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Hammer67
07-21-2006, 06:45 PM
I have a pet peeve that got me the other day. I ****ing hate it when people in casinos, at Blackjack tables, feel the need to tell you how to play your hand. It breaks all kinds of table etiquette.

Now I like going to the casino where I play mostly craps & poker but will play a little blackjack from time to time. I know how to play. And, like some gamblers, I will hold with a 12 with the dealer showing a 3. Regardless of what the book says, I win doing that more often then not. I am not a huge gambler and don?t go all the time.

So my brother is in town over the weekend (Detroit) and we decide to hit the casino as a night out. We are both killing on the craps tables?just lighting up the house. I turned $50 into $600 in about an hour. Anyway, I decide to go see a friend of mine who is dealing blackjack. I walk over to his table and there are two players (six total spots). So I sit and pull out some cash. Mind you, we are on a $5 table, not a high roller table. The guy sitting to my right looks pissed and asks ?Hey man, why you gots to ruin the table!? Dude, there are FOUR open seats!!! Don?t assume I can?t play! I told the guy to relax. He was worried I would throw the cards off. Screw that. Moron, it?s all luck and if me being there doesn?t suit you, find another table. *******. :wtf:

I believe you play your game and don?t worry about other people. You worry about yourself and play smart. If someone doesn?t like your play, they can move. It is poor etiquette to tell people how to play if they don?t ask. If I want to hold on a 12, then I am going to hold. Don?t tell me I?m wrong. It?s GAMBLING! :screwy:

My brother doesn?t know blackjack all that much beyond the basics. We sit down at a cheap table with two other people and I am helping him. This lady at the end (who looks like she was using her freshly cashed welfare check to play) is bitching up a storm at my suggestions to my brother. I told her she could move if she didn?t like how we played. Now, I know how to play, I know the odds. This lady was telling me to hit on a 16 with dealer showing a 4. **** that.

Wouldn?t? you know we came out ahead and she was losing. :rofl:

People can be so rude.

tony hipchest
07-21-2006, 08:13 PM
the first time i played blackjack in a casino i had about the same experience. i play on gut, instinct, chance and luck. i dont always play it by the book. granted i was a newbie but people were getting pissed that i was either taking "their cards" or passing on what shoulda been "my" cards.

screw em. thats why they call it gambling. you got me fired up. now i remember what bastards i thought they were.

Lyn
07-21-2006, 08:14 PM
Just keep doing what you did, leep playing and ignore the ppl who are idiots. :) I am glad you won. Now if I send you a couple bucks.......................:)

Hammer67
07-21-2006, 10:05 PM
It just amazes me at the stupidity....People saying "Oh, if you don't play by the book then you throw off the odds for the table!" **** that! The house wins in the long run anyway!

Don't let anyone tell you how to play cards at the table unless you ask. It is considered extremely rude. If you don't like how someone is playing, leave. I come across people at times who don't know what they are doing (like an elderly lady holding with an 11 :dang:) but it isn't my place to say anything. She can do what she wants with her money, If I don't like it I leave. It's part of gambling.

Sorry...nothing pisses me off more then things like that.

Lyn
07-21-2006, 10:12 PM
I have also done that before. Say there are a couple empty chairs at a table I am sitting at and somone comes to fill up that chair. It interrupts the flow of cards I have been getting, if I am on a winning streak. I also get a lil POed but only for a moment as I recognize the ramifications!~ I have never said a word to a player. Just smiled. Then on the other hand if the cards I am getting suck and he sits down, he is now going to interrupt the sucky cards I have been getting! And that is a good thing., Again I just smile :)

Hammer67
07-21-2006, 10:19 PM
I have also done that before. Say there are a couple empty chairs at a table I am sitting at and somone comes to fill up that chair. It interrupts the flow of cards I have been getting, if I am on a winning streak. I also get a lil POed but only for a moment as I recognize the ramifications!~ I have never said a word to a player. Just smiled. Then on the other hand if the cards I am getting suck and he sits down, he is now going to interrupt the sucky cards I have been getting! And that is a good thing., Again I just smile :)

Of course...but if I was worried about people who didn't know how to play then I would be at a higher stakes table. You can't expect everyone at a $5 table to be master Blackjack strategists. Some people are just throwing down a few bucks for some fun and some laughs.

And, there is no such thing as "flow of cards". I know we feel that way sometimes but if you really paid attention to every time people came or left the table, it would still even out over the long run. Human instinct is to place blame. In the end, no one knows what card is coming next. No one.

Lyn
07-21-2006, 10:24 PM
That makes sense to me! As you said it "seems" to interrupt the flow and heck that is all I need a new perspective even if it is a fairy tale! LOL:)

Hammer67
07-21-2006, 10:33 PM
That makes sense to me! As you said it "seems" to interrupt the flow and heck that is all I need a new perspective even if it is a fairy tale! LOL:)

It's all fun and games until I lose! :sofunny:

Mosca
07-22-2006, 10:24 AM
I knew what it was going to be before I opened the topic!

I agree 100% Hammer, that's why I don't play blackjack. I learned craps a short while ago and I love it; learn the rules, make smart bets, ride the streak and cash out, come back to another table later on and do it again. Last time I played, the shooter threw an 8 6 times out of 9 rolls before hitting the point of 10; I was letting my place bets on 6/8 ride after the second 8, wound up the session about $400 to the good after the usual ups and downs over the next hour or so.

But blackjack, well, the cards are what they are and have no knowledge of who is where or how many players are sitting at a table; for all anyone knows, you sat down exactly when the streak was going to change, and you prolonged it; or, you took a card that would have busted a guy and instead he got a good card, or if you would not have taken a card the NEXT card would have busted him.

Thing is, all the other table games have such a high house edge I'd rather play slots or video poker. It's hard to even get a streak going at 3 Card Poker, Let It Ride, or Carribean Stud; those games just grind your bankroll down.


Tom

SteelShooter
07-22-2006, 05:11 PM
To heck with all of 'em...you have just as much right to be there as they do....do what you wish. :angel:

Lyn
07-22-2006, 06:24 PM
[QUOTE=Mosca]I knew what it was going to be before I opened the topic!

I agree 100% Hammer, that's why I don't play blackjack. I learned craps a short while ago and I love it; learn the rules, make smart bets, ride the streak and cash out, come back to another table later on and do it again. Last time I played, the shooter threw an 8 6 times out of 9 rolls before hitting the point of 10; I was letting my place bets on 6/8 ride after the second 8, wound up the session about $400 to the good after the usual ups and downs over the next hour or so.

But blackjack, well, the cards are what they are and have no knowledge of who is where or how many players are sitting at a table; for all anyone knows, you sat down exactly when the streak was going to change, and you prolonged it; or, you took a card that would have busted a guy and instead he got a good card, or if you would not have taken a card the NEXT card would have busted him.

Thing is, all the other table games have such a high house edge I'd rather play slots or video poker. It's hard to even get a streak going at 3 Card Poker, Let It Ride, or Carribean Stud; those games just grind your bankroll down.

Your very best chances of winning (to beat the house) are with Craps fir the reasons Tom mentioned!~:)

Mosca
07-23-2006, 09:40 AM
Lyn, I love the action at the table, too! I was worried about not being able to keep pace, but the dealers are extremely helpful. Lots of people want to play but are intimidated. If you look around, you'll find tables that are "lopsided", with most players at one end. Sit down at the slow end, and tell the dealer that you are new, and he/she will guide you on your bets. It takes about 5 minutes to get in the swing.

And remember that once you start winning, tip the dealer by putting a fiver on a hardway bet! Everyone loves to win!


Tom

Hammer67
07-23-2006, 10:26 AM
I knew what it was going to be before I opened the topic!

I agree 100% Hammer, that's why I don't play blackjack. I learned craps a short while ago and I love it; learn the rules, make smart bets, ride the streak and cash out, come back to another table later on and do it again. Last time I played, the shooter threw an 8 6 times out of 9 rolls before hitting the point of 10; I was letting my place bets on 6/8 ride after the second 8, wound up the session about $400 to the good after the usual ups and downs over the next hour or so.

But blackjack, well, the cards are what they are and have no knowledge of who is where or how many players are sitting at a table; for all anyone knows, you sat down exactly when the streak was going to change, and you prolonged it; or, you took a card that would have busted a guy and instead he got a good card, or if you would not have taken a card the NEXT card would have busted him.

Thing is, all the other table games have such a high house edge I'd rather play slots or video poker. It's hard to even get a streak going at 3 Card Poker, Let It Ride, or Carribean Stud; those games just grind your bankroll down.


Tom

Absolutely...just do the smart bets in craps and if the dice are at least average, you will win int he long run. It's te people who play the sucker bets like the Field and anything in the middle of the table that lose.

Trick is to get a point early so you are playing with casino cash...put your original bet back in your pocket and then try to bankroll enough to weather a crapout.

Hammer67
07-23-2006, 10:30 AM
Lyn, I love the action at the table, too! I was worried about not being able to keep pace, but the dealers are extremely helpful. Lots of people want to play but are intimidated. If you look around, you'll find tables that are "lopsided", with most players at one end. Sit down at the slow end, and tell the dealer that you are new, and he/she will guide you on your bets. It takes about 5 minutes to get in the swing.

And remember that once you start winning, tip the dealer by putting a fiver on a hardway bet! Everyone loves to win!


Tom

I tip the dealer on almost every hand if I am winning. They like it if you bet a buck or two for them on the pass line with your bet. Just put a white chip next to yours. The hardways are low percentage.

The trick to learning is going with a friend who knows how to play and just letting them guide your bets at first until you watch and learn. Concentrate on the ends of the tables and ignore all bets in the middle. It isn't as hard as it looks.

I got married in Vegas in February and we had a ton of friends out who never played before. Had at least 10 first time players. At our casino we had a craps table pretty much to our friends & family so it was a blast...everyone was winning and me and about 5 others came away with over $1000 in winnings each. I paid for my trip out there (but not the wedding!!)