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Blackout
03-24-2012, 08:19 PM
Some sources are reporting that the Steelers might be interested in getting Stewart and drop Mendy.

Would be awesome, but perhaps too costly.

MasterOfPuppets
03-24-2012, 08:41 PM
probably the same source that said mike tolbert was going to be signed by the steelers...:coffee:

the steelers have 6-8 mill in cap room , most of which will be needed to sign draft picks. there will be no free agents coming to town. if they do, they'll be some bum like johnathon scott...somweone you've never heard of.

ANDYMISIU
03-24-2012, 09:42 PM
If the Steelers come to an injury settlement with Mendenhall and possibly make some type of trade, it could be possible.

I have never been a huge fan of Mendenhall's attitude, work ethic, or running style.

I would welcome a hard-nosed, explosive back such as Stewart.

El-Gonzo Jackson
03-24-2012, 10:24 PM
probably the same source that said mike tolbert was going to be signed by the steelers...:coffee:

the steelers have 6-8 mill in cap room , most of which will be needed to sign draft picks. there will be no free agents coming to town. if they do, they'll be some bum like johnathon scott...somweone you've never heard of.

Yeah, same source that said Cowher to coach Browns.:doh:

Millers the sh!t
03-25-2012, 02:41 AM
I don't think we'll have room seeing how Tolbert, Jacobs, Green Ellis, Hillis, Rice, Bush, and Forte are coming here.

I don't like Mendy's dancing, but I feel like he hasn't properly been utilized and his talents have been held back because of our o line and previous OC problems. If we lose Mendy, I hope he goes to a team that let's him flourish.

I've never had any problems with Mendy's attitude or comments off the field either. Mendy's an intelligent man.

steelerchad
03-25-2012, 09:32 AM
I don't think we'll have room seeing how Tolbert, Jacobs, Green Ellis, Hillis, Rice, Bush, and Forte are coming here.

I don't like Mendy's dancing, but I feel like he hasn't properly been utilized and his talents have been held back because of our o line and previous OC problems. If we lose Mendy, I hope he goes to a team that let's him flourish.

I've never had any problems with Mendy's attitude or comments off the field either. Mendy's an intelligent man.

I felt like Mendy had a really good year in 2010, but last year fell back. The injury at the end was just icing on the cake to a bad year. Our line has been weak for his entire career and the emphasis hasn't been on the run. With the injury, he is now a gigantic ? for the rest of his career. He's only had a short tenure, but backs don't last in this league, especially heavy workload feature backs.

TomBradyWearsUggsLOL
03-25-2012, 09:54 AM
As much as I'd love to have him, I just don't see it. First off, he's not a FA, he's still under contract. What would the Panthers want for him? He's still young and hasn't taken much of a beating, but with our cap situation it just isn't feasible. Money issues aside, the most I'd offer is a 2nd rd. pick and even then I'd be hesitant. If we truly don't feel comfortable with the RB situation, I'd look in rounds 3 or 4 of the draft. Makes no sense in going after a quality back given our O-line issues.

ShutDown24
03-25-2012, 01:18 PM
Johnathan Stewart is Isaac Redman with more speed and less power. He's a nice piece, but retaining Mendenhall+Redman for nothing is better than wasting resources to acquire Stewart.

Kingmagyar
03-25-2012, 04:34 PM
Wouldn't Stewart be in the last year of his contract like Mendenhall? No one will trade much for a guy in his last year unless a new multi-year, multi-million dollar deal was reached first, and I'm sure the guy wants to be paid. Maybe that's why Carolina signed Tolbert, knowing they were going to let Stewart walk after this year.

El-Gonzo Jackson
03-25-2012, 08:54 PM
Johnathan Stewart is Isaac Redman with more speed and less power. He's a nice piece, but retaining Mendenhall+Redman for nothing is better than wasting resources to acquire Stewart.

Thanks for the sane explanation.

Can you handle the next thread titled ...................."(insert name of latest high priced free agent) headed to the Steelers". too??

MasterOfPuppets
03-25-2012, 10:21 PM
i'd trade wallace for jonathan stewart and a second rd pick. stewart could be a ray rice clone in the right offense. he caught 47 passes last year.

Rockonsteel
03-26-2012, 10:01 AM
i'd trade wallace for jonathan stewart and a second rd pick. stewart could be a ray rice clone in the right offense. he caught 47 passes last year.

No way I'd do that. I want Mike Wallace and J Stewart in this offense together. I'd give up 2 picks in whatever combination(4th/5th round, this/next year draft) or maybe one 3rd round pick in this/next years draft. I'd trade for Stewart, no doubt about it, but for the right price.

And I don't think I want Mendenhall back. And I had huge hopes for the kid. Time to cut losses and move on. Somebody suggested an injury settlement. I like the sound of that.

Rockon

Curtain_of_Steel
03-26-2012, 10:48 AM
Would not give up a 4, maybe a 5th pick. Don't need Stewart, rather spend it on an OLineman.

this guy has also been hurt on and off, dont need that mess to go with the countless injuries we get from players getting hurt in the buffett line

Kingmagyar
03-26-2012, 11:00 AM
Mike Wallace for Jonathan Stewart? That would sure win you the GM of the year award.

Steelerfreak58
03-26-2012, 11:00 AM
I think we have three good solid RBs already in Redman, Dwyer and Clay from what I have seen of them they can do the job just fine.

jjpro11
03-26-2012, 03:41 PM
I think we have three good solid RBs already in Redman, Dwyer and Clay from what I have seen of them they can do the job just fine.

i haven't seen much of anything out of Dwyer or Clay. Dwyer had one nice run in garbage time.. Clay looks too slow to me. neither of them are capable of carrying the load if called upon imo.

Rockonsteel
03-26-2012, 03:51 PM
I think we have three good solid RBs already in Redman, Dwyer and Clay from what I have seen of them they can do the job just fine.

Me thinks you're viewing this through very thick, black and gold glasses, my friend. Redman is solid, but what type of back he can be for 16 games, remains to be seen. As for Dwyer and Clay, neither is close to proven, and IMO neither strikes fear in any defenses as far as being real threats. And don't let Dwyers' gimme 78 yd. td run fool ya. He's not that kinda back. Anybody expecting to see more carries like that is in for a rude awakening. Hopefully Baron Batch can be the wildcard in that regard. But, coming off a serious knee injury, how much can we bank on that?

They need to bring another RB in the fold to compete for the starting spot in Mendenhall absence, and possibly even when he returns. Whether that's Stewart or a draft pick, or whatever, it needs to happen.


Rockon

Fire Arians
03-26-2012, 04:16 PM
Me thinks you're viewing this through very thick, black and gold glasses, my friend. Redman is solid, but what type of back he can be for 16 games, remains to be seen. As for Dwyer and Clay, neither is close to proven, and IMO neither strikes fear in any defenses as far as being real threats. And don't let Dwyers' gimme 78 yd. td run fool ya. He's not that kinda back. Anybody expecting to see more carries like that is in for a rude awakening. Hopefully Baron Batch can be the wildcard in that regard. But, coming off a serious knee injury, how much can we bank on that?

They need to bring another RB in the fold to compete for the starting spot in Mendenhall absence, and possibly even when he returns. Whether that's Stewart or a draft pick, or whatever, it needs to happen.


Rockon

we're stuck with what we have, we are only 8 mill under the cap and have to find a way to sign wallace and this year's draft picks still. we are not bringing in anybody unless they're signing for the minimum, which stewart will not.

casteeler
03-26-2012, 04:44 PM
I don't think Barry Sanders could gain yards behind the Steeler offensive line,Pouncy is the only bright spot. I would love to see Redman get 70% of the carries, I'm tired of watching Mendy dance behind the line that couldn't hold their block for 2 seconds

MasterOfPuppets
03-26-2012, 05:56 PM
Mike Wallace for Jonathan Stewart? That would sure win you the GM of the year award.
and when wallace signs a 90- 100 million dollar contract WITH ANOTHER TEAM next year and we get absolutely nothing , will that get anyone a gm of the year award ?
my line of thinking is , we'd get a quality back who's averaged 4.8 yds over his 4 year career despite being on a crappy team. he's a good receiver out of the backfield. he shouldn't be looking for the big money truck to back up to him.
plus we'd an extra get the 40th pick of the draft. 3 picks in the top 56 would go a long way to filling in holes. AND it saves a pick on a RB.
people thought it was the end of the world when we lost burress...it wasn't
people thought it was the end of the world when we lost holmes...it wasn't
infact it was the 5th rd pick for holmes that landed us brown... the steelers traded the 5th from NY for holmes , to arizona , in exchange for mcfadden and their 6th rd pick which they used on brown.
had they kept holmes for one last year only to see him go elsewhere for more money , we wouldn't have brown.

Steel Peon
03-26-2012, 07:54 PM
Are we still talking about Mendenhall? Isn't he gone yet? Why is it someone so non-special gets all kinds of attention? I really hate to see a player suffer a potentially career ending injury, but the sooner Mendy isn't a Steeler anymore, the happier I'll be.

PhantomJB93
03-26-2012, 10:40 PM
As unlikely as it is that we'll actually do anything about RB in terms of FA or a trade, I think it's equally unlikely that the Steelers are as satisfied with their RB corps as many fans seem to think. There's literally nothing there and as big a fan favorite as Redman seems to be, he is really, really unproven still. There's a big difference between performing well as a change-of-pace back that defenses hardly account for and getting limited carries, and suddenly taking on a full RB job in a 16 game season and taking 20+ carries a game. Redman could very well wind up just as disappointing as Mendy in that situation, if not more.

As for Clay, Dwyer, Batch, that's even worse. Batch looked promising last summer but of course hasn't played a down. Dwyer and Clay are really not worth talking about at this point, neither would have even been on the team last year were it not for Moore and Batch going down.

I really wouldn't be surprised if a RB is selected in the first 4 rounds. I would not expect it in the first of course but I would hardly be surprised if a David Wilson, Lamar Miller, or Lamichael James is taken in round 2.

Bayz101
03-27-2012, 01:29 AM
Regardless of how our young backs got a shot to perform, when they did, they performed. That's enough in any coaches books to expect a great stable of young backs to fight for a roster spot early on, and I doubt we'll pick up another on early in the draft. Maybe late.

ricardisimo
03-27-2012, 04:55 AM
You would think that Steeler fans would get excited about the free agents we're not going to sign, and the major trades we're not going to pull off, because - let's face it - we're not going to do any of these things. Instead, there's the constant string of big transaction wishes from everyone. weird.

Bayz101
03-27-2012, 05:00 AM
You would think that Steeler fans would get excited about the free agents we're not going to sign, and the major trades we're not going to pull off, because - let's face it - we're not going to do any of these things. Instead, there's the constant string of big transaction wishes from everyone. weird.

When I ran that through Google Translate it translated to:

Off-Season. It's as simple as that.

LayingTheWoodley56
03-28-2012, 10:58 AM
I enthusiastically support this idea, even if we need to give up multiple draft picks (third and lower, preferably) for him. You know Carolina is looking to deal either him or Stewart after bringing in Tolbert; Lord knows they don't need three running backs of that caliber when their quarterback may be the best runner out of all of them. We simply can't go into a season with four unproven backs and nothing else (not saying they don't have potential.) I love Redman and I have faith in him but he's yet to show he can shoulder the full load, least of all with a guy we signed in Week 15, a guy who has a history of injury problems and another who didn't even make it out of camp last year.

I don't get the resistance to the idea of signing another back by so many fans. Running back is still an important position, we are the Pittsburgh Steelers after all and we need to solidify our ground game IMHO.

NSMaster56
04-06-2012, 08:31 PM
While I am biased when it comes to Stewart since I went to HS with the guy, I think he would be a good fit in the City of Champions.

Stewart has been mostly a ST and split back in Carolina. He's still only 25, so as a full-time starter he could really display his full potential (think Marshawn Lynch in Seattle, minus the skittle eating).

The only thing is, even if it became a realistic possibility for him to sign/be traded here and sign a fair deal, he may not be that much better than (or a contrast/break from) Isaac Redman... we won't know until Redman is given his shot as a featured back.

Granted, I believe Stewart could be a 75+% version of The Bus, even with his obvious injury problems (he's going to miss 3-4 games a year as a featured back) and the woeful OL.

However, hypotheticals and well-wishing aside, I don't see J-Stew in black and gold.

It's a nice dream though.