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Blackout
04-29-2012, 01:23 AM
So with RGIII and Luck drafted to their respective teams, it just kind of begs the question, and I know it's early to ask this, how well are they going to perform with what they have available now?

INB4 LOL ARIANS, but I'm kind of interested to see if all this hype pays off.

DG94
04-30-2012, 04:31 PM
RG3 has a solid defense with him in Washington while the Colts are in full rebuilding mode. I'd imagine RG3 will have earlier success, but for the career? I'm going with Luck.

TRH
04-30-2012, 09:12 PM
the analysts, of course, have all of them being "stars" and succeeding already. Do i have to bring up Brady Quinn? Jamarcus Russell? Ryan Leaf? Just because they were drafted 1 and 2 doesn't guarantee anything.

My money is on Russell Wilson, who Seattle drafted in the 2nd. He's much smarter, intelligent, and more accurate than either of those 2 are. They subtract from him a bit because of his size but he's Drew Brees' size, yet a bit more in shape. If he gets a chance, look out. I think he's going to be the eventual QB star of this draft.

DG94
05-01-2012, 04:51 AM
the analysts, of course, have all of them being "stars" and succeeding already. Do i have to bring up Brady Quinn? Jamarcus Russell? Ryan Leaf? Just because they were drafted 1 and 2 doesn't guarantee anything.

My money is on Russell Wilson, who Seattle drafted in the 2nd. He's much smarter, intelligent, and more accurate than either of those 2 are. They subtract from him a bit because of his size but he's Drew Brees' size, yet a bit more in shape. If he gets a chance, look out. I think he's going to be the eventual QB star of this draft.

He's also third on the depth chart, he won't get any snaps while Flynn competes with TJax!

Fire Arians
05-01-2012, 01:34 PM
im gonna laugh if they both suck

steeltheone
05-05-2012, 09:07 PM
Cam was a rare occurance....Its not that easy...

Hawaii 5-0
05-05-2012, 11:38 PM
So with RGIII and Luck drafted to their respective teams, it just kind of begs the question, and I know it's early to ask this, how well are they going to perform with what they have available now?

INB4 LOL ARIANS, but I'm kind of interested to see if all this hype pays off.


can you throw bubble screens to TEs? :chuckle:


Colts hope to use two, and even three, tight ends

Posted by Mike Florio on May 5, 2012

http://nbcprofootballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/fleenerandallen-e1336269083355.jpg?w=250

The NFL is the ultimate copycat league. And for a team that went 2-14 last season, it’s important to find a successful franchise to emulate.

Colts coach Chuck Pagano, who while coordinating the defense in Baltimore witnessed first hand the challenges of dealing with the two top-end tight ends on the Patriots roster, hopes to put together a similar attack in Indianapolis.

“It is a match-up nightmare,” Pagano said Saturday, via comments circulated by the team. “Coming off of the AFC Championship game, nobody knew better than the Ravens going into that game with the two guys [Rob Gronkowski and Aaron Hernandez] that [the Patriots] have. It is across the league. You can see it more and more every year.

“You can choose to put a defensive back on them, and they will be undersized, they will get outmuscled and they will get ‘big-boyed’ for the ball. Then you can put a safety or a linebacker on them and they can’t run with them. So we feel like the two guys that we added, and Dominique [Jones] is a physical presence, that guy is 260 pounds and moving around really well. It is a match-up nightmare for any defense.”

The two guys the Colts added are Coby Fleener and Dwayne Allen, taken in the second-round and third-round, respectively, of last weekend’s draft.

Quarterback Andrew Luck took it an extra step. “With three tight ends, do you put an extra safety in [the box] and try to stop the run or do you leave your regular defense in?” Luck said. “How do you do it? How do you match-up with those guys? Do you put a linebacker on them to cover them when they split out wide? So I think it creates mismatches.”

That would be a nice change for the Colts, given that they typically were on the wrong side of the mismatches in 2011.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/05/colts-hope-to-use-two-and-even-three-tight-ends/

Blackout
05-06-2012, 12:26 AM
They might the next Ryan Leaf.

TRH
05-06-2012, 09:10 AM
He's also third on the depth chart, he won't get any snaps while Flynn competes with TJax!

Pete Carroll has already said Wilson's in the competition and he wants all 3 of them to compete equally for the main job.

TRH
05-06-2012, 09:12 AM
They might the next Ryan Leaf.

True. Or Jamarcus Russell. Or Brady Quinn. And on and on. These analysts already have them succeeding (as usual).
Look how many 3rd round QBs, or 4th or 5th rounders or whatever are actually the ones who made it to mega-star status.