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tony hipchest
04-23-2012, 05:49 PM
...says theres not many prospects who can come in and have an immediate impact on this years team.

pretty smart. it gives the backups and RFA's a chance to fight for their jobs and tells rookies they will have to fight for their jobs regardless of what position theyre drafted.

if we dont get hightower in the 1st, its probably up to foote and sylvester to battle it out.

same said if we dont get a LG.

if we do, they will have to beat out the incumbent regardless.

tanda10506
04-23-2012, 06:04 PM
I would agree though, with the possible exception of G, T, NT, and maybe ILB, I don't see any rookie being better then who we have starting now. I think Hightower and Poe could probably start or at least play often, and there are a few guards and tackles on offense, but otherwise I think he's right.


if we dont get hightower in the 1st, its probably up to foote and sylvester to battle it out.
same said if we dont get a LG.

I know the Steelers with this defense and Ben on offense will always be a potential SB team regardless of the obvious flaws with coaching and the O line. They went to two SB's and won 1 with Arians and this terrible offensive line. We took care of the coaching issue already by getting rid of Arians, but to not get the #1 weak spots on the team handled in the draft would leave us in the same situation as the last few years, which is a team that will compete but has to overcome major flaws (O line). I think we have the potential, with a new OC, some young guys stepping up on defense, and drafting O lineman, to be a COMPLETE team. This team was great in 2008, but imagine how great they would have been with this set of WR's and a good O line? That's what I wan't to see before some key players, albeit still years away, retire. Our tackle's (with Starks) are decent and we have a great center, add a couple of starting Guards and we can have a solid O line with decent depth (Legursky and Foster). I can only imagine what Ben and these WR's are capable of with proper play calling and a solid O line. We would win 2 championship's in 3 years. Got to get a Guard or two.

Hawaii 5-0
04-23-2012, 06:17 PM
Steelers Prepare For Thursday’s NFL Draft

April 23, 2012 6:30 PM

http://cbspittsburgh.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/tomlin51.jpg?w=420&h=316&crop=1

PITTSBURGH (KDKA) — The Steelers have depth issues at a variety of positions.

They can use help on the offensive line, at inside linebacker and in the defensive backfield. Potentially running back as well.

So the draft board is wide open, and one of the things the Steelers do better than just about every team is they don’t miss on their first-round draft pick.

Every first-round pick since 2000 has either starred or contributed in Pittsburgh.

“You can’t miss on (picks) one, two or three,” Steelers general manager Kevin Colbert said. “Those are premium picks. You shouldn’t miss on a first-rounder. To me, that’s a given.

“The twos and threes, if you miss on one of those it sets you back. You better hope you got lucky in the later rounds to compensate for that.”

The Steelers have done a lot of preparation for this draft. The evaluation process goes deep and includes character, talent and a winning history.

“I think that winning is valuable, but not only in the highest level — in terms of guys from Alabama or LSU — but also guys from North Dakota State,” Steelers coach Mike Tomlin said. “Guys that have won, regardless of where they’ve played, I believe that winning is contagious, I believe there’s a certain mind set that’s associated with winning, whether they’re at the 1-A level or the 1-AA level or Division II level.

“If they come from a successful high school program, I believe there’s intrinsic value in winning.”

Pittsburgh typically doesn’t trade up or down, but on occasion they have – when guys like Troy Polamalu become available.

That will remain an option.

http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2012/04/23/steelers-prepare-for-thursdays-nfl-draft/

PhantomJB93
04-23-2012, 06:41 PM
The way I see it, if it's a guard, Hightower, or Poe, they will get regular starting time, at least after a few weeks. If it's an OT, Mark Barron, or a DE (with the plan to switch Hood to NT), they will see little to no time on the field.

El-Gonzo Jackson
04-23-2012, 07:13 PM
Hood will not be switched to NT.

Colbert is right, you cant miss on round 1, 2, or 3 because it sets you back. Ask us how Bruce Davis, Limas Sweed, Kraig Urbik worked out. If Keenan Lewis doesnt step up, then he is another 3rd rounder that needs to pay dividends.

Hawaii 5-0
04-23-2012, 10:49 PM
Steelers Notes: Team ready for Thursday's draft

Posted: Monday, April 23, 2012
By Mike Bires mbires@timesonline.com


PITTSBURGH - The Steelers draft board is 98 percent complete. They're ready for Thursday night when their time comes to make their first-round selection.

They have ranked who they believe are the top 24 picks of the draft, so when they're on the clock, there shouldn't be any indecision.

"That to me is a given," general manger Kevin Colbert said. "If you are picking 24th, then you should have 24 guys evaluated correctly."

Even though the Steelers need help at several positions, Colbert said the Steelers won't draft for need. There are obvious question marks at nose tackle, linebacker, offensive line and running back. But it's always been Colbert's philosophy to take the best player available.

"Need is not a good word," Colbert said. "It's want. We want players. We don't necessarily need."

The NFL Draft will be held Thursday, Friday and Saturday at Radio City Music Hall in New York City. Teams will make their first-round picks on Thursday starting at 8 p.m. The second and third rounds will take place Friday. The final four rounds will be held Saturday.

The Steelers have 10 selections, one in each of the first six rounds and four in the seventh.

"Our draft board is pretty well set," Colbert said. "We will put some final touches on it over the next couple of days, when we get some late medical and character information.

"We are at that point now where we are ready to go. We have looked at several hundreds of people. It's our job to sort them out and pick the right ones who we think can help us."

NO WORRIES ABOUT WALLACE

Steelers coach Mike Tomlin and Colbert downplayed national reports suggesting that wide receiver Mike Wallace will refuse to sign the $2.7 million tender he received as a restricted free agent. Those reports suggest that Wallace, who led the Steelers in receptions, receiving yards and touchdown catches last year, is unhappy with his current contract situation and that he's hoping to be traded Thursday. "We are not worried about the reports," Tomlin said. "There were reports every day that he was going somewhere as a restricted free agent. He is still here." Added Colbert: "Our goal with him has always been and always will be to sign him to a long-term contract. We said all along that the decision would be ours. It remains that way and again, we want (Wallace) to be here for the long haul. He knows that, we know that and hopefully at some point we can get that done."

WILSON BACK AT WORK

There was a feel-good atmosphere Monday at Steelers headquarters because running backs coach Kirby Wilson returned to work on a limited basis.

Wilson was severely burned in a fire at his home in Seven Fields, Butler County, in early January. Initially, there were fears he wouldn't be able to coach this season.

Colbert was so happy to see Wilson that he mentioned it at a press conference held to discuss this week's draft.

"I really want to make note of Kirby Wilson showing up and getting back in the mix, at full speed, with his preparation," Colbert said. "It was really inspiring to have him back in the fold."

"Kirby is working around his rehabilitation at this point," coach Mike Tomlin said. "It's still ongoing; it's a process that he's going through. It's great to initially have him back in the building and working. He has some flexibility at this time of year from a draft preparation standpoint. With laptops, that type of work can be done at home, and it has been."

Right now, Wilson is helping evaluate running-back prospects the Steelers may consider in this week's draft.

DRAFT DUTY FOR DAWSON

Former Steelers center Dermontti Dawson, who will be inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in August, will be in New York on Friday to announce the team's second-round draft choice. This is the second consecutive year that NFL alumni have announced second-round selections. Last year, Franco Harris had the honor for the Steelers. NFL commissioner Roger Goodell announces all first-round picks.

http://www.timesonline.com/sports/local_sports/steelers-notes-team-ready-for-thursday-s-draft/article_8d922c92-4837-5bfb-ba47-f6cfbc1e4501.html

Kingmagyar
04-24-2012, 10:52 AM
2008 Draft

Mendenhall -hasn't lived up to being a #1 and costly fumble may never be forgotten. could be gone as well.
Limas Sweed -who took over this kid's body because in college he was wow!
Bruce Davis - Was to Effeminate to play in the NFL.
Tony Hills - with Denver now but for how long.
Dennis Dixon - regressed it seems.
Mike Humpel -career over before it started due to injury.
Ryan Mundy - Hooray they got one right but still isn't a starter except in Denver.

Dalarin
04-24-2012, 01:24 PM
The way I see it, if it's a guard, Hightower, or Poe, they will get regular starting time, at least after a few weeks. If it's an OT, Mark Barron, or a DE (with the plan to switch Hood to NT), they will see little to no time on the field.

Offensive tackle will see little playing time? If Colon goes down again we need someone to play right tackle. What if we were smart and drafted a mauler for a RT and pushed Colon to his true position at RG. We have the most injury prone line in the league with absolutely no depth as of yet. I think tackle would be a better move than guard but I would trade the chance for a Faneca-like guard to play in Pittsburgh again.

PhantomJB93
04-24-2012, 02:39 PM
Offensive tackle will see little playing time? If Colon goes down again we need someone to play right tackle. What if we were smart and drafted a mauler for a RT and pushed Colon to his true position at RG. We have the most injury prone line in the league with absolutely no depth as of yet. I think tackle would be a better move than guard but I would trade the chance for a Faneca-like guard to play in Pittsburgh again.

I said that under the assumption Colon is healthy, of course if he goes down (he probably will) an OT would see playing time.

I know the "Colon to guard" theory is very popular among us fans, myself included, but realistically I don't see it happening. Not for a rookie to start at RT. Further down the line it would definitely be a possibility. Starting a rookie and forcing a veteran to learn a new position just doesn't seem like something the Steelers would be so keen to immediately do.

MrAustin412
04-25-2012, 08:24 PM
Here's a quick look at all the guys that came in for visits and little briefs on them

http://www.fourthandtwelve.com/

BLACK_AND_YELLOW
04-25-2012, 09:57 PM
2008 Draft

Mendenhall -hasn't lived up to being a #1 and costly fumble may never be forgotten. could be gone as well.
Limas Sweed -who took over this kid's body because in college he was wow!
Bruce Davis - Was to Effeminate to play in the NFL.
Tony Hills - with Denver now but for how long.
Dennis Dixon - regressed it seems.
Mike Humpel -career over before it started due to injury.
Ryan Mundy - Hooray they got one right but still isn't a starter except in Denver.

Our O-line messed up Mendenhall if we a great O-line he could have gotten close to1500 yards every season IMO

Hawaii 5-0
04-26-2012, 12:06 AM
Here's a quick look at all the guys that came in for visits and little briefs on them

http://www.fourthandtwelve.com/


actually, this link was to your article grading the Steelers' last ten years of first round draft picks.

I thought you were a bit generous with your grades, I personally would have graded several of the choices lower than you did, especially Kendall Simmons.

tanda10506
04-26-2012, 01:01 AM
I would agree with most of the ratings, just bump Simmons and Mendy down to a C.