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devin7558
03-25-2012, 10:23 PM
Here is my mock draft for the Steelers based on positional need, Steeler and NFL trends both in the draft and system wise, as well as some cap smart selections. WARNING!!!!: this is a truly lengthy read.

Round #1 (24) OT Jonathan Martin Stanford
NFL comparison: Eugene Monroe Jacksonville Jaguars

His stock is lower than a month or two ago and he is ripe to fall in this draft. Need some proof?

He is not a likely top 10 pick. That puts him 14 spots away from us. There are at least 4-5 offensive lineman in this draft ranked higher than him and playmakers and overall difference makers are thin in this draft. Borderline playoff teams (picks 13-20) will look to add difference makers at the skill positions. In that span the Bengals select twice and the Browns have an additional pick. They both need skill position players more than a tackle. "Project" type selections like Dontari Poe will be selected ahead of Martin and more than that the only team picking ahead of us with a truly glaring need at OT is Detroit. Though they will be in the hunt for O-line help they really need to fix their secondary and can fare with what they have on the o-line in light of Stafford pumping out such nasty #'s last season. CB's should fall in this draft and I fully expect Detroit to look there. Also look for teams who have already picked to trade into the 20's to select a QB like Ryan Tannehill or Brandon Weeden.

Now onto an analysis of Jonathan Martin. He is not a flashy or high profile pick and fits the mold of a typical late first round Steeler selection. He is simply productive and solid at everything he does. At 6'5" 312 and with long arms he has the physical tools to compete for a starting spot at either tackle position. He played against good competition and kept QB Andrew Luck clean a lot more often than not. His experience and time in a true pro style offense that ran the ball well figures into the Steelers plans. He is an underrate run blocker who plays with good leverage. He is an average athlete who will work hard and has the brains to excel. Quick feet and good slide and mirror abilities give him the best chance to protect the left side against typical speed rushers. He can provide some nice training camp competition at LT for Marcus Gilbert wherein the loser moves to the RT spot and Willie Colon can kick inside to his natural position at RT. A pick like this fixes the offensive line in one fell swoop. If this scenario happens Martin represents the bet player available as well as the value and need rarely seen in a first round selection for any team.

Expect this to be the selection if Martin falls to 24 or within reach of a logical trade for Colbert and Tomlin.

Round #2 (57) ILB Mychal Kendricks California
NFL Comparison: Navarro Bowman San Francisco 49ers

The Steeler defense need a starting ILB from this draft and it is a thin group! With OL getting the attention in the first I expect this to be the pick in the second. Enter: Mychal Kendricks. He is a bit undersized in height at 5'11 240 but is strong and physical in the box and played all 52 games of his college career. He played the ILB in a true 3-4 at Cal. He worked out well at the draft and ran an awesome 40 (though i dont honestly care about 40 times). I put on the game tape and I see a Harrison type playmaker but at ILB instead. He is instinctive and explosive and really wrangles ball carriers like nothing! He is stout and strong and plays with a blue collar attitude which will win over coaches. He is low key, plays smart, and avoids stupid penalties. Youtube this kid's highlight reel if you dont believe meI He oooozes STEELER. He can cover slot WR's and pass catching TE's and step up and fill gaps to stop the run when needed. He's a solid wrap up tackler and a big hitter when given the oppurtunity and would easily beat out both Foote and Sylvester if given the chance. I think he is the most complete ILB in this years draft and a steal if he can be had with our second round selection. He also opens up the possibility of cutting Foote to save cap space should that be needed. At worst he is a year away, he adds competition to help push Sylvester and is the quality depth player you look for who can learn while playing special teams.

Round #3 (89) NT Josh Chapman Alabama
NFL Comparison: Sione Pouha NY Jets

This is the best time in the draft to ensure that the steelers fill a need with a quality prospect. They can ride Hampton for one last campaign and groom this zero technique to take over in 2013. He is squarely built at about 6'1 320 and plays like it! He wins the leverage battle and draws consistent double teams which is a must. He has the elite strength you look for in a true NT benching 610 at BAMA while squatting nearly 800lbs. He played through a torn Meniscus and ACL last season and was a cornerstone in that defense. For example, when Chapman left the lineup for only one game his defense was rung up by lowly Georgia Southern to the tune of 302 rushing yds. He was the building block for BAMA's 3-4, not Hightower, and he can be ours for the next 10 seasons. You have to select him here and not wait! It is not a reach.

Round #4 (121) TE Lardarious Green Lousiana-Lafayette
NFL Comparison: Ed Dickson Baltimoron Ravens

The Steelers need a young stud TE who can take that second spot now that Wesely Saunders is suspended for 4 games to start the 2012 season. Saunders will be lucky to make it out of training camp with a job. Green is receiving TE who is a limited blocker but that will not stop Colbert (who values TE's and knows his new Off. Coordinator does as well). Green is durable and catches the ball well down the seam and in the soft spots between zone defense. He is faster than timed and is tall and rangey at 6'6 and 238lbs. He can get stronger and add 10-15lbs at the NFL level without comprimising his speed. He is a toy at this point but if the Steelers lose Mike Wallace (or at best can't sign him long term) this gives the offense a piece to throw at and mitigate the lost production from losing Wallace. And lets face it, the scouts and coaches are looking for these top flight pass catching TE prospects they once missed on in guys like Rob Gronkowski, Aaron Hernandez and Jimmy Graham. His ceiling is not as high as those guys but he can be a solid 40 catch 500-600 yd TE who adds size and threat inside the redzone. The Steelers need that. I fully expect Colbert to look his way in this draft.

Round #5 (153) OG Lucas Nix Pittsburgh
NFL Comparison: Richie Incognito Miami Dolphins

Though the Steelers rarely select local talent I feel confident that they will place Lucas Nix pretty high on their draft board. He's a quality kid who can help in the rushing attack and develop his pass blocking abilities in the mean time. He is coachable, has the size (6'5" 315) and mean streak NFL scouts like and will provide depth at a spot they need it at. He is a value here and they simply need more big bodies to compete along the OL in training camp. He has the look of a potential future starter and may need time but the desire and talent is there. With proper coaching he could be a potential LG who can be effective in the pulling and trapping game for a lunch pail offense that I expect to see Todd Haley use more than BA did in the past.

Round #6 (185) FS Aaron Henry Wisconsin
NFL Comparison: Ryan Clark Pittsburgh Steelers

With Ryan Clark and Troy Polamalu both on the wrong side of 30 the Steelers need to look for some players than can be groomed to play if they go down with injury. Though both our starters play at a very high level and can probably stay there the next season or 2, the organization likes to think ahead and reload rather than rebuild. Henry gives them a piece to accomplish that. He has good cover skills and has played CB as well before moving to safety at Wisconsin.He is an above average tackler racking up 58 in 13 games last season will picking off 2 balls and defending 7 passes. Doesnt play the ball as much as youd like and has suspect hands. Sounds like a Steelers DB to me! He will certainly be undervalued coming off a minor knee surgery. He could be a steal if he falls to us here.

Round #7 (217) K Blair Walsh Georgia
NFL Comparison: Rian Lindell

Do you trust Suisham? I don't. He needs to be replaced with a cheap talent who can make kicks. Walsh fits that prototype and has a big leg. He went 20/23 last season kicking 8 FG's from 40+ and a long of 53 yds. He will have some rough spots if you defer to him in his rookie season but has the talent to succeed. He could also be used as a kickoff specialist as he averaged 65.9 yds per kickoff with 12 touchbacks last season. Not a bad piece to push Suisham in camp and eventually replace him. You could do worse with your 7th round selection.


A big thank you to all who took the time to read through this massive write up! I love the NFL draft and the Steelers and would be excited to see the draft unfold like this for us. Comments, flames, and criticism are encouraged! three, two, one.....GO!!!!

Bayz101
03-26-2012, 01:33 AM
I like the mock! Good work!

MasterOfPuppets
03-26-2012, 01:48 AM
the ONLY way the steelers would draft a tackle that high is if they planned to move colon to guard.

19ward86
03-26-2012, 01:52 AM
I dont see a tackle being taken. I see a G, NT, CB, or ILB...i dont see much chance of an early o-line pick just because thats how the Steelers roll. Draft quality recievers and have no Oline...compared to the Patriots who draft quality Oline and pick up scrub recievers (welker was a scrub in miami)

pete74
03-26-2012, 05:02 AM
i agree with you, if a good Tackle is there we will take him. im thinking Adams from Ohio State though. everyone can say who the steelers wont or will draft but nobody knows. we take BPA and thats it. i didnt see anyone who thought we would draft Heyward last season. its nothing more then a guess

El-Gonzo Jackson
03-26-2012, 09:02 AM
the ONLY way the steelers would draft a tackle that high is if they planned to move colon to guard.

We don't often expect rookies to start. If Martin is there he is BPA. He would likely solve our LT position for a long time, but wouldn't likely start there for a year or two.

devin7558
03-26-2012, 11:30 AM
For as much as we always need offensive lineman the steelers havent been hesitant to select them early in the past 2 drafts. they did select pouncey with a 1st rounder and the next season followed it up with gilbert so that may be the lone reason they will avoid taking a guy like martin or adams with this years 1st rounder.

im not high on mike adams but i think hightower, poe and glenn will all be off the board at 24. I think martin makes sense at that point. he can sit and develop for a season or push for a starting spot and kick colon inside to his natural position. its a BPA pick. if none of these players are there at 24 i think they should explore trade options to move back for additional 2nd and 3rd round picks.

Kingmagyar
03-26-2012, 12:07 PM
Your first 3 rounds would be great. I mean Martin would be a steal at 24 considering he could go as high as 13. Kendricks seems to be a player that can cover the pass very well going with the trend of today's NFL. Chapman is a solid guy to build up for the NT of the future. Things could go a lot worse then that for the Steelers. So very good first 3 round mock. DB late is a good choice as well.

But, yet another mock without a Wide Receiver taken, when it is a great draft class for Wide Receivers and we are low in WR depth with only 3 signed one being Wallace a RFA and the other 2 about to be RFAs.

Colbert values TEs but they better be able to block. The whole offense if based on that. I don't see the Steelers drafting a TE who weighs 238 lbs and can not block. I don't think it would happen. They need a guy like that for red zone but why would you take him when you can get a receiver of almost the same height a little less weight but runs much faster in the 4.4 range? A 4th rounder doesn't have to be a starter though so they could take him and use him as a novelty in the red zone but I'd take a WR.

-as you can tell I am hung up on the Steelers taking a WR in this year's draft. It's become my personal crusade.

And one last thought. I do believe it is a great first 3 rounds for Guards. And this team needs one probably more then any position on this team. We would need a better guard then Nix. I don't know where you would draft him but we need one.

Fire Arians
03-26-2012, 12:56 PM
kendricks is an interesting pick. I think we're gonna go after him if we can't land hightower with the 24th pick.

i prefer glenn in rd 1, we need guard more than anything right now

devin7558
03-26-2012, 02:11 PM
awesome suggestions...its food for thought!

I agree guard is the HUGE need but i only see two guards worth a pick @ 24 and thats DeCastro and Glenn. I think both will be gone when we pick as well as Hightower and Poe. Any others at that point are reachesIMO.

WR is a need but only for depth. the top 3 are set for at least this season.
moving forward they do need more there so maybe they do look for a WR but i dont think any in rounds 2-3 are worth more than the NT or ILB of the future.

admittedly i did choose a few athletes i personally like so maybe taking some of that out of this mock would yield a more realistic forecast. the steelers are a hard team to mock draft for!

devin7558
03-26-2012, 02:13 PM
kendricks is an interesting pick. I think we're gonna go after him if we can't land hightower with the 24th pick.

i prefer glenn in rd 1, we need guard more than anything right now

Glenn is a solid choice but his ability to play both OG and possibly RT in the future adds so much tohis stock after his impressive combine.

i am reallllly high on kendricks, kid can play some ball...

cbrunn
03-26-2012, 02:18 PM
Now the first 3 picks would be great , with that said I'm not to sure that any of them would be there with them picks...

martin. tackles are at a premium in this league, i just don't think he falls to us at 24 ... if he did you no doubt select him

The more i watch kendricks the more i love him, I'd rather him over hightower , but again if he falls to our second round that would be an ultimate steal, might reach for him in the first if nobody in the beginning of second round is willing to do a trade

Chapman, i love him also as a NT for the future, but i'm afraid with more teams trying to convert to the 3-4 he might go a lot higher then projected

what ever happened to ILB mario harvey , undrafted free agent from last year, i think if we still have him or if he's not on somebody practice squad , you cut foote and bring him aboard, if anything he can be a great ST player

I'm also high on LB nigel bradham from FSU and OLB bruce irvin from WVU

Moving back from 24 for a extra early second and third i think in this draft is the best thing to do , if you can find a trade...

devin7558
03-26-2012, 02:35 PM
i like nigel bradham as well, bruce irvin got arrested the other night so i think he's off the big board for the steelers...

martin could definitely slide, thats the only reason i plug him into our 1st rd slot. his pro day wasnt electric and he was overshadowed by luck, decastro and even chris owusu. scouts are just very quiet about him lately.

i also used a very current big board for all the picks in this mock. i selected most ahead of where they are currently ranked. i believe kendricks may not fall to us is my worry.
i fully expect Chapman to be there in the 3rd

El-Gonzo Jackson
03-26-2012, 06:53 PM
I think the Kendrick's fascination is mainly a product of the combine. Some say he can cover the pass, but he is much smaller than most TE in the league. The knocks on him are he isn't strong in the run game and at the point of attack, he gets engulfed by O linemen.

So the guy can run sideline to sideline, but doesn't plug the middle well. He can run with TE in the slot, but will get thrown over. I dont think he fits well in a 3-4. Probably a better will LB.

devin7558
03-26-2012, 11:03 PM
Im not big on just combine #'s alone. The reason im high on him is he started all 53 games as a true ILB in a zone based 34 defense at Cal in a quality conference and just KILLED the competition. He was the defensive captain for two years, and the pac10 defensive player of the year last season. He earned every bit of it.

I just really dont see it when scout say o-lineman "engulf" him. I must be watching different tape than the rest or something. I think scouts tend to be narrow minded and look at his size on paper and assume bigger OL can handle him on that alone. He rarely if ever allows guards to line him up consistently.

He is at or near the ball on every play and thats a rare skill for LB's these days. To me he looks like the most balanced ILB in this draft by a landslide if youre judging it on an entire skill set.

El-Gonzo Jackson
03-26-2012, 11:42 PM
Im not big on just combine #'s alone. The reason im high on him is he started all 53 games as a true ILB in a zone based 34 defense at Cal in a quality conference and just KILLED the competition. He was the defensive captain for two years, and the pac10 defensive player of the year last season. He earned every bit of it.

I just really dont see it when scout say o-lineman "engulf" him. I must be watching different tape than the rest or something. I think scouts tend to be narrow minded and look at his size on paper and assume bigger OL can handle him on that alone. He rarely if ever allows guards to line him up consistently.

He is at or near the ball on every play and thats a rare skill for LB's these days. To me he looks like the most balanced ILB in this draft by a landslide if youre judging it on an entire skill set.

Did you watch all 53 games or just peel that off some bloggers website?? According to the Official Cal Athletics Website.........he started 29 games-NOT 53 games. He also was a pass rush specialist from the OLB position in 2010.
http://www.calbears.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/kendricks_mychal00.html

As for being Pac 10 player of the year.......check out Larry Foote's bio. I am sure he was the BIG 10 DPOY his senior year at Michigan, so what does that really equate to in the NFL??

El-Gonzo Jackson
03-26-2012, 11:56 PM
In 2011, Kendricks had 107 tackles with 14.5 tackles for a loss, three sacks, two passes broken up and two interceptions. He increased his tackle total dramatically from 2010, but his sack production was nowhere near the same level as he moved to inside linebacker as a senior after being an outside linebacker in 2010. In the NFL, Kendricks should play on the outside as he is undersized to be a middle linebacker.

8/23/11: Mychal Kendricks broke out last season as a rush linebacker for California. He recorded 8.5 sacks with 15 tackles for a loss and 66 tackles. Kendricks could use some more size to play outside linebacker in a NFL 3-4 defense, but has quality blitzing kills and if he has another quality season, should solidify his mid-round status.
http://walterfootball.com/draft2012OLB.php

Most scouting reports on Kendricks prior to the Feb 27th combine performance had him as a mid rounder, but after an impressive 40 time and vertical....he is flavor of the month 2nd rounder.

devin7558
03-27-2012, 12:01 AM
my bad, he officially "started" 29 games but played in every game from day one on campus
my point with that is that he played and produced and was durable. he wasnt a 1 year wonder
and he improved every season he was there. and 107 tackles in college is a hefty total.

I did watch the tape of him. (mostly top conference opponents like USC, Stanford, Oregon) and he was all over the field. the only player i ever saw "engulf" him was David DeCastro from Stanford and it was rare. Against USC on one play he rushed the passer and blasted matt kalil backward off the ball into the pocket only to have the ball dumped by the QB to the flat. he disengaged from kalil and chased the RB down from behind...the result was like a 2yd gain.

i do see your point with the dpoy not equating to being a stud at the nfl level but it doesnt hurt the chances either...

MasterOfPuppets
03-27-2012, 02:00 AM
ronnell lewis looks interesting...

Ronnell Lewis*, OLB, Oklahoma
Height: 6-2. Weight: 253.
40 Time: 4.69. (ran a 4.65 at pro day) 10-Yd Split: 1.65.
Bench: 36. (holy shit)
Vertical: 31. Broad: 9-4.
Arm: 32 1/2.
Projected Round (2012): 1-2.
3/20/12: Lewis did very well at the Combine, showing serious strength, speed and explosion. Also teams were impressed with how well he interviewed and explained his time in Norman.

Lewis played really very well in 2011, and he excelled at defensive end. His ability to rush the passer off the edge, while playing the run well, illustrates that Lewis could be a good 3-4 outside linebacker in the NFL. He could fit as an inside linebacker in the 3-4 as well.

In 2011, Lewis only played in 10 games, yet the junior had good production. he totaled 59 tackles with 13 tackles for a loss, 5.5 sacks, five passes batted, one forced fumble and one interception. Against Texas A&M, the team with the best pair of offensive tackles Lewis faced all season, he had a good game with eight tackles, two tackles for a loss, one interception, one pass batted away and some good pass pressure. Lewis also outplayed the Seminoles and their offensive tackles, Andrew Datko and Zebrie Sanders.

Academic issues made Lewis ineligible for Oklahoma's bowl battle against Iowa. He is a phenomenal athlete who has speed to burn and is built like a truck. On the field, Lewis is an intimidating force who plays with a mean streak. He is an underrated prospect who could be a pick that many teams eventually regret passing on.
http://walterfootball.com/draft2012OLB3-4.php

After upping his 40 time, Lewis looked fast and smooth in position drills, running with tight ends, pivoting with the ball in the air and even snaring interceptions. He looked not unlike that free safety back in eight-man football.

Dalarin
03-27-2012, 04:17 AM
the ONLY way the steelers would draft a tackle that high is if they planned to move colon to guard.

Anyone who knows Colon's history has been asking for that for years

MDSteel15
03-27-2012, 07:39 AM
Anyone who knows Colon's history has been asking for that for years

^^^^ :tt03: :tt03: :tt03:

El-Gonzo Jackson
03-27-2012, 05:03 PM
my bad, he officially "started" 29 games but played in every game from day one on campus
my point with that is that he played and produced and was durable. he wasnt a 1 year wonder
and he improved every season he was there. and 107 tackles in college is a hefty total.

I did watch the tape of him. (mostly top conference opponents like USC, Stanford, Oregon) and he was all over the field. the only player i ever saw "engulf" him was David DeCastro from Stanford and it was rare. Against USC on one play he rushed the passer and blasted matt kalil backward off the ball into the pocket only to have the ball dumped by the QB to the flat. he disengaged from kalil and chased the RB down from behind...the result was like a 2yd gain.

i do see your point with the dpoy not equating to being a stud at the nfl level but it doesnt hurt the chances either...

You seemed to be implying that he played 53 games at Cal and all at ILB. He only played last season at ILB and in 2010 he was an OLB in their 3-4 defense.

I'm not saying he isnt a good player, but do find it amusing that very few people knew about him prior to the combine and those that did seemed to think he was probably a better OLB pass rush specialist.

Watch this video vs Stanford and you see Kendricks hopping in the middle and waiting to diagnose run plays. He doesnt read the play and move forward. In the first 2 minutes you see him flat footed waiting for the play to develop and DeCastro finds him downfield.
- Then at 2:08 you see Tyler Mabry #77 of Stanford block off Kendricks for a TD.
-at 5:01 you see Cameron Fleming #73 of Stanford just swallow him up and take him for a ride 10 yards out of the play.
- at 5:51 you see him on 3rd and 1 waiting 5 yards deep for the ballcarrier.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_xcgBLTrtY&feature=related

Kendricks is a great athlete. A lot of O linemen are of the caliber of David DeCastro in the NFL and a lot are much better than Tyler Mabry and Cameron Fleming are. Kendricks is a bigger term project than many combine watchers think.

devin7558
03-27-2012, 06:43 PM
You seemed to be implying that he played 53 games at Cal and all at ILB. He only played last season at ILB and in 2010 he was an OLB in their 3-4 defense.

I'm not saying he isnt a good player, but do find it amusing that very few people knew about him prior to the combine and those that did seemed to think he was probably a better OLB pass rush specialist.

Watch this video vs Stanford and you see Kendricks hopping in the middle and waiting to diagnose run plays. He doesnt read the play and move forward. In the first 2 minutes you see him flat footed waiting for the play to develop and DeCastro finds him downfield.
- Then at 2:08 you see Tyler Mabry #77 of Stanford block off Kendricks for a TD.
-at 5:01 you see Cameron Fleming #73 of Stanford just swallow him up and take him for a ride 10 yards out of the play.
- at 5:51 you see him on 3rd and 1 waiting 5 yards deep for the ballcarrier.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_xcgBLTrtY&feature=related

Kendricks is a great athlete. A lot of O linemen are of the caliber of David DeCastro in the NFL and a lot are much better than Tyler Mabry and Cameron Fleming are. Kendricks is a bigger term project than many combine watchers think.


point taken sir! ^^^^theres some good points in there :hatsoff:
i told you im just a straight up fan of kendricks. i think he has all the main tools, a good attitude and a very high ceiling potential wise. I look at him more from a standpoint of: what could LB's Coach Keith Butler and Coordinator Dick Lebeau turn him into in a season or two?? He could be scary.

(Not to mention the fact that the NT/DT's at Cal couldnt command double teams EVER and a lot of the time Kendricks was playing face up to a guard...he maybe able to just attack gaps in a Steeler 3-4)

His ability as a pure run stuffer is indeed just average. But he brings other important skills to the table to compensate. I just dont see a huge dire "need" to replace Farriors "run stuffing ability" as he only had 78 tackles last season. Most LB's anywhere could replace that production.

Maybe the "need" at ILB isnt as bad as we assume it is and waiting to select it is a better idea??

devin7558
03-27-2012, 06:59 PM
im going to work on a revised version 2.0 and possibly 3.0 mock leading up to this draft simply for specualtion on here. i may adjust some of the "need" picks we all assume the steelers are aiming at and pick with a little less personal bias this time around.

El-Gonzo Jackson
03-27-2012, 07:04 PM
point taken sir! ^^^^theres some good points in there :hatsoff:
i told you im just a straight up fan of kendricks. i think he has all the main tools, a good attitude and a very high ceiling potential wise. I look at him more from a standpoint of: what could LB's Coach Keith Butler and Coordinator Dick Lebeau turn him into in a season or two?? He could be scary.

(Not to mention the fact that the NT/DT's at Cal couldnt command double teams EVER and a lot of the time Kendricks was playing face up to a guard...he maybe able to just attack gaps in a Steeler 3-4)

His ability as a pure run stuffer is indeed just average. But he brings other important skills to the table to compensate. I just dont see a huge dire "need" to replace Farriors "run stuffing ability" as he only had 78 tackles last season. Most LB's anywhere could replace that production.

Maybe the "need" at ILB isnt as bad as we assume it is and waiting to select it is a better idea??

Compare the tackles of the players that played ILB in 2011, vs the Steelers ILB's from 2010. You will see less production by the ILB's in 2011........part of that could be that Hampton was not as effective in keeping linemen off the ILB's last season.

Also, take a look at Ryan Clarks tackles, I believe they were up which might indicate that our FS needed to make more tackles, because our ILB's were getting blocked and RB's were getting to the secondary.

I think the needs in the middle of the defense, specifically upgrading Hampton and Farrior , are necessary. Especially since our run defense declined last year.

Kendricks is fast, can jump high, but doesnt take a good first step to the ball and does not engage O-linemen well in run support. I like his skill set, but think he is a bit of a project that is really over rated right now.

pancake
03-27-2012, 07:26 PM
Round #2 (57) ILB Mychal Kendricks California

This is the best video on him that I found. He wift on several tackles and got swallowed up by OL several times, but this guy does hustle, just not sure he is 2nd round material...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx6M5D0RRUo&feature=related

devin7558
03-27-2012, 07:33 PM
I agree with all those points for the most part. Personally I see NT as a much bigger need and so is OG/T simply to keep ben healthy for these next 5 years so we can keep contending. Ball games are won in the trench's. I would not mind seeing them use a pair of picks on those spots early in this draft. The problem is that we are so cap-strapped we need depth all over the place.

I think something worth noting is that back when the steelers selected Hampton in 2001 he was rated the #8 DT on kipers list. so the general consensus (outside of cowher and colbert) is he was not a 1st round type guy that year. we may see another NT selection that goes that way as well.

El-Gonzo Jackson
03-27-2012, 08:07 PM
Round #2 (57) ILB Mychal Kendricks California

This is the best video on him that I found. He wift on several tackles and got swallowed up by OL several times, but this guy does hustle, just not sure he is 2nd round material...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx6M5D0RRUo&feature=related

I agree. I think he is a guy with huge "potential", but potential doesnt always pay off.

I agree with all those points for the most part. Personally I see NT as a much bigger need and so is OG/T simply to keep ben healthy for these next 5 years so we can keep contending. Ball games are won in the trench's. I would not mind seeing them use a pair of picks on those spots early in this draft. The problem is that we are so cap-strapped we need depth all over the place.

I think something worth noting is that back when the steelers selected Hampton in 2001 he was rated the #8 DT on kipers list. so the general consensus (outside of cowher and colbert) is he was not a 1st round type guy that year. we may see another NT selection that goes that way as well.

Not exactly true. I remember that draft vividly and there was a lot of talented DT's on that list. Gerard Warren, Marcus Stroud, Richard Seymour, Kris Jenkins, Shaun rogers, Ryan Pickett, etc. Hampton was a late 1st rounder, in a group with a lot of talent and probably the best NT on the board at the time.

Mel Kiper also said the Steelers would regret not taking Chad Pennington over Plaxico Burress in the draft............................dont always trust Kiper is the learning point there.

devin7558
03-27-2012, 09:49 PM
yeah, that 2001 draft was very deep with DL talent...i remember seeing hampton graded anywhere from a late late 1st rounder to a possible early third rounder but a lot of that was based on scout preference as it usually is...

I always heard Colbert /Cowher saw Stroud and LB Dan Morgan taken and they didnt want to reach at #16 on Hampton. So they traded it to the Jets and moved back to #19 (plus a 4th and 6th). They discussed moving back again but instead took the 3rd highest guy on their board still available in Hampton. Worked out pretty well.

Colbert also moved up in the 2nd Rd and selected Kendrell Bell. Draft day trades in the 1st and 2nd round are somewhat rare for the Steelers but Colbert placed heavy value on that NT/ILB combo. Maybe he will be willing to wheel and deal to get what he wants at those spots over a decade later.