. It's like asking for the 5 hottest women in the US. I think my point was it's just a pointless thing to ask.. top 5 steelers.

MDSteel15
02-20-2012, 03:34 PM
Come on guys! I can't believe this.
1st and foremost is the Chief.. PERIOD
2nd Is Coach Noll
3rd Mean Joe
4th is Bradshaw
5th is the ONLY player in team history to have his NUMBER retired, #70 Ernie Stautner!

FrancoLambert
02-20-2012, 03:50 PM
Good point... missed him.

Asking for 4 or 5 most important steelers is impossible. It's like asking for the 5 hottest women in the US. I think my point was it's just a pointless thing to ask.. top 5 steelers.



A pointless thing to ask, so says you. :noidea:
"Let's have a little fun....." starts it. :popcorn:
It was meant to provoke discussion and see how the top 5 broke down (over generational lines, when you started watching the Steelers, who imprinted on you the most......and so on). :blah:
And this is a platform for discussion about the Steelers. :tt04: :tt02: :tt:
Maybe you should't brand a thread "pointless. :doh:

Oh, by the way, I could come up with a list of "the" hottest women in the U.S.
It would be my opinion but it's not impossible to do. :hatsoff:

:wave:

LayingTheWoodley56
02-20-2012, 05:27 PM
You can't comprise the Steelers Mt. Rushmore of entirely 70's players, as great as that era clearly was, because you can't leave off entirely a generation of players that has appeared in 8 AFC title games in 16 seasons, 4 Super Bowl appearances, and 2 Super Bowl victories. It's also hard to include coaches and owners because that adds a whole 'nother crop of names that are tough to leave off. I agree with the guy above me who thinks there should be a few different groups. Leaving off coaches/owners, I think it would have to go:

1) Hines to represent the new-gen
2) Lambert, perhaps the all time face of formidable Pittsburgh Steeler defense
3) Mean Joe, because 2 of the 4 have to from the 70's defense, which set the tone for our franchise to this day
4) Bradshaw, because you can't discount a man who was under center for 4 Super Bowl titles

Of course, we as Steeler fans are lucky to root for a team that gives us know shortage of candidates. You could make a case for Blount, Ham, Webster, Stallworth/Swann, etc. from the old days; guys like Lloyd, Woodson and Dawson from the 80's/90's; and our current Steelers have given us a whole new crop, Harrison, Ben, Polamalu, to name a few. We don't need a Steeler Mt. Rushmore as much as we need a Great Wall of Steelers.

JCPsteelers
02-21-2012, 04:11 AM
Easy

1. Greene
2. Bradshaw
3. Franco
4. Troy P.
5. Noll

Bayz101
02-21-2012, 04:38 AM
Only five people, but so much talent and greatness to choose from. No particular order.

1. Ernie Stautner 1950-1963 (1950's All decade team, only Steelers player to have jersey # retired)
2. Jack Lambert 1974-1984 (NFL All-Time Team)
3. Mike Webster 1974-1988 (NFL All-Time Team)
4. Chuck Noll (Arguably the greatest coach in Steelers history, and one of the best NFL coaches ever, period.)
5. Art Rooney (The man who started it all.)

I'm sure you noticed I didn't put up great players like Bradshaw, Swann and even Joe Greene.

Bayz101
02-21-2012, 04:42 AM
And if this is limited to players only, i'd add Terry Bradshaw and Mean Joe.

The new-gen rushmore:

1. Hines Ward
2. Jerome Bettis
3. Alan Faneca
4. Aaron Smith
5. Joey Porter/Troy Polamalu

madtowndrunkard
02-21-2012, 09:53 AM
If you think of it in comparison to other players around the NFL and how ours stacked up against the other all time greats.. You could very easily argue that these guys were the greatest to ever play their position:


Lambert - one of the best LB's in NFL history
Mean Joe - one of the best DT's in NFL history
Woodson - one of the best corners in NFL history
Polamalu - one of the best Safeties in NFL history.
Webster - one of the best Centers in NFL history


Sure Bradshaw, Stallworth, Harris, etc were all great...and they are HOF'ers.... but they are not even in the discussion of greatest players at their position vs the history of the NFL.

I have to say I am shocked at the number of people who have not listed Rod Woodson. Because he doesn't have the rings? He's the Dan Marino of corners.

4xSBChamps
02-21-2012, 10:02 AM
limiting this to a quartet of faces (as-in the real monument), it all begins with the Chief, Art Rooney, who founded the team, and although it floundered for the 35+ years that he ran the team, there was no-doubt he was trying to field a winning team, he gave the franchise a colorful (if-futile) history, and he was a true 'Pittsburgh-guy'

Probably the best thing he ever did was turn the team over to his son, Dan Rooney, who was more-interested in building a successful team, having graduated from ball-boy up through the ranks (his dad owning the team, not-withstanding):
he realized the team had to begin thinking outside it's-own little clique, was instrumental in the NFL/AFC merger, helping broker the Steelers, Browns, and Colts switching Conferences

His most-important decision was hiring Chuck Noll as coach in 1969, who came from the Paul Brown-led Championship teams of the 1950's, retired at the tender age of 27 to become an assistant coach in the fledgling AFL under Sid Gillman's Chargers, then became Defensive Coordinator under Don Shula at Baltimore, some of the best-coached & most-innovative teams of those eras

With his first-ever draft-pick, Noll chose Joe Greene, a little-known Defensive Tackle from North Texas (a Pittsburgh newspaper asked 'Who's Joe Greene?' following that draft), who blended fiery-competitiveness with calm-leadership during his career

These four men were the cornerstones of what has become one of the League's most prestigous franchises, despite it being a laughing-stock just 40 years ago:
players who've come since then have played extremely vital roles in the organization's history, but the Chief, Danny, Emperor Chaz, and Mean Joe laid-out the foundation & drew-up the blueprint of where the team would-go and how it would get-there, staking-claim as the NFL's last great dynasty

steelerchad
02-21-2012, 10:05 AM
Tough one.

1. Webster
2. Green
3. Bradshaw
4. Lambert
5. Harris

forget the coaches and owner for this list.