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ETL
05-02-2012, 03:19 PM
QB (3): Roethlisberger, Leftwich, Johnson
RB (4): Redman, Batch, Dwyer, Rainey (Mendenhall - IR)
FB (1): Paulson
TE (3): Miller, Pope, Saunders
WR (5): Wallace, Brown, Cotchery, Sanders, Clemons
OL(10): Gilbert, Foster, Pouncey, DeCastro, Colon, Adams, Legursky, Essex, Beachum, J Scott

(26 total offensive players)

DL (7): Hood, Hampton, Keisel, Heyward, McClendon, Ta'amu, Al Woods
LB (8): Harrison, Timmons, Foote, Woodley, Worilds, Sylvester, Spence, Carter
CB (5): Taylor, Lewis, Cortez, Brown, Terrence
S(4): Polamalu, Clark, Mundy, Allen

(24 total defensive players)

K: Suisham
P: Kapinos
LS: Warren

I don't see us keeping 6 WRs if Rainey can serve as RB, WR and KR. I see the last 4 roster spots to be fought among these players:

Wes Saunders
J. Scott
Al Woods
Corbin Bryant
Marquis Maze
Will Allen
Robert Golden
Myron Rolle

truesteelerfan
05-02-2012, 03:30 PM
The FA pickup I have the highest hopes for is the K brought on to challenge Suisham - other than that I don't see anything else that really stands out as unlikely.

Vis
05-02-2012, 03:35 PM
Why Beachum and warren?

tanda10506
05-02-2012, 03:36 PM
They made C. Batch a new contract for this year and extended Scott so they should be in the final 53. Also I think we might take 6 WR's due to Sanders being injury prone so far. I would agree with most of the list, but damn I hope Suisham isn't on it, isn't there a rookie kicker somewhere with some strength and accuracy?

Vis
05-02-2012, 03:37 PM
The FA pickup I have the highest hopes for is the K brought on to challenge Suisham - other than that I don't see anything else that really stands out as unlikely.

Marquis Maze

ETL
05-02-2012, 04:24 PM
Why Beachum and warren?

I heard good things about Beachum. Is there another LS competing with Warren

ETL
05-02-2012, 04:27 PM
They made C. Batch a new contract for this year and extended Scott so they should be in the final 53. Also I think we might take 6 WR's due to Sanders being injury prone so far. I would agree with most of the list, but damn I hope Suisham isn't on it, isn't there a rookie kicker somewhere with some strength and accuracy?

I don't think they are locked into keeping C. Batch just because of a 1 yr contract. I know we just added the Missouri kicker but he seems to be a headcase.

Just because something is newer doesn't mean its better. I would stick with the headcase that we already know: Suisham then risk it with a headcase we dont know as well.

Vis
05-02-2012, 04:37 PM
I heard good things about Beachum. Is there another LS competing with Warren

Yes, Beachum

Hawaii 5-0
05-02-2012, 05:46 PM
Weslye Saunders won't be on the opening day 53-man roster since he has been suspended by the league for the first four games of the season.

El-Gonzo Jackson
05-02-2012, 07:32 PM
Yes, Beachum

Yeah, if Beachum can snap fine enough, he stays and Warren goes to save some $$. Then I say we only carry the 9 Olinemen and maybe add another DB or OLB.

ETL
05-02-2012, 07:35 PM
Yes, Beachum

Interesting... Still, the LS job is important (e.g. James Harrison trying to do it).

I didn't think the Steelers would draft a long snapper and if Beachum is needed for depth on the line - I don't know if I would risk having my long snapper playing regularly on the OL.

Sort of like - having a WR being our punter as well - I don't want that guy play WR regularly and risking injury

El-Gonzo Jackson
05-02-2012, 08:07 PM
Interesting... Still, the LS job is important (e.g. James Harrison trying to do it).

I didn't think the Steelers would draft a long snapper and if Beachum is needed for depth on the line - I don't know if I would risk having my long snapper playing regularly on the OL.

Sort of like - having a WR being our punter as well - I don't want that guy play WR regularly and risking injury

If Beachum makes the 53 and isnt the long snapper........he will not dress on gameday. Team only normally dresses 2 reserve O linemen on gameday.

So, you cant have a reserve WR be your punter if he doesnt wear a jersey on gameday. Its a bad example.

Hawaii 5-0
05-02-2012, 08:16 PM
QB
1.Ben Roethlisberger
2.Byron Leftwich
3.Charlie Batch

RB
Mendenhall (starts season on PUP)
4.Redman
5.Dwyer/Clay
6.Rainey
7.Batch

FB/H-Back
8. Paulson

TE
9. Miller
10.Pope
11.D.J. Johnson
Weslye Saunders suspended first four games of the season

WR
12.Brown
13.Wallace
14.Sanders
15.Cotchery
16.Clemons/Maze

OT
17.Gilbert
18Colon
19.J. Scott/Turner
20.Adams

OG
21.Foster
22.DeCastro
23.Essex
24. C. Scott/Beachum

C
25.Pouncey
26.Legursky


DE
27.Hood
28.Keisel
29.Heyward
30.Bryant/Woods

NT
31.Hampton
32.McLendon
33.Ta'amu

OLB
34.Woodley
35.Harrison
36.Worilds
37.Carter

ILB
38.Foote
39.Timmons
40.Sylvester
41.Spence

CB
42.Taylor
43.Lewis
44.Allen
45.Brown
46.Frederick

S
47.Polamalu
48.Clark
49.Mundy
50.Allen/Cromartie-Smith/Rolle/Golden

P
51.Kapinos/Butler

K
52.Suisham

LS
53. Warren/Beachum

Kingmagyar
05-02-2012, 11:56 PM
If Max Starks takes anything less then 2.2 million, then Jonathan (I play LT like a drunk stumbling fool) will be long gone. Starks as a emergency back up plan for injury and gameday backup swing tackle would be a great addition to this team. Starks owned Suggs when he played him.

I hope David Johnson is not on the team and Weslye Saunders does enough in camp to keep him and wait for his suspension to end. DJ is the perfect example of a veteran that is just going to earn too much, (1.2 million) and on top of that he is a free agent after this year. If Will Johnson or David Paulson show anything I think he's gone.

ricardisimo
05-03-2012, 01:55 AM
I got the impression that Starks would most likely be out of football this year. Has there been any update on that?

Hawaii 5-0
05-03-2012, 02:23 AM
I got the impression that Starks would most likely be out of football this year. Has there been any update on that?


Max Starks Back Running Now On Surgically Repaired ACL

Wednesday, May 2nd, 2012
by Dave Bryan

I posted on Tuesday about Max Starks and how his No.78 jersey may or may not have been issued thus far to the new Pittsburgh Steelers rookies. I have been passing along any and all updates on the free agent tackle as he looks to recover from a torn ACL he suffered in the AFC Wild Card game against the Denver Broncos, and last night he gave me an update on his status.

Two weeks ago Starks let us know that he was on pace to be ready by mid July and that he was ahead of his rehab protocol. He also maintained in that update that he has every intention of playing in 2012 as well. I asked Starks again Tuesday night how his rehab was coming along and let him know that I did not think that his number had been given away yet. He replied via Twitter, "doing great, thanks! The ACL is getting stronger and I'm running now! Thanks for the update, it's not just any number! Lol"

Starks still has nearly three months to go before the Steelers report to training camp, so it does indeed seem that he could very well be an option for the Steelers to sign at the start of camp. He is an experienced veteran, and as I pointed out on Tuesday, they could place him on the ACTIVE/PUP list at the start of camp to give him a couple of more weeks to get that knee stronger. At the very least he would be in the house at that point and could be acclimated to the new offense of offensive coordinator Todd Haley.

The Steelers currently have just three true tackles with NFL game experience on their roster right now in the form of Willie Colon, Marcus Gilbert and Jonathan Scott. Gilbert is entering his second year now and Colon has missed all but one game in the last two seasons due to a torn Achilles and triceps. The Steelers did draft Ohio State tackle Mike Adams this past weekend in the second round, but he could take a while to groom to be NFL game ready. Trai Essex was brought back as well this offseason, but he is best suited as an interior swing man in my opinion and at best a right tackle temporary fill-in.

The Steelers really need to add another experienced swing tackle to the roster in my opinion, as I think Scott is just too shaky and expensive to boot. Starks could be that guy if recovered and I will continue to pass along the updates on him as we march towards the start of camp.

http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/article_external/max_starks_back_running_now_on_surgically_repaired _acl/10702952

tanda10506
05-03-2012, 03:10 AM
I don't think they are locked into keeping C. Batch just because of a 1 yr contract.

They just signed the contract so I would think that they would be locked in to keeping him. If not then we better be getting rid of Johnathan Scott despite the deal we just made with him and resign Starks.


Just because something is newer doesn't mean its better. I would stick with the headcase that we already know: Suisham then risk it with a headcase we dont know as well.

Agreed, I was referring to a kicker who actually looked good coming in, not someone who you had to test and see if they could even play. Then again, can anybody be as bad as Suisham? It's not just the misses, it's the fact that anything past 40 yards isn't even worth going for. I would agree though that if it's between him and a rookie who is a "headcase" then I guess we should keep Suisham.

wootawnee
05-03-2012, 06:28 AM
Starks will be back......Starting LT......He is way underrated.....IMO

Steelersfan87
05-03-2012, 08:25 AM
There's no way he's brought back to start unless there's an injury. I would love him to be brought back, but to replace Jonathan Scott as the reserve swing tackle, not as the starting LT. It's time to move on. Gilbert has to play, and Colon is back. Unless they want Gilbert to play guard, which they don't. I wonder if he even took any reps at all at guard last year.

truesteelerfan
05-03-2012, 04:22 PM
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Agreed, I was referring to a kicker who actually looked good coming in, not someone who you had to test and see if they could even play. Then again, can anybody be as bad as Suisham? It's not just the misses, it's the fact that anything past 40 yards isn't even worth going for. I would agree though that if it's between him and a rookie who is a "headcase" then I guess we should keep Suisham.[/QUOTE]

Seriously...Are there kickers who AREN'T headcases....Look at our recent history...Reed, Suisham...potential new rookie headcase... hmmm.

55BaileyFan
05-03-2012, 07:54 PM
Why Beachum and warren?

I agree. Beachum will most likely be used as a LS (cause he's good at it) He is also cheaper that Warren, so we could see a cut there.

I think they will keep 6 WR, don't know if Maze is that guy.

I do like the DJ cut with Paulson making the roster...I think he could be DAMN good.

Hawaii 5-0
05-07-2012, 10:49 PM
2012 Steelers 53 Man Roster Prediction

Monday, May 7th, 2012 by Dave Bryan

The 2012 NFL draft is now behind us and so too is the first rookie camp. There are several roster spots left to be decided, but now is as good of time as any to start projecting what the 53 man roster will look like for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

OFFENSE (25)

Quarterbacks (3)

Now surprises here as Ben Roethlisberger, Byron Leftwich and Charlie Batch fill out the group of three. Both Leftwich and Batch come with reduced cap hits and the only fear is if Leftwich can make it through preseason healthy. I do not think any of the other quarterbacks on the roster will stick even on the practice squad.

Running Backs (4)

The Steelers normally like to keep three, but by keeping Chris Rainey, they are essentially keeping a player that can serve as a 4th running back, a 6th wide receiver and as a return man. The experience at this position is lacking until Rashard Mendenhall is healthy enough to come off of the PUP list, so they very well could add another veteran change of pace back prior to training camp. It would not be surprising if it ended up being Mewelde Moore either. John Clay still has plenty of practice squad eligibility left, so I have placed him there for now.

Wide Receivers (5)

The top four are set with Mike Wallace, Antonio Brown, Emmanuel Sanders and Jerricho Cotchery. Rookie Toney Clemons will be given every opportunity to make the roster as the 5th receiver and contribute on special teams. As I mentioned above, Rainey could play receiver in a pinch due to his versatility and thus the need to only keep five.

Tight Ends (3)

Heath Miller leads the way and should be backed up by free agent Leonard Pope. Weslye Saunders must miss the first 4 games due to his suspension, so that allows rookie David Paulson to slide onto the 53 man. A dark horse to watch is Will Johnson, who is a very talented h-back. This could easily flip-flop with Paulson being signed to the practice squad and Johnson making the 53 man.

Fullbacks (1)

Call David Johnson what you will, but Todd Haley likely sees him more as a fullback than he does a tight end. You can mix and match the tight ends positions a various number of ways and Johnson is by no means a lock to make the roster out of camp. Maybe Will ends up stealing the spot from David just the same.

Offensive Linemen (9)

I have a strong feeling that Max Starks is in the Steelers plans to serve as a swing tackle this season if healthy by week 1. The days are likely numbered for Jonathan Scott as well. Trai Essex has the position flexibility to play all five positions on the line should the need arise. David DeCastro will be a week 1 starter, while Mike Adams will be groomed for a while. Ramon Foster will likely start at the guard position opposite of DeCastro and Doug Legursky will go back to serving as an interior swing man.

DEFENSE (25)

Nose Tackles (3)

Hopefully Casey Hampton will be healthy enough to start the season. If not, Steve McLendon will be the week 1 starter. McLendon can also play defensive end in a pinch. Rookie Alameda Taamu will need some time to learn the nuances of the defense as he is groomed to be the heir to the Hampton throne.

Defensive Ends (4)

Corbin Bryant has the inside track to make the 53 man roster as the 4th defensive end. Ziggy Hood, Brett Keisel and Cameron Heyward are all obvious locks. This would give the Steelers 7 defensive linemen in total.

Linebackers (8)

Rookie Sean Spence fills the spot that was opened by the release of James Farrior. I have Brandon Lindsey making the practice squad. No real surprises as to how these eight spots fill out.

Cornerbacks (5)

Ike Taylor, Keenan Lewis, Cortez Allen and Curtis Brown are all givens. The fifth cornerback spot can go either way and it should be a fun battle to watch in training camp. I am giving it to Terrence Frederick right now as he should have a leg up on the competition due to him playing both inside and outside in college. He is by no means a roster lock though.

Safeties (5)

The Steelers have kept four in the past and Damon Cromartie-Smith could be the wild card. The Steelers could choose to just keep four in Troy Polamalu, Ryan Clark, Ryan Mundy and Will Allen, but you have to remember that Clark will likely sit out the first game in Denver because of his sickle cell trait. Cromartie-Smith has been around long enough now to understand the defense and he can serve as a special teams player in addition. Allen seems to be a Mike Tomlin guy, and thus he sticks one more season.

SPECIALIST (3)

Long snapper Greg Warren is the only one you can really put in ink here. Grant Ressel is going to have a tough time beating out Shaun Suisham, who is not safe himself if another veteran kicker surfaces on the waiver wire that the Steelers are more comfortable with. Undrafted free agent Drew Butler will battle Jeremy Kapinos for the punting job, but Kapinos was very consistent last season and gets my vote for now.

RESERVE PUP LIST (1)

Mendenhall is certain to start the season on the PUP list which will force him to miss the first six games at the minimum. He will not count against the 53 man roster.

RESERVE/SUSPENDED LIST (1)

Saunders will miss the first four games for testing positive for a banned substance and will not count against the 53 man roster.

PRACTICE SQUAD (8)

A solid camp could earn undrafted free agent Ryan Lee a practice squad spot. For him to make the 53 man roster, he would have to beat out Essex in my opinion. The other 7 positions are just educated guesses and of course could go several different ways.


OFFENSE

7 QB Ben Roethlisberger
4 QB Byron Leftwich
16 QB Charlie Batch
33 RB Isaac Redman
27 RB Jonathan Dwyer
20 RB Baron Batch
22 RB Chris Rainey
17 WR Mike Wallace
84 WR Antonio Brown
88 WR Emmanuel Sanders
89 WR Jerricho Cotchery
11 WR Toney Clemons
53 C Maurkice Pouncey
66 G David DeCastro
73 G Ramon Foster
64 G Doug Legursky
79 G Trai Essex
77 T Marcus Gilbert
74 T Willie Colon
78 T Max Starks
76 T Mike Adams
83 TE Heath Miller
45 TE Leonard Pope
48 TE David Paulson
85 FB David Johnson

DEFENSE

98 NT Casey Hampton
90 NT Steve McLendon
95 NT Alameda Ta'amu
96 DE Ziggy Hood
99 DE Brett Keisel
97 DE Cameron Heyward
91 DE Corbin Bryant
24 CB Ike Taylor
23 CB Keenan Lewis
31 CB Curtis Brown
28 CB Cortez Allen
37 CB Terrence Frederick
43 SS Troy Polamalu
25 FS Ryan Clark
29 S Ryan Mundy
42 S Damon Cromartie-Smith
26 S Will Allen
50 ILB Larry Foote
94 ILB Lawrence Timmons
51 ILB Sean Spence
55 ILB Stevenson Sylvester
92 OLB James Harrison
56 OLB LaMarr Woodley
93 OLB Jason Worilds
54 OLB Chris Carter

SPECIALIST

60 LS Greg Warren
13 P Jeremy Kapinos
6 K Shaun Suisham

RESERVE PUP LIST

34 RB Rashard Mendenhall

RESERVE/SUSPENDED LIST

82 TE Weslye Saunders

PRACTICE SQUAD

67 T Trevis Turner
69 G/C Ryan Lee
38 RB John Clay
47 S Myron Rolle
49 OLB Brandon Lindsey
3 WR Marquis Maze
46 FB Will Johnson
69 DE Ikponmwosa Igbinosun

http://network.yardbarker.com/all_sports/article_external/2012_steelers_53_man_roster_prediction/10736465

Hawaii 5-0
05-08-2012, 03:50 PM
Ridiculously Early 2012 Pittsburgh Steelers Projected Roster and Other Goodies

Posted on May 7, 2012 by ted


It is a week from the end of the three-day NFL Draft, which most experts believe saw the Steelers tally one of their better hauls in recent memory. Moreover, thanks to some unbelievable, bust-your-tail reporting by Steelers Depot, names of the 12 undrafted free agents signed by Pittsburgh were released within a few hours after the draft, or about 36 hours sooner than usual.

The Steelers may still make some minor roster moves before late July when they open training camp in Latrobe. But their training-camp roster appears mostly set. Thus, I will do our first projected Steelers’ 53-man roster for 2012, with a few caveats, since this projection seemingly has more flexibility and thus will likely change more often than in recent years:

SURELY A VETERAN RUNNING BACK WILL BE ADDED TO THE MIX, RIGHT?

First, this projection assumes Pittsburgh will re-sign two veterans, although more minor additions could be made, including after other teams are forced to cut players to comply with the 53-player roster limit.

While I would prefer signing a more talented free agent (e.g., Tim Hightower, Jerious Norwood, Thomas Jones, Joseph Addai, Ronnie Brown, etc.), odds are the Steelers will re-sign versatile, veteran tailback Mewelde Moore after their only running back addition among rookies was Chris Rainey, a 180-pound scatback/slot receiver/return specialist.

With Rashard Mendenhall a near-lock to begin the season on the physically unable to perform list (PUP) for at least six weeks after tearing an ACL against the Browns in last year’s regular-season finale, the Steelers need another veteran back on the roster. Isaac Redman is a complete back who appears ready to take over the starting role, but must cut down on his fumbles.

Jonathan Dwyer has played well in both pre-season and regular-season games in his rare opportunities, rushing for 107 yards against Tennessee last season in his only extensive regular-season action and averaging 4.7 yards on 76 career pre-season carries over the last two falls. Dwyer has a chance to earn significant playing time this fall if he actually shows up in shape for training camp, something he failed to do each of the last two years.

As of right now, Baron Batch, Rainey, and John Clay are battling for what would likely be two more running back spots on the roster (excluding H-back/situational fullback types). Batch, a lightly-regarded seventh-round pick out of Texas Tech in 2011, was the surprise of the first few weeks of training camp last fall when he appeared primed to earn significant playing time as a shifty, situational receiving back who could eventually supplant Moore as the third-down back. Unfortunately, he suffered a gruesome knee injury (torn ACL and MCL) on August 10th and was placed on injured reserve for the season.

It usually takes two years for a skill-position player to fully recover from such a knee injury and Batch cannot afford to lose any of his quickness and moves, which were his strengths. With the drafting of Rainey and the probable return of Moore, Batch will need a strong camp and preseason just to make the roster.

Clay is another Big Ten power back who lacks the speed to excel in the NFL. After going undrafted despite a strong career at Wisconsin, the 248-pound Clay spent most of the 2011 season on the Steelers’ practice squad but was signed to the 53-man roster late in the year after Dwyer was lost to a season-ending injury, which occurred before Mendenhall tore his ACL.

Mostly unimpressive in limited playing time, Clay did score on a 10-yard run on his first NFL carry. Nevertheless, he has an uphill climb to make the roster. For better odds, he probably needs an injury to Redman or Dwyer, or for Dwyer to show up to Latrobe out of shape.

Moore has always been a marginal athlete for an NFL tailback and has slowed down considerably more as he approaches his 30th birthday. However, he is the most sure-handed, ball-protector from this group, by far the best in blitz pickup, and easily the most experienced NFL running back, especially in big games and clutch situations. Plus, the guy has a knack for making plays in some form (including special teams) that help win football games. Assuming he is re-signed, Moore is a near lock to make the team, because he is a Mike Tomlin favorite and the Steelers usually elect to keep their own veterans when in doubt.

PLEASE, PLEASE BRING BACK BIG MAX

The other assumption may be more of a reach. Even though the Steelers’ offensive line depth chart looks better now than it has in nearly a decade following the additions of first-round guard David DeCastro and second-round tackle Mike Adams, let’s make the assumption/hope that around the start of training camp (if not a little afterward), Pittsburgh is able to re-sign veteran tackle Max Starks (who is coming off an ACL tear suffered in the playoff loss to Denver) to a reasonable one-year deal.

Assuming Willie Colon stays healthy for the first time in two years and Adams does not fail any more piss tests, the Steelers would then release Jonathan Scott, who is slated to earn a base salary of $2.2 million for 2012, the last season on his two-year contract. Even if Starks is not signed, Scott is likely to be released unless he agrees to a significant paycut, a choice he may not even be presented.

Moreover, although DeCastro is lining up at at his college position of right guard during the team’s current rookie minicamp and Colon will initially return to play right tackle, a healthy Starks or the rapid development of Adams could result in Colon finally being moved inside to guard, which seemingly appears a more natural fit for his 6-foot-3 frame, since NFL tackles now average 6-foot-6.

DeCastro is the best pulling guard prospect to enter the NFL in a decade. Athletic guards who can pull usually play on the left-side, but Stanford wanted to keep its second best offensive lineman (Dolphins’ second-round steal Jonathan Martin) at left tackle to protect Andrew Luck’s blindside, which is why DeCastro pulled from right guard for the Cardinal.

Since Colon is familiar with playing on the right-side of the line, it makes more sense for him to be eventually (if not in 2012, then definitely in 2013) tried at right guard than left guard, allowing the more athletic DeCastro to pull from the left-side.

The other options are to keep Scott as a reserve for 2012 if he is willing to reduce his base salary from $2.2 million to $685,000 (and I doubt he would), bring in Starks as a reserve who would only start due to injury or others’ performing poorly, or cut Scott and not sign Starks, instead going with a younger, cheaper reserve or two to fill out the offensive line depth chart.

In the latter scenario, the Steelers would still have eight serviceable options on the offensive line, with Adams or guard Ramon Foster (whoever does not start), Doug Legursky and Trai Essex offering quality depth.

Chris Scott, rookie seventh-round pick Kelvin Beachum, 2011 practice-squad members John Malecki and Trevis Turner, and Ryan Lee, an athletic but undrafted rookie free agent from Furman who is already a YouTube sensation amongst Steelers Nation, would all be in competition for the ninth and a possible 10th roster spot on the offensive line.

THINNEST TRAINING CAMP ROSTER SINCE THE LATE 1990s?

Mendenhall (PUP) and second-year tight end Weslye Saunders, who is suspended by the NFL for the first four games of the 2012 season, will not count toward the 53-man, opening-day roster. Although he may not be ready for opening day, veteran nose tackle Casey Hampton (also recovering from a torn ACL) is not expected to be placed on the PUP list, which requires players to miss at least the first six games. However, concerns about the 35-year-old Hampton’s health will almost necessitate the Steelers keeping seven defensive linemen on their 53-player roster to start the season.

There will be some camp battles for roster spots and the numbers at each position will be determined by quality of play in training camp and the preseason. For example, the Steelers could elect to keep five or six receivers, nine or ten offensive lineman, eight or nine linebackers, nine or ten defensive backs, etc.

However, the upcoming training camp and preseason is unlikely to produce the angst before final cuts that the 2011 and especially 2010 campaigns did, both of which featured ridiculously deep training-camp rosters that resulted in multiple Pittsburgh cuts who were immediately picked up by other franchises and added to their 53-man rosters (e.g., Crezdon Butler, Tony Hills, Patrick Bailey, Kraig Urbik, Stefan Logan). From that group, though, releasing Urbik – now a starting guard for the Bills – a year after making him a third-round pick seems to be the only Pittsburgh mistake.

This year it may be Pittsburgh scouring the waiver wire in early September. For example, the Steelers have historically kept five or six receivers on its 53-man roster, although six now seems a more logical number with the advent of 3- and 4-receiver sets in the team’s offensive playbook.

At this point, former Penn State standout Derrick Williams and rookie seventh-round pick Toney Clemons are the favorites for the fifth receiver spot, with both having a decent shot of making the final roster if the Steelers keeps six receivers.

Williams, though, spent the entire 2011 season out of football after being cut by the Lions following the preseason, whereas Clemons (who has a nice combination of size and speed) was not expected to be among the 253 selections in the 2012 NFL Draft, since he was rated as 368th best overall prospect by CBS SportsLine and seemingly no other major services projected him to be drafted at all.

Accordingly, annual preseason sensation Tyler Grisham seemingly picked the wrong offseason to leave Pittsburgh for Denver, since Grisham not only would have actually had his first decent chance of making the 53-man roster, but probably would have been favored to do so. Nevertheless, do not be shocked if Grisham is signed to the Steelers’ roster if he fails to make the Broncos and some youngsters in Pittsburgh’s camp do not emerge. If that happens,it would be inevitable that many fans and even some Pittsburgh media reports to compare Grisham to Wes Welker.

The Steelers, however, has been among the best franchises at identifying hidden talent among the team’s undrafted rookie free agents, with an alumni list that included eventual 2008 NFL Defensive Player of the Year James Harrison, two-time Pro Bowl tailback Willie Parker and legendary safety Donnie Shell.

Therefore, they will need some of their 12 undrafted rookie free agents (highlighted by Georgia punter Drew Butler and Pitt outside linebacker Brandon Lindsey) singed last week or some of the castoffs from other franchises signed to futures contracts this offseaon (e.g., Williams, former Ohio State star Troy Smith, FSU Rhodes Scholar Myron Rolle) to have strong training camps and push for roster spots.

Considering the recent success of the Steelers’ scouting department, do not be surprised if some prospects most fans have not heard of emerge in July and August, ultimately finding their way on the 53-man roster, in part because Pittsburgh currently has more openings for its final spots than any year in nearly a decade. That should make for an interesting training camp.

Projected 53-Man, Opening-Day Roster

** = Roster Lock (95% or better barring major injury or arrest)
* = Roster Near Lock (75-94% barring major injury or arrest)
No stars = Clinging to the 53-man roster at this point
(These stars assume no more roster additions – outside of Moore and Starks – or season-ending injuries)

QB Ben Roethlisberger **
QB Byron Leftwich *
QB Charlie Batch *
RB Isaac Redman **
RB Mewelde Moore * (projected FA signee)
RB Jonathan Dwyer *
RB Chris Rainey

TE/FB/H-B D.J. Johnson *
TE/FB/H-B David Paulson
TE Heath Miller **
TE Leonard Pope

WR Mike Wallace **
WR Antonio Brown **
WR Emmanuel Sanders **
WR Jerricho Cotchery **
WR Toney Clemons

LT Max Starks * (projected FA signee)
LG David DeCastro **
C Maurkice Pouncey **
RG Willie Colon **
RT Marcus Gilbert **
C/G Doug Legursky **
T Mike Adams **
G Ramon Foster *
G/T/C Trai Essex*


DE Ziggy Hood **
NT Casey Hampton **
DE Brett Keisel **
DE Cameron Heyward **
NT Alameda Ta’amu **
NT/DE Steve McLendon*
DE/NT Al Woods

OLB James Harrison **
OLB LaMarr Woodley **
OLB Jason Worilds **
OLB Chris Carter
OLB Brandon Lindsey
ILB Lawrence Timmons **
ILB Larry Foote **
ILB Stevenson Sylvester **
ILB Sean Spence **

SS Troy Polamalu **
FS Ryan Clark **
S Ryan Mundy **
S Will Allen *
S Da’Mon Cromartie-Smith
CB Ike Taylor **
CB Keenan Lewis **
CB Cortez Allen **
CB Curtis Brown **


K Shaun Suisham
P Drew Butler
SN Greg Warren **

PUP: RB Rashard Mendenhall
SUS: TE Weslye Saunders

Opening Game-Day Inactives (7): WR Toney Clemons, TE/H-B David Paulson, OG Ramon Foster, OL Trai Essex, NT Casey Hampton or DL Al Woods, OLB Brandon Lindsey, S Da’Mon Cromartie-Smith

Last 21 Released From Camp (in order of how close they are to making team and their position matters): P Jeremy Kapinos, DE Corbin Bryant, CB Terrence Frederick, ILB Mortty Ivy, WR Derrick Williams, RB Baron Batch, WR Marquis Maze, OL Chris Scott, K Grant Ressell, CB/S Myron Rolle, OL Kevin Beachum, RB John Clay, OLB Adrian Robinson, Jr., TE/WR Wes Lyons, DB Robert Golden, TE/FB/H-B Jamie McCoy, OG/C John Malecki, QB Troy Smith (Decent shot if Leftwich or Batch is injured), OG Ryan Lee, FB Will Johnson, OT Trevis Turner

Last 14 To Make the Team (in order of likelihood of being cut and their position matters): OLB Brandon Lindsey, P Drew Butler, S Da’Mon Cromartie-Smith, DE/NT Al Woods, WR Toney Clemons, TE/FB/H-B David Paulson, OLB Chris Carter, K Shaun Suisham, TE Leonard Pope, RB Chris Rainey, RB Mewelde Moore, S Will Allen, TE/FB/H-B D.J. Johnson, QB Charlie Batch

Practice Squad (8): RB Baron Batch (if fully recovered from knee injury) or RB John Clay, WR Marquis Maze, OL Trevis Turner, OG Kelvin Beachum, DE Corbin Bryant, OLB Adrian Robinson, CB Terrence Frederick, DB Robert Golden

berkeley bradshaw
05-08-2012, 06:25 PM
I'm not sold on either Leftwich or Batch. You have Batch as a RB?
Durability issues haunt both back ups. Lefwich went on IR twice, and Batch forever keeps getting something broken after a game or two. We have plenty of time to look for a #3 guy; this isn't like last year when we had to go with the familiar due to the shortness of training camp.

Where the hell is Dixon on this list anyway? If the kid is going to be a future QB the guy needs more REPS. Put him at #2 and let's see what his future looks like.


QB (3): Roethlisberger, Leftwich, Johnson
RB (4): Redman, Batch, Dwyer, Rainey (Mendenhall - IR)
FB (1): Paulson
TE (3): Miller, Pope, Saunders
WR (5): Wallace, Brown, Cotchery, Sanders, Clemons
OL(10): Gilbert, Foster, Pouncey, DeCastro, Colon, Adams, Legursky, Essex, Beachum, J Scott

(26 total offensive players)

DL (7): Hood, Hampton, Keisel, Heyward, McClendon, Ta'amu, Al Woods
LB (8): Harrison, Timmons, Foote, Woodley, Worilds, Sylvester, Spence, Carter
CB (5): Taylor, Lewis, Cortez, Brown, Terrence
S(4): Polamalu, Clark, Mundy, Allen

(24 total defensive players)

K: Suisham
P: Kapinos
LS: Warren

I don't see us keeping 6 WRs if Rainey can serve as RB, WR and KR. I see the last 4 roster spots to be fought among these players:

Wes Saunders
J. Scott
Al Woods
Corbin Bryant
Marquis Maze
Will Allen
Robert Golden
Myron Rolle

Hawaii 5-0
05-08-2012, 07:30 PM
I'm not sold on either Leftwich or Batch. You have Batch as a RB?

Where the hell is Dixon on this list anyway? If the kid is going to be a future QB the guy needs more REPS. Put him at #2 and let's see what his future looks like.

same last names but different guys - Charlie Batch is the QB, Baron Batch is the RB.

as for Dennis Dixon, he is an UFA who is no longer on our team.

Kingmagyar
05-09-2012, 01:23 AM
Looking at David Paulson more and more I believe he is headed for the practice squad or will make the team for a short time until Saunders' 4 game suspension is up. Standing almost 6'4" he is more a traditional TE then an H-back. He needs major work in his blocking ability (the kind that comes with some time) and I believe Will Johnson has the far greater strength and ability right now to win the H-back job over Paulson and even incumbent David Johnson.

Will Johnson WVU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRUSkAlMrKI

I look at Paulson and see Receiver. I look at either Johnson and see Blockers. And that's what the Steelers primarily want from an H-back. But who knows what Haley is planning. Smaller receiver TEs or HBacks with a de-emphasis on blocking? Time will tell. I believe with Will Johnson you might get the best of both worlds.

I rooted for Baron Batch last year. I think this year I'm already leaning toward Will Johnson and Toney Clemons as my underdogs. Batch again too.

Kingmagyar
05-09-2012, 01:32 AM
I remember hearing an interview from Kelvin Beachum (I think from a podcast from Steelersdepot) where he said he never long snapped in college, but is working on it now. If that is the case, I don't know if you should risk a crucial snap in a game with a relative novice over a proven vet who to my recollection has never had an error.

Kingmagyar
05-09-2012, 01:34 AM
For P Drew Butler fans.

Kapinos is pretty damn good. 45 yard average and almost 30% downed inside the 20 last year. Kicked in a superbowl.(3 for a 51.0 avg) and a really good playoff cold weather game against Baltimore averaging 48.5 on 4 punts. Drew Butler's avg his last two years in college was around 44. Suisham may be another story if the new guy goes on a tear, but that is even doubtful.

Hawaii 5-0
05-14-2012, 11:25 PM
I hope this guy makes the 53-man roster, seems like he has a great head on his shoulders:

Beachum delivers commencement address

Teresa Varley - Steelers.com
May 14, 2012

http://prod.static.steelers.clubs.nfl.com//assets/images/news/2012/Kelvin_grad_article1.jpg

Life certainly has been good for Kelvin Beachum recently.

The former SMU offensive lineman was drafted by the Steelers in the seventh-round a few weeks ago, helping him fulfill his dream of playing in the NFL.

Then on Saturday, not only did Beachum receive his Master’s degree from SMU, but he also delivered the commencement address for his class at SMU’s Simmons School of Education & Human Development.

“It was a tremendous honor,” said Beachum. “I didn’t know all of these things would be happening for me. Getting drafted, addressing your peers at graduation. It’s an honor, a privilege and something you could never plan for.”

Beachum received his undergraduate degree in Economics from SMU and then continued his education earning his Masters in Liberal Studies with a concentration on organizational behavior in only 16 months.

“I don’t know the statistics on how many people go into the NFL with their Masters, but to be able to succeed on the football field and in the classroom go hand in hand for me,” said Beachum. “You have to work hard on the football field and in the classroom just to be able to stay on the field.”

It wasn’t easy for Beachum to find the perfect balance between football and his education, as football has been the dream and he wanted to keep that his main focus.

“Football has always been my priority,” said Beachum. “My priorities are God, family and football. Football always came before school, even though I was a student-athlete. It was difficult to get to the Master’s degree and make sure I was caught up. I took on the challenges to make sure I was successful. My focus on football has never changed.

“My goal was to finish my Masters now. I didn’t want to go to the NFL and have to think about when I could go back to school. I wanted it all done. When you are in school you have school and football. You have to take time for both. With the Masters being done I can go in and all of my time will now be devoted to football, something that I love and allow me to do what I need to do to be successful in the National Football League.”

Beachum shared with his fellow students the importance of maintaining a strong will to succeed, being a positive example and overcoming challenges.

“I love testing my will, I love challenges, and I love being a positive example,” Beachum said in his speech. “My will has been truly tested. I have tested it, and others have tested it. My will has become strong and this strength, I believe, has made me a better person, better able to tackle some big, tough things in life.

“We have all faced challenges. I have faced many challenges. I have been told ‘you can’t, won’t, and shouldn’t.’ We have overcome past challenges to be graduating today. We will certainly be facing challenges in our futures.

“A strong will and ability to face challenges helps me to be a positive example for others. Each of us is an example to others. Being a positive example is a choice, it takes a will to act. With a will to face challenges and be an example, I strived to achieve the unimaginable.”

Beachum took great pride in having his family on hand to hear the speech. His father, Kelvin, Sr., had to halt his education after the eighth grade to lend a hand at home. His mother, Culetta, had him when she was 18 and didn’t finish her college degree until after he earned his undergraduate degree.

“I am the first person in my family to graduate from college and get a Masters,” said Beachum. “There are a lot of emotions going on. My father (Kelvin, Sr.) graduated with an eighth grade education. My grandfather was blind so he had to stop his education to help make ends meet as a young teenager.”

Beachum addressed the way his father tested his will as a young kid through sports, teaching him the importance of winning and losing.

“When I think about my father, as a child, I often wondered why he would place me on a team that did not win regularly or not at all,” Beachum told him fellow graduates. “I was usually a part of teams with individuals of lesser talent, sub-par desire, and very poor work ethic. Always losing as a child was hard and frustrating. As I matured I asked my father, ‘Why did you always place me on teams that did not win?’ He said, ‘Kelvin, you have to learn how to lose before one can learn how to win.’”

One thing is for sure, Beachum has learned how to be a winner.

“For them to see their son grow up and say he was going to do something and do it, it’s everything they asked for,” said Beachum. “They always told us if you say you are going to do something, do it to the fullest of your abilities.”

http://www.steelers.com/news/article-1/Beachum-delivers-commencement-address/26a054dd-21f2-4c66-a901-1eb6561e8f15

Hawaii 5-0
05-15-2012, 01:28 AM
Steelers projected 53 man roster for 2012

May 14th, 2012

The draft is over. There has been some time to take a look at the roster. The Steelers could make another move or two but they really will not be forced to. If they want some depth at a position or are looking to bring in competition it is possible but with the salary cap the way it is that may not make money sense. Someone else would get cut to start the season.

This team will look much different week one then it will later in the season. Guys like Casey Hampton and Rashard Mendenhall will return during the season. Wesley Saunders will be back from suspension. Day one does not indicate what later in the year will look like.

I went heavy on defense. The Steelers are going to need guys who can run and tackle for special teams. Also they are young at defensive back so I added an extra body at corner. Also with Casey Hampton on PUP I added an extra defensive linemen to take his place while he is out.

This team is going to look much different than last year. This is the biggest turnover in guys that the Steelers have had in a very very long time. There are 14 new guys out there who were not on the opening day roster last season. That is not counting the injured players like Leftwich. This is a whole new team. They are getting very young very quickly.

I have compiled a 53 man roster:

Quarterback: (3) Even though I am highly against this the Steelers love these 3 guys. The only way this does not happen is if one gets hurt or the Steelers are so close to the cap that they need to remove some money.

Ben Roethlisberger
Charlie Batch
Byron Leftwich

Running Back (5) With the loss of Mendenhall early in the year the Steelers may go heavy and keep five backs on the roster. Everyone wants to see how the team uses Chris Rainey and if Baron Batch is ready to roll after he looked so tough last training camp. Redman will carry the load. We will see how that works.

Isaac Redman
Jonathan Dwyer
Chris Rainey
John Clay
Baron Batch
Rashard Mendenhall- PUP (Does not count against roster)

Wide Receiver (6) This crew lost Hines Ward but it is generally the same as last season. Maze was added for special teams and I think during training camp Clemons is going to be someone the Steelers will not be able to cut or he will land on another team. This is a strong group.

Mike Wallace
Antonio Brown
Emmanuel Sanders
Jerricho Cotchery
Marquis Maze
Toney Clemons

Tight End (3) Saunders being suspended is not helpful. It may cost someone else a spot when he returns after four weeks. It could very well be one of the receivers.
Heath Miller
Leonard Pope
David Johnson
Weslye Saunders- Suspended (does not count against roster)

Offensive Line (8) I kept 8 this year. The two rookies I have starting. Essex is the swing guy on the outside while Legursky and Foster will back up the others.

Mike Adams
David DeCastro
Maurkice Pouncey
Willie Colon
Marcus Gilbert
Ramon Foster
Trai Essex
Doug Legursky

Defensive Line (7) I used 7 defensive linemen because this is a young group with no real nose tackle without Hampton. Ta’amu looks the part but the team will need a rotation early in the year with all the heat in September. Putting an extra body in there will help as we have seen over the past few seasons.

Ziggy Hood
Cameron Heyward
Brett Keisel
Alameda Ta’amu
Steve McLendon
Corbin Bryant
Al Woods
Casey Hampton PUP (does not count against the roster)

Linebackers (8) This group is its normal self. The loss of Farrior makes Sylvester and Spence that much more important. This team is going to count heavily on rotation. These two guys will battle it out because Foote cannot play on passing downs.

James Harrison
LaMarr Woodley
Larry Foote
Lawrence Timmons
Sean Spence
Jason Worilds
Chris Carter
Stephenson Sylvester

Defensive Backs (10) I added some bodies here. Two rookies. One not even drafted. This is a young group and they are going to need to learn together. Keeping these guys on the roster keeps everyone fresh and it helps special teams. Speed is the name of the game in the NFL today. Getting these guys on the team helps that out.

Ike Taylor
Keenan Lewis
Cortez Allen
Curtis Brown
Terrence Frederick
Robert Golden
Troy Polamalu
Ryan Clark
Will Allen
Ryan Mundy

Special Teams (3)

Shaun Suisham
Jeremy Kapinos
Greg Warren

The only large name cut on this team is Jonathan Scott. I did have 3 guys that I struggled over. Derrick Williams I really wanted to put on this roster. Brandon Lindsey and David Paulson are guys I do not want to lose if they do not make the roster. I think their performances in the preseason will make it hard for the Steelers to keep them. If I added these guys though I would leave holes in other areas. I like the look of this team, it is just very young. The core is still there but not much veteran depth behind it. Still a really good squad.

http://bleedblackandgold.com/blog/2012/05/14/steelers-projected-53-man-roster-for-2012/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BleedBlackAndGold+%28Bleed+Bl ack+and+Gold%29

BengalDestroyer
05-15-2012, 10:31 AM
QB - Big Ben, Byron, Charlie ( although, Byron is bound to get hurt... the job could go to Johnson or Smith...)

RB - Redman, Dwyer, Batch, Rainey (Mendy - I.R.)

FB - Clay

WR - Brown, Wallace, Cotchery, Sanders, Clemons, Maze

TE - Miller, Pope, Lyons (hopefully Saunders makes it back on the roster...)

OT - Gilbert, Colon, Adams, Chris Scott

G - DeCastro, Essex, Foster, Legursky

C - Pouncey

NT - Hampton, Ta'amu, McClendon (don't be surprised to see McClendon on a lot of passing downs...)

DE - Keisel, Hood, Heyward, Woods (went with Woods but Bryant could take this spot also...)

OLB - Harrison, Woodley, Worilds, Carter (hopefully Lindsey has a good camp but he'll be on the practice squad at least for this year)

ILB- Timmons, Foote, Sylvester, Spence

CB - Taylor, Lewis, Allen, Brown, Frederick

SS/FS - Polomalu, Clark, Rolle, Golden

K/P/LS - Suisham/Kapinos/Warren

Hawaii 5-0
05-17-2012, 03:46 PM
Steelers Projected Offensive Depth Chart for 2012

May 17th, 2012

With Willie Colon moving to Guard we can now see what the line potentially is going to look like. I put out my projected 53 man roster and I will use that to make the depth chart. This team is looking young and ready for the future. This season is the start of a new era for the Steelers. Here is what I think the Depth Chart will look like. (note: TE Weslye Saunders suspended first four games of the season)

Quarterback:

Ben Roethlisberger
Byron Leftwich
Charlie Batch

Running Back:

Isaac Redman
Jonathan Dwyer
Baron Batch
John Clay
Chris Rainey

3rd Down Back:

Chris Rainey
Baron Batch

H-Back

David Johnson
Weslye Saunders

WR1:

Mike Wallace
Jerricho Cotchery
Toney Clemons

WR 2:

Antonio Brown
Emmanuel Sanders
Marquis Maze

Slot Receiver:

Emmanuel Sanders
Jerricho Cotchery
Toney Clemons
Marquis Maze

Tight End:

Heath Miller
Leonard Pope
Weslye Saunders
David Johnson

Left Tackle:

Mike Adams
Marcus Gilbert
Trai Essex

Left Guard:

Willie Colon
Ramon Foster
Doug Legrusky

Center:

Maurkice Pouncey
Doug Legursky
Trai Essex

Right Guard:

David DeCastro
Ramon Foster
Doug Legursky

Right Tackle :

Marcus Gilbert
Willie Colon
Trai Essex

I like this new look to the Steelers offense. Many people are worried about two rookies and Colon at guard but sometimes you have to let people play. We have seen that not only with the Steelers but all over the NFL. Rookies make an impact. Sitting guys on the bench to let veteran but less talented players in the game does not happen as much any more in the NFL. This team is building its future while still keeping the veteran pressence. I like the look of it.

http://bleedblackandgold.com/blog/2012/05/17/steelers-projected-offensive-depth-chart-for-2012/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BleedBlackAndGold+%28Bleed+Bl ack+and+Gold%29

ebsteelers
05-17-2012, 03:54 PM
25 guys on offense
26 on d?
1 kicker 1 punter
53

7 guys for the practice squad Kelvin Beachum think he could be activate cause he can snap also


60 total


but on game day only 46 can dress... im having brain gas right now..